Wizard outting AP plays.

[MDawg]

They certainly get UNKewlJ (and V too, for that matter) to

whine like a fairy and have his panties in a bunch, like a repetitive whining UNKOOL poster.

[Gottlob]

I think MDawg's stories are accomplishing what he wants them to....lol

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[MisterV]

They certainly get UNKewlJ (and V too, for that matter)

Yeah, ya got me; now what are you going to do with me?

Remember, it don't mean nothin'.

[AxelWolf]

I think MDawg's stories are accomplishing what he wants them to....lol

Trust me, they aren't.

[AxelWolf]

KJ did you answer my question?

[kewlJ]

KJ did you answer my question?

What question? what has he outed in the last 4 years? Why did you pick that time frame? The play that really sticks in my crawl for personal reasons was just over 4 years?

Is your point that he is trying to do better or something?

Well he sort of outed a play for a game that hadn't even hit the casino floor yet, which is what inspired this thread. So it doesn't look like he has changed his ways.

I mean seriously, I don't dislike the guy, and I am not looking for reasons to dislike him, but come on he outs plays just because he can and is not playing them himself.

I am off to work now, so if you are going to write something defending him, I will read it tomorrow. But really don't even bother.

[AxelWolf]

KJ did you answer my question?

What question? what has he outed in the last 4 years? Why did you pick that time frame? The play that really sticks in my crawl for personal reasons was just over 4 years?

Is your point that he is trying to do better or something?

Well he sort of outed a play for a game that hadn't even hit the casino floor yet, which is what inspired this thread. So it doesn't look like he has changed his ways.

I mean seriously, I don't dislike the guy, and I am not looking for reasons to dislike him, but come on he outs plays just because he can and is not playing them himself.

I am off to work now, so if you are going to write something defending him, I will read it tomorrow. But really don't even bother.

It may have been longer, I dont know, I just know his stance changed on outing plays. If you are going to start a thread like this at least be current and know all the facts.

Twitter and other sources are 100x worse than any individual.

[mickeycrimm]

Didn't Wiz publish the math/strategy for the Revel loss rebate promotion about 10 years ago? And it caused all the good machines to be disqualified from the promotion?

[The Boz]

Didn't Wiz publish the math/strategy for the Revel loss rebate promotion about 10 years ago? And it caused all the good machines to be disqualified from the promotion?

He did somewhat discuss strategies, but the reports at the time were Dancer actually personally talked to Revel and explained which machines were going to be targeted and how. This led to removal of some machines in the days before the promo, and worse yet, removing people from the promotion after they were already playing and down large amounts.

Not sure if it was ever proven 100%, but damning against Dancer if true.

[Rob.Singer]

Didn't Wiz publish the math/strategy for the Revel loss rebate promotion about 10 years ago? And it caused all the good machines to be disqualified from the promotion?

He did somewhat discuss strategies, but the reports at the time were Dancer actually personally talked to Revel and explained which machines were going to be targeted and how. This led to removal of some machines in the days before the promo, and worse yet, removing people from the promotion after they were already playing and down large amounts.

Not sure if it was ever proven 100%, but damning against Dancer if true.

I teamed 50/50 with Rick Radner on that promo. Only he traveled there because I couldn't go. He stayed at my sister's guest house in Pa. but the promo fell apart after about a week, probably due to Dancer, I don't remember. We did make money on it but nothing huge.

[cyberbabble]

KJ -
Could you give us some info on your Colorado blackjack play that the Wizard stepped on. It sounds like an interesting story.

[mickeycrimm]

Didn't Wiz publish the math/strategy for the Revel loss rebate promotion about 10 years ago? And it caused all the good machines to be disqualified from the promotion?

He did somewhat discuss strategies, but the reports at the time were Dancer actually personally talked to Revel and explained which machines were going to be targeted and how. This led to removal of some machines in the days before the promo, and worse yet, removing people from the promotion after they were already playing and down large amounts.

Not sure if it was ever proven 100%, but damning against Dancer if true.

Dancer admitted he did it to try to get a consulting contract. But my hazy memory says he used Shack's published strategy on the promotion.

[jbjb]

Dancer has been know to have people kicked out of places he's allowed to play in. Notably SP.

[AxelWolf]

Didn't Wiz publish the math/strategy for the Revel loss rebate promotion about 10 years ago? And it caused all the good machines to be disqualified from the promotion?

He did somewhat discuss strategies, but the reports at the time were Dancer actually personally talked to Revel and explained which machines were going to be targeted and how. This led to removal of some machines in the days before the promo, and worse yet, removing people from the promotion after they were already playing and down large amounts.

Not sure if it was ever proven 100%, but damning against Dancer if true.

Dancer admitted he did it to try to get a consulting contract. But my hazy memory says he used Shack's published strategy on the promotion.

From what I remember Bob and Richard had Mike on the show before the promotion, Mike gave the numbers for $25 double double/double bonus I believe. Assuming $25 VP the value of the promo was around 42k give or take depending on your win goal.

There was discussion and perhaps a side bet related to the Revel not honoring the promo. Bob was on the yes Richard was on the no.

Fast forward: I believe there was an episode where they were talking about the promo after or during. Bob mentioned he wanted to get a gig there(probably the same type of Southpoint gig.) Bob kinda slipped up and said something to the effect that he told the Revel they were going to get crushed on the 100k LR Promo(I can't remember if he specifically told them about the $25 VP or not). Richard responded, "Why would you do that??" Bob said, something about him not wanting the casino to go bankrupt. You have to listen to the episode and get a feel for how it went down.

[jbjb]

Dancer is an idiot. Just another pseudo-AP that CANNOT KEEP HIS YAP SHUT!

[tableplay]

Eventually Richard got sick of ratfink Dancer and now he (Richard) has his own podcast.

[AxelWolf]

Didn't Wiz publish the math/strategy for the Revel loss rebate promotion about 10 years ago? And it caused all the good machines to be disqualified from the promotion?

He did somewhat discuss strategies, but the reports at the time were Dancer actually personally talked to Revel and explained which machines were going to be targeted and how. This led to removal of some machines in the days before the promo, and worse yet, removing people from the promotion after they were already playing and down large amounts.

Not sure if it was ever proven 100%, but damning against Dancer if true.

I teamed 50/50 with Rick Radner on that promo. Only he traveled there because I couldn't go. He stayed at my sister's guest house in Pa. but the promo fell apart after about a week, probably due to Dancer, I don't remember. We did make money on it but nothing huge.

Hmmm... Richard Radner AKA Jai alai certainly wasn't at that promotion when I was there. I scouted the place continually, I definitely would have seen him or someone would've told me they had. There were just too many AP's there who I knew that knew him. A few of whom he owed money to regarding some unresolved disputes. Is it possible he snuck in for an hour or so and played something lower and out of the way, I guess, but unlikely. He may have had a deal with someone else who played, but knowing Jai alai, on that promotion for that type of money he would've been hands-on, and front and center playing, probably the $100 slots.

[DGenBen]

He did somewhat discuss strategies, but the reports at the time were Dancer actually personally talked to Revel and explained which machines were going to be targeted and how. This led to removal of some machines in the days before the promo, and worse yet, removing people from the promotion after they were already playing and down large amounts.

Not sure if it was ever proven 100%, but damning against Dancer if true.

I teamed 50/50 with Rick Radner on that promo. Only he traveled there because I couldn't go. He stayed at my sister's guest house in Pa. but the promo fell apart after about a week, probably due to Dancer, I don't remember. We did make money on it but nothing huge.

Hmmm... Richard Radner AKA Jai alai certainly wasn't at that promotion when I was there. I scouted the place continually, I definitely would have seen him or someone would've told me they had. There were just too many AP's there who I knew that knew him. A few of whom he owed money to regarding some unresolved disputes. Is it possible he snuck in for an hour or so and played something lower and out of the way, I guess, but unlikely. He may have had a deal with someone else who played, but knowing Jai alai, on that promotion for that type of money he would've been hands-on, and front and center playing, probably the $100 slots.

You must have just missed him. If Singer states something you know it’s 100% true. Bank it!

[Rob.Singer]

I teamed 50/50 with Rick Radner on that promo. Only he traveled there because I couldn't go. He stayed at my sister's guest house in Pa. but the promo fell apart after about a week, probably due to Dancer, I don't remember. We did make money on it but nothing huge.

Hmmm... Richard Radner AKA Jai alai certainly wasn't at that promotion when I was there. I scouted the place continually, I definitely would have seen him or someone would've told me they had. There were just too many AP's there who I knew that knew him. A few of whom he owed money to regarding some unresolved disputes. Is it possible he snuck in for an hour or so and played something lower and out of the way, I guess, but unlikely. He may have had a deal with someone else who played, but knowing Jai alai, on that promotion for that type of money he would've been hands-on, and front and center playing, probably the $100 slots.

You must have just missed him. If Singer states something you know it’s 100% true. Bank it!

This is kind of typical. He went...and said he played MY strategy up thru the $25 machines, and probably overnight like I always did. Maybe that's why he didn't socialize and try to get noticed like the rest. He's a winning player and wanted nor had anything to do with forums, social media, or basically other players most of the time. People who "knew" him would know that.

[kewlJ]

It is so cute when Rob tries to be relevant and fails and flails and just looks stupid.

My partner and I are going to a Halloween party tonight. We were going to go as Rob Singer, but couldn't find a jackass costume.