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  1. #161
    Today`s story is that Weaselson is now retiring...wonder what new story he will thrill us with tomorrow....Never seen anyone tapdance quite like Mr Alan Bojangles

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  2. #162
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    Typical diverting when pinned to the wall. The easy way out would be to simply tell us his name. But noooo....you've got to make it a drama by doing the two-step again--just like your plethora of silly excuses why you won't post your so-called accolades yourself.
    Yeah, I'm pinned to the wall. That's why I invited a journalist half an hour away to show up anytime and verify everything.

    Rob, you're a clown. If you want to wager on this, the bank's open, dude. One of us is a liar; one ain't. Put your money where your mouth is, and we'll see if this advantage play beats the great Rob Singer. Or is somebody lacking confidence in his opining these days?
    Ha! I've got you so flustered that you can't even identify what you're wanting to lose money on And thank you for the blistering name-calling. That tells me you're likely developing boils over me.
    It's very simple, Rob. I'll make it easy for you. Overnight a cashier's check to Alan for $1000. When he receives it, he announces that, then I'll hoof it over to Alan's and drop off $1000. Thereupon, I will provide photos and a video shot that day of the aforementioned person with me, with his wife, with his dogs, and with his sister, hanging in my office in his house.

    If I don't provide the above, I lose. if I do, you lose.

    Easy peasy.

    Now I'm sure you'll want to ship that check as fast as possible so you can debunk all of the BS I've posted on this site. Please, don't do it, man. I can't afford to lose the money. I beg you, don't do it.

    What a clown.

  3. #163
    Revealing my true identity and my take on the package:

  4. #164
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Jerry Logan: People from WoV tend to remember when somebody gives them a good licking (careful kew....again!). No I'm not JL, as much as the WoV crowd wanted and apparently still wants me to be. But Jerry is a friend if mine (and former student who made big money playing my strategy jbjb--yes, you who constantly claims no one plays it even after he posted his results on WoV for quite a while). He also keeps in contact with me and lives in Mesa or Tempe.
    Boy, you are a really mentally ill dude. It was apparent from my first minute at this forum that you are one of those cowardly, internet troll, bullies....such a big man hiding behind your keyboard. An insecure bitter old man. But you are far worse than that with multiple accounts, pretending to be other made up people. Classic...multiple personalities. Yikes! Reminds me of the quote from Seinfeld where Jerry tells George he needs mental help. And not just one doctor. He needs a team working round the clock.

    I know nothing of your made up Jerry Logan personality. If you perpetrated this multiple personality scam at WoV, it must have been before my time there. Either that or I just didn't care enough to even read. But multiple people here have informed me, your M.O. is to have this multiple personality back you up on multiple sites. I have been told that several times, you became so screwed up you mixed up your personalities. geez...are you bad at everything you do?....even the multiple personalities thing. How very sad for you. What a sad existence.

  5. #165
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I'm really sorry kewlj but I've made changes in my life. And soon I am moving OUT of Southern California and then I will rarely if ever go to the office again. I'm retiring, guys. I'm already collecting my pension and starting October 11th my Social Security starts.

    I've already told my clients that after December I will no longer be doing a weekly Best Buys TV Show. I will continue to do Infomercials and from time to time I will do a Best Buys Special. We are thinking about doing a Best Buys Special for Presidents Day Sales and then another for Mothers Day Sales and then another for Fathers Day and graduations. But the weekly grind is ending for me. It's time to be "semi retired."

    Tony (who is actually about 8 years my senior) is also retiring (he's in his 70s as you can figure) which is why he isn't in the office so much anymore.

    Kewlj, Tony has told me what's in the package and so far, redietz has not disputed what Tony told me. What are you expecting for me to see in the package that will change things? Please tell me. Use red font if you must.

    edited to add: I'm not going to ask Tony to rewrap the package (redietz would you care to describe the intricate wrapping and over-wrapping you used?) and then take it a mile and a half away to the post office to mail to me. Everything we do is by email, or by phone. Even with the TV stations there is no more snail mail. Even contracts are "signed" via email. Payments are made electronically -- no one sends paper checks anymore, and when they are sent that way, there is an outgoing mail slot in the lobby of the building. And the package won't fit in the mail slot.

    If it's so important, kewlj, ask redietz to send the stuff to you. redietz says he has plenty of copies and he's obviously not worried about the copyright laws affecting photo copies but he is concerned about taking photos of his byline and names. Go figure.

    And redietz, why don't you get Dan's address and mail him the package directly. This way kewlj will not accuse me of altering the contents of the package. Yeah. that's coming. Can't you tell?
    Just to correct -- I never said I have "plenty of copies." I don't even have two full copies -- almost, but not quite. I felt it inappropriate to simultaneously mail material that was copyrighted, so I kind of followed the old manuscript submission rule of sequential submission but not simultaneous submission. Remember that rule of thumb, Alan?

    So I just want to be clear on that. I don't have the stuff organized. I'll have to rewrite the intro blurbs for the various things, which is fine when I get the time.

    I'll check with Dan sometime soon.

  6. #166
    This is ridiculous. Now my retirement is being challenged? I'm 65 and a half years old. Soon I will be 66. Yes, I'm retiring. And I am moving out of Southern California.

  7. #167
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    This is ridiculous. Now my retirement is being challenged?
    Not by me. I am not challenging your retirement....I welcome it. The world needs one less "shyster", scam artist.

    Only thing I have challenged is your honesty....your integrity. And that really isn't even in question.....You have none.

  8. #168
    I sure wish you would sign your real name, kewlj. But it's easy for you to say the things you say as kewlj, isn't it?

  9. #169
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I sure wish you would sign your real name, kewlj. But it's easy for you to say the things you say as kewlj, isn't it?
    I am an Advantage Player, who plays blackjack for a living. And Alan would like me to sign my real name on an anonymous message board.

    Could anything possible demonstrate more clearly, Alan's total lack of understanding of advantage play, advantage players and the relationship between AP's and the casino industry.

  10. #170
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    Yeah, I'm pinned to the wall. That's why I invited a journalist half an hour away to show up anytime and verify everything.

    Rob, you're a clown. If you want to wager on this, the bank's open, dude. One of us is a liar; one ain't. Put your money where your mouth is, and we'll see if this advantage play beats the great Rob Singer. Or is somebody lacking confidence in his opining these days?
    Ha! I've got you so flustered that you can't even identify what you're wanting to lose money on And thank you for the blistering name-calling. That tells me you're likely developing boils over me.
    It's very simple, Rob. I'll make it easy for you. Overnight a cashier's check to Alan for $1000. When he receives it, he announces that, then I'll hoof it over to Alan's and drop off $1000. Thereupon, I will provide photos and a video shot that day of the aforementioned person with me, with his wife, with his dogs, and with his sister, hanging in my office in his house.

    If I don't provide the above, I lose. if I do, you lose.

    Easy peasy.

    Now I'm sure you'll want to ship that check as fast as possible so you can debunk all of the BS I've posted on this site. Please, don't do it, man. I can't afford to lose the money. I beg you, don't do it.

    What a clown.
    And there you go again....hoping that an obscure photo or video without identifications is some type of proof. So now MORE snail mail? You thinking of mailing it from your boyfriend's home on the west coast?

    Where's his name? Let's have it red. Post SOMETHING thus time other than your bs.

  11. #171
    Since you are afraid to sign your real name kewlj stop your libelous statements calling me a shyster and scam artist. If you want to libel me sign your real name.

  12. #172
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Jerry Logan: People from WoV tend to remember when somebody gives them a good licking (careful kew....again!). No I'm not JL, as much as the WoV crowd wanted and apparently still wants me to be. But Jerry is a friend if mine (and former student who made big money playing my strategy jbjb--yes, you who constantly claims no one plays it even after he posted his results on WoV for quite a while). He also keeps in contact with me and lives in Mesa or Tempe.
    Boy, you are a really mentally ill dude. It was apparent from my first minute at this forum that you are one of those cowardly, internet troll, bullies....such a big man hiding behind your keyboard. An insecure bitter old man. But you are far worse than that with multiple accounts, pretending to be other made up people. Classic...multiple personalities. Yikes! Reminds me of the quote from Seinfeld where Jerry tells George he needs mental help. And not just one doctor. He needs a team working round the clock.

    I know nothing of your made up Jerry Logan personality. If you perpetrated this multiple personality scam at WoV, it must have been before my time there. Either that or I just didn't care enough to even read. But multiple people here have informed me, your M.O. is to have this multiple personality back you up on multiple sites. I have been told that several times, you became so screwed up you mixed up your personalities. geez...are you bad at everything you do?....even the multiple personalities thing. How very sad for you. What a sad existence.
    Looks like my "fairy" comment is having its desired effect

    I was banned at WoV while Jerry posted there. Was he banned too? So I imagine there's evidence RS = JL? Please provide it. And it would be better for you if you didn't get so excited over me. I know how you people have hypertension problems.

  13. #173
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Since you are afraid to sign your real name kewlj stop your libelous statements calling me a shyster and scam artist. If you want to libel me sign your real name.
    It's typical of these anonymous "AP's" to lie about themselves then libel anyone who disagrees with them. They're a bunch of sissies really, only very few produce proof of it as kew has done.

  14. #174
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Since you are afraid to sign your real name kewlj stop your libelous statements calling me a shyster and scam artist. If you want to libel me sign your real name.

    Right out of the internet troll playbook...threats (although veiled) of legal action/intent.

    Alan, since this is yet another topic you apparently don't know about (but yet have an opinion), allow me to educate you. There is nothing libel about my statements. If I said that you murdered someone, or committed a crime and there was no such evidence of these actions, that could be considered libel. But me voicing my opinion that you are dishonest and manipulative and a "shyster" is just that....my opinion.

    You have more than earned the title "shyster" with you many dishonest and manipulative actions against me and others. So just stop your crying you old fool.

    But I am going to end this exercise of exposing you before you break down in tears and have a stroke. You really did all the exposing yourself. There wasn't much for me to do, except highlight a few things and wrap it all in a nice little package for everyone to easily see.

    And just in case you are wondering why, I would go to the trouble. It's your arrogant, "holier than thou" trolling. In my case you set out to discredit me because you didn't understand or comprehend a technique. And then after intentionally dishonesty and manipulating the facts (and photos), you made trolling comments like "you got caught buddy" and "it hurts to et cough doesn't it kewlj?" When the fact is you hadn't caught me in anything. All you proved was that you were an old man who had made up his mind on a subject he knew nothing about and set out to dishonestly manipulate statements and even photos to back up your viewpoint that you knew nothing about (confirmation bias).

    And the final kicker was this little comment. "And Kewlj I am not going to let up on you". Nothing but a threatening, trolling statement and worse of all about a subject matter you know nothing about and are 100% wrong in your predetermined opinion of.

    So, just stop your trolling old man. And stick to subject matter that you know what you are talking about. In your case I guess that would be degenerative gambling and how to have unsuccessful marriages.

  15. #175
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    Ha! I've got you so flustered that you can't even identify what you're wanting to lose money on And thank you for the blistering name-calling. That tells me you're likely developing boils over me.
    It's very simple, Rob. I'll make it easy for you. Overnight a cashier's check to Alan for $1000. When he receives it, he announces that, then I'll hoof it over to Alan's and drop off $1000. Thereupon, I will provide photos and a video shot that day of the aforementioned person with me, with his wife, with his dogs, and with his sister, hanging in my office in his house.

    If I don't provide the above, I lose. if I do, you lose.

    Easy peasy.

    Now I'm sure you'll want to ship that check as fast as possible so you can debunk all of the BS I've posted on this site. Please, don't do it, man. I can't afford to lose the money. I beg you, don't do it.

    What a clown.
    And there you go again....hoping that an obscure photo or video without identifications is some type of proof. So now MORE snail mail? You thinking of mailing it from your boyfriend's home on the west coast?

    Where's his name? Let's have it red. Post SOMETHING thus time other than your bs.

    Rob, if you're such a lean, mean betting machine, put up some cash, my friend. Otherwise it's not an advantage play.

    Obviously, the person I'm talking about has current Facebook, LinkedIn, and various professional organization postings and links where his photo appears in every listing. There are videos of him accepting awards, and his smiling face is there in each one. He was featured in at least one Aviation Weekly profile.

    So if his smiling face winds up in the same video as my smiling face, did I recruit someone off the street to have plastic surgery? And if the video takes place in his home, what, I rented his house and recruited someone to have plastic surgery? Not even you could believe that.

    Rob, I never fully realized you don't really believe your own garbage, but now I do. I have a pretty narrow definition of troll, as I believe naysayers and disbelievers should have their say, but it's pretty clear you don't really believe what you're saying. You just ramble to try to get some reaction. I mean, if you had any commitment to your opining, the cashier's check to Allan would be in the mail, and the bet would be made.

    But you're just clowning around in a mean-spirited, psychotic way.

    In any event, I've never really viewed you as a complete clown, but that is what you are. I hate using the word "troll," but you're it. You don't believe what you write. Man, that is sad. Five thousand friggin' posts, and you don't really believe your own narrative and conclusions.

    Or maybe you do. Why don't you send Alan into retirement with a bet to remember us by? Send him a check. Alan, you let me know when that check arrives, and I will hand deliver cash to your doorstep.

    C'mon, Rob, Believe what you write, man. Have some integrity.

    P.S. I hope all gentle readers realize Rob will never make the wager. Alan already has the name and has probably googled it. Alan already has the address and may have googled it. Rob knows the reality. He's just trying to get me to cough up a name with no money changing hands. Good luck with that, Rob.
    Last edited by redietz; 09-19-2017 at 02:14 PM.

  16. #176
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I have a pretty narrow definition of troll, as I believe naysayers and disbelievers should have their say
    I have a less narrow definition of a troll (I guess that would be wider definition...lol). I think there are people that only post to get a reaction. Singer is clearly the worst case of this I have run across. He freely admits he is only looking for certain reactions. Others like LarryS from our previous site, disguise their intent with words like "lively debate". These 'trolls' are not after debate or discussion. They are after attention...plain and simple. Their life is apparently so empty, this is how they get their jollies. I put Alan, in the same class as these guys. Alan is a little more sneaky though as he is often able to hide his real intent of trolling and because he is much politer about it, it comes off as more mild. But it is that same 'trolling' mentality and need.

    Now, I want to be clear that "naysayers and non-believers" of AP or AP claims are not all trolls, IMO. That isn't a label I put on someone just because they are a non-believer of AP or disagree with me on any topic. People have the right to believe what they like and even question claims. I am more than fine with that. But when these so called non-believers don't even believe what they are saying (Singer) or manipulate what is said and even worse photos (Mendelson), to try to discredit someone...that crosses the line into trolling for me.

    And when someone has a history of doing nothing but these behaviors, making it clear their intent is to only troll and be disruptive, I don't think they should be welcome on any forum regardless of the forum topic. It's not fair to the owner/administrators of the forum and it's not fair to the members that want to participate in a constructive manner.

    I hate sinking to the level of these trolls with the nastiness and name-calling. But why should I let some bitter old dude (and they almost all are) with an empty life, in need of attention, ruin a forum for me?
    Last edited by kewlJ; 09-19-2017 at 03:43 PM.

  17. #177
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Alan, since this is yet another topic you apparently don't know about (but yet have an opinion), allow me to educate you. There is nothing libel about my statements. If I said that you murdered someone, or committed a crime and there was no such evidence of these actions, that could be considered libel. But me voicing my opinion that you are dishonest and manipulative and a "shyster" is just that....my opinion.

    You have more than earned the title "shyster" with you many dishonest and manipulative actions against me and others. So just stop your crying you old fool.
    You seem to have forgotten "scam artist".

    What's your real name?

  18. #178
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    You seem to have forgotten "scam artist".
    I didn't forget scam artist at all. A person with a "TV show"....with the premise of finding bargain for consumers, when in actuality all these bargains are paid advertisers is the quintessential definition of scam artist. You are presenting yourself and your "show" as something that it is not.

    It's dishonest and manipulative. While not against the law, it is so misleading that the government requires a disclaimer to protect viewer. Dishonesty and manipulation seem to be the traits that make up Alan Mendelson, on and off message board forums.

    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    What's your real name?
    Continuing to show how detached from reality you are.

  19. #179
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    I hate sinking to the level of these trolls with the nastiness and name-calling. But why should I let some bitter old dude (and they almost all are) with an empty life, in need of attention, ruin a forum for me?
    Kewlj,
    You say you hate sinking to this level, but it seems you have gotten quite comfortable doing so. I don't mean to attack you but this back-and-forth with Alan has become more than ridiculous. I don't agree with everything Alan says, and I get it, you took offense, but a lot of your responses are just plain mean. He said some things, you vehemently disagreed and you made your points. Can we just move on now.

  20. #180
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    He said some things, you vehemently disagreed and you made your points. Can we just move on now.
    I will sincerely try to.

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