Superbowl Weekend - Vegas

[kewlJ]

Fuck you Mdawg. You are a degenerate LOSING gambler (wealthy or not) and a lying piece of shit making up some fictional story about how great you are. And it isn't just gambling. according to your story, you are the best at every thing you do. Every stock trade a winner (after the fact).

I know it pains you to read it every day in my signature, but Dan Druff the owner of this forum and an experienced gambler/player has stated in no uncertain terms that your claims are "Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete". That is being kind for bullshit!!

And the only reason Michael Shackleford the "wizard" who runs (doesn't own but still runs) the other forum you are on, hasn't publicly stated the same conclusion is that you forced him to sign an agreement not to talk. And you hold that over his head and threaten him every time he has the desire to say something.

So just go fuck yourself you degenerate gambler troll. LOSING Gambler!! Who so desperately want to be and wants people to think you are something else.

[MDawg]

The above post is a classic example of an UNKewlJ typical lying post:

1. Provides no evidence - other than sometimes mentioning that, "the math works" or "the math doesn't work."

2. Repeats the same things over and over - "manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over."

3. Tries to shoe horn his now worn smooth fable about being a multi year blackjack player into the topic. "I've been a professional player for X years and made X million dollars already blah blah blah so I know how it works."

3. Includes some kind of rant about MDawg / Singer / etc.

4. Misstates most of what he even references. Frequently contradicts himself.

5. Refers to unknown never will be seen APs or other experts who know him, will vouch for whatever it is he is claiming, or work with him.

6. Tries to distill any opposition to whatever it is he claims to "trolling" and "a witch hunt." – “poor poor KJ always the victim.” *

* 7. (Optional) Mentions that he doesn't really care what people think about him and that no one need prove anything.

[MisterV]

Presumably the viewers here, be they forum members or lurkers, are smart enough to sift through the claims and decide who is full of shit and who isn't.

The fact that so many pile on KJ is intriguing...sort of a "group gaslighting" by jaded gamblers angling to feel better about themselves.

'What is Reality?'

[MDawg]

KJ's claims, if false, pale in comparison.

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

And actually, lately...his lies have gone beyond the math.

Say you ran well and got 8 hands out of $15FP, this is still about a 1 in 5000 occurrence... certainly plausible but unlikely. To put it into perspective, if a casino gave you $15FP every day, it would take an avg of 14 years for this to happen. Problem is you claim that so many unlikely events have happened to you, and a few of them have been indisputedly proven untrue. To get overall probability you multiply the events together, and when you do that with the totality of all that you have claimed, it DOES defy the math!

I would put FraudJ's claim of a $100k lick on $50 free play as less likely than any of Grandpa Newell's stories.

I do know. You're lying and you buried yourself yet again. Get help....RIP

He would be an idiot if he gave the chance of your 50 to 100k story to be anything but zero.

[MaxPen]

KJ's claims, if false, pale in comparison.

Because they're "modest" lies?

[jdog]

Your just digging in deeper. Saying that people who gamble a lot experience rare events is fine. And sure if you play a lot of VP, you're going to hit many Royals. But in the series of single events of playing a very small amount of freeplay every day, it will take 14 yrs avg for that to occur from the freeplay action alone. Actually probably more because you might not get 8 hands on avg.

It was just the 3 spins. You don't build up more free play by hitting something small.

See when you say stuff like this it makes me think you've never actually played much VP. Are you saying you will drop a high pair to go for the Royal??

[accountinquestion]

I have a new challenge for you, Mdawg. We will wait to see what comes of Missions146's effort to put a total to your 6 years of claims and further see if Wizard wants to comment or is able to comment, but assuming he doesn't comment, you publicly release Shackleford from the DNA with a post stating such at WoV, and I will invite Mike to spend an afternoon with me, watching me play. He would need to accompany me to several sessions because I play short sessions and move around a lot, but I think he can keep up.

At the end, Wizard will reveal based on the play he observed, which of us is more likely to have results that match our long-term claims. Let's not muck it up with money because that shit never happens. And the only thing Wizard would be restricted from saying about me is anything that would reveal or even hint at my identity.

How about that Mr Big shot? Let's hear your excuse.

add on: I would have to work out the logistics because having a known AP like Wizard shadowing me couldn't be good, but I think we could work something out.

Presumably you'd have a contract where wizard is released from NDA once you prove something? If you put up a challenge you have to offer something first. Especially a guy with you who has less credibility than anyone on here.

What would Shackleford be able to ascertain? That you can play basic strategy and adjust your bet to the count? Serious question. Why would there be "logistics" in watching you? Why would he have a hard time keeping up with you? Do you sprint from one casino to a other? Is that how you broke your arm?

I thought Shackleford did outdoor stuff at least... so this part makes no sense.... unless.... unless.. you are preemptively looking for a way out.

[kewlJ]

Put it in perspective: nothing compares to Alan's claim of seeing 18 yo's in a row at Caesars.

After that, I'd say Robert and the Dawg's claims of casino conquest are a close second.

KJ's claims, if false, pale in comparison.

Counselor, I object to even putting Alan's 18 y.o. in a row claim in the same breath as Mdawg and Rob Singer.

Alan, may he rest in peace, was mistaken. He probably really thought that is what he witnessed. Maybe exaggerated, thinking he saw more than he did, maybe there was something in the middle and he really saw two smaller runs in a short time. But I don't think Alan intentionally set out to deceive anyone. And that is the difference between he and Mdawg and Singer. Alan didn't even claim he was playing or benefited. Unfortunately for Alan this claim took on a life of it's own. When the math was pointed out by Wizard, Alan was just too stubborn to back down and consider that maybe that isn't exactly what he saw.

Singer and Mdawg, both intentionally set out to deceive people. And their claims involved them making millions of dollars, when they didn't. Both are losing degenerate gamblers by my definition. And both claiming things for no other reason than to impress people. One of the "tells" of these people is that you can see their claims escalate over time. They need to make bigger claims to get the attention they desire. That is what it is really about.

As I always say, people can think whatever they like about me, but my claims and story is very similar to a number of other blackjack card counters (most who have moved on to other advantage play). I have read some similar journeys on some forums and heard some on the guests on GWAE. And I am not copying anyone because I was sharing my journey and experiences before I even heard of most of them, especially the guests on GWAE. Richard invited me to be on GWAE 12 years ago when we were both at Norm's forum. I had my reasons for not wanting to. Mainly as an active player, I decide what I want to share and what I don't. I didn't want to be in a position where Richard was asking questions and I didn't answer or gave evasive answers. I didn't think that fair to him.

Mickey seems to speak somewhat regularly with Richard, mickey could you ask Richard if he invited me on 12-13 years ago? Just for the sake of these a-Holes.

Anyway, the point I was going for is there is a reason why a number of players, especially card counters or guys who started with card counting have similar stories. Because THAT is the way things work! There is no nonsense claims of casinos and casino personél allowing you to win, Or spreads of 1-50 playing double deck blackjack rated. Nor any machines talking to you about hot and cold cycles. Nor has anybody stole an actual story and claim from the news.

[MDawg]

And again...

The above post is a classic example of an UNKewlJ typical lying post:

1. Provides no evidence - other than sometimes mentioning that, "the math works" or "the math doesn't work."

2. Repeats the same things over and over - "manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over."

3. Tries to shoe horn his now worn smooth fable about being a multi year blackjack player into the topic. "I've been a professional player for X years and made X million dollars already blah blah blah so I know how it works."

3. Includes some kind of rant about MDawg / Singer / etc.

4. Misstates most of what he even references. Frequently contradicts himself.

5. Refers to unknown never will be seen APs or other experts who know him, will vouch for whatever it is he is claiming, or work with him.

6. Tries to distill any opposition to whatever it is he claims to "trolling" and "a witch hunt." – “poor poor KJ always the victim.” *

* 7. (Optional) Mentions that he doesn't really care what people think about him and that no one need prove anything.

[accountinquestion]

Presumably the viewers here, be they forum members or lurkers, are smart enough to sift through the claims and decide who is full of shit and who isn't.

The fact that so many pile on KJ is intriguing...sort of a "group gaslighting" by jaded gamblers angling to feel better about themselves.

'What is Reality?'

What are you going on about. Sticking up for kewl makes you sound like an ass-harp. If kewl doesn't want abuse then stop doubling down on the lies. Quite simple. This place is for amusement not for kewls twisted therapy fantasy land where he gets a pass for being special.

He's not giving anyone else a pass.

[MDawg]

Your just digging in deeper. Saying that people who gamble a lot experience rare events is fine. And sure if you play a lot of VP, you're going to hit many Royals. But in the series of single events of playing a very small amount of freeplay every day, it will take 14 yrs avg for that to occur from the freeplay action alone. Actually probably more because you might not get 8 hands on avg.

It was just the 3 spins. You don't build up more free play by hitting something small.

See when you say stuff like this it makes me think you've never actually played much VP. Are you saying you will drop a high pair to go for the Royal??

He's almost never described a single hand of actual blackjack play too.

Millions of words spent trying to explain why this person or that person or this or that "isn't the way it works" but not only no credible descriptions of actual casino play, but frequent contradictions and nonsense that make it clear that he doesn't much play at all.

SeedValue in fact states that he has verifiably established that UNKewlJ merely plays a little at casinos as a cover for a male prostitution extortion scheme.

Get help.

[kewlJ]

It was just the 3 spins. You don't build up more free play by hitting something small.

See when you say stuff like this it makes me think you've never actually played much VP. Are you saying you will drop a high pair to go for the Royal??

That is NOT what I am saying at all. $15 dollars free play is 3 rounds at $1 denominations ($5 a hand or round). Anything you win, doesn't add more free play. Those winning are in real money. But whatever you win you only get the 3 rounds off of the free play. I hit that royal on the second round of the 3, I believe.

[MDawg]

What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.

Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

[kewlJ]

He's almost never described a single hand of actual blackjack play too.

Why would I or any one describe individual rounds of blackjack play. Can you get any more boring?

I hit my 12 with a 7 for 19. dealer had a 10 showing and turned over a king. Lost.
I stood on my 18. dealer hit his 5, with a 7 and then queen. dealer busted....I won.
I split my 8's winning one hand losing the other.

For God sakes. Noone cares about that shit but you. Now if something unusual happens, like the perfect shoe I just shared again, or maybe splitting and resplitting with a few couple double downs at max bet, that might be interesting and I have shared that kind of thing. But no one cares about individual hands unless there is something unusual. The last thing I want to read is EvenBob say he bet red and red 23 hit.

But in the original sharing of my perfect shoe back on Wizards forum, I did share an unusual hand. One of the hands pushed was a player 10 vs dealer 10. With a very high count the optimal play is to double down, which is incorrect any other time. I chose not to double down and drew a 2 and then a second draw of an 8 for 20, which pushed the dealer 20. (not even sure those were the exact values, maybe it was 3 and 7), but that was the scenario. Had I doubled which the count called for I would have lost the double down. As it was, I pushed with my "supermax bet" (that is another story) out at the time.

And I didn't decide not to double down on a hunch. I don't do hunches. It was the optimal play. But I was already drawing mega heat, with a number of pit folks watching and I was afraid doubling my 10, drawing a 10 or ace and winning would draw even more because doubling 10 vs 10 is so unusual. At that point my focus was on getting through that shoe, hopefully winning as many 'super max bets' as possible and getting out of there without incident. Which I did.

But you telling us individual hands you have played is as boring as watching paint dry.

[kewlJ]

What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.

Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

Dude, people including YOU and Maxpen who you quoted, on one hand claim ever-changing stories and then in the next breath will say something about me having practiced and worn my story smooth. You people will say anything that suits you at the time.

The fact is, my story, what I have shared is extremely consistent. And there is good reason for that. Nothing to remember.

Now how about you explain what happened to "the mid 7 figure mansion"? Talk about your ever-changing stories.

Or here is another one: How about 7 months of claiming you won, you won, you won, almost every day and then a single line that "Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even for the trip". When Mission146 gets to that part of the tabulation, hopefully he will have some thoughts on that.

[MDawg]

The longer the UNKewl post, the more lies it contains.

And of course, there will be some regurgitation of theory he pulled from somewhere or other blah blah blah as he tries to make it seem like he has actually played and not just read about it.

[kewlJ]

Also on sharing individual unusual hands or rounds, that can be identifying.

Several years ago, I shared an event from some play at a mid-size casino. I was spreading green to black, playing my max bet of $400. Count quickly hits max bet number so I throw out my $400. Bet loses. Pit boss is standing right there watching and has watched me raise to my max bet. So I throw out $800. I look directly at the pit guy and say, "I am going to keep doubling my bet until I win".

I lose the $800 bet. Lose the $1600 bet. Lose the $3200 bet. Table max is $5000 and I ask if I can bet $6400, doubling my last bet. I am told no, so I wager $5000. There were only a couple hands left and stayed at that table max amount I think I won 2 of the last 3 including a blackjack. It was great cover. Betting way over my comfort level but great cover for that specific circumstances.

The problem was I shared that on a forum and then the next time I played that casino received some heat, even before I raised very much. Could have been co-incidence, but I think there is a good chance my blabber-mouth cost me in that easily identifiable instance.

[kewlJ]

Also on sharing individual unusual hands or rounds, that can be identifying.

Several years ago, I shared an event from some play at a mid-size casino. I was spreading green to black, playing my max bet of $400. Count quickly hits max bet number so I throw out my $400. Bet loses. Pit boss is standing right there watching and has watched me raise to my max bet. So I throw out $800. I look directly at the pit guy and say, "I am going to keep doubling my bet until I win".

I lose the $800 bet. Lose the $1600 bet. Lose the $3200 bet. Table max is $5000 and I ask if I can bet $6400, doubling my last bet. I am told no, so I wager $5000. There were only a couple hands left and stayed at that table max amount I think I won 2 of the last 3 including a blackjack. It was great cover. Betting way over my comfort level but great cover for that specific circumstances.

The problem was I shared that on a forum and then the next time I played that casino received some heat, even before I raised very much. Could have been co-incidence, but I think there is a good chance my blabber-mouth cost me in that easily identifiable instance.

Anyway, it is a rainy day here in Vegas, meaning wet carpet on the balcony , but I do have to go out for a bit, so you haters and trolls, keep jerking your little puds which hunting me.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ: I'd like people to think I was spreading green to black.

Reality is, he's a

mentally ill redchipper

.

You had red chips in front of you. I ignored it and even defended it to others. Especially since it was Eastside Cannery. Not the wrong guy. Sorry.

At least you didn't deny the black hair. Since you're so sure I'm wrong. What do you think about me posting as close an image as I can find of what you look like?

Then I can post an image that corresponds to your partner and people can judge the Sugar Daddy situation for themselves....LOL

Let me know.

Can you imagine if Wizard ever saw me playing with only red and green chips? Of course it means something it means UNKewlJ is a Fraud.

[Rob.Singer]

You folks DO realize you're excoriating the official LV "Man About Town" who knows, better than anybody else, exactly "how things work" in town....correct?

Give the twitchy little fairy a pass for all his lying; give him some leeway for all those denials; and above all, remember, he's as much an "expert" at vp as he is about blackjack.

He certainly is someone special!