So the owner of the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas ..

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Just keeping it in your possession automatically negates all classified status of the documents?

If you are the POTUS, then the answer is yes. He or she can declassify whatever the fuck they want. Just like many of the other presidents before Trump did.

hypothetical -
So if we somehow knew that Trump did infact take classified materials that had the capacity to do great harm to our country and they were found in some unlocked bathroom in his house, would you still defend him?

No I would not defend Trump under this scenario which never occurred and with declassified documents which have an unknown level of harmfulness. No one cares if I defend Trump. I am a nobody. The point is Trump was legally entitled to take these documents and declassify them with or without formal process. It doesn't matter if it was reckless or not with respect to indicting him. The point of giving the POTUS this kind of power under constitutional law and also the PRA (presidential records act) is to make sure the government cannot prevent crucial information from getting out if the president thinks their secrecy would harm the american people. So if, instead, a POTUS is evil or crazy enough to do it with highly sensitive documents - there is nothing legally that can be done. It isn't even remotely proven that Trump had this motivation or that any of the declassified documents are highly damaging even though the Deep State psychopaths are trying to portray it this way in their total obsession to create a prison planet.

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but I just see a urge to blame Clinton for the whole thing when there is tons of blame going around.

Why should someone who didn't repeal the Glass-Steagull Act be blamed instead of the person that did repeal the Glass-Steagull Act ? Shouldn't the person that did it be blamed ?

[monet]

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[accountinquestion]

Just keeping it in your possession automatically negates all classified status of the documents?

If you are the POTUS, then the answer is yes. He or she can declassify whatever the fuck they want. Just like many of the other presidents before Trump did.

Still not understanding this possession implies de-classification. So if a President has a "Top secret" item in his possession it is automatically declassified? Serious question.

hypothetical -
So if we somehow knew that Trump did infact take classified materials that had the capacity to do great harm to our country and they were found in some unlocked bathroom in his house, would you still defend him?

No I would not defend Trump under this scenario which never occurred and with declassified documents which have an unknown level of harmfulness. No one cares if I defend Trump. I am a nobody. The point is Trump was legally entitled to take these documents and declassify them with or without formal process. It doesn't matter if it was reckless or not with respect to indicting him. The point of giving the POTUS this kind of power under constitutional law and also the PRA (presidential records act) is to make sure the government cannot prevent crucial information from getting out if the president thinks their secrecy would harm the american people. So if, instead, a POTUS is evil or crazy enough to do it with highly sensitive documents - there is nothing legally that can be done. It isn't even remotely proven that Trump had this motivation or that any of the declassified documents are highly damaging even though the Deep State psychopaths are trying to portray it this way in their total obsession to create a prison planet.

My understanding he had people moving the stuff all over which suggests more. If they were declassified then why not just present them and say "They were already declassified" ?
Why is he doing some conspiratorial stuff? He should have just handed over the documents at the beginning? What am I missing?

[accountinquestion]

but I just see a urge to blame Clinton for the whole thing when there is tons of blame going around.

Why should someone who didn't repeal the Glass-Steagull Act be blamed instead of the person that did repeal the Glass-Steagull Act ? Shouldn't the person that did it be blamed ?

If you are the type of person who thinks one person should be blamed for everything in this example then sure. No one has accountability in a general sense except for 1 person.

Clearly we see the world very differently in this regard.

I'm not saying Clinton didn't have some blame but it seems a bit off to suggest it was all his fault.

I believe consumer protection laws are in general a good thing. Again, I don't know much about Glass-Steagall. It may have had other positive effects that you're not giving Clinton credit for. I don't know enough but could also give examples. My whole point is to not debate the value of Glass-Steagall - I have no clue. I just know it is funny to suggest no one else has any culpability except for the guy who removed the law. I dunno.. seems like I could twist that sort of weird AF thinking with analogous examples.

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If you are the POTUS, then the answer is yes. He or she can declassify whatever the fuck they want. Just like many of the other presidents before Trump did.

Still not understanding this possession implies de-classification. So if a President has a "Top secret" item in his possession it is automatically declassified? Serious question.

hypothetical -
So if we somehow knew that Trump did infact take classified materials that had the capacity to do great harm to our country and they were found in some unlocked bathroom in his house, would you still defend him?

No I would not defend Trump under this scenario which never occurred and with declassified documents which have an unknown level of harmfulness. No one cares if I defend Trump. I am a nobody. The point is Trump was legally entitled to take these documents and declassify them with or without formal process. It doesn't matter if it was reckless or not with respect to indicting him. The point of giving the POTUS this kind of power under constitutional law and also the PRA (presidential records act) is to make sure the government cannot prevent crucial information from getting out if the president thinks their secrecy would harm the american people. So if, instead, a POTUS is evil or crazy enough to do it with highly sensitive documents - there is nothing legally that can be done. It isn't even remotely proven that Trump had this motivation or that any of the declassified documents are highly damaging even though the Deep State psychopaths are trying to portray it this way in their total obsession to create a prison planet.

My understanding he had people moving the stuff all over which suggests more. If they were declassified then why not just present them and say "They were already declassified" ?
Why is he doing some conspiratorial stuff? He should have just handed over the documents at the beginning? What am I missing?

I am not going to try and guess what Trump's motivations were. He is legally entitled to do what he did, but nonetheless he was indicted by Deep State psychopaths who will do anything to stop him from being elected president.

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Again, I don't know much about Glass-Steagall. It may have had other positive effects that you're not giving Clinton credit for.

Yes, I agree - it had many positive effects. Now it cannot have any positive effects since it no longer exists. This is because Clinton decided to repeal it in 1999. This enabled irresponsible, greedy idiots to ruin peoples' lives since these idiots were given legal power to do so. Another example is the 2007 subprime mortgage crash. Banks would not have been allowed to invest in the mortgage-backed securities market since the Glass-Steagall Act would have prevented them from doing so. Instead, the banksters were bailed out using our tax money to fix their bad bets via TARP which president Obama signed off on. I will state now explicitly that Bill Clinton had an enormous role in this regional bank debacle since, none of this could have occurred if he didn't repeal the Glass-Steagall Act.

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Anyone who thinks or wants to think that Trump is going to be locked up over this documents nonsense is sadly mistaken. We'll hear all kinds of stories both ways for the next 12-24 months, throughout appeals etc., until it gets to the Supreme Court. And there's where the counterfeit buck stops cold. In the meantime we can only hope he becomes president again. This country sorely needs him, which any breathing American can easily tell.

Liberals in the audience will readily eat up the MSM's wish list of phony charges, social media lies, and shortsighted spin just so they can think Trump's gonna go to jail. But at the end of this embarrassing day, like it or not, we will all clearly see how what he did, how he did it, and why he did it, did not break any laws that a jealous and forever angry (for THANKFULLY being knocked out of going to the Supreme Court) Merrick Garland did not make up or lie about.

What's gonna be more interesting very shortly is watching the Biden Crime Syndicate go up in flames. Maybe they'll even take that witch Hillary with them.

[monet]

My issue with the whole thing is that Trump is either ignorant or has inferior people around him.
I do not understand why he let them into his residence.
I do not understand why he allowed them to take his property.
I do not understand why he showed up and turned himself into New York.
I do not understand why he allowed them to fingerprint and book him.
Trump should of told them to Fuck Off.
The Deep State literally changed the laws for one year only, so they could indict him in New York.
Those laws literally go back to the former law in less than a year from now.
That should bother anyone, that the powers that be, can change the laws, at any time they see fit, to do anything they want to you.
Even a Former President, which is not only ridiculous but unheard of.
And the sad fact is that it seems to be working.
The Fucking Left is Ruthless.
Pretty Soon we will be officially under Nazi Rule, at this rate, which I find highly ironic.
They make Nixon look like a Saint compared to Trump and Nixon was far worse.
I could care less about Trump.
I find him highly entertaining but at least with Trump he sometimes actually tells the truth.
And it's obvious that the Deep State will not tolerate the Truth being told about their Kabal.
IMO Trump dropped the ball when he got onboard with all the Pro Vaccine Bullshit and he allowed the Deep State to Shut the Economy down.
That was a Huge Blunder.
He should of never allowed all the bullshit mandates and that bullshit about "Essential Business".
Fucking Grocery and Hardware Stores allowed to be open but we need to close down Gyms and the Beach???
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!

[mickeycrimm]

I don't like the idea of what Hillary did but I am not seeing how it compares to Trump. Even GWB did something very similar to Hillary. https://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/...ls-497373.html

You have no idea whether Russians and CHinese hacked her server but it was done on a shitty microsoft server by a putz IT guy who didn't have it encrypted properly at the start. If she should have went to jail, then I suspect there are lots of people in GWB's administration who should have also.


References, please?. Everything i'm reading said she didn't have any top secret documents but apparently the subject matter she discussed made the emails deemed sensitive and secret after the fact.

From wiki -
Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret".

SO she did not deliberately take classified documents and send them via email. If you believe that then well this all goes back to her lock her up.





Just because you think your dear beloved ex-president is above any rules doesn't mean the rest of us believe he can totally snub this country's security.

THERE WAS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO INDICT HILLARY. THE FBI HELPED HER BY NOT CHARGING HER. THE FBI INVENTS CHARGES ON REPUBLICANS AND COVERS UP DEMOCRAT CRIMES.

Yes, to the same extent GWB should have been indicted. He did the same shit. Look it up. Pull your head out of your partisan ass. What Trump did is considerably different than either of those.

GWB and Hillary did it as part of their job. Likely to prevent partisan hacks from weaponizing emails. I don't like it, but what either did is not the same as Trump.

Trump and his 'lock her up lock her up'. What a piece of shit that guy.

As far as media etc, again it goes both ways. Look into history of Fox News and Trump. Just liberals don't whine about it as much and perhaps it isn't the same as what Twitter did. Twitter however never claimed to be anything like a news organization.

FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM.

Fox is the biggest conservative News outlet, right? Actually their viewership is more than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED and it isn't even close. 2% ? Ditz, is that you? And now they don't count? lol. Do you crack up at yourself when you look in the mirror? "A ton of evidence". Maybe if you live on Mars with Ditz. Anyway, it is reported by the MSM, just do a google. If it does in fact have gravity behind it then it will be all over the place.


LOL....THE DEMS ARE AFTER TAKING AWAY YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS BUT YOU BITCH ABOUT REPUBLICANS TRYING TO KEEP PORNOGRAPHY OUT OF GRADE SCHOOLS.

THE FIRST THING THE FASCIST DEMS WANT TO REMOVE FROM YOU ARE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS. IT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST THING FASCISTS REMOVE.

Pornography in grade schools ? lol. Okey dokey. I'm sure there are some books that would be best to not be in the library but it is all political stunts. Having a book about some trans kid doesn't make it porn.

As far as Fascists - not only is this nonsensical but you do realize that Trump has suggested we suspend the Constitution because he LOST. This is a joke.

You obviously haven't seen the latest primetime viewership stats:

CNN 600,000
FNC 1.5 million
MSNBC 1.7 million.

That's right. MSNBC is beating FNC ever since the idiots fired Tucker Carlson.

Watch Comey state that classified information was on Hillary's server.



Trump was president for 4 years and didn't do anything to Hillary. But dems are to much sleazeball to give Trump the same respect.

Please show the quote where Trump said "suspend the constitution." No hearsay allowed. Only video of Trump saying that or any official document of Trump saying that is allowed. No lying bastards used as source, please.

And puhleeeeeeeese, quit using fake fucking news sources for any of your cited information.

Then kill yourself.

Ok so Tucker made Fox go under MSNBC. I guess that settles it.

"FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM."

I can't argue with that, just that as of a month ago Fox was actually the most wildly viewed news source. I am not sure how to quantify "the media". Just nonsense.

lol at me reading news outlet viewerships. You are correct. It is not relevant to me in any way so yea, I can say I kept up on them.

Here is the quote from trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/media-...set-off-alarms
Ok, it wasn't "suspend" the word was "terminate". Oh you got me Ditz. Nice strawman ya fuckin goofball.

I said that Comey said yes, there was classified stuff. I believe if you talk about classified stuff then that is implied to be classified. This is not the same as taking the original documents. I may be wrong about this but I try to stay away from hack news sources. I did come up with Fox for you just so you don't claim it is made up. lol making news up.

You'll never change your mind about anything. Maybe you changed it on Rob Singer when he talked you into his bs. lol. Ok 1 time, I am AGAIN wrong.

Fist of all, Fox News is part of the lamestream media. They are part of the uniparty (democrats and republicans) that run the country. I don't know where you came up with FNC being "the most wildly viewed news source. In primetime they were at 3 million viewers, about 2 million for MSNBC and 600,000 for CNN. The network news channels pull about 15 million. So Fox News ain't jackshit compared to the MSM.

And Tucker did not make FNC go under MSNBC. FNC did that to themselves when they fired Tucker without good cause. They still to this day haven't given a reason for the firing. It pissed their viewership off to the point FNC lost over a 3rd of it's audience.

But cable and network are dying anyway. Digital/streaming is the wave of the future. I've just about totally switched over. I don't watch FNC since Tucker left. And all I watched was his opening monologue anyway. As KJ said, cable news is entertainment. I only want the meat and potatoes. I don't want the filler.

You have to go to digital/streaming to get the real stories, to get to the truth. Cable and network is all propaganda.

[mickeycrimm]

PS: You didn't have a problem voting for decrepit 79 year old Biden in 2020.

I don't think this is being honest, nor fair mickeycrimm. I had a MAJOR problem voting for Joe Biden at 78 years old. (he was 78 on election day, 79 later in November.) I along with many other former or displaced republicans just did not feel we were given a choice.

Now let me ask you this mickeycrim, and others, hoping but not expecting an honest answer. You guys that screamed about Joe Biden being to old in 2020 at age 78, what are you going to be saying next year if Trump is still running when he too will be 78 on election day?

I didn't call Biden out about his age in 2020. I called him out for being an idiot.

[mickeycrimm]

I don't watch cable news at all. Why on Earth you think this is a relevant thing to follow is beyond me. Is cable news like sports to you? Fox is your dog in the race?

Help me understand why I should give a fuck.

C'mon, dude. You can't be that stupid. It says right on the screen "TUCKER ON TWITTER." That's not cable news. You have to go to Twitter to watch Tucker these days. He's done 3 episodes so far, only about 10 minutes long each which is what I like. And he is a big hit. The first two are at 170 million views combined. That's beating the MSM all to hell and back.

Tucker doesn't do the party line for dems or republicans. You get his independent take on things. That's why FNC fired him. You don't get the fake news/propaganda bullshit from Tucker. Both Dems and Repubs hate him.

[accountinquestion]

I am not going to try and guess what Trump's motivations were. He is legally entitled to do what he did, but nonetheless he was indicted by Deep State psychopaths who will do anything to stop him from being elected president.

You seem oddly selective in what you decide to guess about and that which you refuse to guess about,

[accountinquestion]

Again, I don't know much about Glass-Steagall. It may have had other positive effects that you're not giving Clinton credit for.

Yes, I agree - it had many positive effects. Now it cannot have any positive effects since it no longer exists. This is because Clinton decided to repeal it in 1999. This enabled irresponsible, greedy idiots to ruin peoples' lives since these idiots were given legal power to do so. Another example is the 2007 subprime mortgage crash. Banks would not have been allowed to invest in the mortgage-backed securities market since the Glass-Steagall Act would have prevented them from doing so. Instead, the banksters were bailed out using our tax money to fix their bad bets via TARP which president Obama signed off on. I will state now explicitly that Bill Clinton had an enormous role in this regional bank debacle since, none of this could have occurred if he didn't repeal the Glass-Steagall Act.

Clearly I misspoke a bit and you intentionally misinterpreted.

At least you're not saying it was all Clinton's fault but none the less interesting about the 2007 crisis.

[accountinquestion]

I don't like the idea of what Hillary did but I am not seeing how it compares to Trump. Even GWB did something very similar to Hillary. https://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/...ls-497373.html

You have no idea whether Russians and CHinese hacked her server but it was done on a shitty microsoft server by a putz IT guy who didn't have it encrypted properly at the start. If she should have went to jail, then I suspect there are lots of people in GWB's administration who should have also.


References, please?. Everything i'm reading said she didn't have any top secret documents but apparently the subject matter she discussed made the emails deemed sensitive and secret after the fact.

From wiki -
Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret".

SO she did not deliberately take classified documents and send them via email. If you believe that then well this all goes back to her lock her up.





Just because you think your dear beloved ex-president is above any rules doesn't mean the rest of us believe he can totally snub this country's security.

THERE WAS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO INDICT HILLARY. THE FBI HELPED HER BY NOT CHARGING HER. THE FBI INVENTS CHARGES ON REPUBLICANS AND COVERS UP DEMOCRAT CRIMES.

Yes, to the same extent GWB should have been indicted. He did the same shit. Look it up. Pull your head out of your partisan ass. What Trump did is considerably different than either of those.

GWB and Hillary did it as part of their job. Likely to prevent partisan hacks from weaponizing emails. I don't like it, but what either did is not the same as Trump.

Trump and his 'lock her up lock her up'. What a piece of shit that guy.

As far as media etc, again it goes both ways. Look into history of Fox News and Trump. Just liberals don't whine about it as much and perhaps it isn't the same as what Twitter did. Twitter however never claimed to be anything like a news organization.

FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM.

Fox is the biggest conservative News outlet, right? Actually their viewership is more than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED and it isn't even close. 2% ? Ditz, is that you? And now they don't count? lol. Do you crack up at yourself when you look in the mirror? "A ton of evidence". Maybe if you live on Mars with Ditz. Anyway, it is reported by the MSM, just do a google. If it does in fact have gravity behind it then it will be all over the place.


LOL....THE DEMS ARE AFTER TAKING AWAY YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS BUT YOU BITCH ABOUT REPUBLICANS TRYING TO KEEP PORNOGRAPHY OUT OF GRADE SCHOOLS.

THE FIRST THING THE FASCIST DEMS WANT TO REMOVE FROM YOU ARE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS. IT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST THING FASCISTS REMOVE.

Pornography in grade schools ? lol. Okey dokey. I'm sure there are some books that would be best to not be in the library but it is all political stunts. Having a book about some trans kid doesn't make it porn.

As far as Fascists - not only is this nonsensical but you do realize that Trump has suggested we suspend the Constitution because he LOST. This is a joke.

You obviously haven't seen the latest primetime viewership stats:

CNN 600,000
FNC 1.5 million
MSNBC 1.7 million.

That's right. MSNBC is beating FNC ever since the idiots fired Tucker Carlson.

Watch Comey state that classified information was on Hillary's server.



Trump was president for 4 years and didn't do anything to Hillary. But dems are to much sleazeball to give Trump the same respect.

Please show the quote where Trump said "suspend the constitution." No hearsay allowed. Only video of Trump saying that or any official document of Trump saying that is allowed. No lying bastards used as source, please.

And puhleeeeeeeese, quit using fake fucking news sources for any of your cited information.

Then kill yourself.

Ok so Tucker made Fox go under MSNBC. I guess that settles it.

"FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM."

I can't argue with that, just that as of a month ago Fox was actually the most wildly viewed news source. I am not sure how to quantify "the media". Just nonsense.

lol at me reading news outlet viewerships. You are correct. It is not relevant to me in any way so yea, I can say I kept up on them.

Here is the quote from trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/media-...set-off-alarms
Ok, it wasn't "suspend" the word was "terminate". Oh you got me Ditz. Nice strawman ya fuckin goofball.

I said that Comey said yes, there was classified stuff. I believe if you talk about classified stuff then that is implied to be classified. This is not the same as taking the original documents. I may be wrong about this but I try to stay away from hack news sources. I did come up with Fox for you just so you don't claim it is made up. lol making news up.

You'll never change your mind about anything. Maybe you changed it on Rob Singer when he talked you into his bs. lol. Ok 1 time, I am AGAIN wrong.

Fist of all, Fox News is part of the lamestream media. They are part of the uniparty (democrats and republicans) that run the country. I don't know where you came up with FNC being "the most wildly viewed news source. In primetime they were at 3 million viewers, about 2 million for MSNBC and 600,000 for CNN. The network news channels pull about 15 million. So Fox News ain't jackshit compared to the MSM.

And Tucker did not make FNC go under MSNBC. FNC did that to themselves when they fired Tucker without good cause. They still to this day haven't given a reason for the firing. It pissed their viewership off to the point FNC lost over a 3rd of it's audience.

But cable and network are dying anyway. Digital/streaming is the wave of the future. I've just about totally switched over. I don't watch FNC since Tucker left. And all I watched was his opening monologue anyway. As KJ said, cable news is entertainment. I only want the meat and potatoes. I don't want the filler.

You have to go to digital/streaming to get the real stories, to get to the truth. Cable and network is all propaganda.

It should be clear when I say "Tucker made .." what was meant. We all know Tucker was fired and his departure hurt Fox. What else could I have meant? You are correcting that?

I have to admit I had no idea people following ABC/NBC news that much. I like to watch things on my schedule so I don't even consider them. I learned something here.

[accountinquestion]

I don't watch cable news at all. Why on Earth you think this is a relevant thing to follow is beyond me. Is cable news like sports to you? Fox is your dog in the race?

Help me understand why I should give a fuck.

C'mon, dude. You can't be that stupid. It says right on the screen "TUCKER ON TWITTER." That's not cable news. You have to go to Twitter to watch Tucker these days. He's done 3 episodes so far, only about 10 minutes long each which is what I like. And he is a big hit. The first two are at 170 million views combined. That's beating the MSM all to hell and back.

Tucker doesn't do the party line for dems or republicans. You get his independent take on things. That's why FNC fired him. You don't get the fake news/propaganda bullshit from Tucker. Both Dems and Repubs hate him.

Why did you chop out the part I was responding to?

These fucking lefty fascist bastards take their fake news sources seriously. Didn't even know that FNC no longer leads cable news. That's how out of touch these morons are. Dimwitted fuckers believe all that propaganda bullshit spewed by the lamestream media. LOL. Fucking lackey's.

Feebs, I will repeat this so you understand. Wipe the fucking drool off your chin first before we continue.

<waits> ok, thanks. It was distracting me. Couldn't type my words.

You seem to think by default that everyone should know the ranking of cable news. So you denigrate cable news but fault people for not following the rankings closely. I just asked why should that be important like you suggest?

BTW Tucker hated Trump too. Why is he not automatically a leftist? lol

[tableplay]

I am not going to try and guess what Trump's motivations were. He is legally entitled to do what he did, but nonetheless he was indicted by Deep State psychopaths who will do anything to stop him from being elected president.

You seem oddly selective in what you decide to guess about and that which you refuse to guess about,

I don't know what Trump's motivations were. Do you want me to lie and say I do ?

[mickeycrimm]

I don't like the idea of what Hillary did but I am not seeing how it compares to Trump. Even GWB did something very similar to Hillary. https://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/...ls-497373.html

You have no idea whether Russians and CHinese hacked her server but it was done on a shitty microsoft server by a putz IT guy who didn't have it encrypted properly at the start. If she should have went to jail, then I suspect there are lots of people in GWB's administration who should have also.


References, please?. Everything i'm reading said she didn't have any top secret documents but apparently the subject matter she discussed made the emails deemed sensitive and secret after the fact.

From wiki -
Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret".

SO she did not deliberately take classified documents and send them via email. If you believe that then well this all goes back to her lock her up.





Just because you think your dear beloved ex-president is above any rules doesn't mean the rest of us believe he can totally snub this country's security.

THERE WAS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO INDICT HILLARY. THE FBI HELPED HER BY NOT CHARGING HER. THE FBI INVENTS CHARGES ON REPUBLICANS AND COVERS UP DEMOCRAT CRIMES.

Yes, to the same extent GWB should have been indicted. He did the same shit. Look it up. Pull your head out of your partisan ass. What Trump did is considerably different than either of those.

GWB and Hillary did it as part of their job. Likely to prevent partisan hacks from weaponizing emails. I don't like it, but what either did is not the same as Trump.

Trump and his 'lock her up lock her up'. What a piece of shit that guy.

As far as media etc, again it goes both ways. Look into history of Fox News and Trump. Just liberals don't whine about it as much and perhaps it isn't the same as what Twitter did. Twitter however never claimed to be anything like a news organization.

FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM.

Fox is the biggest conservative News outlet, right? Actually their viewership is more than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED and it isn't even close. 2% ? Ditz, is that you? And now they don't count? lol. Do you crack up at yourself when you look in the mirror? "A ton of evidence". Maybe if you live on Mars with Ditz. Anyway, it is reported by the MSM, just do a google. If it does in fact have gravity behind it then it will be all over the place.


LOL....THE DEMS ARE AFTER TAKING AWAY YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS BUT YOU BITCH ABOUT REPUBLICANS TRYING TO KEEP PORNOGRAPHY OUT OF GRADE SCHOOLS.

THE FIRST THING THE FASCIST DEMS WANT TO REMOVE FROM YOU ARE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS. IT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST THING FASCISTS REMOVE.

Pornography in grade schools ? lol. Okey dokey. I'm sure there are some books that would be best to not be in the library but it is all political stunts. Having a book about some trans kid doesn't make it porn.

As far as Fascists - not only is this nonsensical but you do realize that Trump has suggested we suspend the Constitution because he LOST. This is a joke.

You obviously haven't seen the latest primetime viewership stats:

CNN 600,000
FNC 1.5 million
MSNBC 1.7 million.

That's right. MSNBC is beating FNC ever since the idiots fired Tucker Carlson.

Watch Comey state that classified information was on Hillary's server.



Trump was president for 4 years and didn't do anything to Hillary. But dems are to much sleazeball to give Trump the same respect.

Please show the quote where Trump said "suspend the constitution." No hearsay allowed. Only video of Trump saying that or any official document of Trump saying that is allowed. No lying bastards used as source, please.

And puhleeeeeeeese, quit using fake fucking news sources for any of your cited information.

Then kill yourself.

Ok so Tucker made Fox go under MSNBC. I guess that settles it.

"FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM."

I can't argue with that, just that as of a month ago Fox was actually the most wildly viewed news source. I am not sure how to quantify "the media". Just nonsense.

lol at me reading news outlet viewerships. You are correct. It is not relevant to me in any way so yea, I can say I kept up on them.

Here is the quote from trump.
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/media-...set-off-alarms
Ok, it wasn't "suspend" the word was "terminate". Oh you got me Ditz. Nice strawman ya fuckin goofball.

I said that Comey said yes, there was classified stuff. I believe if you talk about classified stuff then that is implied to be classified. This is not the same as taking the original documents. I may be wrong about this but I try to stay away from hack news sources. I did come up with Fox for you just so you don't claim it is made up. lol making news up.

You'll never change your mind about anything. Maybe you changed it on Rob Singer when he talked you into his bs. lol. Ok 1 time, I am AGAIN wrong.

Fist of all, Fox News is part of the lamestream media. They are part of the uniparty (democrats and republicans) that run the country. I don't know where you came up with FNC being "the most wildly viewed news source. In primetime they were at 3 million viewers, about 2 million for MSNBC and 600,000 for CNN. The network news channels pull about 15 million. So Fox News ain't jackshit compared to the MSM.

And Tucker did not make FNC go under MSNBC. FNC did that to themselves when they fired Tucker without good cause. They still to this day haven't given a reason for the firing. It pissed their viewership off to the point FNC lost over a 3rd of it's audience.

But cable and network are dying anyway. Digital/streaming is the wave of the future. I've just about totally switched over. I don't watch FNC since Tucker left. And all I watched was his opening monologue anyway. As KJ said, cable news is entertainment. I only want the meat and potatoes. I don't want the filler.

You have to go to digital/streaming to get the real stories, to get to the truth. Cable and network is all propaganda.

It should be clear when I say "Tucker made .." what was meant. We all know Tucker was fired and his departure hurt Fox. What else could I have meant? You are correcting that?

I have to admit I had no idea people following ABC/NBC news that much. I like to watch things on my schedule so I don't even consider them. I learned something here.

Throw in all the big city newspapers, and social media, liberals easily control 98% of the news.

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I am not going to try and guess what Trump's motivations were. He is legally entitled to do what he did, but nonetheless he was indicted by Deep State psychopaths who will do anything to stop him from being elected president.

You seem oddly selective in what you decide to guess about and that which you refuse to guess about,

I don't know what Trump's motivations were. Do you want me to lie and say I do ?

Well you seem to readily impute motives when the politics differ significantly from your own.