This is exactly what he said the state was along with a picture of this state in the article.
"Specifically, he saw that a “Wild” bubble appeared in the first column, second row"
This is exactly what he said the state was along with a picture of this state in the article.
"Specifically, he saw that a “Wild” bubble appeared in the first column, second row"
Having been in well over 100 casinos in about 20 states in the last couple of years I would say Ocean Magic is in about 80% of them. It's one of the games I expoit. The first thing we need to do is give the confederates a clinic in the game. Here's the slotlady playing the game. Yeah, I know. She's boring. But boring is good. You get to see the spins made, not just shots of big wins.
First, take note of the yellow Ocean Magic symbols landing in the screen. Then, bubbles can come flying out and land somwhere or....Stop the video at 0:51. At the bottom of the 3rd column you will see the top of a yellow bubble. That means on the next spin it will rotate up to the 4th row and turn wild. Make another spin it will rotate up to the 3rd row and turn wild. Make another spin it will rotate up to the 2nd row and turn wild. Make another spin it will rotate up to the 1st row and turn wild. Make another spin it will rotate off the screen.
So she makes the spin and the bubble rotates up to the 4th row. She makes another spin and it rotates up to the 3rd row. Stop the video at 1:01. Then you'll see the Ocean Magic symbol has landed on the bubble. Restart then stop the video at 1:04. When the Ocean Magic symbol lands on the bubble it turns all the symbols around it wild. So in this case you have 9 wilds. When that happens you get payed for a bunch of 4 in a rows plus you may connect for 5 in a rows.
As you watch the video take note that the Ocean Magic symbols can appear in a column either one at a time, two at a time, three at a time or four at a time. The OM symbols appear in the 3rd column more than any other column. The 1st column is next for most OM symbols. Then the 4th and 5th columns. The OM symbols appear the least in the 2nd column. And you will never see more than one at a time in that column. They won't land two or more at a time in that column.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
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When the OM lands on a bubble/wild it turns all the symbols around it wild. Next, stop the video at 2:53. You'll see that a bubble/wild has landed in the 4th row of the 1st column. What if an OM had landed on it. All it can do is turn the 3 symbols around it wild. That's not that strong. Stop the video at 3:00. The OM lands on the bubble but it's not much of a pay because all it can do is turn two bubbles in the 1st column wild and 3 in the 2nd column.
If you connect in the 2nd column you get more wilds but it's hard to connect in that column because the OM symbols are rare on that reel and land only one at a time. Forget the 4th and 5th columns. They are so low payback they are not even worth discussing.
What I'm pointing out is the wild/bubbles have huge value in the 3rd column as opposed to the others. There are many more OM symbols on that reel than the other reels and when you connect you make a lot of 4 in a rows and 5 in a rows.
Finding the bubbles/wilds in the 3rd column is the main play in this game. Finding it in the 1st row has no value because it will rotate off the screen on the next spin. Finding it in the 2nd row has value for just one spin. Finding it in the 3rd row has value for two spins. Finding it in the 4th row has value for three spins. And finding the bubble at the bottom before it rotates up to the 4th column has the most value of all because you get four spins at connecting with the OM symbols.
The 3rd column is the powerhouse on this play.
More tonight. I've got things to do today.
Last edited by mickeycrimm; 03-01-2019 at 07:39 AM.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
I have played the game online at lower limits when it was there. Without the bubble boost the starting positions were reel 1 position 2 and reel 5 bubble below line.. With the bubble boost activated reel 1 was the same but the other bubble now started below reel 4. You got the one shot at each denomination which equated to 4 spins. Did the online game have a higher return. If you look at that photo with the bubble on reel three that is not a starting position. It shows a pay in reel one position 2. That not possible in the starting position. As soon as you spin the wild is on the way up.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Advantageplay, we have a confederacy of dunces on this site, Singer, Belly, Blackhole, Mendelson, that are to stupid to learn advantage play. They brag about beating negative expectation games and call us AP's dumb. That's how stupid they are.
But the rest of us have been curious. If the starting positions for the bubbles are Reel 1 Row 2, and Reel 4 Below the 4th Row, then I would guess that not to be a strong play unless you knew that more bubbles were going to come out....and they were going to land in the same positions every time. Is that what was going on?
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Yes, more bubbles can appear but that's normal on Ocean Magic. That's why the game is risky at high denominations. You have to keep playing until the wild bubbles are gone. When bubble boost is activated other wilds are spit out by the shell. It's not free. Your paying for those bubbles with each spin. Those wilds better hook up to create some wins or your stuck a bunch of money. You can find wilds all day long on the 4th&5th line in brick and mortar casinos and vultures won't touch them.
I was advised by multiple different attorneys to speak to the press. We had already gone to gaming. I’ve been an ap quite a while. Fact is with this play it was on the sites since 2017 no one played it. After we hit it they removed the game off of every single platform in existence.
I do not do forum much. Much easier to send me a message on twitter My handle is in the article. Not sure if I am allowedd to say it on here
This week's Gambling With An Edge has some coverage of this situation with Borgata.
I heard, I may be doing the show in a couple of weeks, I have no decided yet as I am friendly with Richard The other host I am not all the fond of
In answer to max pen question the value per person was 90-110k and we were right in line with that. The totals were probably slightly higher then what the article mention but I had misplaced some notes at the time
As a Pennsylvania native, I think I know Gettysburg when I've seen it, if you get my drift.
All that's left is Pickett's Charge. I don't expect Appomattox -- that would require perspective and a lack of narcissism.
Well done, mickeycrimm. Thanks, AdvantagePlay, for the reality verification.
P.S. Anyone interested in the science of disconfirmed expectations should read the classic on cognitive dissonance, "When Prophecy Fails." Leon Festinger is the primary author.
Last edited by redietz; 03-02-2019 at 07:54 AM.
Just going with some stats in the article.
These are just ballpark stats:
First spin worth 126%,
3 subsequent spins worth 140%.
10 players
13 gambling sites
Results fell in line with expectation
Total win was 900K.
Average edge was 36.5%
900K is 36.5% of a total wager of about 2.5 million
Each player ran about a 250K total wager
That would be 25K per site
Each site lost an average of 70K
Each player won an average of 7K per site.
I'm sure that players lost on certain sites. But with such a strong edge I'm also sure they made up for it in their winning sessions on other sites. It was probably something like booked a win on 10 or 11 sites and lost a little money on 2 or 3 sites.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
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