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Thread: The Problem with Blackhole and Coach Belly

  1. #1
    I don't have a problem with coach belly and blackhole asking questions. As I've said many times, I don't know for a fact if kewlJ is a professional blackjack player, a short order cook, or Heide Fleiss's assistant. I don't know if mickey crimm makes more money machine gambling or as a high end escort servicing Montana widows. I must admit, however, that to a civilian such as myself, their narratives makes sense. And they have been vetted by other professional gamblers. One doesn't get on GWAE without expertise.

    My problem with coach belly and blackhole is that they continually give Argentino/Singer a pass. Why is that? I can only guess that it's because he's anti-AP. I suppose it could be because there's a further relationship of some kind. I don't have any other theories.

    Coach belly is known for his examination of details in service of providing (sometimes convoluted) "gotchas." Blackhole is known for advertising his bullshit meter. Yet neither looks very closely at anything Argentino/Singer posts, even when the posts are loaded with potential gotchas and bullshit red alerts.

    I'm going to list some examples just from the last several months. Argentino/Singer posts something really odd or fails to post something, which is equally odd, and coach belly/blackhole don't have anything to say. The examples are all off the top of my head, so correct me if I'm wrong, coach. In each of these examples, I'm going to try to think like a private investigator.

    1) Argentino/Singer posts about his family vacation in Tahoe, where Moses hangs out. He emphasizes that he and his wife never left the rented house at all, except for their daily five-mile walk. What an odd detail. One might almost think the poster is avoiding any Tahoe discussions by admitting he didn't actually see anything beyond four walls. It makes you go "Hmmmmmm, I guess I can't ask him anything about Tahoe this week."

    2) Argentino/Singer claims that Gaming Today offered him a writing gig, but he turned it down. I provide the GT phone number and the email addresses for each of the editors. Now if mickey or kewlJ claimed they had turned down GT, would coach belly or blackhole have checked up on them? Did they check up on Argentino/Singer?

    3) Argentino/Singer claims he won a five-team parlay and a 2K Patriot wager. Does anyone really think he would have passed on the opportunity for a screenshot, modest as the wagers may have been? Coach belly didn't ask for either the parlay or Pats screenshot, and he's into people posting results. Maybe he just missed it, and will ask now, eh? Very strange, both the lack of screenshots and the lack of questions.

    4) Argentino/Singer admits to a default on a "lemon" RV purchase. He admits this for the first time, and the admittance coincides with people pulling up his info from investigative sites. Meanwhile, although he studiously avoids the word "owns," he says he has a $1.5 million RV. No questions or gotchas from blackhole or coach belly. But wait...

    5) Argentino/Singer explains that his $1.5 million RV isn't driven to California or Nevada, ostensibly due to traffic congestion? So when he appears in places where Todd or Mr. Mendelson or I might be, the $1.5 million RV (purchased after defaulting on a cheap RV) will never appear with him. Pretty odd narrative. Quite a bit stranger than counting two tables, I'd say. And still, no questions or gotchas from blackhole and coach belly.

    Blackhole's bullshit meter never blinked. Coach belly asked no questions. Very odd.

    Now, I'm just riffing off the top of my head. It's possible I'm completely off base on everything. A photo of Argentino in Tahoe holding a December newspaper might show up. Or a screenshot of a five-team parlay and a 2K Pats wager. Or photos of a certain someone piloting the same $1.5 million RV during different seasons so as to establish it's not a rental. Or the letter/email from Gaming Today requesting Argentino do some columns. I could be completely, utterly wrong.

    But this post isn't about Argentino/Singer. It's about why certain posters go after some people and not others. Is it intellectual dishonesty and disingenuousness? Why challenge counting two tables and not challenge all of these ridiculously problematic narratives?

    Matthew 7:3-5: "Why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

  2. #2
    Of course I give Rob a pass on his bullshit. With all his bullshit comes a lot of knowledge about AP’ing experience and brings many tough questions to forum AP claims. For the record the bullshit meter on these gambling forums broke a long time ago when the needle broke off and shot into space like a missile.

    Put it to you this way. I hate queers. It turns my stomach when I see it in public. Yet, you could be the biggest cock-sucking queer in the world, but if you’re in my foxhole firing your weapon at the enemy you’re now my buddy.
    Last edited by blackhole; 02-17-2019 at 09:33 AM.

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    Redietz. Don't get me wrong. I've exchanged some PMs with you. I think you're a good guy with a great sense of humor. But why does this bother you so much?

    Rob Singer, Arentino, FREEBIRD. A picture says a thousand words. Watch the video with Alan. The guy is a hoot. I'm surprised he isn't doing stand up comedy somewhere. Maybe he is. No one is ever going to get in his head or probably know for sure whether he is bull shitting or being serious. Just relax and enjoy the ride. HE reminds of Bobby from high school. Remind to tell the (football) story. IF anyone wants to hear it.

    Coach Belly: He reminds me of my old coach. Funny (basketball) story, I can tell later. But he once hit me so hard during a timeout I had welts on my leg going back out on the floor.

    Blackhole: Ahem, He's going to call 'em like he see's them. Reading between the lines. Probably a very hard worker most of his life and selfless by always putting his family first. Am I close?

    Mickeycrimm: How could anyone not like Mick? I can't speak to the animosity between these gents because it was before my time. But if am stranded along the highway? Mick is the guy who is going to stop and offer his assistance. No?

    I thought I could offer a biblical reference as well. But I've learned to enjoy people for who they are - not what they have.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Redietz. Don't get me wrong. I've exchanged some PMs with you. I think you're a good guy with a great sense of humor. But why does this bother you so much?

    Rob Singer, Arentino, FREEBIRD. A picture says a thousand words. Watch the video with Alan. The guy is a hoot. I'm surprised he isn't doing stand up comedy somewhere. Maybe he is. No one is ever going to get in his head or probably know for sure whether he is bull shitting or being serious. Just relax and enjoy the ride. HE reminds of Bobby from high school. Remind to tell the (football) story. IF anyone wants to hear it.

    Coach Belly: He reminds me of my old coach. Funny (basketball) story, I can tell later. But he once hit me so hard during a timeout I had welts on my leg going back out on the floor.

    Blackhole: Ahem, He's going to call 'em like he see's them. Reading between the lines. Probably a very hard worker most of his life and selfless by always putting his family first. Am I close?

    Mickeycrimm: How could anyone not like Mick? I can't speak to the animosity between these gents because it was before my time. But if am stranded along the highway? Mick is the guy who is going to stop and offer his assistance. No?

    I thought I could offer a biblical reference as well. But I've learned to enjoy people for who they are - not what they have.
    Excellent post Moses! People take this stuff much too seriously. I like your approach of accepting everybody for who they are.

    The degree people take this stuff too reminds me of an episode on forensic files or some show like that. Two guys were fighting on the internet over a girl they met on the internet. It escalated to where one killed the other. The kicker is when the guy who killed the other guy found out the girl was a fat toad sitting in her basement (who knows might have been related to Three, lol) spending all her time on the internet. The picture she sent to guys was of some hot blonde bombshell, and it looked nothing like her. She knew how to talk to guys, and how to seduce them, and hid behind the internet. She had invented her own little internet make believe world, and liked two guys fighting over her. It was all kind of fun and stoked her ego, until it led to murder.

    Moral of the story: Stop taking this stuff so seriously and attacking people like this. Life is to short for that. Treat it like Moses does. He’s by far my favorite poster, always has been, even when he was regularly attacking me. It was never viscous and he always had some great one liners. How can’t you not like that?

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Put it to you this way. I hate queers. It turns my stomach when I see it in public..
    I could care less who is pitching and who is catching as long as they are not playing ball in my stadium.

    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Yet, you could be the biggest cock-sucking queer in the world, but if you’re in my foxhole firing your weapon at the enemy you’re now my buddy.
    I suppose that would present somewhat of a paradox wouldn't it? I agree. But if he starts talking mirrors and two tables? I'm poking my head out and screaming to the enemy "WE"RE OVER HERE!"

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    I could care less who is pitching and who is catching as long as they are not playing ball in my stadium.
    Cute Moses. Seriously...kind of humorous. And a fair policy. But then you fly off the handle and your first response is to say "shut the fuck up faggot". That is in-tolerance.

    The other day, you mentioned that you never liked me. Of course I have known that for a long time. For one you have told me that before, but even before that it became quite clear. Despite that, I actually don't have too much of a problem with you, moses. I think...make that know you are a hothead and fly off the handle at a moments notice, verbally attacking and making physical threats. But whatever. You fucking macho, Charles Bronson breeder types. Everything is a pissing match and everything comes down to "Let's meet and I'll kick your ass". Do you realize that is yesterday's mentality and the world is moving on without you.

  7. #7
    And in keeping with the topic of this thread. The problem with blackhole is he is a a fucked up asshole. A nasty, old angry, bitter asshole, about so many things.

    The good news is he is a ghost. He is completely irrelevant, except to last out with his bitter hate tirades. For all intensive purposes he is already gone....he is a ghost.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Why challenge counting two tables and not challenge all of these ridiculously problematic narratives?
    Many other members challenge Singer, that's good enough for me.

    What are "these ridiculously problematic narratives" that you mention above?

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    Excellent post Moses! People take this stuff much too seriously. I like your approach of accepting everybody for who they are.

    The degree people take this stuff too reminds me of an episode on forensic files or some show like that. Two guys were fighting on the internet over a girl they met on the internet. It escalated to where one killed the other. The kicker is when the guy who killed the other guy found out the girl was a fat toad sitting in her basement (who knows might have been related to Three, lol) spending all her time on the internet. The picture she sent to guys was of some hot blonde bombshell, and it looked nothing like her. She knew how to talk to guys, and how to seduce them, and hid behind the internet. She had invented her own little internet make believe world, and liked two guys fighting over her. It was all kind of fun and stoked her ego, until it led to murder.

    Moral of the story: Stop taking this stuff so seriously and attacking people like this. Life is to short for that. Treat it like Moses does. He’s by far my favorite poster, always has been, even when he was regularly attacking me. It was never viscous and he always had some great one liners. How can’t you not like that?
    I think I remember that show. I also remember the time we were quizzing that one guy who claimed to win $300k his first year red chipping. Can you imagine Blackhole on that thread? He'd make Linda Blair seem like Mary Poppins.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Cute Moses. Seriously...kind of humorous. And a fair policy. But then you fly off the handle and your first response is to say "shut the fuck up faggot". That is in-tolerance.
    I believe what I ask was “don't you ever shut up”? You run to Dan and tell him he has a shit hole forum. Why? Because KJ, wants to talk about KJ, talk about KJ, talk about KAAAAJAAAA. Like there is some pathetic newbie out there who is hanging on every word.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    The other day, you mentioned that you never liked me.
    I don't. Because it's not because you're queer. It's because you go on these rampages trying to save the newbie and impress your peers. In reality, you make it difficult for all of us. It's like a QB poking his head out of the huddle and saying hey Dick! Ya, you Dick Butkus. You're an ass hole and I'm sending Moses right up the middle on this play. I'm thinking “WTF did you do that for”?
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Of course I have known that for a long time. For one you have told me that before, but even before that it became quite clear. Despite that, I actually don't have too much of a problem with you, moses. I think...make that know you are a hothead and fly off the handle at a moments notice, verbally attacking and making physical threats. But whatever. You fucking macho, Charles Bronson breeder types. Everything is a pissing match and everything comes down to "Let's meet and I'll kick your ass". Do you realize that is yesterday's mentality and the world is moving on without you.
    Here is the real world and today's mentality for us that drive cars, go to casinos, date women, go to movies, buy groceries, etc etc. My first day here. I go to church. Then to a casino where I get Free Hod Dog and drink coupons to watch ballgames. I'm standing in the line and know only one person in the entire city. This guy sitting at his table says, “don't push up on me man.” Since I spent like the last 3 decades working, I'd never heard that term. So I ignored him. He repeats. I'm kind of like. Huh? Ignore again.

    Now he stands up and gets in my face and repeats again, only very loudly. Now, at least we are both on the same page. Obviously, I'm not moving. So we square off. Now mind is going really fast. I think, went to church, came down for lunch, and to watch a ball game. I've been here less than 5 minutes and I'm about to fight a guy I've never met and I don't even know why.

    My friend walks in, comes running over to get in between and tells me the guy is hungry. So I hand him one of my coupons. He butts in line ahead of me and orders. Later, after all had calmed down, I ask him what the term, “push up on me” meant. He said, “that is what you say in the prison food line if someone is standing too close.” Then he said “I saw you get all those coupons from the sportsbook manager. I ask “why didn't you just ask me for one”? He replied, “I'd already done that 3 times and they told me to fuck off.”

    Now I could tell of at least a dozen more stories where I was minding my own business and found myself in a world of shit. It happens fast and without much notice. So Charley B mentality comes in handy. The point I hope to convey to others is don't go running your mouth in a casino the way KJ does on a forum. Relax, trouble will find you soon enough.
    Last edited by Moses; 02-18-2019 at 08:43 AM.

  11. #11
    This thread is odd until you see who started it.

    Poor redietz seems besides himself, and all because EVERYBODY but coach and blackhole aren't acting like idiots when it comes to me. sniffle sniffle

    It was funny watching you groan about no pictures when you've seen me put up a dozens of big jackpots over the years, and at the same time you've never put up even one to back up your "40 years' history" of claims.

    Then one has to wonder--again, until we realize that it's you--why you care about what I do on family vacations! Is it because you're jealous since you have no family? Are you feeling incomplete having no children? And where have you been when I was posting from the Tahoe area while we spent two summers up there? Maybe you saw the pictures I posted of us hiking Yosemite and cruising on Lake Tahoe?

    Just how weird are you red? There's too much me in your head and you know & hate it.

    I guess I win/you lose.

  12. #12
    Rob Singer wrote:

    "Is it because you're jealous since you have no family? Are you feeling incomplete having no children?"

    Rob, Why do you like to play dirty? Do you think only married couples with children can be happy?

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Rob Singer wrote:

    "Is it because you're jealous since you have no family? Are you feeling incomplete having no children?"

    Rob, Why do you like to play dirty? Do you think only married couples with children can be happy?
    It's a proven fact that a happy marriage with children contributes to an overall more successful, meaningful and fulfilled life. That said, I believe someone lime Mickey is sort of happy with no one, only because he doesn't know any better. He's completely oblivious to what a close-knit family really means.

    Redietz deserves whatever dirt comes his way. He has no other purpose here besides showing what a sour life he leads. And he thinks going for daily walks at Lake Tahoe means you have to take pictures and go sightseeing, even though I've been there a hundred times. What an idiot.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    I believe what I ask was “don't you ever shut up”? You run to Dan and tell him he has a shit hole forum. Why? Because KJ, wants to talk about KJ, talk about KJ, talk about KAAAAJAAAA. Like there is some pathetic newbie out there who is hanging on every word.
    I don't. Because it's not because you're queer. It's because you go on these rampages trying to save the newbie and impress your peers. In reality, you make it difficult for all of us. It's like a QB poking his head out of the huddle and saying hey Dick! Ya, you Dick Butkus. You're an ass hole and I'm sending Moses right up the middle on this play. I'm thinking “WTF did you do that for”?
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Of course I have known that for a long time. For one you have told me that before, but even before that it became quite clear. Despite that, I actually don't have too much of a problem with you, moses. I think...make that know you are a hothead and fly off the handle at a moments notice, verbally attacking and making physical threats. But whatever. You fucking macho, Charles Bronson breeder types. Everything is a pissing match and everything comes down to "Let's meet and I'll kick your ass". Do you realize that is yesterday's mentality and the world is moving on without you.
    Here is the real world and today's mentality for us that drive cars, go to casinos, date women, go to movies, buy groceries, etc etc. My first day here. I go to church. Then to a casino where I get Free Hod Dog and drink coupons to watch ballgames. I'm standing in the line and know only one person in the entire city. This guy sitting at his table says, “don't push up on me man.” Since I spent like the last 3 decades working, I'd never heard that term. So I ignored him. He repeats. I'm kind of like. Huh? Ignore again.

    Now he stands up and gets in my face and repeats again, only very loudly. Now, at least we are both on the same page. Obviously, I'm not moving. So we square off. Now mind is going really fast. I think, went to church, came down for lunch, and to watch a ball game. I've been here less than 5 minutes and I'm about to fight a guy I've never met and I don't even know why.

    My friend walks in, comes running over to get in between and tells me the guy is hungry. So I hand him one of my coupons. He butts in line ahead of me and orders. Later, after all had calmed down, I ask him what the term, “push up on me” meant. He said, “that is what you say in the prison food line if someone is standing too close.” Then he said “I saw you get all those coupons from the sportsbook manager. I ask “why didn't you just ask me for one”? He replied, “I'd already done that 3 times and they told me to fuck off.”

    Now I could tell of at least a dozen more stories where I was minding my own business and found myself in a world of shit. It happens fast and without much notice. So Charley B mentality comes in handy. The point I hope to convey to others is don't go running your mouth in a casino the way KJ does on a forum. Relax, trouble will find you soon enough.
    I'm pretty sure the issue is with you. I hardly ever have any issues in a casino with anyone. However, you seem to have them on a regular basis. Probably a case of MDS.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I'm pretty sure the issue is with you. I hardly ever have any issues in a casino with anyone. However, you seem to have them on a regular basis. Probably a case of MDS.
    You little softies really like that rolleyes thing, don't you. Anyway, that was about 8 years ago and I admit I was naïve to my surroundings back then. There was a cocktail waitress and I who were divorce buddies. Her term. Not mine. But I wasn't feeling well so I went up to the end of the bar near the s-book to get her attention for a hot totty for my voice. I happen to be standing next to this scantly dressed young girl and didn't notice her much. I was wearing a cotton white shirt with green leaves on it.

    The guy on the other side of her asks, "so who is this Don Johnson mother fucker." Rather than make a scene, I got my drink, walked back to the table and ask my friend what I misread this time. He said, "for one thing it's your shirt. For another, she is a hooker and he is her john, and they are negotiating. He thought you were moving in."

  16. #16
    I prefer not to hide behind a pair of gay ass sunglasses.

  17. #17
    Okay. You prefer to be in front. Whatever floats your boat.

  18. #18
    Rob Singer wrote:

    "It's a proven fact that a happy marriage with children contributes to an overall more successful, meaningful and fulfilled life. That said, I believe someone lime Mickey is sort of happy with no one, only because he doesn't know any better. He's completely oblivious to what a close-knit family really means."

    "BTW, my entire family knows where I stand on queers. Like most people, they support it."

    "And I can be a huge fan of these guys with or without any of the idiotic political bs some of them ignorantly spew (waaa....waaa....I'm not goin' to the White House etc. among other moronic nonsense). Cora badmouthing the administration's efforts after the hurricane was totally stupid, in the face of the massive amount of work and money our great people did for the greasers down there. In a few years when Brady & Belichick are gone I'll have no love loss and will never watch another Negro Football League game again unless they straighten out their act."

    Rob, besides you, the family does not care for Queers, possibly Puerto Ricans, and Blacks like you, who else?

    No wonder you have such a close knit family, could they all possibly come from the same genes? Better said, were you and your better half brother and sister?
    Last edited by BoSox; 02-18-2019 at 03:51 PM.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Rob Singer wrote:

    "It's a proven fact that a happy marriage with children contributes to an overall more successful, meaningful and fulfilled life. That said, I believe someone lime Mickey is sort of happy with no one, only because he doesn't know any better. He's completely oblivious to what a close-knit family really means."

    "BTW, my entire family knows where I stand on queers. Like most people, they support it."

    "And I can be a huge fan of these guys with or without any of the idiotic political bs some of them ignorantly spew (waaa....waaa....I'm not goin' to the White House etc. among other moronic nonsense). Cora badmouthing the administration's efforts after the hurricane was totally stupid, in the face of the massive amount of work and money our great people did for the greasers down there. In a few years when Brady & Belichick are gone I'll have no love loss and will never watch another Negro Football League game again unless they straighten out their act."

    Rob, besides you, the family does not care for Queers, possibly Puerto Ricans, and Blacks like you, who else?

    No wonder you have such a close knit family, could they all possibly come from the same genes? Better said, were you and your better half brother and sister?
    My children lean towards my and my wife's positions, but I expect my grandchildren to possibly be somewhat more T-O-L-E-R-A-N-T as the snowflakes say. We're common sense old school around here. We have no use for brainless gay marriage or those sickening lithpy-voiced queers with their ridiculous "designer delivery". I never get the point as to why some people choose to be so weird.

    However, my best friend is black and we're having them over for dinner Sat. night. My beef is with those who feel entitled for this and that who don't want to work, or who go around being thugs and for some crazy reason idolize that nonsense called rap or stupidly take a knee for the national anthem. And while there are some decent black football players, WHY is the league so dominated by them? Then we have black activists crying "racism" when black coaches get fired and white ones replace them. You don't see white people crying wolf over the number of black players. It's all due to feelings of entitlement. That hurts our country.

  20. #20
    Rob just for the record I consider myself a strong conservative and I am not afraid to express my points of view. Many of my political opinions can be seen "last posted" about three years ago in the archives of Wong's paid site.

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