Alan learning card counting?

[kewlJ]

Rob, Kewlj is not jumping up and diving into a second table, he swings from ropes into seats like the legendary Tarzan did in the jungle.

Why would YOU, an experienced counter, make that comment? It just plays into the narrative that these guys challenging me are making that card counting and tracking a second table requires super ability and you know that is not true.

BoSox, if you don't appreciate the way I post (and you have made that quite clear) and you hold that against me to the point that you dislike me (which appears to be the case), I would still expect you to be reasonable. Not play into untrue narratives for the purpose of getting little digs in. In otherwords, not cross over the line to troll land just because you have decided you don't care for me.

[The Boz]

It’s kind of funny Alan (actually not Alan) said they were done with this site and asked us to leave him alone. Yet it starts something like this, knowing it will be discussed here. Reminds me of my favorite Alan public interview.

https://labusinessjournal.com/news/2...20/news-break/

“What makes it special?

We were married at a craps table at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. With a rabbi.

How did you select the venue?

I play video poker and I play craps, and so does my wife, Shelley. After my second divorce, I didn’t have much money, but we got engaged and I kept telling her, “I’m putting money away for a ring.” One day we were at Caesars and I got a royal flush in video poker. I won a lot of money. I told her, “The ring is funded.”

Nothing like putting money away while playing VP!

[kewlJ]

It’s kind of funny Alan (actually not Alan) said they were done with this site and asked us to leave him alone. Yet it starts something like this, knowing it will be discussed here. Reminds me of my favorite Alan public interview.

https://labusinessjournal.com/news/2...20/news-break/

“What makes it special?

We were married at a craps table at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. With a rabbi.

How did you select the venue?

I play video poker and I play craps, and so does my wife, Shelley. After my second divorce, I didn’t have much money, but we got engaged and I kept telling her, “I’m putting money away for a ring.” One day we were at Caesars and I got a royal flush in video poker. I won a lot of money. I told her, “The ring is funded.”

Nothing like putting money away while playing VP!

I clicked the link and started to read some of the interview. I didn't get far. I am just not very interested in Alan's "story". I don't view his as any kind of celebrity, I only know him from the gambling forums, and boy do I know him from the forums.

The antidotes that you reposted from the interview, about the funding of the wedding ring, I know Alan thinks that is all cute and cements his legacy as a gambling enthusiast, but it really is all about gambling addiction. Imagine, you supposedly love someone enough that you want to marry them and supposedly spend the rest of your life with them and you can't manage to stop gambling long enough to put some money away for a ring. It is going to have to wait until you have a winning day or winning streak. I am sorry that is not cute that is sickness.

The wedding itself at the craps table I have less of a problem with. Baseball enthusiasts, often get married at baseball parks, that kind of thing. I myself got married in a typical Las vegas wedding by Elvis. (the real Elvis I think ). I also had a small reception at a casino restuarant, comped by the casino. It was only about 20 people. I am an advatage player, it is how I make a living and it IS my life, and I love Las vegas, I bleed neon, and my partner followed me to Las vegas, to share in that life, so I wanted to incorporate this into my wedding. So I have no problem with that kind of concept, the only thing I would differentiate is Alan's gambling habits are an addiction, even to the point that family and financial problems spilled out into this forum in front of us. And there likely is a lot more from that addiction that has ruined or effected Alan's life in a negative way that we aren't aware of. I mean didn't he go through a pretty good life savings?

I am not trying to be nasty to Alan, but should that kind of thing be incorporated into a wedding, a celebration of begining a life with someone? Do drug addicts celebrate their addiction by getting married at a crack house? Harsh, but that type of thing.

Anyway, went deeper than intended and really, I have no ill will towards Alan and really do wish him the best. We know he is gambling but hopefully under control to the point that he can find some enjoyment without it controlling his life and finaces.

[The Boz]

Hey, a Royal is an approx 41,000-1 to shot. Just shows how much he cared. While I don’t know how it worked out, I’m guessing she realized how special she was to him and they lived happily ever after.

[kewlJ]

Hey, a Royal is an approx 41,000-1 to shot. Just shows how much he cared. While I don’t know how it worked out, I’m guessing she realized how special she was to him and they lived happily ever after.

Very good Boz!

On the other hand, marriage is a bit of a gamble. maybe that is what Alan was trying to signify.

[kewlJ]

So I don't want to beat a dead horse, but the way this Alan learning card counting thing turned out, is just anpother example of Alan's dishonesty and frankly....goofiness.

He posted a thread "Losing" about a card counter who lost $6000 while playing +EV, the day after I shared that I had lost $6000 while playing +EV.

He posted the Alan card counting thread and the questions pertaining to accurate count (at a second table), the day after the same discussion here.

Did he NOT know that people would see that?

So when caugh and confronted, he denies it and says he has a legitimate interest in card counting and becomeing a dealer, when no one that knows anything about Alan beleives either. Just classic Alan....for what that is worth.

Enough about Alan. Time to make the donutes. (remeber those commercials)

[Ozzy]

It’s kind of funny Alan (actually not Alan) said they were done with this site and asked us to leave him alone. Yet it starts something like this, knowing it will be discussed here. Reminds me of my favorite Alan public interview.

https://labusinessjournal.com/news/2...20/news-break/

“What makes it special?

We were married at a craps table at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. With a rabbi.

How did you select the venue?

I play video poker and I play craps, and so does my wife, Shelley. After my second divorce, I didn’t have much money, but we got engaged and I kept telling her, “I’m putting money away for a ring.” One day we were at Caesars and I got a royal flush in video poker. I won a lot of money. I told her, “The ring is funded.”

Nothing like putting money away while playing VP!

Interesting interview with Alan the legend. We can poke fun and raz him about MANY things, but the guy seemed to have an interesting life overall, minus the last 5 years or so. He appears to have hit a brick wall. Fun while it lasted.

[BoSox]

It’s kind of funny Alan (actually not Alan) said they were done with this site and asked us to leave him alone. Yet it starts something like this, knowing it will be discussed here. Reminds me of my favorite Alan public interview.

https://labusinessjournal.com/news/2...20/news-break/

“What makes it special?

We were married at a craps table at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. With a rabbi.

How did you select the venue?

I play video poker and I play craps, and so does my wife, Shelley. After my second divorce, I didn’t have much money, but we got engaged and I kept telling her, “I’m putting money away for a ring.” One day we were at Caesars and I got a royal flush in video poker. I won a lot of money. I told her, “The ring is funded.”

Nothing like putting money away while playing VP!

I clicked the link and started to read some of the interview. I didn't get far. I am just not very interested in Alan's "story". I don't view his as any kind of celebrity, I only know him from the gambling forums, and boy do I know him from the forums.

The antidotes that you reposted from the interview, about the funding of the wedding ring, I know Alan thinks that is all cute and cements his legacy as a gambling enthusiast, but it really is all about gambling addiction. Imagine, you supposedly love someone enough that you want to marry them and supposedly spend the rest of your life with them and you can't manage to stop gambling long enough to put some money away for a ring. It is going to have to wait until you have a winning day or winning streak. I am sorry that is not cute that is sickness.

The wedding itself at the craps table I have less of a problem with. Baseball enthusiasts, often get married at baseball parks, that kind of thing. I myself got married in a typical Las vegas wedding by Elvis. (the real Elvis I think ). I also had a small reception at a casino restuarant, comped by the casino. It was only about 20 people. I am an advatage player, it is how I make a living and it IS my life, and I love Las vegas, I bleed neon, and my partner followed me to Las vegas, to share in that life, so I wanted to incorporate this into my wedding. So I have no problem with that kind of concept, the only thing I would differentiate is Alan's gambling habits are an addiction, even to the point that family and financial problems spilled out into this forum in front of us. And there likely is a lot more from that addiction that has ruined or effected Alan's life in a negative way that we aren't aware of. I mean didn't he go through a pretty good life savings?

I am not trying to be nasty to Alan, but should that kind of thing be incorporated into a wedding, a celebration of begining a life with someone? Do drug addicts celebrate their addiction by getting married at a crack house? Harsh, but that type of thing.

Anyway, went deeper than intended and really, I have no ill will towards Alan and really do wish him the best. We know he is gambling but hopefully under control to the point that he can find some enjoyment without it controlling his life and finaces.

Shame on you KJ!
You should be personally suspended for getting personnel and insulting Alan like that. No wonder so many people despise you.

[mickeycrimm]

There's no chance Alan will learn blackjack on a professional level. When it comes gambling strategy he's even stupider than Blackhoser.

[kewlJ]

Shame on you KJ!
You should be personally suspended for getting personnel and insulting Alan like that. No wonder so many people despise you.

BoSox full on in troll mode now.

Fuck you, you geriatric pussy. Are you that senile that you have forgotten what this forum is?

[BoSox]

Rob, Kewlj is not jumping up and diving into a second table, he swings from ropes into seats like the legendary Tarzan did in the jungle.

Why would YOU, an experienced counter, make that comment? It just plays into the narrative that these guys challenging me are making that card counting and tracking a second table requires super ability and you know that is not true.

BoSox, if you don't appreciate the way I post (and you have made that quite clear) and you hold that against me to the point that you dislike me (which appears to be the case), I would still expect you to be reasonable. Not play into untrue narratives for the purpose of getting little digs in. In otherwords, not cross over the line to troll land just because you have decided you don't care for me.

The rules of the game regarding the allowance of Mid Shoe Entry in Los Vegas are different from the places where I play. All the games in the casinos I play at only have Mid Shoe entry games for the lower stakes games $25 and $15. Rarely do I play those games, I play at No MSE games at higher levels. The best I can do is spot a table with the dealer shuffling and leave my own table. I am surprised that you can get this rule in Vegas, or do you often play the low-end tables where the rule is more likely allowed?

[kewlJ]

The rules of the game regarding the allowance of Mid Shoe Entry in Los Vegas are different from the places where I play. All the games in the casinos I play at only have Mid Shoe entry games for the lower stakes games $25 and $15. Rarely do I play those games, I play at No MSE games at higher levels. The best I can do is spot a table with the dealer shuffling and leave my own table. I am surprised that you can get this rule in Vegas, or do you often play the low-end tables where the rule is more likely allowed?

NMSE is not as prevalent in Las Vegas. I see it at a few places but not many at the $25 tables that I mostly play. THAT is one of several things different than the east coast, that I noticed when I moved here. Rather than NMSE, several places have a rule that if you enter mid shoe, you can only bet table minimum. That kind of situation obviously wouldn't be one that I could track a second shoe, although the games I am thinking of that restrict to table minium are mostly double deck games anyway and that is not the games I employ this tracking a second table technique at. This is a shoe technique. One place I play has a rule that if you enter mid shoe you are restricted to flat betting your initial bet. That is funny, because...well I hope everyone can figure out why.

[kewlJ]

Now Bosox, if you want to engage in respectful dialogue like above great. Even if you are legitimately questioning something I do. But if you are just going to constantly make snide remarks and engage in gottch ya moments like smelly belly does, I am going to treat you like a troll. I am asking you politely and publicly to just knock it off. You have expressed that you don't appreciate that I share monetary amounts as part of my sharing my experiences, now just let it go. We don't need additional trolling. Don't we have enough already.

[BoSox]

Shame on you KJ!
You should be personally suspended for getting personnel and insulting Alan like that. No wonder so many people despise you.

BoSox full on in troll mode now.

Fuck you, you geriatric pussy. Are you that senile that you have forgotten what this forum is?

There was a very meaningful post over at WOV today from MDawg. Meaningful in the sense that it would have been better if it had originated here first. VCT after all has one member who quit and returned again and again at least 7 times now. Who could that be? Here is the post:

"August 5th, 2021 at 9:57:40 AMpermalink
As far as any member (including myself) leaving, threatening to leave, or expressing dissatisfaction with the way things are, the advice has always been.

Quote: EvenBob
Like the Wiz always says when people threaten to leave, don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: SOOPOO
And as the Wizard has said many times, if you don't like it don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: teddys
I feel confident I speak for the majority here when I say don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: boz
I won't let the door hit me on the way out



Quote: mrjjj
lol Dont let the door hit ya in the a** on the way out. Ken



Quote: Zuga

But Ill say this, If you really feel this way then don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: rsactuary
If you don't like the service, don't let the door hit your ungrateful butt on the way out.

I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people."

[MaxPen]

Shame on you KJ!
You should be personally suspended for getting personnel and insulting Alan like that. No wonder so many people despise you.

BoSox full on in troll mode now.

Fuck you, you geriatric pussy. Are you that senile that you have forgotten what this forum is?

There was a very meaningful post over at WOV today from MDawg. Meaningful in the sense that it would have been better if it had originated here first. VCT after all has one member who quit and returned again and again at least 7 times now. Who could that be? Here is the post:

"August 5th, 2021 at 9:57:40 AMpermalink
As far as any member (including myself) leaving, threatening to leave, or expressing dissatisfaction with the way things are, the advice has always been.

Quote: EvenBob
Like the Wiz always says when people threaten to leave, don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: SOOPOO
And as the Wizard has said many times, if you don't like it don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: teddys
I feel confident I speak for the majority here when I say don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: boz
I won't let the door hit me on the way out



Quote: mrjjj
lol Dont let the door hit ya in the a** on the way out. Ken



Quote: Zuga

But Ill say this, If you really feel this way then don't let the door hit you on the way out.



Quote: rsactuary
If you don't like the service, don't let the door hit your ungrateful butt on the way out.

I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people."

Obsessed much???

[MisterV]

Hey, a Royal is an approx 41,000-1 to shot. Just shows how much he cared. While I don’t know how it worked out, I’m guessing she realized how special she was to him and they lived happily ever after.

I'm confused.

Is this the one he married at Caesars or the later one that quickly sobered up after realizing who she had in fact married and then IIRC had some goons come over to give alan the bum's rush en rotute to annulment?

[Rob.Singer]

Hey, a Royal is an approx 41,000-1 to shot. Just shows how much he cared. While I don’t know how it worked out, I’m guessing she realized how special she was to him and they lived happily ever after.

Very good Boz!

On the other hand, marriage is a bit of a gamble. maybe that is what Alan was trying to signify.

Marriage is NOT "a bit of a gamble". Not if you go into it for the right reasons, and not if your feelings and intentions are sincere. What Alan did by getting married at a craps table was by all accounts disrespectful to his wife, himself, and to anyone who may have genuinely cared for him at the time.

No boz, that debacle ended as per usual--in divorce. When you don't take things seriously that should be taken seriously, devastation doesn't take long in making its appearance.

[MisterV]

Marriage is NOT "a bit of a gamble". Not if you go into it for the right reasons, and not if your feelings and intentions are sincere.

Sorry, marriage, like life, is ALWAYS a gamble.

Except for divorce lawyers; the bar prohibits contingent fees in divorce cases, so divorce lawyers charge at their hourly billable rate, plus mail, copy and support staff charges: ka-ching!

[Dan Druff]

Let's try to avoid discussing Alan here. I'd really like this forum to move on from him.

[MaxPen]

Let's try to avoid discussing Alan here. I'd really like this forum to move on from him.

Then why do you let him pretend he is Andrew? Plus KewlJ says Alan is discussing stuff from here at the WoV. Are members supposed supposed to refer to him as Andrew?