Finding Grandpa's Newell

[BoSox]

Have you missed everything Mickey has posted on this subject? Or don’t you think he is an AP? How about Bosox? Don’t think he is an AP either?

When you want to bitch about AP’s, at least be honest with the facts staring you in the face.

There is really no sense in arguing with that guy, blackhole. He is anti-AP, pure and simple and he sees a chance to attack one AP, Maxpen here and divide AP's because mickey and BoSox have a different opinion about Singer.

Now as for facts staring you in the face: Two days ago, I made a post to BoSox promising to let my part of the Singer argument go. Somebody said that I keep making the same argument over and over again and they are right I do.

And then low and behold, someone directed me to some new information yesterday that blows the Singer claim out of the water. But I am going to honor my word to BoSox and sit on it, unless and until Singer returns. It's a biggie though. I can't believe I missed it.

Proving that Singer's claims are not true is not a big deal at all. Whatever the story is or if the story is ever revealed I do not think that there will be two members on the site that will even blink an eye. The real question is why did he do it in the first place? A few people got obsessed and so upset with his stories that the angrier they became, turned into more of an encouragement and motivating factor for him to continue on and on. KJ you made a good post that I will include below which I think is relevant is the fact that Singer has a narcissistic personality disorder. Now I am asking a question that I do not have the answer to. People, who have this mental health illness are possibly not fully in control and rational of all their actions depending on the degree of the illness?

Mickeycrimm said bout Rob Singer and I quote "He can't help himself. He has narcissistic personality disorder. He has to trash people. It's his lifeblood."

That is probably the single 'truest' statement mickeycrimm has ever made. And who better would know, mickey had been dealing with it for decades.

The narcissistic personality disorder trait of compulsive and pathological lying.... This narcissistic personality disorder trait can be used as projection, which means falsely accusing others of the narcissist’s crimes.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder and the severity of symptoms vary. People with the disorder can:

Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.

This isn't even a close call. Every single one of these symptoms has been displayed by Singer.

Insist on having the best of everything (or pretending to) like a Newell RV, when he actually has a small 22k Winnebago pull behind.

Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, YA THINK???

even Take advantage of others to get what they want describes to a tee, the Singer-Alan relationship and later the relationship Singer tried for and succeeded to some degree with mickeycrimm and also tried for, but was unsuccessful with Axelwolf.

Anyone defending any part of the 20 years of Rob Singer or even feeling bad for him (BoSox) is a moron. I don't know what if anything is going to occur, but this guy deserves any consequences that might be headed his way.

[theywontpayontuesday]

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[monet]

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[blackhole]

Have you missed everything Mickey has posted on this subject? Or don’t you think he is an AP? How about Bosox? Don’t think he is an AP either?

When you want to bitch about AP’s, at least be honest with the facts staring you in the face.

Regardless of what I posted, wouldn’t it be obvious to any member reading this thread that Mickey and Bosox who are both AP’s have different opinions on this subject?

Did you really find it necessary to remind everyone of that? Or were your comments just another of your “look at me” clever back door attacks without much thought?

Speaking of being honest, you had a lot of un-answered questions I asked you about just before you vanished. I guess you were busy with the doxing and had no time for me. I never thought at all about you since you vanished and forgot everything I was asking about. If you want, I could look up all the subjects that led to my curiosity.

[blackhole]

There is really no sense in arguing with that guy, blackhole. He is anti-AP, pure and simple and he sees a chance to attack one AP, Maxpen here and divide AP's because mickey and BoSox have a different opinion about Singer.

Now as for facts staring you in the face: Two days ago, I made a post to BoSox promising to let my part of the Singer argument go. Somebody said that I keep making the same argument over and over again and they are right I do.


And then low and behold, someone directed me to some new information yesterday that blows the Singer claim out of the water. But I am going to honor my word to BoSox and sit on it, unless and until Singer returns. It's a biggie though. I can't believe I missed it.

First off cum breath, everyone here knows I’m not anti-AP. That’s a title you love using against me with the hopes of it dismissing all the truths I point out about you and others. Just another one of your forum tactics.

Attack MaxPrick? LOL The guy is full of shit, much like you telling stories and lies obviously with your same needs of attracting attention. You fake your own death, and he fakes this whole Rob bullshit story for at least to this point 50 forum pages of attention. You’re one dumb fuck that fell hook line and sinker for his bullshit story with the hopes of hurting a member you dislike.

For the record that person that pointed out you are telling your Singer story ad nauseum was me.

Now you have new information about Singer. But your loyalty to BoSox is preventing you from exposing it. Let me guess, MaxPrick let you in on the secret.

Do you fucking morons even think a little before you start typing? “It’s a biggie” you say. Maybe you could hold out for another 50 forum pages keeping us in suspense.

Why don’t you get together with other forum AP’s and pretend you sent that information to them so all of you could swear you have it.

YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!

[BoSox]

Grandpa Newell has not apologized for his lies on this forum and others. He has disappeared from posting though. Which he should as it is his only chance for salvation without making an apology.

As long as Grandpa Newell remains silent. Should he be given a pass from having to pay for his sins?

I am inclined to release a shit storm to rain down upon him. Causing him many problems I am sure. Really, I have no pity for the lying sack of shit. But I would value the opinion of others as to whether or not he should get a pass before the games commence.

MaxPen, a little revue is in order considering 22 pages have passed since you wrote the above quote. Realize it or not your referral about "before the games commence" upcoming games is no longer upcoming as we already are in the mid-season. The conflict centers mainly between you and Singer as we will leave it at that for now.

Singer supposedly should be in South Dakota by now. Who cares! However, he is being threatened with "plenty of your posts to back that up" possible exposure and facing a lot of real trouble ahead. Whether or not this bothers Singer is an entirely different story.

Now let's examine MaxPen:

Were you really concerned about the opinion of others before the games commenced? Fuck no, they were only games to you and you already knew ahead of time that you had some strong support from people that were previously harmed by Singer whose objective was justice. I think you were surprised that a few people opposed how you were handling everything, which you found very amusing but quickly dismissed all of it. Do you really want to back out now considering that people are calling you a liar and a coward. Christ you originally put up Valentines' day as a first warning.

What do you have to lose as it is already way too late? You already have an AP who will trust you with his money and keys to his house. You also have people who strongly feel that Singer deserves what he gets. Although, you will never get any kind of satisfaction from those from the other side objectors. Why? They did not take Singer's stories seriously and were never affected at all, plus no one likes threats made. Those same people including myself will not be surprised by any outcome, and neither will the silent majority. Personally, I think that you picked the wrong fight as it is a no-win proposition.

[MaxPen]

Grandpa Newell has not apologized for his lies on this forum and others. He has disappeared from posting though. Which he should as it is his only chance for salvation without making an apology.

As long as Grandpa Newell remains silent. Should he be given a pass from having to pay for his sins?

I am inclined to release a shit storm to rain down upon him. Causing him many problems I am sure. Really, I have no pity for the lying sack of shit. But I would value the opinion of others as to whether or not he should get a pass before the games commence.

MaxPen, a little revue is in order considering 22 pages have passed since you wrote the above quote. Realize it or not your referral about "before the games commence" upcoming games is no longer upcoming as we already are in the mid-season. The conflict centers mainly between you and Singer as we will leave it at that for now.

Singer supposedly should be in South Dakota by now. Who cares! However, he is being threatened with "plenty of your posts to back that up" possible exposure and facing a lot of real trouble ahead. Whether or not this bothers Singer is an entirely different story.

Now let's examine MaxPen:

Were you really concerned about the opinion of others before the games commenced? Fuck no, they were only games to you and you already knew ahead of time that you had some strong support from people that were previously harmed by Singer whose objective was justice. I think you were surprised that a few people opposed how you were handling everything, which you found very amusing but quickly dismissed all of it. Do you really want to back out now considering that people are calling you a liar and a coward. Christ you originally put up Valentines' day as a first warning.

What do you have to lose as it is already way too late? You already have an AP who will trust you with his money and keys to his house. You also have people who strongly feel that Singer deserves what he gets. Although, you will never get any kind of satisfaction from those from the other side objectors. Why? They did not take Singer's stories seriously and were never affected at all, plus no one likes threats made. Those same people including myself will not be surprised by any outcome, and neither will the silent majority. Personally, I think that you picked the wrong fight as it is a no-win proposition.

[MDawg]

RS voted yes on the poll about whether MDawg has won at the casinos. Which MDawg has won consistently, it's the truth. Hence, RS is a good ol' boy, no matter what else.

[kewlJ]

RS voted yes on the poll about whether MDawg has won at the casinos. Which MDawg has won consistently, it's the truth. Hence, RS is a good ol' boy, no matter what else.

RS_ is NOT Rob Singer.

[kewlJ]

They did not take Singer's stories seriously and were never affected at all, plus no one likes threats made. Those same people including myself will not be surprised by any outcome, and neither will the silent majority. Personally, I think that you picked the wrong fight as it is a no-win proposition.

BoSox, in your defense of Singer, you state that people didn't believe Singers stories. I disagree. On this forum slingshot readily admits he plays and believes in Singer's progressive wagering system. Luckily for him Slingshot is smart enough not to lose too much money doing so. Dan Druff tells us this site has many lurkers that do not post. Only the forum admin would know that. How many of them have been hurt. What about all the other forums Singer has preached his phony progressive system on, including WoV that had hundreds of members. How many were hurt at these other forums?

Then there is the fact that he wrote a book about this strategy. Why I am guessing sales weren't through the roof, how many were hurt by that. Then beginning a month after the book was published, he wrote a column for Gaming today for 8 years, so he could promote that book and progression system. And while he wrote the column for free, Gaming Today has some readership, so how many were hurt by these phony claims from that? And finally, Singer claims to have privately taught his "system" to a number of people. If he did, you can bet it wasn't for free. They paid him to tech a system that they then lost money on.

Decades, this has gone on. So why any AP or math guy would feel anything but contempt for this guy is beyond me. I guess some of you find the whole thing amusing. I don't. The guy has been misleading people throughout the gaming community on decades via multiple platforms.

[Ozzy]

I call a spade a spade, Singer was possibly the funniest guy online, but was a total asshole to MANY people. The list is very long, with people that would enjoy his tar and feathering.

[MDawg]

RS voted yes on the poll about whether MDawg has won at the casinos. Which MDawg has won consistently, it's the truth. Hence, RS is a good ol' boy, no matter what else.

RS_ is NOT Rob Singer.

When I say RS I mean Rob Singer. I mean obviously - he is the topic of this thread.



I thought you weren't reading my posts anymore?

I knew this one couldn't stay away. They drive 'em to me!

[kewlJ]

When I say RS I mean Rob Singer. I mean obviously - he is the topic of this thread.



I thought you weren't reading my posts anymore?

I knew this one couldn't stay away. They drive 'em to me!

I logged on to respond to BoSox and saw your post immediately following his and decided to take a look thinking it might be related to his. You are a loon. Stop worrying about who is reading what.

Ok, so Rob Singer did vote that he believed you, which actually contradicts a statement he made here not long ago when he said he thought you were a fraud. I could look it up, but am not going to bother. It just sticks in my mind, because I though it was one fraud calling another fraud a fraud.

You seem to latch on to people like a Singer or Freddy that may say something supportive of you, when the fact is these guys are not very respected in the gambling / AP community. Them supporting you is not much of a feather in your cap. It is like a guy accused of murder saying, "OJ Simpson believes I didn't do it".

[MDawg]

Now back to our regularly scheduled program after UnKewlJ's rant. The antithesis of COOL.

Is there any doubt that this guy pisses in his pants when he's playing blackjack and fails to pony up the big bets when he has to? I can just hear him whining in a high pitched voice after losing too many bets.

[BoSox]

BoSox, in your defense of Singer, you state that people didn't believe Singers stories.

That is quoted incorrectly for meaning. Here is what was written:

Although, you will never get any kind of satisfaction from those from the other side objectors. Why? They did not take Singer's stories seriously and were never affected at all, plus no one likes threats made.


Regarding Rob's old progressive system stories, I took the opposing side of him on that issue.

[kewlJ]

Now back to our regularly scheduled program after UnKewlJ's rant. The antithesis of COOL.

Is there any doubt that this guy pisses in his pants when he's playing blackjack and fails to pony up the big bets when he has to? I can just hear him whining in a high pitched voice after losing too many bets.

First of all you don't know me, So happens I do not have a high pitched whispy gay voice. I am a regular guy who happens to be gay. But older people like you living in an antiquated world who can't adjust, can't help but show your homophobia and bigotry, by making such a stereotypical statement.

Secondly, just because you are that bigot kind of person that I just mentioned and don't like someone's persona a message board, it is a pretty messed up person that would assume anything from that about the real life person that they do not know. I think I have proven myself on these forum, that I know what the fuck I am talking about regarding blackjack card counting advantage play. Anyone that thinks I don't or derives some sort of biased person that I am a weak player, is not being honest and fooling themselves.

You need to separate how you feel about someone online with what occurs in real life. For instance, I don't like much of what Mickey, BoSox, or Monet represents online, but have no doubt all three are strong winning AP's. And you have never heard me say anything otherwise, just because they are dicks and I don't like their online comments.

The things you say, very similar to this Rob Singer fictitious character indicate you are very insecure.

[kewlJ]

Regarding Rob's old progressive system stories, I took the opposing side of him on that issue.

ok, so what is it that you are supporting now? The double up bug claim? Th RV claims? I would like you to say on record, please if you will.

Because to me, it is all related. Phony claims by a narcissist, losing, degenerate gambler player and they deserve to be called out as such. The fact that you or anyone else finds him amusing because he bullies people like a third grader is irrelevant and is really something you should ask yourself about.

[MDawg]

Another long drawn out rant, more proof that he is FAR from kewl.

I'd say...of his over 5K posts here, close to 90% are long, drawn out RANTS.

UNKewlJ has two types of posts for the most part:

1. Long drawn out rants that show how he is not in control of his emotions.

2. Pleading catechizing posts where he asks why anyone would disagree with him. (Usually backed up with little more than "so and so agrees with me." - hence the need to keep creating Polls.)

[kewlJ]

More rant, more proof that he is FAR from kewl.

I'd say...of his over 5K posts here, close to 90% are long, drawn out RANTS.

WoW! good comeback. I am speechless. Back to ignore you go, because you are not worth the time. But before you go, I will say this. YOU are not a lawyer. Even though there are some shady lawyers, there is no way you are a Lawyer or could keep yourself from being disbarred. It is just another part of your narcissistic act.

You are NOT a lawyer. You are NOT worth 60-100 million as Boz oddly came up with. And you are NOT a winning baccarat player or any kind of winning player. Those stock picks and trades are NOT real. What you are is insecure because whatever you do have and have achieved isn't good enough for you. So you go back to your pretend world and my ignore list.

[coach belly]

know what the fuck I am talking about regarding blackjack card counting advantage play.

Don't believe it Dawg...tewlj is a proven and admitted liar, and there are major holes in his Blackjack strategy.