My Casino back-rooming.

[MisterV]

I see no need whatsoever for KJ to rush to the courthouse to sue Sweat point.

He talked to Bob and the attorney did what is needed to preserve the video of the backrooming; whether the casino will actually do so, and whether it won't be "lost" remains to be seen; candidly I don't know how these sort of evidentiary things play out in Sin City without a lawsuit being filed and a formal discovery request being made.

Nevada has a two year stature of limitations for personal injury actions to be filed.

It is still my suggestion that KJ bring a claim against Sweat Point but there is no need to hurry in order to do so; rather let him continue his normal play and see if the heat in the local casinos changes, then decide.

Finally, KJ need not file a suit to collect a payday; often a demand letter will suffice.

[kewlJ]

I see no need whatsoever for KJ to rush to the courthouse to sue Sweat point.

He talked to Bob and the attorney did what is needed to preserve the video of the backrooming; whether the casino will actually do so, and whether it won't be "lost" remains to be seen; candidly I don't know how these sort of evidentiary things play out in Sin City without a lawsuit being filed and a formal discovery request being made.

Nevada has a two year stature of limitations for personal injury actions to be filed.

It is still my suggestion that KJ bring a claim against Sweat Point but there is no need to hurry in order to do so; rather let him continue his normal play and see if the heat in the local casinos changes, then decide.

Finally, KJ need not file a suit to collect a payday; often a demand letter will suffice.

Interesting MrV. If I was to pursue something, which I am not, my interest would have been more in the casino abuse angle than personal injury. I understand they would be connected. But one of the big issues for me, was in my sit down with attorney, he laid out how the case would go. He knows me, and what I am about, and his words were "this isn't something you can do anonymously". He went on to explain, the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations. He said something along the lines of "that is how we would bring them to their knees".

That just doesn't work for me right now. I mean maybe if I thought there could be a several hundred thousand dollar payday. But for years of publicity and probably a settlement of 100k neighborhood or less, and then less attorney fees and taxes, that is just a no go for me, regardless of how I would love to hold casino and individual parties accountable.

Now I am off to a lunch date with Mom.

[Rob.Singer]

I see no need whatsoever for KJ to rush to the courthouse to sue Sweat point.

He talked to Bob and the attorney did what is needed to preserve the video of the backrooming; whether the casino will actually do so, and whether it won't be "lost" remains to be seen; candidly I don't know how these sort of evidentiary things play out in Sin City without a lawsuit being filed and a formal discovery request being made.

Nevada has a two year stature of limitations for personal injury actions to be filed.

It is still my suggestion that KJ bring a claim against Sweat Point but there is no need to hurry in order to do so; rather let him continue his normal play and see if the heat in the local casinos changes, then decide.

Finally, KJ need not file a suit to collect a payday; often a demand letter will suffice.

Interesting MrV. If I was to pursue something, which I am not, my interest would have been more in the casino abuse angle than personal injury. I understand they would be connected. But one of the big issues for me, was in my sit down with attorney, he laid out how the case would go. He knows me, and what I am about, and his words were "this isn't something you can do anonymously". He went on to explain, the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations. He said something along the lines of "that is how we would bring them to their knees".

That just doesn't work for me right now. I mean maybe if I thought there could be a several hundred thousand dollar payday. But for years of publicity and probably a settlement of 100k neighborhood or less, and then less attorney fees and taxes, that is just a no go for me, regardless of how I would love to hold casino and individual parties accountable.

Now I am off to a lunch date with Mom.

Yeah right.....probably to "bring her to her knees" too.

You'll notice MrV says nothing about how the casino instantly sent Nersesian this video that supposedly has very incriminating evidence within. Is that the new norm today V---where perpetrators just do this? And even though we now know kew lied about filing a police report, you think they'd have nothing to say about this truly genius move? The ambulance angle didn't help either. Care to comment?

Oh wait---kew's not going to discuss this a second day. He's finished with it!!!

[AxelWolf]

I see no need whatsoever for KJ to rush to the courthouse to sue Sweat point.

He talked to Bob and the attorney did what is needed to preserve the video of the backrooming; whether the casino will actually do so, and whether it won't be "lost" remains to be seen; candidly I don't know how these sort of evidentiary things play out in Sin City without a lawsuit being filed and a formal discovery request being made.

Nevada has a two year stature of limitations for personal injury actions to be filed.

It is still my suggestion that KJ bring a claim against Sweat Point but there is no need to hurry in order to do so; rather let him continue his normal play and see if the heat in the local casinos changes, then decide.

Finally, KJ need not file a suit to collect a payday; often a demand letter will suffice.

Interesting MrV. If I was to pursue something, which I am not, my interest would have been more in the casino abuse angle than personal injury. I understand they would be connected. But one of the big issues for me, was in my sit down with attorney, he laid out how the case would go. He knows me, and what I am about, and his words were "this isn't something you can do anonymously". He went on to explain, the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations. He said something along the lines of "that is how we would bring them to their knees".

That just doesn't work for me right now. I mean maybe if I thought there could be a several hundred thousand dollar payday. But for years of publicity and probably a settlement of 100k neighborhood or less, and then less attorney fees and taxes, that is just a no go for me, regardless of how I would love to hold casino and individual parties accountable. Not that he wouldn't think of doing that given certain circumstances but it's never been a strategy brought up to me.

Now I am off to a lunch date with Mom.

When you say "My attorney" Are you in fact referring to Bob N? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH "the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations" That's a suggestion, YOU are the client you can go with a different strategy. Out of the many backroom cases I know of personally most of them never involved any of that nonsense, most were all settled out of court "quickly" and quietly. Media attention is oftentimes motivated by the attorney's own desires and want for maximum value. I can't imagine you not getting 50k for yourself with a "quick" quiet settlement. For very little time.

Why even have Bob on speed dial if you're not going to pursue a lawsuit when situations arrive? The case you described doesn't get much better than that when it comes to back rooming cases.

FYI I have presented cases to Bob many times and not once has he ever said anything about the strategy would be to release all information and video to the news stations.

[Rob.Singer]

I see no need whatsoever for KJ to rush to the courthouse to sue Sweat point.

He talked to Bob and the attorney did what is needed to preserve the video of the backrooming; whether the casino will actually do so, and whether it won't be "lost" remains to be seen; candidly I don't know how these sort of evidentiary things play out in Sin City without a lawsuit being filed and a formal discovery request being made.

Nevada has a two year stature of limitations for personal injury actions to be filed.

It is still my suggestion that KJ bring a claim against Sweat Point but there is no need to hurry in order to do so; rather let him continue his normal play and see if the heat in the local casinos changes, then decide.

Finally, KJ need not file a suit to collect a payday; often a demand letter will suffice.

Interesting MrV. If I was to pursue something, which I am not, my interest would have been more in the casino abuse angle than personal injury. I understand they would be connected. But one of the big issues for me, was in my sit down with attorney, he laid out how the case would go. He knows me, and what I am about, and his words were "this isn't something you can do anonymously". He went on to explain, the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations. He said something along the lines of "that is how we would bring them to their knees".

That just doesn't work for me right now. I mean maybe if I thought there could be a several hundred thousand dollar payday. But for years of publicity and probably a settlement of 100k neighborhood or less, and then less attorney fees and taxes, that is just a no go for me, regardless of how I would love to hold casino and individual parties accountable. Not that he wouldn't think of doing that given certain circumstances but it's never been a strategy brought up to me.

Now I am off to a lunch date with Mom.

When you say "My attorney" Are you in fact referring to Bob N? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH "the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations" That's a suggestion, YOU are the client you can go with a different strategy. Out of the many backroom cases I know of personally most of them never involved any of that nonsense, most were all settled out of court "quickly" and quietly. Media attention is oftentimes motivated by the attorney's own desires and want for maximum value. I can't imagine you not getting 50k for yourself with a "quick" quiet settlement. For very little time.

Why even have Bob on speed dial if you're not going to pursue a lawsuit when situations arrive? The case you described doesn't get much better than that when it comes to back rooming cases.

FYI I have presented cases to Bob many times and not once has he ever said anything about the strategy would be to release all information and video to the news stations.

Responding to common sense posts instead of to funny insults as a result of his lies, is not kew's strong suit.

It isn't a stretch to understand how anyone this would really happen to would have a big check in his hand in short order and with an agreement that no one share any of it anywhere, including between casinos.

Baby bro's karate skills are impressive though....

[MisterV]

Big businesses such as casinos and TV networks do not relish negative publicity as it costs them money.

How much does it cost?

Fox News agreed to pay $787.5M to prevent Americans from learning / seeing what bullshit artists they really are, and how they've mind-fucked the sheeple.

But I digress...

[Rob.Singer]

Big businesses such as casinos and TV networks do not relish negative publicity as it costs them money.

How much does it cost?

Fox News agreed to pay $787.5M to prevent Americans from learning / seeing what bullshit artists they really are, and how they've mind-fucked the sheeple.

But I digress...

There are also other angles.

Back when South Point just finished transitioning from South Coast (I think around 2007) a mutual AP friend of mine and axel's (Rick Radner) was thrown out of the casino and identified as an "undesirable" for allegedly being extremely rude to employees.

Rick loved playing there and lived nearby. He had multiple AP plays going down and really REALLY did not want to be banned. He turned to me as a GT columnist, and asked for my help. He claimed his argument with several employees over a malfunctioning machine was valid, and that his follow-on rudeness to a cocktail waitress was regrettable and he apologized. I met with casino mgmt. on his behalf. I told them he was sorry, they knew he lived nearby, and he gave them decent action. But the scenario changed when I said I'd put the entire episode in my next column. The ban was lifted within the next 24 hours.

This is how much these casinos do not want negative publicity.

Even a caveman knows kew's story, had it been real, would have netted him a bundle.

[mickeycrimm]

Big businesses such as casinos and TV networks do not relish negative publicity as it costs them money.

How much does it cost?

Fox News agreed to pay $787.5M to prevent Americans from learning / seeing what bullshit artists they really are, and how they've mind-fucked the sheeple.

But I digress...

[Dan Druff]

I see no need whatsoever for KJ to rush to the courthouse to sue Sweat point.

He talked to Bob and the attorney did what is needed to preserve the video of the backrooming; whether the casino will actually do so, and whether it won't be "lost" remains to be seen; candidly I don't know how these sort of evidentiary things play out in Sin City without a lawsuit being filed and a formal discovery request being made.

Nevada has a two year stature of limitations for personal injury actions to be filed.

It is still my suggestion that KJ bring a claim against Sweat Point but there is no need to hurry in order to do so; rather let him continue his normal play and see if the heat in the local casinos changes, then decide.

Finally, KJ need not file a suit to collect a payday; often a demand letter will suffice.

Interesting MrV. If I was to pursue something, which I am not, my interest would have been more in the casino abuse angle than personal injury. I understand they would be connected. But one of the big issues for me, was in my sit down with attorney, he laid out how the case would go. He knows me, and what I am about, and his words were "this isn't something you can do anonymously". He went on to explain, the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations. He said something along the lines of "that is how we would bring them to their knees".

That just doesn't work for me right now. I mean maybe if I thought there could be a several hundred thousand dollar payday. But for years of publicity and probably a settlement of 100k neighborhood or less, and then less attorney fees and taxes, that is just a no go for me, regardless of how I would love to hold casino and individual parties accountable. Not that he wouldn't think of doing that given certain circumstances but it's never been a strategy brought up to me.

Now I am off to a lunch date with Mom.

When you say "My attorney" Are you in fact referring to Bob N? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH "the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations" That's a suggestion, YOU are the client you can go with a different strategy. Out of the many backroom cases I know of personally most of them never involved any of that nonsense, most were all settled out of court "quickly" and quietly. Media attention is oftentimes motivated by the attorney's own desires and want for maximum value. I can't imagine you not getting 50k for yourself with a "quick" quiet settlement. For very little time.

Why even have Bob on speed dial if you're not going to pursue a lawsuit when situations arrive? The case you described doesn't get much better than that when it comes to back rooming cases.

FYI I have presented cases to Bob many times and not once has he ever said anything about the strategy would be to release all information and video to the news stations.

These are my questions, as well.

The whole thing seems bizarre to have an attorney to handle these situations, and then when a slam dunk one came up, KJ decided, "Nah, gotta maintain my anonymity."

And if anonymity was the concern, why not at least take it as far as you can without litigating, especially when the casino knows you have them by the balls?

Sorry but a lot of this doesn't add up. I have no problem with KJ and think he sometimes takes a lot more shit than he deserves, but this story is either incomplete, fabricated, or partially fabricated.

[kewlJ]

Sorry but a lot of this doesn't add up. I have no problem with KJ and think he sometimes takes a lot more shit than he deserves, but this story is either incomplete, fabricated, or partially fabricated.

It isn't Dan Druff. But you are free to think what you like. I know Ron will appreciate it.

Besides that I believe this can harm my career, I am not a big lawsuit kind of guy. I was involved in legal action against a previous condo that was trying to force some of us out. That was a group thing. I don't think I have ever been involved in anything else. It just isn't my kind of thing generally. But whatever. Maybe this is a situation that requires something though.

[kewlJ]

When you say "My attorney" Are you in fact referring to Bob N? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH "the strategy would be to release all information and video to the new stations" That's a suggestion, YOU are the client you can go with a different strategy. Out of the many backroom cases I know of personally most of them never involved any of that nonsense, most were all settled out of court "quickly" and quietly. Media attention is oftentimes motivated by the attorney's own desires and want for maximum value. I can't imagine you not getting 50k for yourself with a "quick" quiet settlement. For very little time.

Why even have Bob on speed dial if you're not going to pursue a lawsuit when situations arrive? The case you described doesn't get much better than that when it comes to back rooming cases.

FYI I have presented cases to Bob many times and not once has he ever said anything about the strategy would be to release all information and video to the news stations.

I haven't used a name in referring to "my attorney", because several years when I did, some of the really sicko trolls, called and bugged him, as if he would ever tell them anything. Can you imagine people on a forum thinking they have a right to do that? But I have had people from forums show up at my home, so I guess nothing is beyond these sickos.

Axelwolf, you are making me consider....reconsidering. Not just you but, Druff, MrV, even mickey who I am more often than not at odds with these days. Basically a few people that I respect as opposed to the nit wits and trolls. My brother also wants me to pursue action and when I said at the very beginning, I almost feel like it is my responsibility to do so, to help stop this shit and stop it from happening to other players, he is at the top of that list that I would like to help stop it from ever happening to.

So I think I will think about it a little more, maybe have another conversation with parties that would be involved. So it is probably best for me to say no more right now.

One of the really great things about this is how discombobulated a couple of the hating trolls have become. Both throwing everything they can think of at the wall, desperately hoping somethings sticks. Singer even crawled back here again! Your welcome Ozzy! The other guy, you know the one.....the guy who was drugged and had his watch stolen by a prostitute, he too is beside himself. He said one of the things that proves this not true is that I didn't mention a cast on my arm. Seriously!!! You cannot make this stuff up. Did I really need to say that I have a cast on my broken arm? Do I need to say each time I take a breath, or put on my socks as well? How completely nuts these guys are. Their hate consumes them.