I agree because in, for example Bonus poker, two pair pays $1,000 on a $500 machine. But now consider roulette:
Here is the error. If either red or black hits you don't win $500. You win $250 -- even money. And that leaves your winning free play $250 on the machine for another spin.
Unlike video poker, you weren't paid two-for-one. You were paid one-for-one.
No, it pays 2-for-1.
Find me a roulette machine that pays 1-to-1 or 1-for-1. It is 2-for-1..
BTW, 1-for-1 basically means YOU CANNOT WIN. Wanna do a coin flip? If it lands on heads, I'll pay you 1-for-1. If it lands on tails, you lose 1. [Hint: 1-for-1 is the same as breaking even.]
Alan, for someone who makes himself look like an expert when it comes to gambling....you're making yourself look idiotic right now.
I figured it out. Sort of the same on video blackjack where a push actually pays (bet a freeplay credit, get a tie, get actual cash returned). Basically it sounds like it works like a match play but only for machines.
Even money for me means If I bet five I win five.
I don't play roulette but I play craps. The pass line is an even money bet.
When I have $5 on the passline and there is a winner I am paid $5 and the passline bet remains.
If the passline bet were "free play" it would not be converted to $5 cash. And at Rincon I would have lost it.
Now how is this different from an even money bet at roulette on black or red?
And what about your shit-talking buddy jbjb?
He's idiotic too...right?
And please explain, how a fulltime AP pro, having spent so much time in casinos, could not have known or understood this obvious, simple and common situation.
Try explaining the math behind that mystery...because it certainly doesn't add up.
I'm very idiotic sometimes. I'm also a bigger asshole than Singer :-)
Again, it just wasn't making sense to me. Once I though of how it works on VBJ, I understood what's happening.
Also, you don't have to know shit about math to beat casinos. Just learn the right strategies for the respective games.
It's video roulette...it's different. Bets don't remain on the table after a spin.
You bet 5 on red...an even money bet...red hits and you "win" 10.
The original 5 bet does not stay on the table, it's returned to you as credits on your meter.
It's just like VP...where 2 pair pays even money.
You bet 5...you hit 2 pair...the machine says "win 10" but you only won 5...the other 5 is your bet,
returned to you in the form of credits on your meter, not on the table.
I am glad you wrote it like this:
Not in the casinos I play at. Even money bet means you bet 5 and you win 5 and the original $5 free play bet is returned to you. It's returned to you as FREE PLAY. You're telling me that it is returned to you as "cash." I have never experienced that. I have only experienced the original wager being returned if it was a winner -- and it has never been converted to real cash.
What do you mean, you've never experienced that? That's what happens when you run your freeplay through VP.
We're talking about machine play here, not table games.
Once you wager your free play it can be cashed out...it's not returned as free play.
If you have $500 in freeplay, and play one 5-credit hand at the $100 machine, and hit a pair of Jacks, that's a push.
You still have 5 credits on your meter, but it's not returned to you as free play, you can cash that $500 out.
How can something so simple be going on for 3 pages??? Time for Advil
Last edited by coach belly; 02-02-2016 at 04:44 PM.
Alan
It appears you're a successful business man, but you're one stubborn bastard.... You take us on a merry go round that never ends... You have never tried this advantage play, yet you're acting as if you've been doing this for years....
Tell you what I'll use my IPhone and video it for you.. Then post it, won't tell you the casino in Vegas though.. Don't want my "ATM" to dry up
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