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    Nice mug...good lord, take your meds!

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    Originally Posted by Eliot View Post
    Or just read an MDawg post or watch a Christopher Mitchell video.

    Of course they may be the same person. Not sure which one’s claims are more outrageous.

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    Nice work by Eliot.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    I’m a little surprised that Eliot went out of his way to make this 18-minute video “How to Identify a Baccarat Scammer, Fraudster, Liar, Troll or Delusional Bragger.”

    Obviously, you felt the need to interject yourself into the endless back and forth nonsense that takes place between these meaningless foolish members on these forums. You actually spoke as if one of these ridiculous bets would even take place between these fools. Such as the player can’t choose the casino where he wants to prove his talents, the casino might be in collusion with the player to win, throw darts at a board to pick casino, that’s only a few of the stupidest demands I’ve read. Believe me there were much worse demands that I don't feel like finding.

    As an alleged professional AP or whatever it is you claim about yourself, this is an embarrassment to all the people who viewed you in a more logical mature view.

    Like you said early on in your recording:

    “Fred may be a winner exactly as he claimed. So what?"
    "And if Fred Lost, so what?”

    Why not take you own advice and shut the fuck up? So what? Who the fuck cares one way or the other except a few loser assholes?

    P.S. If this was just a bullshit effort to bring more hits to your advertised “Advance AP Website” the whole time you’re speaking about trolls, I guess I understand. If not, you’re just another fucking idiot that fits right in with the rest of them. Including your pal Shank who is always looking for any type of traffic to direct dumb USA players to off shore illegal casinos.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Nice work by Eliot.
    Nice work to change his photo from mental patient face to douchebag face.

    A man's vanity is more fragile that you might think.

    There comes a time when you look into the mirror and you realize that what you see is all that you will ever be. And then you accept it. Or you kill yourself. Or you stop looking in mirrors.

    What will he change it to next?
    Last edited by coach belly; 11-29-2020 at 06:36 PM.

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    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Nice work by Eliot.
    Nice work to change his photo from mental patient face to douchebag face.

    A man's vanity is more fragile that you might think.

    There comes a time when you look into the mirror and you realize that what you see is all that you will ever be. And then you accept it. Or you kill yourself. Or you stop looking in mirrors.

    What will he change it to next?
    He put his face up on the internet. How about you, shitbag coward. Put your fucking mug up, bitch, or you are a dirty little stinking coward forever. Same goes for blackstinkhole. You two cowards hide behind phony names and act tough. The truth is you are both a couple of crying sniveling little bitches that can't beat the flies off your asses.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 11-29-2020 at 07:03 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    A noted gambling expert has a video on youtube about baccarat scammers to educate the masses on this phenomenon. The video was not made just for members of an obscure gambling forum but for everyone around the world. Here's the link:

    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A noted gambling expert has a video on youtube about baccarat scammers to educate the masses on this phenomenon. The video was not made just for members of an obscure gambling forum but for everyone around the world.
    Yep, exactly. Is there another casino game with as many scamming posers as baccarat? Maybe roulette in France.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Put your fucking mug up
    I'll put my picture up when any other member agrees to have their photo taken with me and have it posted here. You are eligible too whitey, and after the photo we can scrap.

    Does Eliot like girls...or are there any girls that dig him?

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A noted gambling expert has a video on youtube about baccarat scammers to educate the masses on this phenomenon. The video was not made just for members of an obscure gambling forum but for everyone around the world.
    It can’t get more coincidental then what’s going on between both these foolish forums with Baccarat, Mdawg, the rest of the combined fools, and Eliot’s You Tube about the same exact topic.

    You know what they say? “timing is everything”

    You might have a better chance of hitting 14 Baccarat Ties in a row than the timing of the above events coinciding again.

    For the record who the fuck Is Eliot anyhow? What makes his comments or You Tube recording any more special than any other bullshit artist on these forums or anywhere else for that matter? Are his words considered “Words of Wisdom”? Why should anyone take what he thinks anymore than anyone else? Why does he get to make a You Tube for the masses around the world on this subject? Just who the fuck is this guy? Can anyone put up some facts why Eliot is someone special on this subject and we should listen and accept what he says as confirmed fact?

    I read Eliot was a gambling mathematician? I also read he was a big-time loser who tried to bribe Casinos to back him because of his AP knowledge. Mike S. is a mathematician also and look at how much of an asshole he is. He should have grabbed that BINGO money he hit from crooked offshore casinos and faded into the darkness.

    If Mike S. is someone to look up to, I guess why not Eliot. How about Tasha?
    Last edited by blackhole; 11-29-2020 at 10:08 PM.

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    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    and after the photo we can scrap.
    You mean deul.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A noted gambling expert has a video on youtube about baccarat scammers to educate the masses on this phenomenon. The video was not made just for members of an obscure gambling forum but for everyone around the world.
    It can’t get more coincidental then what’s going on between both these foolish forums with Baccarat, Mdawg, the rest of the combined fools, and Eliot’s You Tube about the same exact topic.

    You know what they say? “timing is everything”

    You might have a better chance of hitting 14 Baccarat Ties in a row than the timing of the above events coinciding again.

    For the record who the fuck Is Eliot anyhow? What makes his comments or You Tube recording any more special than any other bullshit artist on these forums or anywhere else for that matter? Are his words considered “Words of Wisdom”? Why should anyone take what he thinks anymore than anyone else? Why does he get to make a You Tube for the masses around the world on this subject? Just who the fuck is this guy? Can anyone put up some facts why Eliot is someone special on this subject and we should listen and accept what he says as confirmed fact?

    I read Eliot was a gambling mathematician? I also read he was a big-time loser who tried to bribe Casinos to back him because of his AP knowledge. Mike S. is a mathematician also and look at how much of an asshole he is. He should have grabbed that BINGO money he hit from crooked offshore casinos and faded into the darkness.

    If Mike S. is someone to look up to, I guess why not Eliot. How about Tasha?
    You obviously got your take on Jacobsen from Tewlj. But you obviously missed the part about tewlj being pissed at Jacobsen for being a successful consultant to casino execs. You should go to Amazon and buy his book "Advanced Advantage Play."

    Tewlj decided to label Jacobsen as a failed gambler because he moved on from it. But when you are a PHD you have a lot more options than just gambling. Its like saying Thorp was a failed gambler because he moved on from blackjack. Tewlj has a high school diploma. What the hell does he have to move on to?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Eliot is and has always been the real deal. His old website was a bonanza of knowledge for those who understand how to use it. And saved a lot of money and time for people chasing things they thought seemed like plays but they didn’t do the math on. No one can argue he is not a mathematical genius.

    I know some bitched that he gave away too much and hurt some AP’s but the guy was honest about what he did. And admitted BJ wasn’t for him. How many have been as honest as Eliot has been with exactly what he was doing? Mike can’t and we all know he worked for the V and never fully explained what he did there and why it didn’t last. And look at Dancer and his relationships with casinos over the years.

    And for the most telling thing of all, you can’t find a place or time I said a negative things about Eliot. It may not mean much but there aren’t many people in this community you can say that about.��

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    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A noted gambling expert has a video on youtube about baccarat scammers to educate the masses on this phenomenon. The video was not made just for members of an obscure gambling forum but for everyone around the world.
    It can’t get more coincidental then what’s going on between both these foolish forums with Baccarat, Mdawg, the rest of the combined fools, and Eliot’s You Tube about the same exact topic.

    You know what they say? “timing is everything”

    You might have a better chance of hitting 14 Baccarat Ties in a row than the timing of the above events coinciding again.

    For the record who the fuck Is Eliot anyhow? What makes his comments or You Tube recording any more special than any other bullshit artist on these forums or anywhere else for that matter? Are his words considered “Words of Wisdom”? Why should anyone take what he thinks anymore than anyone else? Why does he get to make a You Tube for the masses around the world on this subject? Just who the fuck is this guy? Can anyone put up some facts why Eliot is someone special on this subject and we should listen and accept what he says as confirmed fact?

    I read Eliot was a gambling mathematician? I also read he was a big-time loser who tried to bribe Casinos to back him because of his AP knowledge. Mike S. is a mathematician also and look at how much of an asshole he is. He should have grabbed that BINGO money he hit from crooked offshore casinos and faded into the darkness.

    If Mike S. is someone to look up to, I guess why not Eliot. How about Tasha?
    You obviously got your take on Jacobsen from Tewlj. But you obviously missed the part about tewlj being pissed at Jacobsen for being a successful consultant to casino execs. You should go to Amazon and buy his book "Advanced Advantage Play."

    Tewlj decided to label Jacobsen as a failed gambler because he moved on from it. But when you are a PHD you have a lot more options than just gambling. Its like saying Thorp was a failed gambler because he moved on from blackjack. Tewlj has a high school diploma. What the hell does he have to move on to?
    You’re getting pretty good at this cock holstering thing Mickey, from Rob to Trump to EJ now, a diverse cast of eccentric characters. Becoming a consultant is a funny way of moving on from gambling.
    Last edited by mcap; 11-30-2020 at 10:24 AM.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You obviously got your take on Jacobsen from Tewlj. But you obviously missed the part about tewlj being pissed at Jacobsen for being a successful consultant to casino execs. You should go to Amazon and buy his book "Advanced Advantage Play."

    Tewlj decided to label Jacobsen as a failed gambler because he moved on from it. But when you are a PHD you have a lot more options than just gambling. Its like saying Thorp was a failed gambler because he moved on from blackjack. Tewlj has a high school diploma. What the hell does he have to move on to?
    Mickey, why are you always trying to pick a fight? You need to relax a bit, chill a little. Less stress...good for your heart.

    I am not even sure when Eliot's "playing career' was. I believe before my time, or at least before I became active on gambling related forums. So I didn't have any real interactions with Eliot. My opinions were influenced strongly by people in the BJ community and there was a very strong consensus that Eliot was a traitor, including several players that I network with personally, who have never steered me wrong about anything.

    Some of them swear Eliot game names, information and descriptions of players to the "enemy". Eliot denies this. I read "Advanced Advantage Play." and found it useful. Learned some things. I didn't feel like that book was meant just for casino consumption, but people in the industry (the enemy) probably learned some things as well. Now Eliot's website and seminar, were targeting the casino industry. Seems to me I read a disclosure that you had to be in the casino industry to attend, although I know of AP's that attended.

    One thing I liked is Eliot had a bit of Bill Zender philosophy in that he seemed to imply casinos and the industry should stop obsessing over card counters as their were much bigger fish to fry. As a card counter, I like that philosophy. But I suppose some of the hole-carders in various games didn't appreciate it.

    In the last year, I have had a chance to interact with Eliot a little bit on forums and he doesn't seem like a terrible guy. It is my understanding Eliot is retired now from gambling /gaming protection and these areas, so I wish him well. I wish him peace and happiness.

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    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post

    It can’t get more coincidental then what’s going on between both these foolish forums with Baccarat, Mdawg, the rest of the combined fools, and Eliot’s You Tube about the same exact topic.

    You know what they say? “timing is everything”

    You might have a better chance of hitting 14 Baccarat Ties in a row than the timing of the above events coinciding again.

    For the record who the fuck Is Eliot anyhow? What makes his comments or You Tube recording any more special than any other bullshit artist on these forums or anywhere else for that matter? Are his words considered “Words of Wisdom”? Why should anyone take what he thinks anymore than anyone else? Why does he get to make a You Tube for the masses around the world on this subject? Just who the fuck is this guy? Can anyone put up some facts why Eliot is someone special on this subject and we should listen and accept what he says as confirmed fact?

    I read Eliot was a gambling mathematician? I also read he was a big-time loser who tried to bribe Casinos to back him because of his AP knowledge. Mike S. is a mathematician also and look at how much of an asshole he is. He should have grabbed that BINGO money he hit from crooked offshore casinos and faded into the darkness.

    If Mike S. is someone to look up to, I guess why not Eliot. How about Tasha?
    You obviously got your take on Jacobsen from Tewlj. But you obviously missed the part about tewlj being pissed at Jacobsen for being a successful consultant to casino execs. You should go to Amazon and buy his book "Advanced Advantage Play."

    Tewlj decided to label Jacobsen as a failed gambler because he moved on from it. But when you are a PHD you have a lot more options than just gambling. Its like saying Thorp was a failed gambler because he moved on from blackjack. Tewlj has a high school diploma. What the hell does he have to move on to?
    You’re getting pretty good at this cock holstering thing Mickey, from Rob to Trump to EJ now, a diverse cast of eccentric characters. Becoming a consultant is a funny way of moving on from gambling.
    Bob Dancer was a consultant to casinos WHILE he was selling his shit to gamblers. He wrote about his consulting business. He gave seminars to casino execs.

    David Sklansky has sold a ton of books, not just on poker, but all around gambling. He was also Bob Stupak's consultant on the math of gambling games. He also was consultant to Lyle Berman of Grand Casinos. This goes back to about 2000 but the Grand Casinos in Mississippi put in a ton of $5 denom IGT Vision machines which were highly exploited by hustlers. Many making 20K a month. Berman got Sklansky to visit and look the situation over. Sklansky went down and took a look. He told Berman the only solution was to get rid of the Vision Series which Berman promptly did. I've don't know that I've ever seen any criticism of Sklansky for working both sides of the fence.

    And, of course, Shack worked for Venetian. So he worked both sides of the fence.

    So was becoming a consultant funny for these guys too?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You obviously got your take on Jacobsen from Tewlj. But you obviously missed the part about tewlj being pissed at Jacobsen for being a successful consultant to casino execs. You should go to Amazon and buy his book "Advanced Advantage Play."

    Tewlj decided to label Jacobsen as a failed gambler because he moved on from it. But when you are a PHD you have a lot more options than just gambling. Its like saying Thorp was a failed gambler because he moved on from blackjack. Tewlj has a high school diploma. What the hell does he have to move on to?
    Mickey, why are you always trying to pick a fight? You need to relax a bit, chill a little. Less stress...good for your heart.

    I am not even sure when Eliot's "playing career' was. I believe before my time, or at least before I became active on gambling related forums. So I didn't have any real interactions with Eliot. My opinions were influenced strongly by people in the BJ community and there was a very strong consensus that Eliot was a traitor, including several players that I network with personally, who have never steered me wrong about anything.

    Some of them swear Eliot game names, information and descriptions of players to the "enemy". Eliot denies this. I read "Advanced Advantage Play." and found it useful. Learned some things. I didn't feel like that book was meant just for casino consumption, but people in the industry (the enemy) probably learned some things as well. Now Eliot's website and seminar, were targeting the casino industry. Seems to me I read a disclosure that you had to be in the casino industry to attend, although I know of AP's that attended.

    One thing I liked is Eliot had a bit of Bill Zender philosophy in that he seemed to imply casinos and the industry should stop obsessing over card counters as their were much bigger fish to fry. As a card counter, I like that philosophy. But I suppose some of the hole-carders in various games didn't appreciate it.

    In the last year, I have had a chance to interact with Eliot a little bit on forums and he doesn't seem like a terrible guy. It is my understanding Eliot is retired now from gambling /gaming protection and these areas, so I wish him well. I wish him peace and happiness.
    You need to ask Coach Smelly about always picking fights, not me.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Yes. Sketchy in all cases. Dancer’s rep is the epitome of sketchy stab anyone if it makes you a dollar. Him and Rubin. And like I said, funny way of “moving on from gambling,” as it wasn’t moving on from gambling like you said he did.
    Last edited by mcap; 11-30-2020 at 11:05 AM.

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