Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[a2a3dseddie]

And eddie, get real. Can't you just picture arci scrambling around telling himself and everyone else "he photo-shopped the forms because it just can't be!" or, "he just HAD to be playing with someone else's money"!! Don't you understand that arci just made another idiot of himself when trying to discredit me? He, among a few others, have no way out now. And that's just fine with me....

But it would only be Alan looking at your W-2G forms, or win/loss statements. Let him decide if it looks legit or photo-shopped.

[Rob.Singer]

But it would only be Alan looking at your W-2G forms, or win/loss statements. Let him decide if it looks legit or photo-shopped.

Eddie, think. Just how do you get by the "he probably lost $100k and more" and "Singer was obviously playing with someone else's money" claims after that? These envious people don't stop, so I do.

[Alan Mendelson]

I have a big win to report also... but unlike Rob Singer I didn't stroll into the casino with $10,000 in cash. Nope. I just had $150 of free play plus I cashed in Total Rewards reward credits and "bought" $120 of free play. So I had $270 in the machine and I was dealt a straight flush for $500 and a few hands later I drew quad jacks and quad 4s. At the "peak" I had $1350 on the meter. Then, I lost $80 playing card craps, but hit a progressive quad Aces on a 25-cent game for a pay of $211.25. I left the casino with $1226.

This was really a spontaneous trip. My son wanted to "test drive" the new "wing" he just installed on his sportscar (a "wing" is some sort of super duper spoiler he imported from Japan and supposedly is the first to arrive in the USA... he was in the auto parts business before going to work with me so he had his connections to get it) so we got on the freeway and at 9pm there is no traffic and we just kept driving to Rincon.

He also had a big win on the night. He was playing three-line 25-cent Ultimate Aces, was dealt trip aces which triggered a 7X multiplier and got the quad on one line and that paid $1,000 total. He had $60 of free play at Rincon but chose the "double up" option when he swiped his card and doubled up to $120 of free play (he could have lost half).

Photos below of the dealt straight flush, and Jacks and 4s.

[a2a3dseddie]

Eddie, think. Just how do you get by the "he probably lost $100k and more" and "Singer was obviously playing with someone else's money" claims after that? These envious people don't stop, so I do.

But if you're willing to put up with the doubters who say the jackpots you post aren't yours why wouldn't you send a W-2G form to Alan, or help him log into one of the casinos' websites you won these big winners at. You say you always use your players card. You should be able to access and look at your win/loss statements online. That would impossible to "fake". Just show Alan. That would be definitive proof.

[arcimede$]

OK I'll e-mail it. It just shows the name of the casino, which I'd like to keep private between you & I for reasons I explained.

LOL LOL LOL

Hilarious. Now why would Singer want to keep the casino name a secret? The casino itself is not going to care. Besides, they already know about the win. No, it's likely the casino name (if that's really what was there) would give away another one of Singer's lies.

1) It was nowhere near where Singer has claimed to be living or visiting which Alan could verify through IP addresses of Singer's comments. Or
2) It's back in AZ or southern NV where Singer claims to have moved away which is why he hasn't provided all those "documents" he promised a couple years ago.
3) ????

Of course, since we know nothing Singer says is trustworthy, it could be the player's club display with a name on it as someone else mentioned.

[Rob.Singer]

Alan, that was a good run for you and Jason. But I'm more interested in this "wing" (rear spoiler?). Can you have him e-mail me with how it works on what type of car, etc.? Thanks.

Can you please also put poor arci out of his misery by explaining the mystery of the white blotch....(although it's FUN watching him have to endure )

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob, I don't understand why you blocked the name of the casino? Why don't you just come out and say it? Yes, Rob sent me the photo without the blotch blocking the name of the casino. And I don't understand why it was blocked in the first place.

If Rob wants me to tell, I will tell. But I don't understand why Rob won't say it himself? There is no surprise here. Nothing dramatic. I think the only question is why was it blocked in the first place?

[Rob.Singer]

Rob, I don't understand why you blocked the name of the casino? Why don't you just come out and say it? Yes, Rob sent me the photo without the blotch blocking the name of the casino. And I don't understand why it was blocked in the first place.

If Rob wants me to tell, I will tell. But I don't understand why Rob won't say it himself? There is no surprise here. Nothing dramatic. I think the only question is why was it blocked in the first place?

I explained why in an earlier post. I got this first picture in after the first attendant came over and pulled my card. I checked to see how it came out just as the commotion of a supervisor and floor people and an exec started showing up. I wanted to get another "prettier" picture of the hand, but I was told they don't like pictures being taken in their HL room. I didn't argue because I already had one. And because I was planning on publishing it on your site, it seems the right thing to do not to put up the name. It's just in case, because I expect to play there again in the future and courtesy can go a long way.

[Alan Mendelson]

My cousin is the boss' personal assistant. If you run into trouble let me know.

[Vegas_lover]

I explained why in an earlier post. I got this first picture in after the first attendant came over and pulled my card. I checked to see how it came out just as the commotion of a supervisor and floor people and an exec started showing up. I wanted to get another "prettier" picture of the hand, but I was told they don't like pictures being taken in their HL room. I didn't argue because I already had one. And because I was planning on publishing it on your site, it seems the right thing to do not to put up the name. It's just in case, because I expect to play there again in the future and courtesy can go a long way.

Wonderful story

[Spock]

While gazing at that fantastic win of yours Rob I noticed something that seemed a little odd and I was hoping you might be able to explain it. When I looked at the image the denomination amount jumped right out at me because it just didn't seem to look quite right:


(The original post and image can be viewed here.)

The "2" seems to be smack dab in the center, but the "5" is bulging out beyond the inner circle and the top right of the "5" seems to be even fall beyond the full circle. I can't recall ever seeing a denomination that looked like that and I have a hard time understanding how a computer generated object such as this could be so out of whack. I found a variety of other denomination images from both here and elsewhere and everything else I found fit within the size of the circle with relative ease:



It couldn't be the $25 amount because the last image above is $25 as well and it fit fine, as did the 25 cent one. But when you put them all together it is easy to spot the outlier:



Any idea why that machine rendered that image so poorly?

I have another question concerning this win that you posted earlier:



I thought this image was interesting mostly because of what it, and you, didn't say. In your text that accompanied the images you didn't mention a thing about this being a progressive royal, yet with a win meter showing 6258 it clearly was. For someone who usually gives rather in-depth details about every win it was a surprising omission.

What is even more interesting to me is the fact that the top line, the one that should show the dollar amount of the progressive, is completely cut off. Even more amazing is the fact that it is nearly perfectly cropped so that top line doesn't show, something that would be nearly impossible to have happened accidentally.

You made a point of pointing out the pay table, was there any particular reason you didn't mention the progressive?

[Alan Mendelson]

Very interesting Spock. Thank you for all of the details.

Rob do you even play deuces? I don't recall you ever mentioning it.

[Count Room]

Even though I have sincere respect for some of the posters here, I have to say that photoshopping fake jackpots just to impress internet posters would be a gigantic, tragic waste of time for me. What's the point? Brownie points?

I also want to say that the $25 button on Rob's jackpot (real or fake) does look like an altered $2 button, yet how do you account for the $100,500 on the meter? If the original denomination was $2 you would not only have to masterfully alter the meter from $8,000 or so, but also that huge jackpot sign on the screen would have to be seamlessly altered as well. I'm not saying Rob DIDN'T fake the win (I really don't know), but that off-center '5' wouldn't be conclusive enough evidence for me, personally.

[redietz]

The debate is easily enough solved. Rob told Alan which casino he had been playing in when he hit the jackpot. Alan can either himself or via assigned sworn-to-secrecy-regarding-location proxy check that casino to see if those denomination machines have the offset 5 as shown by Spock. If they do, Rob hit the jackpot. If not, the claim is very questionable.

Easy peasy

[regnis]

Very interesting Spock. Thank you for all of the details.

Rob do you even play deuces? I don't recall you ever mentioning it.

I also wondered about deuces. Doesn't seem like Rob ever mentioned that game--and I'm one to believe his wins are legit.

[Vegas_lover]

There are some other small things people haven't noticed in the picture Rob shared. About the paytable you see a wide area of black (being the frame of this machine). On the right side in this black portion of the picture you see a white line (not straight). That's the "white pencil" you can use in microsoft paint (photo editing) to alter photographs.

Ron has been very elaborate about the casino having problems with him taking pictures in the HL area. Well, again, look closely at that black frame of the machine in that picture. On the left side you can see that the flash of the camera turned the frame of the machine into a mirror. In that mirror you can clearly see a woman that appears to be taking a picture of something else. Rather interesting....

[Alan Mendelson]

The debate is easily enough solved. Rob told Alan which casino he had been playing in when he hit the jackpot. Alan can either himself or via assigned sworn-to-secrecy-regarding-location proxy check that casino to see if those denomination machines have the offset 5 as shown by Spock. If they do, Rob hit the jackpot. If not, the claim is very questionable.

Easy peasy

I like this idea and this casino will not be hard to find, nor will the machine in that casino be hard to find. I would love to get in the car and drive up to see for myself but demands at work prohibit me from doing it. Rob, I don't think, should object at this point to revealing the name of the casino or allowing me to reveal it so someone here can check for us all. Frankly, the color scheme is pretty obvious -- and when I showed the photo to someone at my son's business here in LA he immediately said "oh, that's the ____ casino" because he used to live in Vegas and the color scheme is well known.

I think if the $25 symbol appears off center to our "investigator" then much of the suspicions can be put to rest.

If I could do it myself, I would.

Regarding other observations about flashes and lines and suspicions about altering the photo -- I think we should put those aside until the one, simple look at this machine is made.

Rincon has the same model IGT machine as these and I might drive there in the next few days to look at their $25 machines to check the symbol. However, I don't think the $25 machines have been upgraded yet to these new models. The high limit room at Rincon still is mostly made up of the older slant tops. Caesars also has this new model machine but I played only at the $5 level and even though the denomination could be switched to $25 I never did switch from $5.

To be honest, I think the questions are valid, but I also think that there is an explanation that would not invalidate Rob's report about the big win. People do win big jackpots -- especially people who have big bankrolls and play at high denominations. Hitting a royal on a 25-cent machine has the same odds as hitting a royal on a $25 machine or a $100 machine, and the only difference is having the bankroll to play at the higher denominations.

[arcimede$]

It just gets more and more hilarious. The $25 symbol is obviously an edit. And, since Alan has let the cat out of the bag that this machine is in Vegas, we now know that Singer has been lying about living near Reno. Since AZ state records still put him in Scottsdale, I think another lie has just been verified. He lied about where he is living in order to avoid admitting he lied about having "documents" to support his system.

In the past Singer has also stated he NEVER plays deuces games since his system requires large bonus payouts on a regular basis.

Oh what a tangled web ...

[quahaug]

On one level I hate to get involved in this craziness but I can't stop myself. Rob also said he would never play triple bonus that pays two for three of a kind. Got a feeling Robs out hiking or something so we probably wont hear from Him for a while.

[Vegas_lover]

Sorry Alan but I disagree with you about this part of your latest post:

Regarding other observations about flashes and lines and suspicions about altering the photo -- I think we should put those aside until the one, simple look at this machine is made.

Why should we put anything aside? I see what I see and you all can see the same. Rob only shouts but doesn't clarify a whole lot and he should realize he has some explaining to do when his wins are so "off the chart". That one and simple look at this machine might be harder to arrange than expected. Which casino is it, where, what's the number of the machine and who will have the opportunity to check out the machine within a couple od days? Just saying.