When 7/5 Bonus Poker is BETTER than 8/5 Bonus Poker.

[Alan Mendelson]

If you are playing with a small edge then the faster you go the higher the win rate.

I understand the thinking but this is dangerous. I wonder if that "small edge" in video poker can really survive the variance of the game?

[jbjb]

I understand the thinking but this is dangerous. I wonder if that "small edge" in video poker can really survive the variance of the game?

Why do you think card counters want to play heads up with a fast dealer?

[redietz]

The "Stevie Wonder" guy I saw playing two machines at a combined 1700-1800 hands per hour was on FPDW for quarters at the Palms. Speed would matter on a game like that as long as you weren't making many mistakes. I didn't see many errors from him, but there was one every once in a while.

As for "small edges surviving variance," one would have to ask the casinos that to put reality in perspective, one would think.

[RS__]

I understand the thinking but this is dangerous. I wonder if that "small edge" in video poker can really survive the variance of the game?

Depends on the edge you're getting. Of course, playing a small edge on VP is risky, since variance is pretty high. And if you're playing with a small edge on VP, in my opinion, you shouldn't be focused on speed -- you should be focused on accuracy. I play fast, I know I give up some of my edge to the house because of this, but I'm OK with that, since I'm only playing if I get a pretty decent edge (at least 2-3%....but usually 5-9%).

[Dan Druff]

Depends on the edge you're getting. Of course, playing a small edge on VP is risky, since variance is pretty high. And if you're playing with a small edge on VP, in my opinion, you shouldn't be focused on speed -- you should be focused on accuracy. I play fast, I know I give up some of my edge to the house because of this, but I'm OK with that, since I'm only playing if I get a pretty decent edge (at least 2-3%....but usually 5-9%).

You're finding 5-9% edges in VP in the year 2015?

I doubt that.

[redietz]

You're finding 5-9% edges in VP in the year 2015?

I doubt that.

There's a special casino in South Dakota. You borrow from the loan shark who owns the place, pay 20% up front on the loan, then play with a 5-9% edge. I win there all the time. It's a shame you have to sign up again every day, and they're only open from 2 PM to 3 PM.

[jbjb]

You're finding 5-9% edges in VP in the year 2015?

I doubt that.

You have to look outside the box. Vulturing games are easy to get massive edges in. Just one triple play with all the having a 2x on a 96% game yields a 92% edge for the vultures if I'm not mistaken.

[Alan Mendelson]

You have to look outside the box. Vulturing games are easy to get massive edges in. Just one triple play with all the having a 2x on a 96% game yields a 92% edge for the vultures if I'm not mistaken.

If I'm not mistaken what you are talking about is walking around a casino looking for unused bonuses left on machines for a single play. Yes there are "players" who do this. I see them at Rincon all the time -- looking and walking and watching for players who get up from Ultimate X machines leaving a bonus.

It's a wonderful life, isn't it, being an AP these days?

[jbjb]

If I'm not mistaken what you are talking about is walking around a casino looking for unused bonuses left on machines for a single play. Yes there are "players" who do this. I see them at Rincon all the time -- looking and walking and watching for players who get up from Ultimate X machines leaving a bonus.

It's a wonderful life, isn't it, being an AP these days?

Location is going to matter. I just used that as an example of the edges that can be obtained from VP. If I see a play, I'll play it. But basically, I stick to table games. It's a matter of keeping your eyes open.

[RS__]

You're finding 5-9% edges in VP in the year 2015?

I doubt that.

Yes. And I'm not talking about ultimate x or something stupid like that either.

[arcimede$]

I understand the thinking but this is dangerous. I wonder if that "small edge" in video poker can really survive the variance of the game?

Variance is easily handled with a sufficient bankroll.