Big Casino Wins and Jackpots

[mickeycrimm]

blackhole and coach belly haven't chimed in with inciteful questions or gotchas.

What inconsistencies surrounding Singer's latest jackpot concern you?

The inconsistency is you not demanding that he put up proof like you do others. You know, the ones you are trying to "gotcha." But for some reason you never have wanted to "gotcha" Robocchio.

[redietz]

And who is Jerry Logan? Is it a Rob Singer sock puppet?

Logan was a Singer sock at WoV and maybe elsewhere years ago. Good reading if you are bored sometime, do a search over there. Typical Singer garbage from the early days of WoV. Same nonsense as here, unverifiable claims, etc.

Only time will cure the world of the Singer nonsense.

Not true boz. Jerry is a real person who was a student of mine. Obviously, whenever anyone says that--which he did when I posted at WoV--they jump all over them because they're rattled over me. And the narcissistic WoVers were rattled BIG TIME by my GT column back then.

I've never heard of redietz' reincarnation of that obscure forum that he is too dumb to link to properly. And if a poster with the JL handle posted there, it more than likely wasn't the real JL.

Since we can't link to it, what's this jackpot post all about anyway? Was it big or small, and what's the reason you're saying it wasn't "real"? Was it some obvious copy from the internet, a Photoshop job, or was it involved in the conspiracy theory nonsense or just more of the "it can't be real because we could never handle it if it were!" BS from the jealous haters?

BTW boz, have you ever ONCE asked for--or seen--proof or verification of said "winning" by any AP anywhere? And doesn't the fact that nearly all of these boastful posters are anonymous, make you even a tad bit uneasy when you take their word as gospel when you know nothing at all about any of them other than what they've asserted to you? And for a person like me, there's no way to supply someone like the fools here with "verifiable evidence" even if I took a pic of the tax form, me with the machine, and a pile of cash next to me. It just wouldn't satisfy you envious cowards, simply because you little people just wouldn't want it to be real. As I said, you guys are in the Adam Schiff Club, which should be a huge insult to someone like you.

Wise up.

It's good that Rob keeps internet tabs on the "real Jerry Logan," because if he didn't, how would we know that a dastardly Jerry Logan imposter had posted at lvadvice.com?

Coach, don't you think it's odd that Rob claims that a fake Jerry Logan must have been at lvadvice.com? Take your time, think it through.

Great idea -- why doesn't Jerry come on board at this forum and grace us with his experiences with Rob? We'd need it to be the "real Jerry Logan," of course, so as not to instigate a gotcha from coach. Second great idea -- let's have Jerry come on board, share his experiences, and post his driver's license, which is what Rob wanted me to do for three/four years here. Then coach would be able to rein in his doubts, and everybody could get to know each other.

I love it when a plan comes together.

[jbjb]

"Jerry Logan" is about as real as Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. Nothing but one of Robs made up personas to push his worthless systems. Wise up!

[coach belly]

The inconsistency is you not demanding that he put up proof like you do others.

Who has posted proof when I have asked before?

[coach belly]

Coach, don't you think it's odd that Rob claims that a fake Jerry Logan must have been at lvadvice.com

That's not Rob's claim.

[redietz]

Coach, don't you think it's odd that Rob claims that a fake Jerry Logan must have been at lvadvice.com

That's not Rob's claim.

"And if a poster with the JL handle posted there, it more than likely wasn't the real JL."

And the alternative meaning of this would be?

[mickeycrimm]

The video poker game in question, the $100 10/6 DDB, is in either Laughlin or Arizona. So it must be in Laughlin because Robocchio absolutely refuses to play in dirty filthy Indian casinos in Arizona where you will get cheated. Isn't that right, Robocchio?

Now, Robocchio says the game is advantage. Well, technically it is, 100.07%. But pretty thin. But Robocchio has told us for years that you can't win on these positive games. So why did he go against everything he has stood for for 20 years and play this game? I personally don't think he did but a pic of the W2-G would sure rub our noses in it.

[coach belly]

Coach, don't you think it's odd that Rob claims that a fake Jerry Logan must have been at lvadvice.com

That's not Rob's claim.

"And if a poster with the JL handle posted there, it more than likely wasn't the real JL."

And the alternative meaning of this would be?

I don't know about Jerry Logan, the whole Jerry Logan episode was before my time.

But Rob doesn't claim that a fake Jerry Logan must have been at lvadvice.com.

Rob's post above doesn't stipulate that any Jerry Logan posted on that site.

Now, back to my original question....

What inconsistencies surrounding Singer's latest jackpot concern you?

[coach belly]

But Robocchio has told us for years that you can't win on these positive games.

My recollection is that Rob has consistently told us that anyone can win on any commonly available VP games with any paytable, he certainly didn't exclude the possibility of winning on positive games.

If winning on a 100.07 game is possible, then so is winning on a 99.17 game.

Isn't that what he's been saying all along?

[redietz]

The video poker game in question, the $100 10/6 DDB, is in either Laughlin or Arizona. So it must be in Laughlin because Robocchio absolutely refuses to play in dirty filthy Indian casinos in Arizona where you will get cheated. Isn't that right, Robocchio?

Now, Robocchio says the game is advantage. Well, technically it is, 100.07%. But pretty thin. But Robocchio has told us for years that you can't win on these positive games. So why did he go against everything he has stood for for 20 years and play this game? I personally don't think he did but a pic of the W2-G would sure rub our noses in it.

The story as presented:

1) Rob, who has spent thousands of posts claiming his systems are the way to play, has not played high stakes video poker for a very long time.
2) Rob decides one day to plunk down a 20K investment to take a shot at a marginally positive video poker game after not playing at these stakes for a long time.
3) Rob decides, for some reason, to not use his strategies as laid out in thousands of posts across many forums. He decides it's "recreational" time as he plunks down the 20K. Therefore he does not start at $1 or $2 stakes.
4) Rob hits the four aces in a brief period of time (at $500 a spin, 20K's not lasting too long), thereby making a neat 200K profit.
5) Rob takes his winnings in cash. There's no check to photograph, although there should be one helluva W2G. Also no pic of the cash or Rob's smiling face with the jackpot. Of course, the casino in question decided they wouldn't use Rob's posing with the check/cash as advertising because what casino does that?

I'm sure blackhole and coach belly are chomping at the bit to ask all of the appropriate questions.

Hey coach, why don't YOU ask Rob if he knows the Jerry Logan who posted on lvadvice.com? That should clarify things, eh?

[coach belly]

Hey coach, why don't YOU ask Rob if he knows the Jerry Logan who posted on lvadvice.com?

Rob would have to be familiar with lvadvice.com, and have read the Jerry Logan posts there, in order to answer that question.

I used your link and couldn't locate any Jerry Logan posts, so I don't know what you are talking about.

Please copy and paste the post(s) you reference above.

[Rob.Singer]

The video poker game in question, the $100 10/6 DDB, is in either Laughlin or Arizona. So it must be in Laughlin because Robocchio absolutely refuses to play in dirty filthy Indian casinos in Arizona where you will get cheated. Isn't that right, Robocchio?

Now, Robocchio says the game is advantage. Well, technically it is, 100.07%. But pretty thin. But Robocchio has told us for years that you can't win on these positive games. So why did he go against everything he has stood for for 20 years and play this game? I personally don't think he did but a pic of the W2-G would sure rub our noses in it.

The story as presented:

1) Rob, who has spent thousands of posts claiming his systems are the way to play, has not played high stakes video poker for a very long time.
2) Rob decides one day to plunk down a 20K investment to take a shot at a marginally positive video poker game after not playing at these stakes for a long time.
3) Rob decides, for some reason, to not use his strategies as laid out in thousands of posts across many forums. He decides it's "recreational" time as he plunks down the 20K. Therefore he does not start at $1 or $2 stakes.
4) Rob hits the four aces in a brief period of time (at $500 a spin, 20K's not lasting too long), thereby making a neat 200K profit.
5) Rob takes his winnings in cash. There's no check to photograph, although there should be one helluva W2G. Also no pic of the cash or Rob's smiling face with the jackpot. Of course, the casino in question decided they wouldn't use Rob's posing with the check/cash as advertising because what casino does that?

I'm sure blackhole and coach belly are chomping at the bit to ask all of the appropriate questions.

Hey coach, why don't YOU ask Rob if he knows the Jerry Logan who posted on lvadvice.com? That should clarify things, eh?

Red, you need to get over it. It's clear you're going to be forever furious over my hitting this. But this is just advice. I'm enjoying your P-A-I-N....especially since you're undoubtedly "chomping at the bit" holding back soliciting me again to help finance your sportsbetting habit.

I've NEVER had any casino take my picture taken with any jackpot. Most ask, and a savvy player just says no.

Understandable that you're bothered by the fact that I hit this thing in maybe 15 minutes of play, which included waiting for the first $1500 "jackpot" to be paid separately and setting up of the machine W2G attendant. It certainly WAS fast, efficient work. If this still bothers you, I suggest you try telling yourself what jbjb always tells himself when it comes to Alan & myself's big wins as a way to deal with the very unsettling dumbfoundedness: POST THAT YOU KNOW I LOST ALL OF IT AND MORE BEFORE HITTING IT--OR WILL EVENTUALLY! He gets instant relief from that lie every time. The only problem is, this time he got exposed once again as just another armchair AP when he erroneously said it was a -EV game I was playing. Combine that with his lack of knowledge about free play and what do you have??

I see you're coyly still trying to get a location on the casino. Not gonna happen, even if you're one of these "sleuths". Right now I believe this is MY play, except for a few big-playing tourists that may happen upon it. I've taken steps to keep it private, at least until I go in to play it again with another $20k for another minimum $3k stop-play profit. We'll be here at our first RV park N. of the Phx. area for a few weeks and I plan on shooting over to LV soon. Yes I'll give a report.

This lvadvice forum you're all excited about? I couldn't find anything about the banning of "JL" for faking a jackpot or whatever you said. What year was it?

[kewlJ]

I find it so weird when I encounter someone like Singer on these forums. Someone making outlandish claims and having this weird need to be someone they are not. And to go to the extreme of the sockpuppetry that he goes to, making up people to vouch for him and sing his praises. I am sure that is some kind of mental deficiency or void but it is just weird to me.

Now I know he will fire back saying similar things about me. I do make some claims as part of sharing my experiences. But I don't have this goofy need to make people believe. And while I have used a couple sockpuppets to return to forums that I was banned usually to post something specific and usually intentionally obvious with a similar name, I have never even considered this nonsense that these sockpuppet people like Singer and Moses do, creating not just sock puppets, but alternative personalities. One of Moses sock's here is a female for god sakes. THIS isn't normal.

The bottom line is like I always say, it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. And while the use of sockpuppets for false credibility "muddies" that process, it doesn't change it, only prolongs it. Sooner or later the person proves themselves to just be talking.

And while I myself have a few haters, some that follow me to different sites, there hate and attacks on me almost always turn out to be about some sort of personal issue rather than the math and these people always turn out to be non-AP's that can't even recognize the math. Because my math adds up. Like me. Hate me. My math adds up. For good reason.

But keep going Argentino/Singer. I suppose you will go to your grave continuing to perpetuate this little farce that now only 2 or 3 people still believe, and I don't even thing those 2-3 even really believe anymore. It is just all really weirdness!

[mickeycrimm]

The video poker game in question, the $100 10/6 DDB, is in either Laughlin or Arizona. So it must be in Laughlin because Robocchio absolutely refuses to play in dirty filthy Indian casinos in Arizona where you will get cheated. Isn't that right, Robocchio?

Now, Robocchio says the game is advantage. Well, technically it is, 100.07%. But pretty thin. But Robocchio has told us for years that you can't win on these positive games. So why did he go against everything he has stood for for 20 years and play this game? I personally don't think he did but a pic of the W2-G would sure rub our noses in it.

The story as presented:

1) Rob, who has spent thousands of posts claiming his systems are the way to play, has not played high stakes video poker for a very long time.
2) Rob decides one day to plunk down a 20K investment to take a shot at a marginally positive video poker game after not playing at these stakes for a long time.
3) Rob decides, for some reason, to not use his strategies as laid out in thousands of posts across many forums. He decides it's "recreational" time as he plunks down the 20K. Therefore he does not start at $1 or $2 stakes.
4) Rob hits the four aces in a brief period of time (at $500 a spin, 20K's not lasting too long), thereby making a neat 200K profit.
5) Rob takes his winnings in cash. There's no check to photograph, although there should be one helluva W2G. Also no pic of the cash or Rob's smiling face with the jackpot. Of course, the casino in question decided they wouldn't use Rob's posing with the check/cash as advertising because what casino does that?

I'm sure blackhole and coach belly are chomping at the bit to ask all of the appropriate questions.

Hey coach, why don't YOU ask Rob if he knows the Jerry Logan who posted on lvadvice.com? That should clarify things, eh?

Red, you need to get over it. It's clear you're going to be forever furious over my hitting this. But this is just advice. I'm enjoying your P-A-I-N....especially since you're undoubtedly "chomping at the bit" holding back soliciting me again to help finance your sportsbetting habit.

I've NEVER had any casino take my picture taken with any jackpot. Most ask, and a savvy player just says no.

Understandable that you're bothered by the fact that I hit this thing in maybe 15 minutes of play, which included waiting for the first $1500 "jackpot" to be paid separately and setting up of the machine W2G attendant. It certainly WAS fast, efficient work. If this still bothers you, I suggest you try telling yourself what jbjb always tells himself when it comes to Alan & myself's big wins as a way to deal with the very unsettling dumbfoundedness: POST THAT YOU KNOW I LOST ALL OF IT AND MORE BEFORE HITTING IT--OR WILL EVENTUALLY! He gets instant relief from that lie every time. The only problem is, this time he got exposed once again as just another armchair AP when he erroneously said it was a -EV game I was playing. Combine that with his lack of knowledge about free play and what do you have??

I see you're coyly still trying to get a location on the casino. Not gonna happen, even if you're one of these "sleuths". Right now I believe this is MY play, except for a few big-playing tourists that may happen upon it. I've taken steps to keep it private, at least until I go in to play it again with another $20k for another minimum $3k stop-play profit. We'll be here at our first RV park N. of the Phx. area for a few weeks and I plan on shooting over to LV soon. Yes I'll give a report.

This lvadvice forum you're all excited about? I couldn't find anything about the banning of "JL" for faking a jackpot or whatever you said. What year was it?

Robocchio, you don't have to worry about an invasion of players. To play the game properly you need something you don't have, at least a $2,000,000 bankroll. No one cares where it's at. Only you. So pot shot to your hearts content. Go ahead and do everything you've been saying for years you don't do. And we won't be hearing about your losing plays on it, will we? You're as phony as a three dollar bill, Robocchio.

[The Boz]

So to believe this story, we have to accept Singer just decided to throw $20k at this gane on a whim because it’s slightly positive. And he happened to get lucky and hit. And went against everything he preached for years.

Only truth is none of us, including Alan, will EVER see any proof that this happened. That is the Lock of Century.

Meanwhile Robbo is the center of attention again, happy as can be, and we are all pawns in his fantasy world for playing along.

Well played Singer. Only issue is what is the encore?

[Rob.Singer]

Wrong. I decided to throw 200 credits at this because the last time I saw a +EV $100 machine it was on 10/7 dbp at the Atlantis Reno in the early 2000's. And if you recall, I no longer play my strategy because I gamble recreationally these days. As I have always said, I always play the best pay tables available. Show me one better than this....oh that's right, you penny-ante AP's have no clue where anything over dollars like this or higher might be. And I seem to recall all you "AP's" moaning and groaning over how anyone who plays -EV games will always lose. So I jump on a hi-limit +EV opportunity that few others anywhere can afford to play, get super lucky in short order, and you're left with what??--that it's not my win, or I probably LOST or WILL LOSE all that I've won and more? Is that what AP's do? Can you spell HYPOCRITICAL!

What actually constitutes "proof" to you? Are these forums inundated with $100 vp jackpots, so much so that heads spin and so much "proof" accompanies them that no one could possibly keep track of duplicate postings? Did I Photoshop this in from a quarter or dollar machine somehow? Why don't you guys ask your wives (those who have them of course--which isn't many) to take a look. They never got a chance to see my package so at least afford them this luxury and see if it's real enuf to them or not.

I'm still contemplating posting the tax form since I have it with me. What'll that do for the "I hope he really didn't hit it" crowd--will it create apologies, or will this evolve into "it's a fake too" Adam Schiff-type buffoonery?

[The Boz]

Can’t answer for others but I’ll apologize and congratulate you on the win if you post it.

But it will be for having the bankroll to play it and getting lucky, not for it being a good bet.

[Rob.Singer]

I understand. But why was it not a good bet? It was +EV, albeit not by much. But it is better than just about everything else I have found over the years and have been criticized for playing.

I consider ANY VP win to be a product of good luck. You never know what's gonna pop up on the draw or the deal. This hand isn't all that hard to come by with holding two Aces. Happens a lot at casinos everywhere everyday. Just think about it--a lousy four of a kind paying $200,000 by betting just $500. And if I were playing what I usually play--TDBP--my payoff would have been $400k. Problem was, that game was just slightly under 100%. One of the reasons I'm the best player ever, intelligence-wise, to ever come down the video poker pike.

[slingshot]

I have NO problem with this and as a matter of fact it reinforces one of my modifications to Rob's strategies. I've hit this hand (on quarters) at least 3 times by scoping machines where other players just finished playing AP style on bonus poker. I merely switch to ddbp because to my thinking WAY more than 100 credits have been played on bp and all I'm doing is merely completing the rest of the strategy. Several times the quads came quickly. Like I say-I do play modified versions of his strategies that I developed by just using common sense.

[The Boz]

I have NO problem with this and as a matter of fact it reinforces one of my modifications to Rob's strategies. I've hit this hand (on quarters) at least 3 times by scoping machines where other players just finished playing AP style on bonus poker. I merely switch to ddbp because to my thinking WAY more than 100 credits have been played on bp and all I'm doing is merely completing the rest of the strategy. Several times the quads came quickly. Like I say-I do play modified versions of his strategies that I developed by just using common sense.

Perhaps the stupidest thing ever posted on here. And that is saying a lot.

I’ll correct that, it IS the stupidest thing ever posted on here.

You sir, are a fucking idiot and common sense is embarrassed to have been associated with you.