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  1. #81
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Mr. redeitz; I've found being a school teacher and an administrator of an alternative living facility to be very rewarding professions. It's not all about money. Forgive me sir. But I've witnessed hundreds of people during their final days. For them, it's NEVER about the money.

    KJ. What the world are you so upset about? You're a homeowner. Make 6 figures a year playing a game. Would you listen to yourself? Clearly you lack debate skills. So what? IF this forum stuff upsets you so much, why do you keep coming back for more?
    What a surprise! Moses and his alternative personalities is here. No surprise because you just posted over at the loony bin, but because no one gives a shit and no one responds, you and all the different crazies up in your head, just had to come here to get the attention you want.

    Debate skills. You sound like freaking LarryS. I am not here to debate. This is supposed to be a gambling/las vegas forum, not the debate team that you nerds were on in Jr High school. Grow the fuck up ass wipes.

  2. #82
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Mr. redeitz; I've found being a school teacher and an administrator of an alternative living facility to be very rewarding professions. It's not all about money. Forgive me sir. But I've witnessed hundreds of people during their final days. For them, it's NEVER about the money.

    KJ. What in the world are you so upset about? You're a homeowner. Make 6 figures a year playing a game. Would you listen to yourself? Clearly you lack debate skills. So what? IF this forum stuff upsets you so much, why do you keep coming back for more?
    UCFX, I'm not saying anything is about the money. I'm saying it's the height of hubris for a person to think that they can put a "value to society" on this or that use of time and energy. You have to be a real narcissist to think you've solved some equation that designates "value to society," good or bad. First of all, there's not some single "society." Of course someone who thinks they know what's valuable and what's not is probably the same dude who thinks that their "society" is THE "society."

  3. #83
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    What a surprise! Moses and his alternative personalities is here. No surprise because you just posted over at the loony bin, but because no one gives a shit and no one responds, you and all the different crazies up in your head, just had to come here to get the attention you want..
    Off course I read what Moses wrote. Doesn't everyone? That's is what brought me here for a looksee.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Debate skills. You sound like freaking LarryS. I am not here to debate. This is supposed to be a gambling/las vegas forum, not the debate team that you nerds were on in Jr High school..
    It seems your great with nasty words, but not to keen on backing them up, from what I've read. Dan should really have you and a few others simply write out what you expect from a forum and then simply submit to your demands.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Grow the fuck up ass wipes.
    IT that anyway to talk? You're suppose to be grown man.

  4. #84
    Originally Posted by UCFX View Post
    Off course I read what Moses wrote. Doesn't everyone? That's is what brought me here for a looksee.


    It seems your great with nasty words, but not to keen on backing them up, from what I've read. Dan should really have you and a few others simply write out what you expect from a forum and then simply submit to your demands.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Grow the fuck up ass wipes.
    IT that anyway to talk? You're suppose to be grown man.
    Fuck off and die Moses, you homeless crazy ass piece of shit.

  5. #85
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    UCFX, I'm not saying anything is about the money.
    I didn't think so. But thanks for clarifying.

    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I'm saying it's the height of hubris for a person to think that they can put a "value to society" on this or that use of time and energy. You have to be a real narcissist to think you've solved some equation that designates "value to society," good or bad..
    Moses, for example, no longer contributes to society IMO. I do not think card counters or sports bettors are a value to society. Just my opinion. But it is legal. So who am I to have a voice? I'm just saying at the end of the day...

    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    First of all, there's not some single "society." Of course someone who thinks they know what's valuable and what's not is probably the same dude who thinks that their "society" is THE "society."
    Had to read this a couple of times. But I think I like what you said. Would "it is what it is" be a fair summation?

  6. #86
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Fuck off and die Moses, you homeless crazy ass piece of shit.
    Man to man those type of words would lead to hostilities. We know that isn't what you're about. I'm a lady. Hope you can get some help KJ.

  7. #87
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Bob21, it's great that you feel your opinions have some value and should be shared with an audience. Not everyone agrees with that. Maybe starting a fan club would be a preferable way to go.

    Perhaps you could also occasionally check the price of the Ellis Island steak special and post it here every once in awhile, just to break the string of opinions, morality speculation, and "being honest." Some useful actionable information would be a real surprise, and since real information would not be an opinion with which others could disagree, you would not have to worry about being labeled a troll.

    P.S. If it would help cut down on opinion posts, I will be happy to volunteer to be president of your fan club. Put together a few of your favorite lines, "APs -- Not Noble," "I Know Why Casinos Exist -- Ask Me," or maybe, "Opinions Are Like Assholes -- Sniff Mine," and we'll get some stationery printed up. I will, however, need your real name. Fan clubs for pseudonyms make for problematic tax deductions.
    Let’s cut to the chase redietz. What is “noble” about being an AP? I did not make this claim. Tommy Hyland made this claim. He said being a card counter is the most “noble” thing someone can do. If someone makes that claim don’t you think they should explain why they believe this?

    Since you seem to support Tommy Hyland's beliefs, can you explain to me how being an AP is more “noble” than anything else someone can do? This has nothing to do with being a troll. Hope you can help me here. Thanks!

  8. #88
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Bob21, it's great that you feel your opinions have some value and should be shared with an audience. Not everyone agrees with that. Maybe starting a fan club would be a preferable way to go.

    Perhaps you could also occasionally check the price of the Ellis Island steak special and post it here every once in awhile, just to break the string of opinions, morality speculation, and "being honest." Some useful actionable information would be a real surprise, and since real information would not be an opinion with which others could disagree, you would not have to worry about being labeled a troll.

    P.S. If it would help cut down on opinion posts, I will be happy to volunteer to be president of your fan club. Put together a few of your favorite lines, "APs -- Not Noble," "I Know Why Casinos Exist -- Ask Me," or maybe, "Opinions Are Like Assholes -- Sniff Mine," and we'll get some stationery printed up. I will, however, need your real name. Fan clubs for pseudonyms make for problematic tax deductions.
    Let’s cut to the chase redietz. What is “noble” about being an AP? I did not make this claim. Tommy Hyland made this claim. He said being a card counter is the most “noble” thing someone can do. If someone makes that claim don’t you think they should explain why they believe this?

    Since you seem to support Tommy Hyland's beliefs, can you explain to me how being an AP is more “noble” than anything else someone can do? This has nothing to do with being a troll. Hope you can help me here. Thanks!
    Shut the fuck up Bob21, you piece of shit! For the hundredth time, no one cares about this discussion or your opinion!

  9. #89
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Bob21, it's great that you feel your opinions have some value and should be shared with an audience. Not everyone agrees with that. Maybe starting a fan club would be a preferable way to go.

    Perhaps you could also occasionally check the price of the Ellis Island steak special and post it here every once in awhile, just to break the string of opinions, morality speculation, and "being honest." Some useful actionable information would be a real surprise, and since real information would not be an opinion with which others could disagree, you would not have to worry about being labeled a troll.

    P.S. If it would help cut down on opinion posts, I will be happy to volunteer to be president of your fan club. Put together a few of your favorite lines, "APs -- Not Noble," "I Know Why Casinos Exist -- Ask Me," or maybe, "Opinions Are Like Assholes -- Sniff Mine," and we'll get some stationery printed up. I will, however, need your real name. Fan clubs for pseudonyms make for problematic tax deductions.
    Let’s cut to the chase redietz. What is “noble” about being an AP? I did not make this claim. Tommy Hyland made this claim. He said being a card counter is the most “noble” thing someone can do. If someone makes that claim don’t you think they should explain why they believe this?

    Since you seem to support Tommy Hyland's beliefs, can you explain to me how being an AP is more “noble” than anything else someone can do? This has nothing to do with being a troll. Hope you can help me here. Thanks!
    I'm a big fan, Bob21, so I don't want you misinterpreting me. I have no idea how you can say I support Tommy Hyland's beliefs when I never wrote one word about Tommy Hyland's beliefs. See, Bob21, this is why you get that "troll" label. You make up stuff for the sake of argument. But I'm your biggest fan, so don't count me in, unless you see where I wrote something about agreeing with Tommy Hyland. I never did -- unless you have access to alternate realities, which would explain how you're so sure about your opinions. You must see everything, like Dr. Strange.

    I don't agree or disagree with Tommy Hyland. Maybe he considers it a noble endeavor in the same way that Bonnie and Clyde were engaged in a countercultural statement. Or maybe they were just psycho bank robbers. I have no idea, and frankly, I'd rather sit here and debate number of angels on the head of a pin or what color my farts would be in UV light.

    I think it's hilarious that you think you can rate people by their noble doings or lack thereof. But I'm still a big fan. So if you want "APs -- Not Noble" on the fan club stationery, so be it. I prefer "I Know Why Casinos Exist -- Ask Me," but I defer to you.

  10. #90
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Shut the fuck up Bob21, you piece of shit! For the hundredth time, no one cares about this discussion or your opinion!
    O my! Such tough talk. Did you throw something like a candle? At least he got the Alan bashing to stop.

    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Alan has told me that he no longer wishes to participate in VegasCasinoTalk, which is fine.

    I have disabled his account, at his request.

    Now that he's gone, please cease bashing him, as he's no longer going to be part of the discussion here.

    Thank you.
    Still here we are...90 posts later from what should've been 1 post.
    Last edited by UCFX; 04-11-2019 at 12:19 PM.

  11. #91
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Shut the fuck up Bob21, you piece of shit! For the hundredth time, no one cares about this discussion or your opinion!
    Yet you keep giving him the attention he needs and craves. He's smiling at the mayhem he's made.

    Everyone else figured out he's a worthless troll who isn't worth conversing with. Why can't you?

  12. #92
    Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Shut the fuck up Bob21, you piece of shit! For the hundredth time, no one cares about this discussion or your opinion!
    Yet you keep giving him the attention he needs and craves. He's smiling at the mayhem he's made.

    Everyone else figured out he's a worthless troll who isn't worth conversing with. Why can't you?

    LMAO Very perceptive. Ironic the OP, by the administrator, ask everyone to remain quiet. They didn't. According to KJ, "if everyone would just shut up and believe/agree with me, we could have a nice forum." Anyone who disagrees with KJ is a TROLL. He spells it in caps when he's mad. lol

    So a question Mr. Spock. Is this forum to be run by Dan or by what KJ wants to talk about which is KJ? It seems the words "remain silent" wouldn't be conducive to a forums objectivity. However, you do have a valid point.

  13. #93
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I myself am not a fan of the BJHoF. Never have been. And the fact that I was approached earlier this year about possible future membership, hasn't changed that. I respect the people and their achievements but don't need a clubhouse to pat each other on the back.
    Are you serious kj? You’ve been approached by the BJ Hall of Fame group to become a member? That would really bring credibliliy to this group. Lol

    When you say you respect “the people and their achievements” in the HOF does that include how this exhibit has attracted more ploppies to Borna so Borna can extract more money from them, or are you more impressed with how much money they’ve extracted from casinos with their AP activities?

    Because the Blackjack Hall of Fame members have done two things: 1) they’ve extracted money from casinos via AP activities and 2) they’ve helped the casinos (specifically Borna) extract money from ploppies via the Hall of Fame? Which accomplish is the most impressive in your book?

    I’m not the only person that has pointed this out. I’ve heard this from others too.

  14. #94
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    I'm a big fan, Bob21, so I don't want you misinterpreting me. I have no idea how you can say I support Tommy Hyland's beliefs when I never wrote one word about Tommy Hyland's beliefs. See, Bob21, this is why you get that "troll" label. You make up stuff for the sake of argument. But I'm your biggest fan, so don't count me in, unless you see where I wrote something about agreeing with Tommy Hyland. I never did -- unless you have access to alternate realities, which would explain how you're so sure about your opinions. You must see everything, like Dr. Strange.

    I don't agree or disagree with Tommy Hyland. Maybe he considers it a noble endeavor in the same way that Bonnie and Clyde were engaged in a countercultural statement. Or maybe they were just psycho bank robbers. I have no idea, and frankly, I'd rather sit here and debate number of angels on the head of a pin or what color my farts would be in UV light.

    I think it's hilarious that you think you can rate people by their noble doings or lack thereof. But I'm still a big fan. So if you want "APs -- Not Noble" on the fan club stationery, so be it. I prefer "I Know Why Casinos Exist -- Ask Me," but I defer to you.
    For whatever reason Bob21 keeps writing I'm upset about failing his class. Like yourself, I never wrote a word about whatever he decides he wants to argue against (being upset for failing his class in my case). First off I really don't care if has a class and I could care less if I failed it. Bob21 will keep making shit up no matter what the response.
    Last edited by tableplay; 04-11-2019 at 02:38 PM.

  15. #95
    Blob21,I have two tough questions for you.

    1 Should there be a hall of fame for outstanding casino executives? Although just like the blackjack HOF selective decisions made on certain entrants becomes subjective. Starting with question #2 "provided someone actually started and implimented such a HOF"

    2 In your opinion would Bill Zender deserve the recognition to be elected? He worked his way up the ladder from a former Nevada Gaming Control Agent, all the way to Director Of Casino Operations and part owner of the Aladdin Hotel. His notoriety started when he instructed all floor managers to deal the shoes "with GREAT rules" almost to the bottom with the theory of watching out for the heavy hitters but letting the small card counters nickel and dime them. Subsequently, large crowds showed up encluding thousands of ploppies and the results greatly exceeded expectations. Everyone was happy, profits soared through the roof, and most of the card counters quickly learned tolerance levels. Zender was the only one with the balls to take the shot.
    Last edited by BoSox; 04-11-2019 at 03:09 PM.

  16. #96
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    I'm a big fan, Bob21, so I don't want you misinterpreting me. I have no idea how you can say I support Tommy Hyland's beliefs when I never wrote one word about Tommy Hyland's beliefs. See, Bob21, this is why you get that "troll" label. You make up stuff for the sake of argument. But I'm your biggest fan, so don't count me in, unless you see where I wrote something about agreeing with Tommy Hyland. I never did -- unless you have access to alternate realities, which would explain how you're so sure about your opinions. You must see everything, like Dr. Strange.

    I don't agree or disagree with Tommy Hyland. Maybe he considers it a noble endeavor in the same way that Bonnie and Clyde were engaged in a countercultural statement. Or maybe they were just psycho bank robbers. I have no idea, and frankly, I'd rather sit here and debate number of angels on the head of a pin or what color my farts would be in UV light.

    I think it's hilarious that you think you can rate people by their noble doings or lack thereof. But I'm still a big fan. So if you want "APs -- Not Noble" on the fan club stationery, so be it. I prefer "I Know Why Casinos Exist -- Ask Me," but I defer to you.
    For whatever reason Bob21 keeps writing I'm upset about failing his class. Like yourself, I never wrote a word about whatever he decides he wants to argue against (being upset for failing his class in my case). First off I really don't care if has a class and I could care less if I failed it. Bob21 will keep making shit up no matter what the response.
    I don't understand his "failed class" references. TBH I don't read most of his posts, at least the longer ones....although I guess that goes for most people, unless it's an interesting subject. Does he actually teach classes or something?
    #FreeTyde

  17. #97
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post

    I'm a big fan, Bob21, so I don't want you misinterpreting me. I have no idea how you can say I support Tommy Hyland's beliefs when I never wrote one word about Tommy Hyland's beliefs. See, Bob21, this is why you get that "troll" label. You make up stuff for the sake of argument. But I'm your biggest fan, so don't count me in, unless you see where I wrote something about agreeing with Tommy Hyland. I never did -- unless you have access to alternate realities, which would explain how you're so sure about your opinions. You must see everything, like Dr. Strange.

    I don't agree or disagree with Tommy Hyland. Maybe he considers it a noble endeavor in the same way that Bonnie and Clyde were engaged in a countercultural statement. Or maybe they were just psycho bank robbers. I have no idea, and frankly, I'd rather sit here and debate number of angels on the head of a pin or what color my farts would be in UV light.

    I think it's hilarious that you think you can rate people by their noble doings or lack thereof. But I'm still a big fan. So if you want "APs -- Not Noble" on the fan club stationery, so be it. I prefer "I Know Why Casinos Exist -- Ask Me," but I defer to you.
    For whatever reason Bob21 keeps writing I'm upset about failing his class. Like yourself, I never wrote a word about whatever he decides he wants to argue against (being upset for failing his class in my case). First off I really don't care if has a class and I could care less if I failed it. Bob21 will keep making shit up no matter what the response.
    I don't understand his "failed class" references. TBH I don't read most of his posts, at least the longer ones....although I guess that goes for most people, unless it's an interesting subject. Does he actually teach classes or something?
    For all the people who don’t care about my posts, I sure do get a lot of responses.

    Okay, I hate to beat a “dead horse”, but since you asked and haven’t kept up, here is the question I asked Tableplay:

    What is the primary reason governments (local and state) approve casinos? Basically why are casinos alllowed to operate?

    And tableplay answered this question by saying for the interest of casinos....basically to make casino owners wealthy.

    Obviously, this was a stupid and incorrect answer so I had to flunk him. I felt bad about it but there was no way I could pass him with that answer.

    The correct answer is governments approve casinos to generate economic activity, which generates tax revenue for state and local governments. Casinos operate FIRST because governments allow them to operate. Governments primary interest in allowing casinos into their states and local comminites is NOT because they want casino companies to get rich, which is what tableplay thinks.

    I want people to know that because tableplay kept trying, and I could tell he was slowly getting it, I did end up passing him with a C-. And he’ll get first crack at my next question/class so he can redeem himself. So there is hope for him.

    I’ll also be giving him a discount on my next bootcamp for APs. I hear there is more money to be made in bootcamps than counting cards.

  18. #98
    Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Shut the fuck up Bob21, you piece of shit! For the hundredth time, no one cares about this discussion or your opinion!
    Yet you keep giving him the attention he needs and craves. He's smiling at the mayhem he's made.

    Everyone else figured out he's a worthless troll who isn't worth conversing with. Why can't you?
    Hey Spock, this is where you don’t get it. It’s wasn't just kwelj that responded to me....I had 5 different people respond to my posts today, including you. My posts are like stirring up a hornets nest. This forum went on overdrive for a couple hours once I posted.

    Here’s something you, your kj buddy and many others don’t get. Moses gets it and has said it many times. There is NO such thing as an AP community or AP way of thinking, or an AP code of conduct manual. APs are individual so they all think differently.

    This is how I can tell the AP community, in general, is basically liberal. Liberals think like this. For example, they think all blacks think alike...that there is a black point of view. I’m a conservative so I don’t think like this. I know blacks have different views, just like all races. A color doesn’t define how you think.

    Now here’s a newsflash for you: All APs don’t think the same. There is not an AP community. Yes, there are pockets of APs that hang out together and might have similar thoughts, but this doesn’t mean they speak for all APs.

    I’m an AP and I can tell you no other AP speaks for me. I’m an independent thinker. As for kj, I’m sure he thinks whatever someone he looks up to thinks. Kj hasn’t matured enough to have any independent thoughts. He’s good at calling people names when he gets upset (which is most the time) so at least he’s developed that skill set. Now he needs to learn how to become more mature and think on his own. Lol

  19. #99
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    For whatever reason Bob21 keeps writing I'm upset about failing his class. Like yourself, I never wrote a word about whatever he decides he wants to argue against (being upset for failing his class in my case). First off I really don't care if has a class and I could care less if I failed it. Bob21 will keep making shit up no matter what the response.
    I don't understand his "failed class" references. TBH I don't read most of his posts, at least the longer ones....although I guess that goes for most people, unless it's an interesting subject. Does he actually teach classes or something?
    For all the people who don’t care about my posts, I sure do get a lot of responses.

    Okay, I hate to beat a “dead horse”, but since you asked and haven’t kept up, here is the question I asked Tableplay:

    What is the primary reason governments (local and state) approve casinos? Basically why are casinos alllowed to operate?

    And tableplay answered this question by saying for the interest of casinos....basically to make casino owners wealthy.

    Obviously, this was a stupid and incorrect answer so I had to flunk him. I felt bad about it but there was no way I could pass him with that answer.

    The correct answer is governments approve casinos to generate economic activity, which generates tax revenue for state and local governments. Casinos operate FIRST because governments allow them to operate. Governments primary interest in allowing casinos into their states and local comminites is NOT because they want casino companies to get rich, which is what tableplay thinks.

    I want people to know that because tableplay kept trying, and I could tell he was slowly getting it, I did end up passing him with a C-. And he’ll get first crack at my next question/class so he can redeem himself. So there is hope for him.

    I’ll also be giving him a discount on my next bootcamp for APs. I hear there is more money to be made in bootcamps than counting cards.
    You get responses for the same reason people shoo flies. You're an idiot beyond comprehension and it's funny you think your Tard ass is smart. You're dumber than a box of Alan wrenches. A total fuckin BobKnob.
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  20. #100
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    You're dumber than a box of Alan wrenches.
    Very clever MAxPen. So Alan has wrenches name after him?

    What about Singer? Here is a riddle for you. What is the difference between a baby and an Opera Director?

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