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  1. #61
    Are "hot shooters" big titters?

    Just askin'.
    What, Me Worry?

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Tableplay that's $50 a day. Okay and nothing wrong with that.
    Yes, but it's for about 4 hours of work, and not every day of the month. As has been mentioned before, right now the various slot manufacturers are coming out with a lot of different stuff you can hop on to when the machine is at a mathematical advantage, so it's a good time to be involved in this stuff. Basically you don't have to be a James Grosjean to make money in today's casino environment.

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And you spout the same BS: APs don't lose.
    And you continue to spew Bullshit about people constantly winning at Craps. And garbage about “Hot Shooters”.

    Which is more believable?

    I know, you don’t believe in math, only luck.
    When did I ever say this? When did I ever talk about anyone constantly winning at craps or hot shooters winning at craps?

    Should I call you a liar now or after you respond with more bullshit?

    But first let's review what I posted:

    I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    Is that any less believeable than winning on a -EV slot machine called Golden Egypt which probably has a payback of 85-percent?
    Your highlighted section tells it all. So you are saying there are people winning $36500 a year ($36600 in a leap year) playing hot shooters on craps. I rest my case.

    But again, why are they not betting table max on hot shooters?
    Maybe they are making $36,000 a year... you should ask them. I'm not at Red Rock every day and I don't know what they do with that hundred bucks or so when they leave the craps pit. For all I know they lose it playing the Golden Egypt slots or blackjack.

    All I can tell you is some regulars hang out at the tables and when the time is right they make a couple of bets, take a win or two, and leave. You got a problem with that?

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And you spout the same BS: APs don't lose.
    And you continue to spew Bullshit about people constantly winning at Craps. And garbage about “Hot Shooters”.

    Which is more believable?

    I know, you don’t believe in math, only luck.
    When did I ever say this? When did I ever talk about anyone constantly winning at craps or hot shooters winning at craps?

    Should I call you a liar now or after you respond with more bullshit?

    But first let's review what I posted:

    I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    Is that any less believeable than winning on a -EV slot machine called Golden Egypt which probably has a payback of 85-percent?
    Your highlighted section tells it all. So you are saying there are people winning $36500 a year ($36600 in a leap year) playing hot shooters on craps. I rest my case.

    But again, why are they not betting table max on hot shooters?
    Maybe they are making $36,000 a year... you should ask them. I'm not at Red Rock every day and I don't know what they do with that hundred bucks or so when they leave the craps pit. For all I know they lose it playing the Golden Egypt slots or blackjack.

    All I can tell you is some regulars hang out at the tables and when the time is right they make a couple of bets, take a win or two, and leave. You got a problem with that?
    The ol' stop win/stop loss. Nothing wrong with that for negative expectation gamblers. Anything that takes them out of action saves them money.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    And you spout the same BS: APs don't lose.
    And you continue to spew Bullshit about people constantly winning at Craps. And garbage about “Hot Shooters”.

    Which is more believable?

    I know, you don’t believe in math, only luck.
    When did I ever say this? When did I ever talk about anyone constantly winning at craps or hot shooters winning at craps?

    Should I call you a liar now or after you respond with more bullshit?

    But first let's review what I posted:

    I know "regulars" at Red Rock who stand at the craps table and will jump on a shooter's hot roll who cash out $100 a day doing this.

    Is that any less believeable than winning on a -EV slot machine called Golden Egypt which probably has a payback of 85-percent?
    Your highlighted section tells it all. So you are saying there are people winning $36500 a year ($36600 in a leap year) playing hot shooters on craps. I rest my case.

    But again, why are they not betting table max on hot shooters?
    Maybe they are making $36,000 a year... you should ask them. I'm not at Red Rock every day and I don't know what they do with that hundred bucks or so when they leave the craps pit. For all I know they lose it playing the Golden Egypt slots or blackjack.

    All I can tell you is some regulars hang out at the tables and when the time is right they make a couple of bets, take a win or two, and leave. You got a problem with that?
    Yes because it’s impossible to do everyday. End of debate because you know it as well. Just Alan being Alan.

  6. #66
    Impossible? Is finding an abandoned multiplier on UX every day impossible? And winning too? LOL

    But I digress.

    How many times do you have to do it to win $100 a month? How about $500 a month?

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Impossible? Is finding an abandoned multiplier on UX every day impossible? And winning too? LOLBut I digress. How many times do you have to do it to win $100 a month? How about $500 a month?
    I wouldn't want to be a UX hunter in Las Vegas.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Impossible? Is finding an abandoned multiplier on UX every day impossible? And winning too? LOLBut I digress. How many times do you have to do it to win $100 a month? How about $500 a month?
    I wouldn't want to be a UX hunter in Las Vegas.
    Yes I can here it now: "I've already checked those bro".

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Impossible? Is finding an abandoned multiplier on UX every day impossible? And winning too? LOLBut I digress. How many times do you have to do it to win $100 a month? How about $500 a month?
    I wouldn't want to be a UX hunter in Las Vegas.
    Yes I can here it now: "I've already checked those bro".
    Dancer played UX heavily in 2015. Says it was his only losing year because he lost 100K playing UX. He once commented on the steady stream of UX hunters checking the machines around him.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #70
    I am on my annual college hockey trip way north of the Adirondacks in NY and made a brief stop at the casino in Saratoga. The slot machine options have changed quite a bit. The only machines of note are six Golden Egypt Grand. Unlike the regular GE machines, the grand machines have a 2/3/4/3/2 wild counter above the reels rather than the maximum 2 wild counter across all five reels on the standard machine.

    There are approximately six different coin levels, $.75 to $6.00 per spin.

    My buddy and I played at two different ten minute intervals on this bay of machines. The locals left some great plays; one being nine of 14 wilds on a $6.00 machine. Ultimately we cashed out for a $210 profit for that particular 20 minutes of work.

    Naturally, I realize this will not be a regular return but it is great to use info from this forum To our advantage.

    Our plans are to revisit Saratoga on our return to the Albany area and then visit Rivers in Schenectady. At worst, I have heard the they have some Ocean Magic and HD machines.

    While I genenerally play VP, it is refreshing to play some slots with an educated purpose. Thanks guys.

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    I am on my annual college hockey trip way north of the Adirondacks in NY and made a brief stop at the casino in Saratoga. The slot machine options have changed quite a bit. The only machines of note are six Golden Egypt Grand. Unlike the regular GE machines, the grand machines have a 2/3/4/3/2 wild counter above the reels rather than the maximum 2 wild counter across all five reels on the standard machine.

    There are approximately six different coin levels, $.75 to $6.00 per spin.

    My buddy and I played at two different ten minute intervals on this bay of machines. The locals left some great plays; one being nine of 14 wilds on a $6.00 machine. Ultimately we cashed out for a $210 profit for that particular 20 minutes of work.

    Naturally, I realize this will not be a regular return but it is great to use info from this forum To our advantage.

    Our plans are to revisit Saratoga on our return to the Albany area and then visit Rivers in Schenectady. At worst, I have heard the they have some Ocean Magic and HD machines.

    While I genenerally play VP, it is refreshing to play some slots with an educated purpose. Thanks guys.
    I haven't come across the Grands yet. Looking forward to it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Deech View Post
    I am on my annual college hockey trip way north of the Adirondacks in NY and made a brief stop at the casino in Saratoga. The slot machine options have changed quite a bit. The only machines of note are six Golden Egypt Grand. Unlike the regular GE machines, the grand machines have a 2/3/4/3/2 wild counter above the reels rather than the maximum 2 wild counter across all five reels on the standard machine.

    There are approximately six different coin levels, $.75 to $6.00 per spin.

    My buddy and I played at two different ten minute intervals on this bay of machines. The locals left some great plays; one being nine of 14 wilds on a $6.00 machine. Ultimately we cashed out for a $210 profit for that particular 20 minutes of work.

    Naturally, I realize this will not be a regular return but it is great to use info from this forum To our advantage.

    Our plans are to revisit Saratoga on our return to the Albany area and then visit Rivers in Schenectady. At worst, I have heard the they have some Ocean Magic and HD machines.

    While I genenerally play VP, it is refreshing to play some slots with an educated purpose. Thanks guys.
    I haven't come across the Grands yet. Looking forward to it.
    I hope its not like the other game that has a "grand" version that ended up being not as good as the original

  13. #73
    Mickey--I don't play slots but I was at Horseshoe hammond yesterday and screwed around with these Golden Egypts per your instructions above. There were a couple problems. First, every game I found was penny, 2 cents or nickle, but no-one was playing anything but penny. So even if you found a "live" one, it was only for pennies. Then, there was almost never a winner anyway even with the wilds.

    I would scroll through the pennies from 1 to max coin, then the 2 cents from 1 to max coin, then the nickles. Mostly had to play the penny. Not my thing but I can see where vulturing could work albeit for small money. There was one asian guy that I kept running into going through the same process as me and vulturing where possible.

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Mickey--I don't play slots but I was at Horseshoe hammond yesterday and screwed around with these Golden Egypts per your instructions above. There were a couple problems. First, every game I found was penny, 2 cents or nickle, but no-one was playing anything but penny. So even if you found a "live" one, it was only for pennies. Then, there was almost never a winner anyway even with the wilds.

    I would scroll through the pennies from 1 to max coin, then the 2 cents from 1 to max coin, then the nickles. Mostly had to play the penny. Not my thing but I can see where vulturing could work albeit for small money. There was one asian guy that I kept running into going through the same process as me and vulturing where possible.
    All vulturing spots are not created equal. Try Bellagio and Aria where you can bet $60 a spin. GE's are a volume play. A few plays here and there don't mean anything. The free games are a big part of the payback and you aren't going to get them every play.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #75
    I learned a lot from your Twitter posts and GWAE radio appearance, mickey. Thanks for sharing your machine AP wisdom.

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  16. #76
    Originally Posted by nerakil View Post
    I learned a lot from your Twitter posts and GWAE radio appearance, mickey. Thanks for sharing your machine AP wisdom.

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    Nice cashout, Nerakil. Thanks for the compliment. That's a huge payout for the bonus round even on the 375 bet level. How many games did you pick and what did you hit?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #77
    I'm going to ask a stupid question because the game picture is a tad blurry. But is that a $3.75 bet or a $93.75 (375 credits) bet?

  18. #78
    jbjb- Ninety three seventy five.

    mickeycrimm- 5 free games, 3 reels wild. Hit a few second tier symbols, but no pharaohs.

  19. #79
    Nice hit. I screwed around with that game on pennies for an hour and never once got the bonus round or free games or whatever the bonus is. Actually pretty boring game but again I don't like slots so don't go by me.

  20. #80
    Nice hit and more respect for having the knowledge, bankroll and even balls to place that wager, even knowing you had an advantage.

    Some of us know what casino and location issued the check, maybe black it out in the future. Never hurts to be safe in the world today.

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