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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    It was either that or come to your place Rob.
    Pahrump - a pum pum. (lyrics from Little Drummer Boy)

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    It was either that or come to your place Rob.
    Pahrump - a pum pum. (lyrics from Little Drummer Boy)
    O Holy Night. Dang, I never got my Christmas card from Norm this year. Did you? lol

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    It was either that or come to your place Rob.
    Pahrump - a pum pum. (lyrics from Little Drummer Boy)
    O Holy Night. Dang, I never got my Christmas card from Norm this year. Did you? lol
    There is a particularly nice version of Little drummer boy sung by Stella Parton, that I enjoy. For those that don't know, Stella Parton is Dolly's younger sister, born May 4, 1949.

    I also have a series of numbers that I enjoy over the holiday season, that I could share. Completely random of course, not SS or phone numbers in code. (right Rob)

    Being in the holiday season: Snta Inc.

    Freedom of speech right?
    Last edited by kewlJ; 12-22-2018 at 12:03 PM.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I ignore Axel. I know it's just him playing games. I also ignore keystone and MaxPen.

    But I have new respect for kewlj. Frankly I'd rather read about kewlj talking about blackjack and even EV and counting two tables than the garbage about Rob Singer's sex organs and his crap about wives and daughters. And it's hideous that Dan allowed it to continue this long.
    I’m crushed...it’s really important to me that you like me 😥😥😥
    It's not about liking anyone kew. It's about your continued lack of dignity and self-worth, your alarming inability to do anything you say, and your embarrassing cowering when it comes to being 100% unable to not read, be concerned with, or participate in any forum where you either get canned from or promise/swear/pledge to never come back again. To me, as well as to everyone else even though they won't come out and say it, you are disgustingly weak while lacking in the self-confidence to be able to just carry-on with your loosey-goosey life on your own.

    One can only imagine the amount of humiliation a gutted freak like you suffers through every day.

    And I like it!

  5. #25
    Wait, Rob. Why are you quoting a post from keystone but writing to kewlj? Unless kew is keystone as well as kewlj?

    Sometimes I get confused.

    Anyway this whole forum is totally nuts. Rob you disappointed me when you started with this latest wager snd mentioned wives and daughters. How absolutely disgusting.

    Then the usual suspects latch onto it instead of taking the high road.

    And then Dan decides he's going to be the king of free speech and takes a perch on the peak of this dung heap of a forum.

    What a sad piece of crap this has all become.

    I tell you... Kewlj is now the guy I respect for also blaming Dan for this disaster of a forum.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    And what kind of social LOSER spends Christmas Day inside of a casino anyway??
    Ahem. One that likes a free turkey/ham buffet? It was either that or come to your place Rob.
    Rob is the only turkey at his place.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Rob is the only turkey at his place.
    My Dad used to say, "there is big ole good ones and good ole big ones." O wait. He was talking about the best women. Sage advice to a 12 year old.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Wait, Rob. Why are you quoting a post from keystone but writing to kewlj? Unless kew is keystone as well as kewlj?

    Sometimes I get confused.

    Anyway this whole forum is totally nuts. Rob you disappointed me when you started with this latest wager snd mentioned wives and daughters. How absolutely disgusting.

    Then the usual suspects latch onto it instead of taking the high road.

    And then Dan decides he's going to be the king of free speech and takes a perch on the peak of this dung heap of a forum.

    What a sad piece of crap this has all become.

    I tell you... Kewlj is now the guy I respect for also blaming Dan for this disaster of a forum.
    Alan, that latest "challenge" by bozo was deserving of requiring his wife or daughter participating in the "warm-up" and "tape-measure me" phases because, well, with a fool like him around I thought I'd brighten up both their days, and at the same time, make his wife more disappointed than she likely always is....if that's even possible.

    Now I'll put in boz' next post for him right here: "waaa....waaa....it's not a bet proposer's job to supply the terms! And Alan, go pay your son will you, instead of blowing it all at Red Rock on the first of the month!!!

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I looked over the language in the promotion rules. It appears this is for the 11x multiplier days. If you follow "the letter of the law" then anyone playing correct strategy on any full pay game including 25-cents 8/5 Bonus Poker could be impacted.

    I doubt that's the case. My GUESS and I am emphasizing GUESS because that's what it is, is that Boyd added this language as a new "catch all phrase" to establish it's boundaries.

    I doubt Boyd will take action against any player on its properties playing full pay video poker using correct strategy because they'd have to throw out nearly all of their players at the Suncoast, for example, which is loaded with locals who seem to always be on the full pay games and playing correct strategy. That's what you find at these locals casinos.
    Playing with an advantage doesn't necessarily mean you're an advantage player. If I'm playing blackjack and the (true) count goes to +4, there's an advantage, but that doesn't mean everyone else at the table is an AP, even though they are currently playing with an advantage.

    A few years ago I was with my dad on a short vacation trip. He enjoys gambling and isn't an AP, but we were in an area where there were a few casinos. We had some down time and he said he wanted to go to a casino for an hour or two, is there anywhere specifically where we should play? So I went online, looked at some promotions at casinos around, called some places, and found one place had a $100 or $200 loss rebate for new signups and you get the freeplay the next morning if you end up losing. So.....we went and played it. My dad was playing with an advantage but he's definitely not an AP. Anyone else who played the promotion and had some common sense would also be playing with an advantage, even though they aren't necessarily APs.



    Is Suncoast going to kick someone out for playing the 11x point multiplier day? No. Are they going to kick someone out who only plays on high multiplier days? I don't know, but that's a lot more likely.



    For what it's worth, I reckon Barona has similar wording ("advantage player") in some of their promotional rules.
    #FreeTyde

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I looked over the language in the promotion rules. It appears this is for the 11x multiplier days. If you follow "the letter of the law" then anyone playing correct strategy on any full pay game including 25-cents 8/5 Bonus Poker could be impacted.

    I doubt that's the case. My GUESS and I am emphasizing GUESS because that's what it is, is that Boyd added this language as a new "catch all phrase" to establish it's boundaries.

    I doubt Boyd will take action against any player on its properties playing full pay video poker using correct strategy because they'd have to throw out nearly all of their players at the Suncoast, for example, which is loaded with locals who seem to always be on the full pay games and playing correct strategy. That's what you find at these locals casinos.
    Playing with an advantage doesn't necessarily mean you're an advantage player. If I'm playing blackjack and the (true) count goes to +4, there's an advantage, but that doesn't mean everyone else at the table is an AP, even though they are currently playing with an advantage.

    A few years ago I was with my dad on a short vacation trip. He enjoys gambling and isn't an AP, but we were in an area where there were a few casinos. We had some down time and he said he wanted to go to a casino for an hour or two, is there anywhere specifically where we should play? So I went online, looked at some promotions at casinos around, called some places, and found one place had a $100 or $200 loss rebate for new signups and you get the freeplay the next morning if you end up losing. So.....we went and played it. My dad was playing with an advantage but he's definitely not an AP. Anyone else who played the promotion and had some common sense would also be playing with an advantage, even though they aren't necessarily APs.



    Is Suncoast going to kick someone out for playing the 11x point multiplier day? No. Are they going to kick someone out who only plays on high multiplier days? I don't know, but that's a lot more likely.



    For what it's worth, I reckon Barona has similar wording ("advantage player") in some of their promotional rules.
    Dancer and others got kicked out of Suncoast for playing the $5 full pay Bonus Poker Deluxe on the multiplier days.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #31
    Boyd is definitely trying to weed out the unprofitable players.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Boyd is definitely trying to weed out the unprofitable players.
    This is one reason I like to play the 2 dollar version.
    Not nearly as many lock ups.

    I was playing those.
    They also had Full Pay Triple Double.
    This was a few years ago though before the major heat.

    I played for 2 weeks solid over there and all around Boyd with a partner.
    It seems Sams Town decided to double your points if you took Free Play for one month.
    You had to take the Free Play on Wednesday or maybe it was Tuesday... once per week on a specific day.
    So you had a massive amount of points for the week hoping they didn't screw you out of the double up.
    Even if they did screw you, you still were playing over 100% with Point Days... the promotion just doubled the earn.
    So this was kinda a big deal for those who knew about it.

    The problem was that after the first two weeks Sams Town put up a sign discontinuing the promotion.
    They got scared.
    Never seen that promotion pop up again at Sams Town since.
    14 days of easy money was nice and they screwed up later with 2 years of Young At Heart Free Money.

    This is why they are doing what they are doing.
    Tired of the APs robbing them blind basically even though some members here think the Casino doesn't care about AP or AP Play.
    No matter what anyone says here... Boyd got hit hard with the Young at Heart Promo for a long time.
    Almost everyone was running multiple cards on this all over the city.
    Even little old ladies.
    Last edited by monet; 12-22-2018 at 05:04 PM.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Boyd is definitely trying to weed out the unprofitable players.
    This is one reason I like to play the 2 dollar version.
    Not nearly as many lock ups.

    I was playing those.
    They also had Full Pay Triple Double.
    This was a few years ago though before the major heat.

    I played for 2 weeks solid over there and all around Boyd with a partner.
    It seems Sams Town decided to double your points if you took Free Play for one month.
    You had to take the Free Play on Wednesday or maybe it was Tuesday... once per week on a specific day.
    So you had a massive amount of points for the week hoping they didn't screw you out of the double up.
    Even if they did screw you, you still were playing over 100% with Point Days... the promotion just doubled the earn.
    So this was kinda a big deal for those who knew about it.

    The problem was that after the first two weeks Sams Town put up a sign discontinuing the promotion.
    They got scared.
    Never seen that promotion pop up again at Sams Town since.
    14 days of easy money was nice and they screwed up later with 2 years of Young At Heart Free Money.

    This is why they are doing what they are doing.
    Tired of the APs robbing them blind basically even though some members here think the Casino doesn't care about AP or AP Play.
    No matter what anyone says here... Boyd got hit hard with the Young at Heart Promo for a long time.
    Almost everyone was running multiple cards on this all over the city.
    Even little old ladies.
    The problem with your assumptions monet is that most people who aren't proud to call themselves "ap's" do the exact same things you and your misguided ilk do all the time. The simple things you go on and on about do not take more than a middle school education to figure out. Most vp players aren't as dumb as you people like to think, and they are far more knowledgeable than either phony Dancer or his gimpy-voiced pipsqueak pal "Richard Munchkin" could even imagine.

    Wise up.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Boyd is definitely trying to weed out the unprofitable players.
    This is one reason I like to play the 2 dollar version.
    Not nearly as many lock ups.

    I was playing those.
    They also had Full Pay Triple Double.
    This was a few years ago though before the major heat.

    I played for 2 weeks solid over there and all around Boyd with a partner.
    It seems Sams Town decided to double your points if you took Free Play for one month.
    You had to take the Free Play on Wednesday or maybe it was Tuesday... once per week on a specific day.
    So you had a massive amount of points for the week hoping they didn't screw you out of the double up.
    Even if they did screw you, you still were playing over 100% with Point Days... the promotion just doubled the earn.
    So this was kinda a big deal for those who knew about it.

    The problem was that after the first two weeks Sams Town put up a sign discontinuing the promotion.
    They got scared.
    Never seen that promotion pop up again at Sams Town since.
    14 days of easy money was nice and they screwed up later with 2 years of Young At Heart Free Money.

    This is why they are doing what they are doing.
    Tired of the APs robbing them blind basically even though some members here think the Casino doesn't care about AP or AP Play.
    No matter what anyone says here... Boyd got hit hard with the Young at Heart Promo for a long time.
    Almost everyone was running multiple cards on this all over the city.
    Even little old ladies.
    The problem with your assumptions monet is that most people who aren't proud to call themselves "ap's" do the exact same things you and your misguided ilk do all the time. The simple things you go on and on about do not take more than a middle school education to figure out. Most vp players aren't as dumb as you people like to think, and they are far more knowledgeable than either phony Dancer or his gimpy-voiced pipsqueak pal "Richard Munchkin" could even imagine.

    Wise up.
    LOL Just when you think Robocchio couldn't get any stupider he surprises us with incredible stupidity.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    This is one reason I like to play the 2 dollar version.
    Not nearly as many lock ups.

    I was playing those.
    They also had Full Pay Triple Double.
    This was a few years ago though before the major heat.

    I played for 2 weeks solid over there and all around Boyd with a partner.
    It seems Sams Town decided to double your points if you took Free Play for one month.
    You had to take the Free Play on Wednesday or maybe it was Tuesday... once per week on a specific day.
    So you had a massive amount of points for the week hoping they didn't screw you out of the double up.
    Even if they did screw you, you still were playing over 100% with Point Days... the promotion just doubled the earn.
    So this was kinda a big deal for those who knew about it.

    The problem was that after the first two weeks Sams Town put up a sign discontinuing the promotion.
    They got scared.
    Never seen that promotion pop up again at Sams Town since.
    14 days of easy money was nice and they screwed up later with 2 years of Young At Heart Free Money.

    This is why they are doing what they are doing.
    Tired of the APs robbing them blind basically even though some members here think the Casino doesn't care about AP or AP Play.
    No matter what anyone says here... Boyd got hit hard with the Young at Heart Promo for a long time.
    Almost everyone was running multiple cards on this all over the city.
    Even little old ladies.
    The problem with your assumptions monet is that most people who aren't proud to call themselves "ap's" do the exact same things you and your misguided ilk do all the time. The simple things you go on and on about do not take more than a middle school education to figure out. Most vp players aren't as dumb as you people like to think, and they are far more knowledgeable than either phony Dancer or his gimpy-voiced pipsqueak pal "Richard Munchkin" could even imagine.

    Wise up.
    LOL Just when you think Robocchio couldn't get any stupider he surprises us with incredible stupidity.
    Are you whining over the fact that there's way more vp players with more smarts than you than you want to believe....or is it jealously that so many have at least a 9th grade education?

  16. #36
    For what it is worth: Public information available on Mr "Singer" states that he has a high school education. There is no mention of college degrees or a college education. But I am sure he has an answer for that. Maybe some sort of top secret thing.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    For what it is worth: Public information available on Mr "Singer" states that he has a high school education. There is no mention of college degrees or a college education. But I am sure he has an answer for that. Maybe some sort of top secret thing.
    He got an AA degree, but it took him 9 1/2 years.
    What, Me Worry?

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Wait, Rob. Why are you quoting a post from keystone but writing to kewlj? Unless kew is keystone as well as kewlj?

    Sometimes I get confused.

    Anyway this whole forum is totally nuts. Rob you disappointed me when you started with this latest wager snd mentioned wives and daughters. How absolutely disgusting.

    Then the usual suspects latch onto it instead of taking the high road.

    And then Dan decides he's going to be the king of free speech and takes a perch on the peak of this dung heap of a forum.

    What a sad piece of crap this has all become.

    I tell you... Kewlj is now the guy I respect for also blaming Dan for this disaster of a forum.
    Alan, that latest "challenge" by bozo was deserving of requiring his wife or daughter participating in the "warm-up" and "tape-measure me" phases because, well, with a fool like him around I thought I'd brighten up both their days, and at the same time, make his wife more disappointed than she likely always is....if that's even possible.

    Now I'll put in boz' next post for him right here: "waaa....waaa....it's not a bet proposer's job to supply the terms! And Alan, go pay your son will you, instead of blowing it all at Red Rock on the first of the month!!!
    Alan, this bag of shit is the guy you keep calling your friend. As you can see, if even you offer any constructive criticism to him, he will turn and insult the hell out of you. He's never been your friend, Alan. He just uses you. He's pure scum.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    The problem with your assumptions monet is that most people who aren't proud to call themselves "ap's" do the exact same things you and your misguided ilk do all the time. The simple things you go on and on about do not take more than a middle school education to figure out. Most vp players aren't as dumb as you people like to think, and they are far more knowledgeable than either phony Dancer or his gimpy-voiced pipsqueak pal "Richard Munchkin" could even imagine.

    Wise up.
    LOL Just when you think Robocchio couldn't get any stupider he surprises us with incredible stupidity.
    Are you whining over the fact that there's way more vp players with more smarts than you than you want to believe....or is it jealously that so many have at least a 9th grade education?
    Just about everyone on vpFREE is college educated. And they all agree with me on video poker, not you.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #40
    mickey, please explain how you know that to be a fact.

    Then if you have time (oh that's right, you DO---it's Christmas time and because you've always been too stupid and broke and socially rejectable to have a wife or a family, you'll be alone again at some Indian casino this year) could you please....FINALLY....produce one or two of those letters to the special players at Suncoast who you claim "have been informed" they are not welcome for promotions because they're super duper "advantage players"? Hint: maybe you could get some of those "degreed vpfreeer's" To Help you out on that

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