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Thread: Request to Dan regarding $100K Singer Challenge

  1. #61
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    You are a funny person to criticize this, given how you let Rob troll the forum for years while you were in charge.
    Wrong. I suspended and blocked Rob. And frankly he was on his best behavior compared to the crap that goes on now. AND THERE WAS NO OTHER TROLLING HERE. This was a site for discussion and information when I ran it. But I turned it over to you when the trolling started. I trusted you when you said you'd control it... but you let it take over.

    Look at the member list Dan. Look at the hundreds of members who used to post here.

    YOU killed this site. Absentee landlords become slum lords all the time, don't they?

    There were no anti Gay or anti Semetic comments when I ran this site BECAUSE I DELETED THEM AND DELETED THEM PROMPLTLY. If you delete them it's days after they are posted when the damage is done.

    And there were no discussions about penis size or having someone's wife perform sex acts.
    Alan, you always allowed Rob to troll and harass everyone else but you got pissed when he trolled you. I can't remember what you suspended Rob for the first time but the second time you suspended him was because of his criticism of your gambling habits. Rob was the first to criticize you for it. But when you seen you were outnumbered on the "two dice problem," you were in the 1 in 6 camp while everyone else was in the 1 in 11 camp, you lifted Rob's suspension because you knew he would troll the 1 in 11 crowd. You wanted someone on your side on the issue so you forgot why you suspended him and let him back. And he just recently criticized you again for your gambling habits.

    I personally don't care what your gambling habits are. That's your business. Las Vegas is a great place to retire to as there is a lot of entertainment options. Always something to do 24/7. I hope you are enjoying it.
    Notice how Alan couldn't argue with truth this time since it was so very obvious how it all went down.

  2. #62
    Dan, Whats wrong with my suggestion? Just contain Rob to one thread.

  3. #63
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Dan, Whats wrong with my suggestion? Just contain Rob to one thread.
    I 2nd the motion.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #64
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Dan, Whats wrong with my suggestion? Just contain Rob to one thread.
    I’ll bet you would have fit in nicely in the South in the 60’s!

    Guess you think people like Singer shouldn’t drink out of the same water fountain as you.

    I think you are spending too much time in a “Corner “ trying to prove you qualify to be someone’s Sugar Daddy.

    😁😁😁

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Dan, Whats wrong with my suggestion? Just contain Rob to one thread.
    I 2nd the motion.
    I could live with this solution....IF IT WAS ENFORCED.

    This Singer person could have his say, bizarre as it is about any topic. And those that feel the need to engage and get their troll on with him could do so.

    And then maybe, just maybe we could have some threads that were grounded in reality that could benefit other members and that some of the lurkers and others that don't regularly participate might just want to do so without fear of being attacked.

  6. #66
    Racism, Hate or whatever you want to call it is funny.
    Take for instance in the last 200 some odd years.
    Fight to Free the Slaves but don't let them use public water fountains till after 20 some years after WWII.
    Hate the Japanese, Germans and Italians but buy their Electronics, Machinery and Pizza right after WWII.

    Lets not even get Alan or Dan started about their Tribe and what they have gone through in the last 5000 years.
    Most young people don't even know about Munich let alone Egypt.

    Now I see all the Hate towards Muslims...
    even my God Fearing, Jesus Loving, Pentecostal Grandmother spits out venom towards modern day Muslims.
    Mind you she is 93 years old and calls African Americans... Colored People.
    I thought the teaching of Jesus was to Love One Another.
    Supposedly this is the number two commandment.
    First Love God is number one.
    It seems if you aren't obeying number two you can't really be obeying number one and vice versa.
    Jesus People are supposed to Love their enemies more so than their own Life, according to that Book I have read a few times.

    I still like the cynical post by a WoV member awhile back.
    Something like... "All Grandmothers would slit your throat if you mess with their Rice Bowl."
    Last edited by monet; 12-26-2018 at 05:58 PM.

  7. #67
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Racism, Hate or whatever you want to call it is funny.
    Take for instance in the last 200 some odd years.
    Fight to Free the Slaves but don't let them use public water fountains till after 20 some years after WWII.
    Hate the Japanese, Germans and Italians but buy their Electronics, Machinery and Pizza right after WWII.

    Lets not even get Alan or Dan started about their Tribe and what they have gone through in the last 5000 years.
    Most young people don't even know about Munich let alone Egypt.

    Now I see all the Hate towards Muslims...
    even my God Fearing, Jesus Loving, Pentecostal Grandmother spits out venom towards modern day Muslims.
    Mind you she is 93 years old and calls African Americans... Colored People.
    I thought the teaching of Jesus was to Love One Another.
    Supposedly this is the number two commandment.
    First Love God is number one.
    It seems if you aren't obeying number two you can't really be obeying number one and vice versa.
    Jesus People are supposed to Love their enemies more so than their own Life, according to that Book I have read a few times.

    I still like the cynical post by a WoV member awhile back.
    Something like... "All Grandmothers would slit your throat if you mess with their Rice Bowl."
    We've all sinned and come short of the glory of God.
    We are all God's children.
    Your soul belongs to God but your ass is mine.
    Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
    There are no athiests in a foxhole.
    Don't ask me for a donation because you're worried about my soul.
    If there were no God there would be a need to create one.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #68
    Well I don't know about this latest turn with these last two posts, but I want to get back to the idea of a separate section for Singer, which I hope Dan is considering. I don't think it should be just one thread as proposed. If it is just a single thread then every time I visit the site, Singer's thread will likely be the only thread that shows in the Las Vegas 'subsection' where most posts take place. So the first title anyone sees will be Singer's thread, which almost assuredly will have nothing to do with Las Vegas or even legitimate gambling for that matter.

    I propose that Singer be given his own subsection, similar to the "whatever else is on your mind" subsection, separate and below the popular Las Vegas subsection. Maybe entitled "Singer's alternative reality" or "Singer voodoo".

  9. #69
    KJ. KJ. KJ. Every time you go on a rant on a forum you take a hard hit at the tables. Maybe God takes his focus off ZenPing and puts in on you? lol

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    KJ. KJ. KJ. Every time you go on a rant on a forum you take a hard hit at the tables.
    Well this isn't true Moses. Nor would you or anyone reading know if it was. You don't know how I do at any specific time at the tables, because I rarely share those experiences in real time. Usually when I post about a bad results, a losing day or the worst week in my now 15 year career, I am NOT posting in real time. I like to have a delay, sometimes days, sometimes weeks (not always, but usually) so as not to expose and identify myself should any casino personnel be reading. But good try, Moses.

    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Maybe God takes his focus off ZenPing and puts in on you? lol
    Well God is going to have to hurry, Moses. Tomorrow is probably my last blackjack playing day of the year. I do have a bit of free play to wrap up Friday and Saturday and then my blackjack partner and we will be "breaking the bank" and taking profits for the year.

  11. #71
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Well this isn't true Moses.:
    I'm joking KJ.


    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Nor would you or anyone reading know if it was. You don't know how I do at any specific time at the tables, because I rarely share those experiences in real time. :
    No...but God does. HE tells Norm. Norm tells T3. T3 tells Freighter. Freighter tells me.

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Nor would you or anyone reading know if it was. You don't know how I do at any specific time at the tables, because I rarely share those experiences in real time. :
    No...but God does. HE tells Norm. Norm tells T3. T3 tells Freighter. Freighter tells me.
    Why do you obsess over these people. I have nothing against Freightman, but he doesn't participate on any forum that I am on. The other two are just irrelevant. Norm made good blackjack software..that's it. Other than that these guys are completely irrelevant to me, to you and should be to anyone who plays blackjack seriously.

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Nor would you or anyone reading know if it was. You don't know how I do at any specific time at the tables, because I rarely share those experiences in real time. :
    No...but God does. HE tells Norm. Norm tells T3. T3 tells Freighter. Freighter tells me.
    Why do you obsess over these people. I have nothing against Freightman, but he doesn't participate on any forum that I am on. The other two are just irrelevant. Norm made good blackjack software..that's it. Other than that these guys are completely irrelevant to me, to you and should be to anyone who plays blackjack seriously.
    Freighter is golden. T3 is unique. Norm is a poopoo head. I hate deception.

  14. #74
    Wasn't Keystone banned and allowed back in basically posting the same type of posts getting him banned in the first place?
    Did Natasha get banned and allowed back?
    Is Alan saying that he has never trolled in any of his posts?

    How many corners do we have to invent to contain these undesirables?
    If Axel can't get you banned for life he will lobby damn hard to get you put in a corner.

    At least LarryS gave up posting or reinvented another user name and style.
    It appears if you want to get rid of someone you have to dox them.
    Step two involves sabotaging their car in some fashion.
    Step three involves the police and internet police telling the victim to give up posting for life on such and such forum.
    This seems to have better results than banning an reinstating said members.

    I do agree with Mickeycrimm that threads can get derailed or trolled pretty hard.
    This makes the user have to sift through threads or posts to uncover the gems.
    No difference in any other gambling forum that I have read.
    You usually find information here and there covered in a mountain of dung.
    That is just life. I myself post plenty of garbage that has no other use than my own personal amusement.
    Guilty as Charged.
    Last edited by monet; 12-27-2018 at 05:42 AM.

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Wasn't Keystone banned and allowed back in basically posting the same type of posts getting him banned in the first place?
    Did Natasha get banned and allowed back?
    Is Alan saying that he has never trolled in any of his posts?

    How many corners do we have to invent to contain these undesirables?
    If Axel can't get you banned for life he will lobby damn hard to get you put in a corner.

    At least LarryS gave up posting or reinvented another user name and style.
    It appears if you want to get rid of someone you have to dox them.
    Step two involves sabotaging their car in some fashion.
    Step three involves the police and internet police telling the victim to give up posting for life on such and such forum.
    This seems to have better results than banning an reinstating said members.

    I do agree with Mickeycrimm that threads can get derailed or trolled pretty hard.
    This makes the user have to sift through threads or posts to uncover the gems.
    No difference in any other gambling forum that I have read.
    You usually find information here and there covered in a mountain of dung.
    That is just life. I myself post plenty of garbage that has no other use than my own personal amusement.
    Guilty as Charged.
    I’m an “undesirable?”....wow, who knew

  16. #76
    Yes, I'm considering restricting Rob to one thread. In fact, I may write something into the software to automatically do it.

    I agree Rob has disrupted too many threads lately.

    I always saw him as more of a forum clown, and he seems mostly harmless, but I do get annoyed when he ruins good threads with trolling.

    Regarding Alan, he really is living in delusion if he believes that I've allowed this forum to descend into an environment of trolling. This forum ALWAYS had that environment, including years before I showed up.

    The only difference now is that this site has more former/current WoV posters than it did before, and many of these people don't like Alan, so to him it seems like there's more trolling than there once was. However, Alan just needs to go back to some of the posts Rob made years ago, where he said some really nasty, awful things to members here. Furthermore, there were other trolls, not just Rob. Alan just didn't clamp down upon them because they weren't trolling him.

    I do disagree with kewlJ's assessment that Rob needs to be limited because he puts bad information out there. Nearly everyone on this site recognizes Rob to be a crackpot when it comes to gambling theory, and even those who don't realize it simply need to read the posts following his, and they will understand. Besides, this is a forum, not a tutoring site. Crackpots with stupid theories are allowed to post here.
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  17. #77
    If Rob is restricted to one thread, then there needs to be one other rule. Nobody can reference Rob, attack Rob, discuss Rob, take a shot at Rob, etc. in any other thread in which he cannot respond. Any reference to or mention of Rob must be only in Rob's thread.

  18. #78
    What about Rob? A sequel?

  19. #79
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    If Rob is restricted to one thread, then there needs to be one other rule. Nobody can reference Rob, attack Rob, discuss Rob, take a shot at Rob, etc. in any other thread in which he cannot respond. Any reference to or mention of Rob must be only in Rob's thread.
    But you can bet that Rob will be taking shots at the people and what they say in the other threads.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #80
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Why do you obsess over these people.
    Because I enjoy it. Also, is serves as a break when I'm actually working on my game.

    You should read thread Adding AA78mTc side count to High Low . It's like a bad movie called Nerds gone WILD. It would blow your mind.

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