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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    What Alan was saying is that it is overwhelmingly unlikely that there are many successful AP's walking around, while it is highly likely that there are a vast number of working class people that have been very successful throughout life.
    If you are comparing the two side by side, then there are definitely going to be many more successful working class people than successful APs. I mean, the same can be said for just about anything, really. There are far more successful working class people than there are successful NFL players. Far more successful working people than there are successful SCUBA instructors, or successful hedge fund managers, or successful <fill in the blank>.
    If I can't SCUBA, then what has this all been for?
    What are you working toward?
    #FreeTyde

  2. #22
    The obvious difference in all this is very very simple to deduce: people with jobs are proven money-makers, while people who claim to make money gambling as AP's are largely seen as being as honest as the nearest fisherman. Become vested at many of the more lucrative places of employment and if you're savvy and responsible, you'll be set for life--in funds and benefits. Many however, toss a lot of it away by finding themselves in divorce court. There is a HUGE gap between equal-earning employees who go through a divorce and those who do not.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    The obvious difference in all this is very very simple to deduce: people with jobs are proven money-makers, while people who claim to make money gambling as AP's are largely seen as being as honest as the nearest fisherman.
    "It's not about the money" is a phrase I've heard all to often. My saying? "It's almost always about the money."
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Become vested at many of the more lucrative places of employment and if you're savvy and responsible, you'll be set for life--in funds and benefits. Many however, toss a lot of it away by finding themselves in divorce court. .
    Divorce court may well be the biggest casino in existance.
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    There is a HUGE gap between equal-earning employees who go through a divorce and those who do not.
    Amen. Now you're preachin to the choir.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Many however, toss a lot of it away by finding themselves in divorce court.
    Welcome to my world.

    Why is divorce so expensive?

    Because it's worth it.

    Ka-ching!
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    There is a HUGE gap between equal-earning employees who go through a divorce and those who do not.
    Amen. Now you're preachin to the choir.[/QUOTE]
    —--------_-----------------
    And I say this as someone who is celebrating our 40th anniversary on Sunday--something the critics here have only been able to respond with "she's ugly" as a 65-yr. old, simply because they have no answers as to how well I've done in my video poker career by playing opposite their "phantom bucks theory" method. And BTW, it hurts them even further to know that we both have had successful working careers prior to my becoming the most knowledgeable and successful/profitable VP expert in professional playing history.

    And also BTW kew....I believe there is a place in this world for a confused soul like yourself---only it's a DARK place.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    ... my becoming the most knowledgeable and successful/profitable VP expert in professional playing history.
    You seem to have a much higher opinion of yourself than do others.

    Why is that?
    What, Me Worry?

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    ... my becoming the most knowledgeable and successful/profitable VP expert in professional playing history.
    You seem to have a much higher opinion of yourself than do others.

    Why is that?
    He's a legend in his own mind. I made more money on video poker just today than he's made in his entire life.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    ... my becoming the most knowledgeable and successful/profitable VP expert in professional playing history.
    You seem to have a much higher opinion of yourself than do others.

    Why is that?
    What jealous anonymous people think and say is completely irrelevant. And as far as video poker is concerned, I had the most popular and beloved weekly column in Gaming Today history for nearly 8 years.

    Game, Set, and Match!

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    The obvious difference in all this is very very simple to deduce: people with jobs are proven money-makers, while people who claim to make money gambling as AP's are largely seen as being as honest as the nearest fisherman. Become vested at many of the more lucrative places of employment and if you're savvy and responsible, you'll be set for life--in funds and benefits. Many however, toss a lot of it away by finding themselves in divorce court. There is a HUGE gap between equal-earning employees who go through a divorce and those who do not.
    Is it common for proven money-makers to declare bankruptcy and stiff landlords ?

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Many however, toss a lot of it away by finding themselves in divorce court.
    Welcome to my world.

    Why is divorce so expensive?

    Because it's worth it.

    Ka-ching!
    Congrat's Rob on 40 years. That's quite an accomplishment. 25 for me before the curtain dropped. Expensive? Naw, marriage is expensive. You get out what you put in should be the way. If not, divorce shouldn't be the answer but it's the only option and it takes your soul. Btw, what does a soul go for these days? Back then, it was 1/2 without regard to what was invested, inherited, and preowned.

    Yep, I know of those DARK places. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
    Last edited by Moses; 10-11-2018 at 03:28 PM.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    The obvious difference in all this is very very simple to deduce: people with jobs are proven money-makers, while people who claim to make money gambling as AP's are largely seen as being as honest as the nearest fisherman. Become vested at many of the more lucrative places of employment and if you're savvy and responsible, you'll be set for life--in funds and benefits. Many however, toss a lot of it away by finding themselves in divorce court. There is a HUGE gap between equal-earning employees who go through a divorce and those who do not.
    Is it common for proven money-makers to declare bankruptcy and stiff landlords ?
    How the heck do you think Trump got so rich?

    But, it is mostly strange for such a so-called professional gambling crowd to hang around gambling sites because they need someone, anyone, to put down.

    Even this realization should be well within the grasps of someone who, perhaps, applies years 1 & 2 (dry) university statistics to a slot machine. Good thing that Crimm finds exactly the same dumb "advantage" over and over, that kids easily tire of, and grow out of in search of greater mysteries and acknowledgment.

    Say, in the land of the shit-pile, everyone is king. (Sorry, I guess that I, like Blackhole, still can't resist responding to the idiocy any type of gambler puts up on the internet.)
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  12. #32
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    it is mostly strange for such a so-called professional gambling crowd
    to hang around gambling sites because they need someone, anyone, to put down.
    Nobody, and I mean NOBODY cares more about Rob Singer than jbjb...that is strange.

    I never understood why they all love to pick on Alan, but thanks for explaining...it's because they need to.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    The obvious difference in all this is very very simple to deduce: people with jobs are proven money-makers, while people who claim to make money gambling as AP's are largely seen as being as honest as the nearest fisherman. Become vested at many of the more lucrative places of employment and if you're savvy and responsible, you'll be set for life--in funds and benefits. Many however, toss a lot of it away by finding themselves in divorce court. There is a HUGE gap between equal-earning employees who go through a divorce and those who do not.
    Is it common for proven money-makers to declare bankruptcy and stiff landlords ?
    How the heck do you think Trump got so rich?

    But, it is mostly strange for such a so-called professional gambling crowd to hang around gambling sites because they need someone, anyone, to put down.

    Even this realization should be well within the grasps of someone who, perhaps, applies years 1 & 2 (dry) university statistics to a slot machine. Good thing that Crimm finds exactly the same dumb "advantage" over and over, that kids easily tire of, and grow out of in search of greater mysteries and acknowledgment.

    Say, in the land of the shit-pile, everyone is king. (Sorry, I guess that I, like Blackhole, still can't resist responding to the idiocy any type of gambler puts up on the internet.)
    You wouldn't know an advantage play if it bit you in the ass. Thats how stupid you are. And only stupid people like you keep going to a site and reading shit over and over again that they dont belueve in. You're braindead.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #34
    Coach, I see the same traits in the sportsbook crowd of regulars. Only it's verbal instead of written. Quite often not said to someone face to face. Some guys get really fired up over politics. They start hollering and then get 86ed. It's the dangest thing I've ever seen.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post

    What Rob is saying (I think) is that there are successful people who are not APs or even gamblers. Will the APs concede that much or will they say everyone who is not an AP is a fool, addict, liar, cheat, scoundral, or whatever the key insult word of the day is?
    There you go trying to think again. Haven't you learned that never goes well?
    Another classic TARD question from the mind of MendleFool.
    Of course there are successful people from all walks of life.
    Max again proves how under-educated he is Are you sure you're not mickey, who's probably in jail again right now? What Alan was saying is that it is overwhelmingly unlikely that there are many successful AP's walking around, while it is highly likely that there are a vast number of working class people that have been very successful throughout life.
    Bumping this old hidden gem of a thread. Started by one of the biggest ploppys, full of laughs and former posters !

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Since Frank Scobelete is credited with the term poppy for describing sub par casino players, and since Frank is an advocate of dice influencing, are all you non-believers in DI also ploppies?
    Scoblete was not the first to use the term, ploppy. He learned it as a member of vpFREE, a video poker forum where the term was frequently used by other members. He just picked it up and started using it himself.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Since Frank Scobelete is credited with the term poppy for describing sub par casino players, and since Frank is an advocate of dice influencing, are all you non-believers in DI also ploppies?
    Scoblete was not the first to use the term, ploppy. He learned it as a member of vpFREE, a video poker forum where the term was frequently used by other members. He just picked it up and started using it himself.
    I guess people take comfort in self-aggrandizing jargon. It promotes a kind of "false dichotomy" thinking. I know this and you don't know that, therefore you are a "ploppy" or a "square." It creates pseudo-categories, an in-crowd security blanket lingo.

  18. #38
    Always hated the term and the way that it is used with such derision without knowing anything about the person. If a guy is not a pro, but is a successful businessman, who likes to play video poker FOR FUN. And if the guy plays 100% perfect strategy (which no-one does), but is playing a 96.5% game, he is often referred to as a ploppy. That couldn't be further from the truth. He is just not a pro. And on the days that the pro plays a 101.5% game and still loses, is he a ploppy that day?

    We have similar terms for the race track. I choose to be more civil and not call them names and quietly appreciate their contributions to my bottom line.

  19. #39
    Ploppies are the loud mouth know-it-alls who think they know what they're talking about but really don't. They are the blackjack players that hassle you when you follow basic strategy and hit A,7 vs 10 but they themselves don't. They're the ones that chastise 3rd base when that persons play causes them to lose.

    And Frank S is a major ploppy himself. He's not an AP. Hes a GAMBLING WRITER pretending to be an AP.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Ploppies are the loud mouth know-it-alls who think they know what they're talking about but really don't. They are the blackjack players that hassle you when you follow basic strategy and hit A,7 vs 10 but they themselves don't. They're the ones that chastise 3rd base when that persons play causes them to lose.

    And Frank S is a major ploppy himself. He's not an AP. Hes a GAMBLING WRITER pretending to be an AP.
    Without delving into this post too deeply, this is exactly how you could very accurately be described: a "loud-mouthed know-it-all". All talk, no balls, and just more talk. Never any support or proof of your claims about others.

    Wise up.

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