Yeez, I thought this forum could actually turn out to be something useful. I guess I got my hopes up after the biggest troublemaker decided to leave. Boy was I wrong. It seems that some of the people active here just love to go on and scratch eachother's eyes out.
Wake up call: all you pro- and con- math people.....YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CONVINCE EACH OTHER. So why don't you just stop and find something else to talk about. Vegas has so much more to offer than VP, craps, positive or negative EV.
End of rant