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  1. #141
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Who is a bigger attention whore overall between Alan and KJ ? Early on, it would have easily gone to Mendelsson. Now it heavily leans towards the UNKOOL1. My pick overall= WINNER UNKOOL1 !
    It's clearly UNKOO1 by a mile or more these days.
    He is on multiple forums posting like never before looking for attention and complaining.
    Personally, I am sticking to the Chink Virus and Movies.
    These days UNKOOL1 pulverizes Alan/Andrew by an insurmountable amount in the attention whoring department. Ironically though, if you were to count the estimated amount of total posts by both of them, Alan/Andrew still likely wins. That's taking into account the Big 4 only = 1- Here 2- PFA 3- GF 4- Rusty's sewer. Alan has VERY UNLIKELY ever posted at GF or PFA. UNKOOL1 has several thousand posts at GF( unsure of exact amount) and with 99.73 % certainty has posted at PFA. Alan has also rarely posted( maybe a few hundred posts) in the last couple of years combined between here and Rusty's dive. It's only a matter of time, before the UNKOOL1 surpasses one of the biggest forum legends of all time the great Alan/Andrew Mendelson !

  2. #142
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    These days UNKOOL1 pulverizes Alan/Andrew by an insurmountable amount in the attention whoring department. Ironically though, if you were to count the estimated amount of total posts by both of them, Alan/Andrew still likely wins. That's taking into account the Big 4 only = 1- Here 2- PFA 3- GF 4- Rusty's sewer. Alan has VERY UNLIKELY ever posted at GF or PFA. UNKOOL1 has several thousand posts at GF( unsure of exact amount) and with 99.73 % certainty has posted at PFA. Alan has also rarely posted( maybe a few hundred posts) in the last couple of years combined between here and Rusty's dive. It's only a matter of time, before the UNKOOL1 surpasses one of the biggest forum legends of all time the great Alan/Andrew Mendelson !

    I have never posted at PFA, so your 99.73% probability loses. What is it Poker Forum something or other? What is the A for? I only post at places where there is blackjack talk. I am a blackjack player, Ozzy. Not the one people have thought but am a professional blackjack player. If you separate out the trolling, and forus on what I say about blackjack, that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

    Ozzy, do you know why I posted here? When GF's was crumbling several years ago (yes I know it is still there but a shell of what it was when the group of AP's was there), so when it was crumbling and we all were bailing, mickeycrimm suggested I come here. Said there was a guy Rob Singer, who I had never heard, that was full of crap, that I might enjoy trolling. It has been a fun run and very beneficial to my career.

  3. #143
    Also a question for Alan/Andrew, Are you going to let a snot nosed UNKOOL1 surpass you into the all time total posts category without a fight? Grow a pair Alan, don't let your forum legacy collapse this way !

  4. #144
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    These days UNKOOL1 pulverizes Alan/Andrew by an insurmountable amount in the attention whoring department. Ironically though, if you were to count the estimated amount of total posts by both of them, Alan/Andrew still likely wins. That's taking into account the Big 4 only = 1- Here 2- PFA 3- GF 4- Rusty's sewer. Alan has VERY UNLIKELY ever posted at GF or PFA. UNKOOL1 has several thousand posts at GF( unsure of exact amount) and with 99.73 % certainty has posted at PFA. Alan has also rarely posted( maybe a few hundred posts) in the last couple of years combined between here and Rusty's dive. It's only a matter of time, before the UNKOOL1 surpasses one of the biggest forum legends of all time the great Alan/Andrew Mendelson !

    I have never posted at PFA, so your 99.73% probability loses. What is it Poker Forum something or other? What is the A for? I only post at places where there is blackjack talk. I am a blackjack player, Ozzy. Not the one people have thought but am a professional blackjack player. If you separate out the trolling, and forus on what I say about blackjack, that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

    Ozzy, do you know why I posted here? When GF's was crumbling several years ago (yes I know it is still there but a shell of what it was when the group of AP's was there), so when it was crumbling and we all were bailing, mickeycrimm suggested I come here. Said there was a guy Rob Singer, who I had never heard, that was full of crap, that I might enjoy trolling. It has been a fun run and very beneficial to my career.
    You of all people, have no interest posting in the Chrissy Kyle Prescott Mitchell thread over at PFA ? It's quite possibly the best thread in forum history. Many guys from here post over there and your one of them. Unless you've been living in a bunker for the last 21 months.

  5. #145
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Also a question for Alan/Andrew, Are you going to let a snot nosed UNKOOL1 surpass you into the all time total posts category without a fight? Grow a pair Alan, don't let your forum legacy collapse this way !
    Well, you are just trolling Alan. But if you have read WoV this morning, his forum legacy is that of a player that has shown every sign of a gambling problem. I really don't say that to be mean. I didn't say it at WoV to be mean. And it isn't something that is defamation. It is just something I honestly thought was accepted common knowledge.

    As Alan points out, I don't know him, other than from his forum postings, but from that I don't think he is a bad guy. I think gambling has been a very negative influence and part of his life, just like millions of people, my own grandfather included.

  6. #146
    Originally Posted by Mission146
    Thank you for the clarification!
    No worries.

    Sometimes you may hear people use the word "venue" when simply describing the particular court they are thinking of, e.g. "the venue is the Federal District court in Portland," and that is simply their way of identifying a particular courthouse.

    But jurisdiction is POWER, venue is CORRECT LOCATION OF THE COURT WITH APPROPRIATE JURISDICTION, generally speaking.
    Last edited by MisterV; 01-07-2022 at 10:43 AM.
    What, Me Worry?

  7. #147
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post

    You of all people, have no interest posting in the Chrissy Kyle Prescott Mitchell thread over at PFA ? It's quite possibly the best thread in forum history. Many guys from here post over there and your one of them. Unless you've been living in a bunker for the last 21 months.
    Oh, PFA is Druffs poker forum. Ok.

    No I have never posted there (I don't think). I read just a bit when he was going off about Christopeher Mitchell. saw no reason to get involved.

  8. #148
    [QUOTE=kewlJ;136937]
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    These days UNKOOL1 pulverizes Alan/Andrew by an insurmountable amount in the attention whoring department. Ironically though, if you were to count the estimated amount of total posts by both of them, Alan/Andrew still likely wins. That's taking into account the Big 4 only = 1- Here 2- PFA 3- GF 4- Rusty's sewer. Alan has VERY UNLIKELY ever posted at GF or PFA. UNKOOL1 has several thousand posts at GF( unsure of exact amount) and with 99.73 % certainty has posted at PFA. Alan has also rarely posted( maybe a few hundred posts) in the last couple of years combined between here and Rusty's dive. It's only a matter of time, before the UNKOOL1 surpasses one of the biggest forum legends of all time the great Alan/Andrew Mendelson !

    What is it Poker Forum something or other? What is the A for?

    I call the most rancid putrid bullshit here. You don't know what the A stands for come on UNKOOL1, you might be whiny and emotionally unstable, but your not a dummy.

  9. #149
    When counting posts don't overlook the blizzard of bullshit posted by Even Bob, aka Spike.

    That boy has posted non-stop on many forums for many years.

    I consider him the king; he made his bones via an incessant need to spew and absolutely no consideration for what others have to say.
    Last edited by MisterV; 01-07-2022 at 11:26 AM.
    What, Me Worry?

  10. #150
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post

    I call the most rancid putrid bullshit here. You don't know what the A stands for come on UNKOOL1, you might be whiny and emotionally unstable, but your not a dummy.

    You can call whatever you want my friend. Not a matter of being a dummy. Just had no interest in it. I also have no interest in all the you tube scammy gambling videos or twitter. I joined twitter to follow mickeycrimm when he was going through his heart attack situation. Looked in half dozen time.

    I don't know how I can be any clearer. My interest is blackjack. It is what I do for a living. I read blackjack forums and network with players and think I know just about everything that occurs in this town blackjack wise. I don't play super high limits rarely betting more than $1000, but even that, I know enough to know when someone is bullshitting, like personal injury lawyer guy.

    And yes I troll the haters on a few of the gambling forums. I am not who they think I am but I still play with them and doing so has benefited my career.

    Is this really that hard to understand or is this forum a collection of people that have some sort of aversion to accepting reality. That is sure what it seems like....a meeting place for twi-light zoners.

    Heading out now. Never really got out except a short time yesterday. Today is even nicer day at 66 degrees and sunny.

    Happy trolling and internet play Ozzy and others.

  11. #151
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    When counting posts don't overlook the blizzard of bullshit posted by Even Bob, aka Spike.

    That boy has posted non-stop on many forums for many years.

    I consider him the king; he made his bones an incessant need to spew and absolutely no consideration for what others have to say.
    It's very obvious Even Bob/ Spike / Stooly is the run away winner, with nobody in sight. Even the AWOL Alex Wolf doesn't even come remotely close. Alan/Andrew considering his lack of posting the last few years could easily be in 2nd ahead of Alex had he not basically threw the towel in.

  12. #152
    KJ previously announced his intention to fight back against his haters and to troll the trollers, so I am not surprised by recent goings-on with him.

    Not that he was ever quiet before; he just seems to be focusing more on offense than defense these days.
    What, Me Worry?

  13. #153
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post

    I call the most rancid putrid bullshit here. You don't know what the A stands for come on UNKOOL1, you might be whiny and emotionally unstable, but your not a dummy.

    You can call whatever you want my friend. Not a matter of being a dummy. Just had no interest in it. I also have no interest in all the you tube scammy gambling videos or twitter. I joined twitter to follow mickeycrimm when he was going through his heart attack situation. Looked in half dozen time.

    I don't know how I can be any clearer. My interest is blackjack. It is what I do for a living. I read blackjack forums and network with players and think I know just about everything that occurs in this town blackjack wise. I don't play super high limits rarely betting more than $1000, but even that, I know enough to know when someone is bullshitting, like personal injury lawyer guy.

    And yes I troll the haters on a few of the gambling forums. I am not who they think I am but I still play with them and doing so has benefited my career.

    Is this really that hard to understand or is this forum a collection of people that have some sort of aversion to accepting reality. That is sure what it seems like....a meeting place for twi-light zoners.

    Heading out now. Never really got out except a short time yesterday. Today is even nicer day at 66 degrees and sunny.

    Happy trolling and internet play Ozzy and others.

    I think coach got it. That's why you have crickets. Rob surely got it. He spends so much time inventing stupid shit and yanking his own chain that I'm sure the light bulb went on. Next he'll explain that he knew it all the time. He was just playing along. In his Newell. Between CIA assignments.

    LOL. But maybe I give coach too much credit. It did take him a day to understand my cousin, "E.R.Dietz."

  14. #154
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Also a question for Alan/Andrew, Are you going to let a snot nosed UNKOOL1 surpass you into the all time total posts category without a fight? Grow a pair Alan, don't let your forum legacy collapse this way !
    Well, you are just trolling Alan. But if you have read WoV this morning, his forum legacy is that of a player that has shown every sign of a gambling problem. I really don't say that to be mean. I didn't say it at WoV to be mean. And it isn't something that is defamation. It is just something I honestly thought was accepted common knowledge.

    As Alan points out, I don't know him, other than from his forum postings, but from that I don't think he is a bad guy. I think gambling has been a very negative influence and part of his life, just like millions of people, my own grandfather included.
    Let's suppose that your theory is correct---just for the sake of argument. You're basically slapping a 70-year old dude in the face with the notion that one thing that he clearly still very much enjoys and enjoys discussing is his ruination.

    Alan's not out there making any kind of false claims to winning, not trying to sell anything and is, far as I can tell, a generally nice guy. Just leave him be. He's not hurting anyone other than, in your theory, himself...and what he does to himself is his own business.

    Even if you were right and Alan took what you said to heart, what is that going to improve for him? He probably doesn't have a lot of time left. He's an old guy who really enjoys gambling and you're basically using that to hammer away at him. No offense meant...and it is possible you think that you're somehow being helpful.

    But, seriously, even if you were right...what would he do about it, at this point? Even if there were something to be done, what would make it even worth doing?

  15. #155
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post

    Let's suppose that your theory is correct---just for the sake of argument. You're basically slapping a 70-year old dude in the face with the notion that one thing that he clearly still very much enjoys and enjoys discussing is his ruination.

    Alan's not out there making any kind of false claims to winning, not trying to sell anything and is, far as I can tell, a generally nice guy. Just leave him be. He's not hurting anyone other than, in your theory, himself...and what he does to himself is his own business.

    Even if you were right and Alan took what you said to heart, what is that going to improve for him? He probably doesn't have a lot of time left. He's an old guy who really enjoys gambling and you're basically using that to hammer away at him. No offense meant...and it is possible you think that you're somehow being helpful.
    I wasn't trying to save Alan from himself, Mission. Nor humiliate him. I think the way he has been living is fine. An apartment in Vegas, near the casinos and games he enjoys. Just like many, many others in this town, after paying his living expenses, he spends what extra or disposable money he has at the casinos until it is gone and then waits for next month. That is his choice and absolutely fine.

    But for such a person to give up their apartment and home, or even consider or "look in to that" is a whole different level and especially at 70 years old. THAT is how people end up living in their car or in the tunnels under the strip. Just that consideration process is cause for concern and that's all I was, concerned for a guy that while I don't know him personally, wouldn't want to see him head down that path. I am glad he decided not to. It is still a concern that he looked into it. I just don't think he can hear enough from different people what a terrible idea that would have been.

    I know Alan is a proud man, proud of his career and all, which I honestly don't know much about. I can see where he was offended, but I honestly thought it was kind of accepted knowledge that he has shown signs of problem gambling.

  16. #156
    Just for the hell of it I will share that I spoke informally to an attorney friend last night on the phone. Liable / defamation cases aren't his specialty, but his opinion is what I said does not come close to defamation. His opinion is actually stronger than that in that he doesn't believe you CAN defame someone on an anonymous internet forum or chat room. I questioned as to a person using their real name and he said "who says that is their real name and identity?" Who says someone posting as John Smith is actually John Smith?" I didn't have an answer for that. Does anyone? redietz? MrV? Mission?

    During the conversation he also said everyone that posts on gambling forums likely has a gambling problem. My immediate response was what about AP's? He said winning doesn't change anything, just masks and covers the problem. Yikes! I told him we would have to save that discussion for another day.

  17. #157
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post

    Let's suppose that your theory is correct---just for the sake of argument. You're basically slapping a 70-year old dude in the face with the notion that one thing that he clearly still very much enjoys and enjoys discussing is his ruination.

    Alan's not out there making any kind of false claims to winning, not trying to sell anything and is, far as I can tell, a generally nice guy. Just leave him be. He's not hurting anyone other than, in your theory, himself...and what he does to himself is his own business.

    Even if you were right and Alan took what you said to heart, what is that going to improve for him? He probably doesn't have a lot of time left. He's an old guy who really enjoys gambling and you're basically using that to hammer away at him. No offense meant...and it is possible you think that you're somehow being helpful.
    I wasn't trying to save Alan from himself, Mission. Nor humiliate him. I think the way he has been living is fine. An apartment in Vegas, near the casinos and games he enjoys. Just like many, many others in this town, after paying his living expenses, he spends what extra or disposable money he has at the casinos until it is gone and then waits for next month. That is his choice and absolutely fine.

    But for such a person to give up their apartment and home, or even consider or "look in to that" is a whole different level and especially at 70 years old. THAT is how people end up living in their car or in the tunnels under the strip. Just that consideration process is cause for concern and that's all I was, concerned for a guy that while I don't know him personally, wouldn't want to see him head down that path. I am glad he decided not to. It is still a concern that he looked into it. I just don't think he can hear enough from different people what a terrible idea that would have been.

    I know Alan is a proud man, proud of his career and all, which I honestly don't know much about. I can see where he was offended, but I honestly thought it was kind of accepted knowledge that he has shown signs of problem gambling.
    Even if he had considered it at all, which he denies doing, that doesn't change the fact that the ultimate tone of his post indicated that such a thing wouldn't be for him. You can claim whatever altruistic thing about it you want, but I think you were taking a shot at him in that thread. I didn't say that over there because I didn't want my opinion to influence what Administration decided to do. I am glad that you didn't get a longer ban or get Nuked.

    I don't clear you on the, "Signs of problem gambling," thing because what difference does it make? He's an old dude that enjoys gambling and talking about gambling. I'm just happy for him that he enjoys something. The fuck is he going to do if he stops gambling? Enroll at a University, go to medical school, become a cardiologist? No. He's got one leg fully in the grave and half of the other and here you are bullying him.

    Most importantly, I honestly did not interpret his post as actually thinking about doing that in any way whatsoever. I interpreted it as wondering if such a thing is even possible for a player at his level.

  18. #158
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Just for the hell of it I will share that I spoke informally to an attorney friend last night on the phone. Liable / defamation cases aren't his specialty, but his opinion is what I said does not come close to defamation. His opinion is actually stronger than that in that he doesn't believe you CAN defame someone on an anonymous internet forum or chat room. I questioned as to a person using their real name and he said "who says that is their real name and identity?" Who says someone posting as John Smith is actually John Smith?" I didn't have an answer for that. Does anyone? redietz? MrV? Mission?

    During the conversation he also said everyone that posts on gambling forums likely has a gambling problem. My immediate response was what about AP's? He said winning doesn't change anything, just masks and covers the problem. Yikes! I told him we would have to save that discussion for another day.
    My answer to the first part would simply be that AlanMendelson has pretty concretely demonstrated that he is AlanMendelson. There are multiple people on the forum, over the years, who have met AlanMendelson in person and say that is him.

    For example, if you knew me off of the forums, and then I go on the forums and say something that you know only I (the physical person) could know, then wouldn't that prove the poster is me?

    Anyway, I don't know anything about defamation laws, so I don't have anything else to say about it other than it is possible to know that a poster is the person they claim to be.

    What, did he say, "Likely has a gambling problem?" I don't know. If he meant, "Likely," as more than 50% of the time, then I disagree. I would say that someone who posts on a gambling forum is more likely to have a gambling problem than someone just snatched out of a crowd randomly. They've already demonstrated more than the usual interest in the subject of gambling, obviously.

  19. #159
    Who cares?

    How many pages does it take to determine Mendelbread is a degenerate gambling addict, Crimm is a a Man Serving hobo, and Grandpa Newell is the GOAT mooch?

    But carry on because we all enjoy having something to read.
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  20. #160
    On my phone so will keep it short (for me).

    I don't doubt Alan is Alan or Redietz who he says or anyone else using a name that I am familiar with or not. Just found it to be an interesting point.

    MaxPen: ur a bit of a nut.

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