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  1. #261
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I'm gonna state the obvious. Apply Ockham's Razor.

    If you think kewlJ is a professional blackjack player, what is more likely:

    (1) The internet persona with its life events.
    (2) The internet persona and life events as a mirage.

    To me, it's not even close.
    (3) Fuck Off and go slurp noodles with your slant eyed girlfriend.

  2. #262
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And if people can't separate what I share about blackjack and some of the way I apply techniques, from the digital disguise I have employed....well again, that is on them. Welcome to the world of casino advantage play in the 21st century.
    You're a nut bro. I've always been suspect about you even being a professional blackjack player but people who know more than me insist you are - yet no one verifiable has ever met you. Now you're claiming you lied about your sexual orientation for years to throw off the casinos? Clearly you lie more than is needed whatever the truth is here. It should throw everything you say into question.

    This is not the "world of casino advantage play" anymore than Zenkings rants.

    I'm gonna state the obvious. Apply Ockham's Razor.

    If you think kewlJ is a professional blackjack player, what is more likely:

    (1) The internet persona with its life events.
    (2) The internet persona and life events as a mirage.

    To me, it's not even close.
    There is far more to it and a ton of subtlty and context. I mean unless the guy is locked up, he has played blackjack. So I'm sure some of the stuff is true but the dude is suspect as a whole. Anyway I have no real concern to prove it or interest in it, but the non-stop lying should make one pause to consider.

    You have to realize that on the internet, there are exceptional characters who concoct stories about their lifestyle for years on end. It is like catfishing, but quite a bit different. These people exist. I've seen them before. Is Kewl one of them? Maybe he plays blackjack a lot and is +EV. Who knows.. but believing him because he has said something would be far from wise at this point.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  3. #263
    Gotta wonder one thing, KJ, about your reverse "coming outa" yarn: "Why tell us now?"

    If your aim in creating a gay online persona was to deter snoops from the casino from finding out real info about you, why stop now?

    One would think you'd want to keep up the charade, at least if it was working.

    Now that the casinos know the truth their net will most likely descend upon you a bit sooner, yes?

    You faked your death before; now if you're being truthful (and who the hell can tell anymore?) you faked your life as well.

    A shadow puppet.
    What, Me Worry?

  4. #264
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    but believing him because he has said something would be far from wise at this point.
    I don't think I have asked anybody to believe anything "just because I said so".

    It is my belief that people can and should be able to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. To do that you certainly have to be able to separate out the personal stuff and attacks and trolling and just focus on what the person says in reference to their gambling experiences. This is an extention of the ability to read people, while often attributed as a poker quality, a very necessary thing for all AP's.

    I think the mistake I have made with my "doesn't take all that much to figure out" thinking, is failing to realize that some people go into the process with a bias. In this case about sexuality or perceived sexuality, but doesn't really matter what it is. Could just as easily be political positions, race, or any number of things. So someone going in with a bias of not liking someone, is probably going to fail at the "doesn't take that much to see" test, because they will undoubtedly see what they want to see.

    See, I tend to look at it if people haven't figured out that I know what I am talking about after all this time, after the blackhole exhibition, I just tend to think they are an idiot. I guess failed to recognize that there are definitely some people beyond any point of objectivity. Anyway, whatever. Think what you like.

  5. #265
    Not quite sure just WHAT to think.

    Your opening statement was "I don't think I have asked anybody to believe anything "just because I said so"."

    That is a pile of bullshit and you know it.

    For years, literally, you told us how you like to suck dick, that you weren't a bottom, etc.: lots of seemingly personal info posted by you ostensibly about you, and now you say we shouldn't believe you "Just because I said so?"

    Does not compute: we ALL say / post post things about ourselves and the obvious reason for doing so is we wish to be believed.

    You're worse than the boy who cried wolf; you're more like the guy below in the Rollins Band ...

    What, Me Worry?

  6. #266
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Not quite sure just WHAT to think.

    Your opening statement was "I don't think I have asked anybody to believe anything "just because I said so"."

    That is a pile of bullshit and you know it.

    For years, literally, you told us how you like to suck dick, that you weren't a bottom, etc.: lots of seemingly personal info posted by you ostensibly about you, and now you say we shouldn't believe you "Just because I said so?"

    Does not compute: we ALL say / post post things about ourselves and the obvious reason for doing so is we wish to be believed.

    You're worse than the boy who cried wolf; you're more like the guy below in the Rollins Band ...
    V, you are obsessed with the sex stuff. Always have been. Not homophobically, like the hater group obsessed, just fascination obsessed.

    But in your post you ask the real question: Why would a professional blackjack player who managed to stay a step ahead for 12 years reveal all that? 3 letters? WHY?

  7. #267
    KJ, I mentioned the sex stuff because it is an example of the ostensibly very personal info about yourself that you posted.

    But yeah: WHY?

    Surely you must realize that this latest admission puts your credibility level well below the horizon?

    Hope it was worth it.
    What, Me Worry?

  8. #268
    It is almost like Kewl decided he was sorta winning the war with Rob and somehow needed to fuck it up for himself with nonsense.

    Obviously whoever kewl is, he needs attention more than anything. His AP talk works, people listen to him and respect him. It is all the sort of stuff you pick up reading forums and books. Oh there was a table play.. then it goes away before anyone knows about it but kewl knew The AP he is that doesn't network or need to network SOMEHOW knew about this play that no other seasoned AP has hinted at knowing? Just endless stuff which none can be verified.

    Whatever. It is fun playing sleuth.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  9. #269
    I just don't know who the, 'Gay,' thing is supposedly throwing off. Is the idea that casinos would assume that this person would be a, "Flamboyantly," gay card counter?

    Like, you're going to have the casinos so busy looking for flamboyantly gay card counters (even though nothing that you have ever said would point to you being flamboyant) that they're going to miss all the straight ones?

    Honestly, I just don't completely understand your motivations for (as you now claim) lying about that. I'd automatically kind of figured anything about physical appearance (not that I ever remember you even saying anything) would be automatically untrue, of course. It just seems to me that being gay wouldn't even be relevant from the standpoint of the casinos. Do you think the casinos are looking for someone like Nathan Lane's character stepping directly out of The Birdcage? My limited experience with gay people is that, most of the time, you wouldn't even know if they didn't tell you...of course, that's not always true and is sometimes very untrue.

  10. #270
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, I mentioned the sex stuff because it is an example of the ostensibly very personal info about yourself that you posted.

    You still don't seem to be able to separate out the personal trolling shit from discussion that exhibit one's knowledge about what they do and how they do it. On this forum we have trolling and personal attacks. Wasn't there a long running discussion about the size of someone's dick? These things are sperate from legit gambling discussions. I mean actually I have argued all that crap shouldn't be here, but the argument has always fallen on deaf ears. So that leaves people to separate it out.

    I'll give you two examples:

    Mickeycrimm. For years mickey was one of the more active trolls against Rob Singer, before their new "bonding". Mickey said some of the nastiest (much of it true) crap about Singer. And still does about some others. None of that means a damn thing when it comes to mickey being the machine Ap that he is. If you separate the two out, there is no doubt based on the discussions of AP.

    example #2. Probably 3 or 4 pages back in The Las Vegas section (I am not going to link to it, just remind you) there is a 20 page thread entitled "kewlj, blackjack myth, fact or fiction" or something close to it, started by blackhole last year. If you read that thread, blackhole attempts to discredit everything I ever said about blackjack and I answer each and every one of those attempts with precise information explaining everything I do, how and why I do it. Mickeycrim, who as I said, isn't exactly a fan of mine these days called it a blackjack card counting clinic.

    V, because this forum has all the other stuff, you have to separate out the real stuff from the "fluff". If you have read everything, even anything I have written over the years and shared about blackjack card counting, how I apply different techniques and why and you come away finding me not credible as you just stated....well really, I don't even know what to say. But you aren't separating out the two....lets put it that way.

  11. #271
    I hope Blackhole is doing well and, if he still reads here, would like him to send me a PM on DiversityTomorrow and I'd give him a call and shoot the shit if he ever wanted to. It's a shame that he was Nuked from here at the exact time that his posts were becoming highly interesting.

  12. #272
    Whatever you say, KJ, whatever you say.

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    What, Me Worry?

  13. #273
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I just don't know who the, 'Gay,' thing is supposedly throwing off. Is the idea that casinos would assume that this person would be a, "Flamboyantly," gay card counter?
    The gay "thing" was only one characteristic of the whole thing. I have dropped dates that indicate my age. That 5'9", 160 lbs description that Ozzy keeps repeating, that he thinks he stumbled on....where did that come from? I have mentioned it along with that I was within 5 lbs of my weight in high school when I played baseball at 150 lbs.

    People didn't come up with these things. I planted these things. And guess what, I am NOT 5'9", 155-160 lbs, blond hair blue eyes. Nor am I the age I planted. You put that all together with the gay characteristic and anyone looking for me, casino industry people as well as these trolls, which really wasn't part of the plan, where looking for a ghost.

    And here is another thing. I went to and graduated college. I am not going to say where although I believe I have mentioned what my favorite college sports team is in some sports threads.

    3 things I received from my father. Pretty good genes. His good name. And the ability to go to college because as a federal employee killed on the job, that is a benefit to surviving children.

    So the gay thing was just a small piece. I presented a disguise of who I am, so that I could share some of my blackjack experiences almost in real time without danger.

  14. #274
    Nonsense.

    You made it up because you enjoy that sort of shit.

    Whether you suck dick or eat pussy makes no difference at a BJ table.
    What, Me Worry?

  15. #275
    I mean, I guess, but I don't really see what the difference is between BEING a ghost and giving them a ghost to chase. Put another way, I don't really see any advantageous difference between lying and simply not saying anything at all when it comes to sexuality, background or physical appearance. The casinos analyzing your play, for example, don't know or care if you went to college or where.

    I don't remember you ever saying anything about your physical appearance (not the sort of thing I'd remember), but again, I would have assumed any physical description is untrue. I could have swore you said you were around my height once (6'3") but that could be faulty memory.

    Well, were you or not ever homeless as a kid? Never mind. I'm not going to really believe any answer and it doesn't matter anyway. That, working Atlantic City in your early years, etc. etc...could be true or untrue, but I guess that was always kind of the case.

    Anyway, I still don't see how certain aspects of the misinformation are at all helpful to you, but you do you. I'm not saying that you would do well to put EVERYTHING out there with 100% accuracy; I just don't see the difference between giving intentional misinformation and saying nothing at all as to certain matters.

  16. #276
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I hope Blackhole is doing well and, if he still reads here, would like him to send me a PM on DiversityTomorrow and I'd give him a call and shoot the shit if he ever wanted to. It's a shame that he was Nuked from here at the exact time that his posts were becoming highly interesting.
    Pretty ironic - when he posted insults he was tolerated, but as soon as he started posting great insights into the horse racing biz he was banned. Thanks Dan.

  17. #277
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    It is almost like Kewl decided he was sorta winning the war with Rob and somehow needed to fuck it up for himself with nonsense.

    Obviously whoever kewl is, he needs attention more than anything. His AP talk works, people listen to him and respect him. It is all the sort of stuff you pick up reading forums and books. Oh there was a table play.. then it goes away before anyone knows about it but kewl knew The AP he is that doesn't network or need to network SOMEHOW knew about this play that no other seasoned AP has hinted at knowing? Just endless stuff which none can be verified.

    Whatever. It is fun playing sleuth.
    Look, I honestly don't give a fuck about Rob. I really don't. The Rob thing ended when MaxPen exposed him. I like to think I helped a little, but it was mostly MaxPen. And then Rob panicked, did the interview with Wizard where he was asked for proof of the RV which he said he spent the money on, forcing Rob into the great RV showroom picture fiasco. The panic move of all time. After that I am just playing with Rob. Having a little fun with the troll.

    As for this play that I knew that no one else did. The play was shutdown when just about every table game AP in the area showed up fighting for a seat. How can you say others didn't know. I know faces. I don't know screen names or if they are on this forum.

    And the AP that gave me that play: I assume everyone knows who he is. My only AP friend (well 1 of 2) that I have met. Friend probably is a little strong a word. We did business 4-5 years ago when I sold him the shuffle machine I had acquired at cost. He promised to throw me a couple small plays. The first play he gave was practically dead when he gave it to me. I got very little from it. This one he thought would last a couple days. I got lucky and we got much more out of it. Probably will be the last play he gives me. But again, I assume some AP's know who he is and can ask him if they feel the need.

  18. #278
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    My limited experience with gay people is that, most of the time, you wouldn't even know if they didn't tell you...of course, that's not always true and is sometimes very untrue.
    Limited Experience??
    Your sister is queer.
    You have more than a limited amount of experience with gay people.
    Aren't you the guy in the Hotel Business who has seen every sort and knows all about different types of people??
    Make up your mind.
    Stop flip flopping like QueerJ.

  19. #279
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Pretty ironic - when he posted insults he was tolerated, but as soon as he started posting great insights into the horse racing biz he was banned. Thanks Dan.
    Not exactly true.
    Dan had been warning Blackhole for a long time about his trolling.
    Blackhole couldn't stop posting an annoying violin youtube video even after he was warned about it.
    I may or may not have pushed Blackhole into being more aggressive with his agitating Dan Druff.

  20. #280
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    I hope Blackhole is doing well and, if he still reads here, would like him to send me a PM on DiversityTomorrow and I'd give him a call and shoot the shit if he ever wanted to. It's a shame that he was Nuked from here at the exact time that his posts were becoming highly interesting.
    Pretty ironic - when he posted insults he was tolerated, but as soon as he started posting great insights into the horse racing biz he was banned. Thanks Dan.
    Let's hope he's now dead!

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