Injured at Caesars Palace

[blackhole]

Quote from Alan's letter. "I did not manufacture or create this injury to bilk Caesars Palace. I had a real injury. I suffered pain and discomfort, and from the subsequent infection I lost several days of work as a skin infection spread over large parts of my body. I did not threaten to sue Caesars Palace for huge amounts of money. My intentions were honorable and I was hoping for some just compensation and consideration for the injury. Instead, I got a claims supervisor who said "sue."

Really? Do I have to sue? Again, is this how you treat loyal customers, hotel guests and Seven Star members who have been coming to stay and play at Caesars for nearly 20 years?"


This quote above doesn’t sound like someone looking for a couple of doctor visits and prescriptions paid for. He lost several days of work, skin infections spreading over his body suffering from pain and discomfort. Then in the next sentence says he’s honorable and just wanted some compensation for all that.

Caesars lawyers can’t be dumb enough to offer anything without a release form. I’m certain any offer will be verbal and require a signature before moving forward with any settlement.

I know my opinion is against the majority here, but if you want to discuss matters like this in the public's eyes, then so be it.

[jbjb]

So if someone rams their vehicle into yours and it puts you out of commission our in the hospital for a while, you won't want anything except your vehicle to be fixed?

[blackhole]

Blackhole is the "AP is a fraud" guy.

And if I recall correctly, I believe Alan only wanted the medical bills paid. I don't think he's running a con here.

You said this not me.

[james40]

You said this not me.

Still an asshole.

[jbjb]

You said this not me.

Sure. He also should be compensated for pain and suffering. My point is, I don't think he did this on purpose as you propose looking for a large payday.

[blackhole]

Sure. He also should be compensated for pain and suffering. My point is, I don't think he did this on purpose as you propose looking for a large payday.

No one ever said he did this on purpose. Like I said in my first post “I believe Alan’s only intention with this injury was to get some free play money.”

He already knew a wound that could be covered with a small Band-Aid shown in the pictures on his site wasn’t going to get him any windfall. He played what did happen to the max. The videos of the fast door, the bloody jacket, the super close up of the cut, the blow by blow posts of the pain and suffering, etc.

He couldn’t get them to accept any liability from the very beginning. They wouldn’t even replace the jacket because of the accident, and only comped it like a meal.

Alan knows exactly what he’s doing and how to use the forums like bargaining chips when it comes to casinos. This is not his first rodeo.

Feel bad for the guy that rear ends his car.

[jbjb]

Maybe it's just a good "AP" play on his part.

I personally subscribe to the James Grosjean model about casinos. They're vile places and deserve everything that happens to them.

[redietz]

I think Stephen King got it right when, at the end of The Stand, the place gets nuked.

[Dan Druff]

Blackhole is in New Jersey.

I am not sure who it is, though there's a good chance I banned him at some point when we had that invasion of a bunch of guys from another forum.

If he isn't too disruptive/trolling here, he can stay.

[Dan Druff]

It does look like I called it 100% correctly regarding the lawyer situation. I knew that was the wrong approach.

Alan, I would suggest asking for $2k + out of pocket medical expenses, in return for signing a waiver agreeing that you will not seek further damages over this matter, and that you acknowledge they are not admitting fault.

Decent chance they go for it at this point.

[Alan Mendelson]

It does look like I called it 100% correctly regarding the lawyer situation. I knew that was the wrong approach.

For the record, we didn't approach. As I wrote earlier... when I receive a legal-looking document I give it to my lawyer to handle. All we did was respond to the requests for information. We approached nothing and made no requests. We left it up to the third-party representative to tell us what they were going to do.

Their response was "we have no liability" and "sue."

My approach was my own letter.

[Dan Druff]

For the record, we didn't approach. As I wrote earlier... when I receive a legal-looking document I give it to my lawyer to handle. All we did was respond to the requests for information. We approached nothing and made no requests. We left it up to the third-party representative to tell us what they were going to do.

Their response was "we have no liability" and "sue."

My approach was my own letter.

But how did they know you had a lawyer?

I really think if you approached with no lawyer and stated specifically what you were looking for (and a willingness to waive rights to pursue it beyond that), you might have gotten positive results.

[regnis]

1. We all know who Blackhole is.
2. There is nothing wrong with having a lawyer in this type of injury claim, and you are way off base if you think the presence of an attorney actually is a hindrance. Usually, an insurer or claim processor will not even take you seriously without an attorney, as they know they can walk all over you. It is only the threat of costly litigation and effective representation that will usually move the matter forward.

I made the mistake of trying to work with the insurance company (I am a lawyer but I do trusts and estates, not injury claims) when I was nearly killed while stopped at a stop sign. Neither of the other drivers had good insurance and I tried to work with my insurance company. I required surgery and 2 years of physical therapy. While they were paying for the medical they refused any loss of income or pain and suffering. Finally, I brought in an attorney that specialized in injury claims. We got it settled rather quickly. You need that threat to stop them from dragging their feet.

So actually, I think Alan made a mistake by dropping his attorney. Let the attorney correspond with the claims person and relay the info back to Alan. Nothing is gained by eliminating the attorney.

[Dan Druff]

1. We all know who Blackhole is.
2. There is nothing wrong with having a lawyer in this type of injury claim, and you are way off base if you think the presence of an attorney actually is a hindrance. Usually, an insurer or claim processor will not even take you seriously without an attorney, as they know they can walk all over you. It is only the threat of costly litigation and effective representation that will usually move the matter forward.

I made the mistake of trying to work with the insurance company (I am a lawyer but I do trusts and estates, not injury claims) when I was nearly killed while stopped at a stop sign. Neither of the other drivers had good insurance and I tried to work with my insurance company. I required surgery and 2 years of physical therapy. While they were paying for the medical they refused any loss of income or pain and suffering. Finally, I brought in an attorney that specialized in injury claims. We got it settled rather quickly. You need that threat to stop them from dragging their feet.

So actually, I think Alan made a mistake by dropping his attorney. Let the attorney correspond with the claims person and relay the info back to Alan. Nothing is gained by eliminating the attorney.

Traffic accidents are a different matter. There I agree an attorney can only help, and not hurt.

In this case, Alan was only looking for a small amount of money. Therefore, he should have kept it simple, made his demands, and seen where he could get. He could always bring the attorney into the situation if that were to fail.

CET and their third party insurance claims firm are likely afraid to admit to anything right now, for fear that he could potentially bring a big lawsuit against them.

[james40]

Whatever you get Alan, it had better be quick. An $11 billion dollar hole just opened in the budget. Wonder what the paytables will look like now?

[Alan Mendelson]

Whatever you get Alan, it had better be quick. An $11 billion dollar hole just opened in the budget. Wonder what the paytables will look like now?

I started another thread about the bankruptcy judge's decision. I think this means the break up of the Caesars empire.

Remember that thread about the value of Total Rewards? We might soon find out.

[blackhole]

Blackhole is in New Jersey.

I am not sure who it is, though there's a good chance I banned him at some point when we had that invasion of a bunch of guys from another forum.

If he isn't too disruptive/trolling here, he can stay.

It’s obvious your friends with Alan and I understand and respect your defense for him. Yet, suggesting my posts are disruptive / trolling when instead are my actual feelings and opinions open for debate is creative to say the least.

You never banned me before and I’m much too old to be joining any childish group of guys from another forum to invade yours.

I gambled all of my adult life and being retired still do but not as much. I visit many gambling forums and join some if I want to respond and always shot from the hip.

I’ve been banned twice from the WOV, in fact just reinstated yesterday simply for calling things the way I see it. I challenged AP’s over there and when they can no longer respond with logical debate and feel trapped in a corner they attack and accuse you of being a sock puppet, trolling, being disruptive and insulting. Yet, their insults go unacknowledged.

For an example here already look at “james40” immediate responses to my posts. He called me aliases, jealous friend, asshole (several times), anti-semitic, idiotic, and swears he knows me and I’ll put my tail between my legs soon and run like a scared dog. Not a single word or response to those comments by you. But I’m the disruptive troll.

If you prefer I lie and pretend to be sympathetic to Alan’s actions then you might as well ban me cause that’s not who I am.

[blackhole]

1. We all know who Blackhole is.

If you know who I am that I stand for what I believe till proven otherwise based on my posts at other forums I'll go with that. If not your crystal ball let you down again.

[Alan Mendelson]

Blackhole you seem like a reasonable and intelligent fellow, so let me ask: What Would Blackhole Do?

You are walking through an entrance door into a lobby at Caesars Palace and when you step through the door you notice your right hand is covered with blood and there is blood covering the pocket area of your jacket where your hand touched the jacket; there is blood on your pants and on your shoes. Suddenly you feel the pain that comes from your hand being hit and then cut. You are bandaged and treated by security. Two days later you are home and the pain and bleeding continue so you visit a doctor who gives you a tetanus shot and puts you on a heavy duty antibiotic (CIPRO) because you have had a kidney/pancreas transplant, and your immune system was compromised, and you were cut with a deep wound that might not have been properly cleaned by the paramedic at the casino. The bleeding continues for more than a week and then one day the wound opens while you are holding a microphone while performing your job and there is blood dripping down your hand. The flap of skin from the wound is having trouble healing properly, and then, you discover a skin infection which your doctor calls a secondary infection and you are put on more medications. The wound finally heals and a small scar remains; the secondary infection has also healed but for a few days you had painful irritations in your groin area where a fungus infection can easily grow because of the infection and your weakened immune system.

The hotel's risk management department asks you for a report about your injury and treatment and it is provided to them including the doctor reports and copies of all bills and insurance payments.

Then, the hotel's risk management department says they are not at fault and if you want to sue them go ahead. But you never said you wanted to sue and you hoped that the hotel would show some concern for your injury and maybe do something "nice" for you considering what you went through for several weeks.

So, considering all that, What Would Blackhole Do?

[blackhole]

So, considering all that, What Would Blackhole Do?

C’mon Alan you’re as old as me, you know exactly the right way to do things if you were looking for the right results. If your injury was as serious as you made it sound, you hire a good lawyer, give all your evidence to him/her, stop going to that casino and listen to the lawyers every command. The first thing he would have said is not to discuss this with anyone except me and your doctor. If he knew you wanted to discuss the process on a public forum he wouldn’t take the case. If he found out later you were discussing it on a forum (actually two forums) he would resign himself from the case. So, please let’s stop with all the drama.

The claim of you just wanting to act honorable really made you sound obvious. You said yourself you’ve been going and staying there for twenty years. I would assume if this was one of your favorite visited resorts, this is the place that would hold most of your losses. We all know they’re in financial trouble and might sooner or later sell out to new owners. How honorable are they running off with all the money they took from you?

Your injury sounds pretty serious and yet you want to be honorable? What is it you feel you owe them? You sound awfully anxious for any type of settlement. Sorry Alan but things are not adding up.

Also in your last post it still sounds like your lawyer is involved with this case. Is he entitled to the typical 33.3% fee for any recovered monies or settlements?

Respecting you at your age for wisdom and experience, you dropped the ball on this one. You made yourself look bad just hoping for some free play action at your level of play.


Disclaimer: Nothing said above or in any of my posts are confirmed fact. These posts are just my opinions and feelings about what I read on a public forum.