kewlJ can we have a Rob Singer update?

[Dan Druff]

Here's my records in betting the various sports this season:

NHL: 3-2, +1.54 units
NCAA Basketball: 37.5 wins, 44 losses, 1.5 ties, -8.04 units (I'll explain the .5 thing at the bottom)
NBA: 34-39-2, -6.43 units
NFL: 46-22-1, +25.93 units
NCAA Football: 47-39-1, +8.66 units
MLB 2022: 59-62-2, +3.35 units

Each bet is 1 unit, no matter what. This way it is easy to keep track of my real profitability here. Other handicappers play with "units" by just increasing them when losing, while not actually increasing their real-life bets for that amount, in order to falsify a winning record. I have to use units because I sometimes bet moneylines, so obviously a +190 win is not the same as a -110 spread win. I am assuming a -110 spread or totals line unless otherwise stated, even though I personally can often get better (via lower juice books).

The one exception to the "1 unit" thing is something I started doing in NCAA Basketball, where I make a "split pick" on the same game -- 2 picks for 0.5 units each. It will usually be a moneyline on the first half and the spread for the entire game. So that's why I have a 0.5 win and 0.5 tie in that sport, which actually occurred tonight when I tied the first half.

Anyway, as you can see above, I am +25.01 units up total, over 442 picks. However, in sports other than NFL, I am down overall 0.92 units. I've had an outlier NFL season, obviously.

In short, sports handicapping is hard, unless you really study props, find weak spots, and can get action down (the hardest part).

[AxelWolf]

I like Billy Walters, and I can't ignore his net worth. This is no judgment on him. This is just me talking about Handicapping and showing where not using math while gambling will probably lead you I.E handicapping. Unless you are freerolling/making money from clients or whatever( there's nothing wrong with that if you're the one making the free money). But, from an AP or ploppy standpoint, you decide if handycapping is a viable endeavor(especially when paying a cut for a service). Or, if using mathematical advantages, bonuses, promotions, etc(very hard to lose when done correctly) would actually be better.

One should also assume no previous ownership of a car dealership or income from bookmaking, or rich parents to fall back on. Also, ask yourself if you'll need runners(Illegal?) or if apps and online betting will be sufficient until they shut them down/limited. That could happen regardless of what method you use if you're winning.

"Billy has once narrated his experiences after gambling where he lost his home. He had gone back home to inform his then second wife that he had lost the house they were living to gambling and they might have to move as soon as possible. Although they did not move from the house but it took him a total of eighteen months to pay off the appropriate mortgage on the house. Now, this was not the first time he would come home after he lost his home and definitely not the last. According to Walters, he had returned home at least fifteen times to tell some similar stories of how he lost his home and basically everything. Well, not everyone could take the uncertainty and unpredictability from a man. It was not a surprise therefore when his second wife left him after a series of losses.



Walters has not always been a successful gambler. As a matter of fact, up till late 1982, he was a losing gambler. He lost a total of $25,000 USD by the time he reached the age of 22. By the age of 25, he had already lost $50,000. In 1982, he lost his home from pitching nickels. He lost everything he had to his name up till fifteen times, including his two wives. Even at that, his father was not able to convince him to give up on gambling and take up a steady job.



It wasn’t long after his second wife left him due to his excessive gambling that Walters started his own car dealership business in the year 1982. In addition to running a car dealership business, he also began to operate his own bookmaking services. It is important to mention that this activity is a crime within the jurisdiction of Kentucky. Walters was caught at some point and he had to pay a fine of $1,000 USD. After paying the fine, he made up his mind to relocate to somewhere else where gambling is allowed."
full unedited version here...
https://casinochecking.com/blog/billy-walters/

[AxelWolf]

Here's my records in betting the various sports this season:

NHL: 3-2, +1.54 units
NCAA Basketball: 37.5 wins, 44 losses, 1.5 ties, -8.04 units (I'll explain the .5 thing at the bottom)
NBA: 34-39-2, -6.43 units
NFL: 46-22-1, +25.93 units
NCAA Football: 47-39-1, +8.66 units
MLB 2022: 59-62-2, +3.35 units

Each bet is 1 unit, no matter what. This way it is easy to keep track of my real profitability here. Other handicappers play with "units" by just increasing them when losing, while not actually increasing their real-life bets for that amount, in order to falsify a winning record. I have to use units because I sometimes bet moneylines, so obviously a +190 win is not the same as a -110 spread win. I am assuming a -110 spread or totals line unless otherwise stated, even though I personally can often get better (via lower juice books).

The one exception to the "1 unit" thing is something I started doing in NCAA Basketball, where I make a "split pick" on the same game -- 2 picks for 0.5 units each. It will usually be a moneyline on the first half and the spread for the entire game. So that's why I have a 0.5 win and 0.5 tie in that sport, which actually occurred tonight when I tied the first half.

Anyway, as you can see above, I am +25.01 units up total, over 442 picks. However, in sports other than NFL, I am down overall 0.92 units. I've had an outlier NFL season, obviously.

In short, sports handicapping is hard, unless you really study props, find weak spots, and can get action down (the hardest part).

"weak spots"= including weak lines?

[Dan Druff]

In short, sports handicapping is hard, unless you really study props, find weak spots, and can get action down (the hardest part).

"weak spots"= including weak lines?

yes

[AxelWolf]

Here's my records in betting the various sports this season:

NHL: 3-2, +1.54 units
NCAA Basketball: 37.5 wins, 44 losses, 1.5 ties, -8.04 units (I'll explain the .5 thing at the bottom)
NBA: 34-39-2, -6.43 units
NFL: 46-22-1, +25.93 units
NCAA Football: 47-39-1, +8.66 units
MLB 2022: 59-62-2, +3.35 units

Each bet is 1 unit, no matter what. This way it is easy to keep track of my real profitability here. Other handicappers play with "units" by just increasing them when losing, while not actually increasing their real-life bets for that amount, in order to falsify a winning record. I have to use units because I sometimes bet moneylines, so obviously a +190 win is not the same as a -110 spread win. I am assuming a -110 spread or totals line unless otherwise stated, even though I personally can often get better (via lower juice books).

The one exception to the "1 unit" thing is something I started doing in NCAA Basketball, where I make a "split pick" on the same game -- 2 picks for 0.5 units each. It will usually be a moneyline on the first half and the spread for the entire game. So that's why I have a 0.5 win and 0.5 tie in that sport, which actually occurred tonight when I tied the first half.

Anyway, as you can see above, I am +25.01 units up total, over 442 picks. However, in sports other than NFL, I am down overall 0.92 units. I've had an outlier NFL season, obviously.

In short, sports handicapping is hard, unless you really study props, find weak spots, and can get action down (the hardest part).

All it will take is for you to win some sports handycrapping contest.Soon after you'll start telling us how haddycapping is the stone-cold nuts, and then you'll start charging us for your services.

I look forward to receiving your package(the ones you send in the mail that is)

[AxelWolf]

In short, sports handicapping is hard, unless you really study props, find weak spots, and can get action down (the hardest part).

"weak spots"= including weak lines?

yes

Don't be an idiot Dan. There's no such thing as a weak line you uneducated sports noob. Just ask
redietz... he has schooled us hard on that fact. read above.

[jbjb]

"weak spots"= including weak lines?

yes

Don't be an idiot Dan. There's no such thing as a weak line you uneducated sports noob. Just ask
redietz... he has schooled us hard on that fact. read above.

You guys actually read those posts?

[Treeshade]

Your mention of the late Alan Mendelson and his very biased, negative, anti-AP rhetoric (things like secret AP club) is very disappointing. I don't know why you would go there.

You have got to be kidding. Have you no shame?

Fuck you coach belly....and the 14 year old boy you rode in on. Oh wait....you already did!

Nothing wrong with what I said. I am sorry Alan passed and may he rest in peace, but Alan Mendelson, was very anti-AP. He didn't like players that won based on the math and frankly didn't even believe in the math. He probably didn't understand the math in most cases. If anyone needs confirmation of this, there are thousands of posts here and at WoV that prove what I am saying. These facts don't change because Alan passed away.

The guy knew exactly how to attack players clubs to get max mailers on Video poker. He really pulled the wool over the Fraudulent players eyes like yourself. A Master troll and journalist. Real funny how he twisted you up over the years. You have a thing for attacking dead guys. What a complete piece of shit you are. Go fill your toilet with cum laced turds you freak. Get infected by the closet cruising married men

[kewlJ]

The only closet cruising married men around here is you, asshole.

[AxelWolf]

The guy knew exactly how to attack players clubs to get max mailers on Video poker.n

Zero chance Ill believe this.

He played big sometimes and he got max offers sometimes. End of story.

[mickeycrimm]

Druff, the kewlj account should be suspended for having two sock puppets.

Mickey apparently doesn't understand what a sock puppet is. Tasha is correct, actually. A sock puppet is one person using multiple handles or accounts, not multiple people using one account. As I stated earlier, if I made the other occupants of my home create their own account then it would look to Dan Druff like a sock puppet situation, and one that would be hard for me to disprove. So I just allow them to post on my account on the occasions they post, which is not against the rules.

Druff, multiple people using one account is the moral equivalent of sock puppetry. Those that do it should be banned.

[kewlJ]

Druff, the kewlj account should be suspended for having two sock puppets.

Mickey apparently doesn't understand what a sock puppet is. Tasha is correct, actually. A sock puppet is one person using multiple handles or accounts, not multiple people using one account. As I stated earlier, if I made the other occupants of my home create their own account then it would look to Dan Druff like a sock puppet situation, and one that would be hard for me to disprove. So I just allow them to post on my account on the occasions they post, which is not against the rules.

Druff, multiple people using one account is the moral equivalent of sock puppetry. Those that do it should be banned.

One of the dumber things you have posted and it is growing harder to keep track, because you post more and more dumb shit lately. I miss the old, "normal" mickeycrimm.

How do you know any account is just one person mickey? How do we know your account is just you? There certainly has been a change in posting content in the last year or so? Didn't you have a roommate after your heart attack? How do we know you haven't found a lady friend and are shacking up and she is posting on your account?

How do we know Mrs Axelwolf doesn't chime in at times? Maybe even Mrs Dan Druff, posting some of these cute Vegas info pieces?

I know a guy that used to post here that got tired of posting and just turned his account over to someone else who kept posting.

What about AccountinQuestion. That dude has multiple personalities. Is that any different than two different people posting?

Would it surprise anyone if there were more than one person posting on Tasha's accounts?

There is no rule against multiple people using the same account. However if they were to create a second account from the same household, that would look like a sock puppet and be shut down.

[kewlJ]

I quick glance at the rules here says one account on the system, no duplicate accounts. A second account from the same household would be and show up as a duplicate account, therefore if more than one person in the same household want to post the MUST post on the same account.

[mcap]

It’s not like Druff gives a fuck about his forum rules, let Tasha sock it, lets GrimReaper/Yung/Garbageboy do it all Willy nilly; uses parentheses to put (2.5 hours from Vegas) Utah stuff in the Las Vegas subforum on his own forum!

[accountinquestion]

Druff, the kewlj account should be suspended for having two sock puppets.

Mickey apparently doesn't understand what a sock puppet is. Tasha is correct, actually. A sock puppet is one person using multiple handles or accounts, not multiple people using one account. As I stated earlier, if I made the other occupants of my home create their own account then it would look to Dan Druff like a sock puppet situation, and one that would be hard for me to disprove. So I just allow them to post on my account on the occasions they post, which is not against the rules.

Druff, multiple people using one account is the moral equivalent of sock puppetry. Those that do it should be banned.

Only people who want to be influencers have this believe. Whether Redietz or Mickey who has had his own GWAE podcasts.

[accountinquestion]

What about AccountinQuestion. That dude has multiple personalities. Is that any different than two different people posting?

How so? Again no answer. Because I can tell you Merry Christmas while also saying you're a phoney fuck?

All you guys whine about me trolling you then take random shots in unrelated threads.

Vegas too empty to get tricks and so you're broke and whiney? Whats going on dear man, please tell us.

[mickeycrimm]

Promotions aside, and I extract promotional advantages at every opportunity without being a dick, there is technically no such thing as EV, positive or negative, in a game of opinion. I have said this again and again.

This statement is pretty stupid. Imagine someone propositioned you to betting sides on every college game of the year and they will lay you 7 extra points per game. Since you have to bet every game it throws opinion out the window. What does the math say about this bet? Is there anyone here that would turn this bet down?

The math says you would have a huge edge. Sure, this is a hypothetical. But it shows clearly that mathematics is a huge part of sportsbetting.

[kewlJ]

Vegas too empty to get tricks and so you're broke and whiney? Whats going on dear man, please tell us.

What is going on with me? How about what is going on with YOU? You are now repeating garbage from seedvalue and Singer, about tricks? Good lord, you used to be a normal dude, or at least seemed like it.

[monet]

It’s not like Druff gives a fuck about his forum rules, let Tasha sock it, lets GrimReaper/Yung/Garbageboy do it all Willy nilly; uses parentheses to put (2.5 hours from Vegas) Utah stuff in the Las Vegas subforum on his own forum!

STFU you Redskin Pansie.

[accountinquestion]

Vegas too empty to get tricks and so you're broke and whiney? Whats going on dear man, please tell us.

What is going on with me? How about what is going on with YOU? You are now repeating garbage from seedvalue and Singer, about tricks? Good lord, you used to be a normal dude, or at least seemed like it.

Being 100% honest I've had that theory for some time way before Seedvalue showed up. I had no idea Singer said this. It all makes sense to me though. Your undying need to have legitimacy has to come from SOMEWHERE. LV is so full of prostitutes etc.

Good Lord, don't take shots at me randomly if you don't want it back at you. Not that hard. If you do, don't play victim.

Typically I've only made fun of you in relation to your obsession with Mdawg and Singer. That's pretty fair play. Many many people have brought this up with you yet you continue. Some mission of some sort.