coach belly are you an advantage player.

[accountinquestion]

You really need to get help. You are obviously mentally disturbed.

I can assure you the feeling is quite mutual mickeycrimm. Your insane switch regarding Singer and you now distorting and re-writing history to suit your new boyfriend demonstrates a clear detachment from reality. And you obsession with gay sex acts is not normal either. It goes well beyond the juvenile name calling that kids do, which you use as an excuse. It really reveals who you are...insecure closet door and everything.

What should be concerning to you is these opinions are shared by most here. And the same about MaxPen. Your opinions about MaxPen are shared by only you and a couple of the AP haters like blackhole. Everyone else, everyone normal knows Maxpen is a top AP. If blackhole shared my opinion about anything.....I think I would be very concerned.

Look at this idiot, KJocchio. In one sentence he accuses me of having a "new boyfriend." In the very next sentence he accuses me of being obsessed with gay acts. HERE'S THE FUCKING POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK. Bitch get your mouth out from around redietz' cock long enough to make a coherent thought. And it's not hard to tell you've been fucking maxpen again. Easy enough to do since you both live in Vegas.

MAXPEN IS A POSER PRO. He hasn't contributed anything to AP discussion in the forums. He's just been in the forums to pick off information from the real pros on where the plays are. He's a monkey see monkey do guy.

And MDawg is right about you, KJocchio. You washed out as a blackjack player. You're a piece of shit bust out loser.

Folks, it doesn't get better than this. lmao

[mickeycrimm]

I believe Mickey's backing of Singer, is a combination of unwillingness to admit that he's wrong(extreme stubbornness) and his extreme hatred for Max, KJ and Comrade Dietz. Mickey is just to sharp in the AP department, to actually truly believe all of Singers nonsense and his continual defense of grandpa Newell. There are hundreds of posts of Mickey over a span of several years disproving and calling Singer a charlatan. He ultimately refuses to admit that he's wrong about the whole ordeal.

Ozzy, I've never backed Singer. All I care about is the facts. The Three Stooges don't care about the facts, only their extreme hatred. Their Singer Derangement Syndrome has ruined them. They are now just fucked up washed up trolls letting their SDS ruin the VCT Forum.

[mickeycrimm]

redietz wrote:

"I'm reasonably certain "Singer" didn't keep tabs on free rooms and meal values to arrive at his bottom line."





Reasonably certain, bull crap, sounds like speculation to me.

What other AP's calculations methods used to get to a final tally, was not the way Singer wanted to be looked upon as being in the same boat publically. That is Singer only being Singer every time. However, you can bet your ass that he passed up on nothing, and that was just one of his many secrets.

Just wanted to mention that I'm a bit of a language precisionist, so most of what I say is usually laced with qualifiers as opposed to declarations (as this sentence is), so almost everything has a degree of speculation to it.

My opinion/speculation/me-being-reasonably-certain (as opposed to being certain or someone else being reasonably certain) is that if Singer at any point had amassed mass quantities of comps to which he had attached a value, it would have taken a herculean effort by him to not mention it at some point with a dollar figure attached. His Newell obsession and using price tags adjectivally in reference to the Newell (as my mom did with home decor in my youth -- "the $600 sofa" or the "$40 lamp") allows me to come to my speculative conclusion that had he kept tabs on his freebies, at some point in thousands of posts, he would have attached some kind of price tag to it or boasted about it or mentioned it in some concrete way.

Perhaps I'm wrong and "Singer" displayed the same discipline in not mentioning his comp values as he has in keeping silent about the double up bug or stifling his opinions of blacks, asians, and gays.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

And allow me to point out that in this kind of discussion, given BoSox's newbie status regarding all things "Singer," that BoSox's speculations regarding "Singer" are most likely (note the qualifier) more speculative than mine, to coin a phrase from Animal Farm.

Those are two very good points made redeitz. I did realize that I did not know about Singer's history as nearly as well as the rest of you. However, this discussion is not about whatever lies were made by Singer. I don't think that anyone disputes that he made plenty of those.

redietz is not a language precisionist, he's a dead-brainist. He can't even remember all those times Singer wrote about taking his wife on comped vacations to casino resorts and and getting bashed by him and his brain-dead friends for "dragging his wife" to those places. Fucking idiots.

[accountinquestion]

I believe Mickey's backing of Singer, is a combination of unwillingness to admit that he's wrong(extreme stubbornness) and his extreme hatred for Max, KJ and Comrade Dietz. Mickey is just to sharp in the AP department, to actually truly believe all of Singers nonsense and his continual defense of grandpa Newell. There are hundreds of posts of Mickey over a span of several years disproving and calling Singer a charlatan. He ultimately refuses to admit that he's wrong about the whole ordeal.

Ozzy, I've never backed Singer. All I care about is the facts. The Three Stooges don't care about the facts, only their extreme hatred. Their Singer Derangement Syndrome has ruined them. They are now just fucked up washed up trolls letting their SDS ruin the VCT Forum.

Oh my! Taking used up Trump meme-propaganda and swapping out Singer. ha ha ha.

The best thing is the guys who loved to talk about TDS were also biggest victims of TDS.

Just like SDS....

Singer so far in Mickey's head. Mickey wanted to cruise in that Newell soooo bad. Yall don't know what it's like to be camping out in the shadows and see a Newell cruise by. There literally can be no greater existence outside of the Rapture for a hobo. Now ex-hobo has that SDS in his head and all he wanted was a fuckn ride, homies.

[mickeycrimm]

Those are two very good points made redeitz. I did realize that I did not know about Singer's history as nearly as well as the rest of you. However, this discussion is not about whatever lies were made by Singer. I don't think that anyone disputes that he made plenty of those.

I really don't want to dwell on Singer. The character created, "Rob Singer" is now dead. The man that created the character, just now irrelevant.

But the history of the person cannot be ignored. If someone new had come to a forum and made the claim of the double up bug, while skeptical, I would give him the benefit of doubt, until I had reason not to. I and others might have questions and that might seem a little unfair, like an interrogation, but the magnitude of such a claim almost requires that.

BUT, when that same claim is made by a person, who has for 20 years lied and made false claim, you don't take him at his word. At that point the onus is on him to prove his claim. He created that lack of credibility. And that is the point I was trying to make to mickey several years ago. Consider the source and look into it. And if mickey had looked into it, like some of us did, he would have seen many things that don't add up as well as many things that just flat out contradict the possibility.

Google "narcissist". You will find numerous articles listing traits of a narcissist.
All contain common traits of lying for the need for attention. And they escalate these lies and claims when not receiving the attention desired.
They exaggerate their own smarts, success, power, and looks.
The lack of empathy leads them to take advantage of people, with no regrets.
Narcissists may be extremely jealous and ultra-sensitive.
Because they tend to be very thin-skinned, they may angrily lash out at any criticism or push-back.
Narcissists also may lash out when they feel like they’re not getting special treatment.
Underneath all of these traits is a deep sense of insecurity.

This is Rob (the person behind the character) to a tee. Bitter at his admitted failure as an AP and status as a degenerate losing gambler, he made up stories of success, long-term winning playing negative EV. Millions of dollars over 10 years, later amended to fit a new claim. When he was no longer getting the attention desired, he escalated his claim by stealing the double up bug. If any of it had been real there would have been no need for all the name calling and attacks that occurred for decades on numerous forums. But that kind of attacking back, deflecting is classic narcissistic behavior.

And now we see the exact same text book example of narcissist behavior from Mdawg. Honestly it is not just like watching a repeat, but a really BAD repeat.

The biggest lie ever told on VCT? It can never be topped:

"I really don't want to dwell on Singer."

As for narcissists all KJocchio has to do to find one is look in the mirror.

[MaxPen]

I believe Mickey's backing of Singer, is a combination of unwillingness to admit that he's wrong(extreme stubbornness) and his extreme hatred for Max, KJ and Comrade Dietz. Mickey is just to sharp in the AP department, to actually truly believe all of Singers nonsense and his continual defense of grandpa Newell. There are hundreds of posts of Mickey over a span of several years disproving and calling Singer a charlatan. He ultimately refuses to admit that he's wrong about the whole ordeal.

Ozzy, I've never backed Singer. All I care about is the facts. The Three Stooges don't care about the facts, only their extreme hatred. Their Singer Derangement Syndrome has ruined them. They are now just fucked up washed up trolls letting their SDS ruin the VCT Forum.

Seems the only one deranged is you. Every day with the same hallucinations. Seems like most agree too.....you've lost it....RIP

Most everyone except you and maybe coach belly has seemed to move on from Singer. Now it's the MDog show. I forgive you though as I blame some sort of long term oxygen deprivation during your heart attack for your stupidity. That kind of shit will fuck with anyone's mental faculties.

[Ozzy]

kewlJ quoting me?
That seems odd!?
I thought she had me on ignore.

Didn't quote you, you porky bastard. I quoted Bosox, who had manually quoted you.

And yes, blubber butt, I do have you on ignore. We all understand how that works, that I may still see some of your post both when others quote you and when I visit the site without being logged on, which is usually the case when I visit from my phone.

Anyway, I am not opposed to reading some of your posts, because unlike most of the others haters that post nothing useful, only hate, you sometimes post useful information, even financially beneficial information. Here this will really piss you off: within the last two weeks, I was having lunch at Victory Burger at Circa, which has quickly become one of my favorite places. While waiting for the order, I was scanning VCT on my phone, which meant you were unblocked. You had given out a couple hockey picks you liked, one was Tampa bay and I forget the other. Since I was right there at the sportsbook, I bet the puck line both games individually and won. You on the other hand did some kind of parley with I think two other teams, one of which only won by 1 and lost your ticket. I didn't bet a lot, but made 5 hundred and some. I also have won 2 bets against buffalo in the past couple weeks. I only get out once or twice a week so they have to be playing that day and I have to even remember to look. But you have been good for probably a grand for me this month. And every little bit helps, especially now, since I haven't yet returned to blackjack play. So thanks.

How can you have a legend like Monet on ignore, he's the best poster here.

[mickeycrimm]

Mickey is getting pwned. It’s embarrassing.

Dude, don't equate numbers with intelligence. The Three Stooges are gang up motherfuckers. They have to because their IQ's are lower than their ages. Besides, I don't consider it a fair fight unless there are three of them. I can beat those idiots in a battle of the wits with half my brain tied behind my back. You can even throw in Suckscockontuesdays and I'll beat them all to death.

[kewlJ]

The biggest lie ever told on VCT? It can never be topped:

"I really don't want to dwell on Singer."

As for narcissists all KJocchio has to do to find one is look in the mirror.

Let me tell you something Crimm. You embarrass yourself everyday. A real man would say "yeah I was wrong about Singer and the double up bug. He had some info that at the time made him seem credible, but as time has gone on new things have arisen, and I was wrong."

What the fuck is so hard about that? Singer is a professional and top notch troll. he knew all the troll plays. How to trick and manipulate people. So you got played by one of the best trolls because you gave him the benefit of doubt? Big deal. You be a man, admit it and move on. I mean the fact is YOU were proven right for all those many years, arguing his bullshit claims and then at the last minute you inexplicably jumped to the losing team. You snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory. You know that is backwards of what you are supposed to do.

But you do what you gotta do Crimm, if it somehow makes you feel better, but you aren't fooling anyone.

[kewlJ]

. I can beat those idiots in a battle of the wits with half my brain tied behind my back.

What an idiot! Another insecure looney engaging in pissing contests at every chance.

[MaxPen]

Mickey is getting pwned. It’s embarrassing.

Dude, don't equate numbers with intelligence. The Three Stooges are gang up motherfuckers. They have to because their IQ's are lower than their ages. Besides, I don't consider it a fair fight unless there are three of them. I can beat those idiots in a battle of the wits with half my brain tied behind my back. You can even throw in Suckscockontuesdays and I'll beat them all to death.

I am pretty sure you left half your brain under that bridge you used to sleep under. Maybe it's still in the refrigerator box you used to stay warm. Go see if you can find it and become a full-wit again. Then get back to us.

[kewlJ]

I am pretty sure you left half your brain under that bridge you used to sleep under. Maybe it's still in the refrigerator box you used to stay warm. Go see if you can find it and become a full-wit again. Then get back to us.

Yeah, I was going to comment about half his brain already being lost to a lifetime alcohol abuse, but didn't. (I guess I just did though )

But the truth is this mickeycrim of today is nothing close to the mickeycrimm of a few years a go. Whether you like him, and his online antics and trolling or not, there is a very noticeable decline.

[accountinquestion]

Mickey is Mickey. If it wasn't for the homo stuff .. just so juvenile .. he'd be ok. Like.. have some self-awareness bro.

This is a real trollboard. You guys are the best. I don't think I've ever been amongst a finer group of misfits. If Mickey could just get away from the homo talk then he'd be fine. This obsession with the homosexual putdown is epic. I can imagine him at a bar and someone yells out 'fag' and he and all his buddies start giggling together. lol. like beavises n buttheads

[coach belly]

Now you should have no problems pointing out the public records of mathematicians analysis and explanation of MDawg's casino betting claims.

You'll need to answer my question before I consider your request.

You are hiding something from the community,
while the answers to your questions are publicly available.

[mickeycrimm]

I believe Mickey's backing of Singer, is a combination of unwillingness to admit that he's wrong(extreme stubbornness) and his extreme hatred for Max, KJ and Comrade Dietz. Mickey is just to sharp in the AP department, to actually truly believe all of Singers nonsense and his continual defense of grandpa Newell. There are hundreds of posts of Mickey over a span of several years disproving and calling Singer a charlatan. He ultimately refuses to admit that he's wrong about the whole ordeal.

Ozzy, I've never backed Singer. All I care about is the facts. The Three Stooges don't care about the facts, only their extreme hatred. Their Singer Derangement Syndrome has ruined them. They are now just fucked up washed up trolls letting their SDS ruin the VCT Forum.

Seems the only one deranged is you. Every day with the same hallucinations. Seems like most agree too.....you've lost it....RIP

Most everyone except you and maybe coach belly has seemed to move on from Singer. Now it's the MDog show. I forgive you though as I blame some sort of long term oxygen deprivation during your heart attack for your stupidity. That kind of shit will fuck with anyone's mental faculties.

Typical brain dead response from one of the Three Stooges. And you've "moved on from Singer." BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, you got Singer Derangement Syndrome bigtime. He's in your every waking thought....other than fucking KJocchio up the ass.

Yeah, you've moved on alright. You betcha. You got a bridge for sale too, right?

[mickeycrimm]

The biggest lie ever told on VCT? It can never be topped:

"I really don't want to dwell on Singer."

As for narcissists all KJocchio has to do to find one is look in the mirror.

Let me tell you something Crimm. You embarrass yourself everyday. A real man would say "yeah I was wrong about Singer and the double up bug. He had some info that at the time made him seem credible, but as time has gone on new things have arisen, and I was wrong."

What the fuck is so hard about that? Singer is a professional and top notch troll. he knew all the troll plays. How to trick and manipulate people. So you got played by one of the best trolls because you gave him the benefit of doubt? Big deal. You be a man, admit it and move on. I mean the fact is YOU were proven right for all those many years, arguing his bullshit claims and then at the last minute you inexplicably jumped to the losing team. You snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory. You know that is backwards of what you are supposed to do.

But you do what you gotta do Crimm, if it somehow makes you feel better, but you aren't fooling anyone.

SINGER DERANGEMENT SYNDROME

[mickeycrimm]

I am pretty sure you left half your brain under that bridge you used to sleep under. Maybe it's still in the refrigerator box you used to stay warm. Go see if you can find it and become a full-wit again. Then get back to us.

Yeah, I was going to comment about half his brain already being lost to a lifetime alcohol abuse, but didn't. (I guess I just did though )

But the truth is this mickeycrim of today is nothing close to the mickeycrimm of a few years a go. Whether you like him, and his online antics and trolling or not, there is a very noticeable decline.

Dude, when god said brains you thought he said rain and ran for cover.

[accountinquestion]

Mickey ignores me. I think that means I'm the baddest troll on this forums. He wants no piece of this. I love him though .. he's that grouchy old uncle no one else in the family likes.

If I could offer one gift to anyone on this forum - I'd offer to rent a Newell for Mickey. Let him lounge around in it, take it around the block, maybe park it in a casino parking lot. Maybe rent it and just go park it outside a joint that seems to have reasonable EV for slot hustling. Make him arrange transportation there. Maybe disable the Newell somehow so he can't drive it away but otherwise give him the keys. Yea.. that would make me happy. I think it'd let Mickey get rid of a lot of this anger. Move on past the SDS into new things in life.

[kewlJ]

Dude, when god said brains you thought he said rain and ran for cover.

An oldie, but a goodie.

One of the signs of dementia is you can't remember what happened yesterday, like who's toes you ran over in your wheelchair/scooter, but you remember clearly everything from childhood, in your case, all the digs and busts from your 3 years in the 3rd grade.

[tominnv]

Now you should have no problems pointing out the public records of mathematicians analysis and explanation of MDawg's casino betting claims.

You'll need to answer my question before I consider your request.

You are hiding something from the community,
while the answers to your questions are publicly available.

I did answer your question, now my answers are publicly available as well. The answer was even in the post you quoted, yet you erased it. If you continue to have such serious problems pointing out these things that are publicly available, that just shows you are doing exactly what I thought: trying to hide this information.

Like most people, I do not have a full knowledge of every public record in all of human history. We would need to be directed to it. If you cannot do that, it would mean you are a liar and the things you said about mathematicians analyzing MDawg and Rob Singer's claims were lies.