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One of the reasons to become an AP:Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLxu2hVzdX0
Do you guys realize that the Revolution started and has been ongoing for over 20 years now?
Unfortunately, it isn't the typical type of Revolution where the people rise up against their leaders.
And our side or the people's minds and children have been completely captured.
It's damn well near a lost cause.
It has been a very slow process but they have systematically taken over the hearts and minds of the people and more importantly, the children.
Society is never going back to Freedom.
Get used to more digital passports, social credit scores and governmental control over your lives.
And the kicker is about 75% or more of the world population actually approve of these tyrannical changes.
If I don't succumb to disease first I will be wiped out in the resistance but make no mistake... resistance is futile.
The truth is that we all sold out for 30 pieces of silver long ago... RIP.
The number of people affected is relatively small, sure, but the Netherlands has already started compensating families who have a loved one that died as a result of an adverse reaction to the vaccine. UK and US are mulling similar programs. From a Wall Street journal article, look it up if interested. 38 year old radiologist interviewed in the article was hospitalized with myocarditis shortly after I believe the booster, still has chest pains and plans to file a claim.
This shit is why the mandates are complete bullshit and labeling hesitant people under 50ish who aren’t fat or have underlying health problems as “anti-vaxxers” is horseshit as well. It’s not “100%” safe, the vaccine is less effective than ever against newer variants, and for younger populations who are healthy (admittedly that’s actually a minority with over 70% of US overweight) they are choosing between two low risk but risky options.
Just incase you thought I wrong about how our youth are indoctrinated and or captured.
I can't believe I have to reference Bill Maher but here I am again agreeing with him.
So now it's cool to denounce America and compete for China in the Olympics??
I haven't watched or followed one event so I was shocked when I heard this news.
It seems clear that our institutions have been captured by enemy spies.
Not to mention almost every level of political office, institutions and universities.
The Commies seem to have slowly infiltrated and appear to have the upper hand.
Michelle Wu and Eileen Gu are prime examples.
America... RIP.
https://twitter.com/billmaher/status...ete-China.html
And coupled with many other studies it shows that Ivermectin is fairly useless. It is not some panacea being covered up by the medical establishment elite or whatever the fuck. A lot of these studies have said it might have some marginal effect, but when weighed against the side-effects it is fairly worthless. The fact that the right harps on it is just some sort of grift-pandering-propaganda I don't fully follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI'm fine with my statistical knowledge - in looking at the JAMA article I see that the P-value is .25, which is quite high - what this means is that you are willing to accept a 25% chance (p=.25) that you are wrong in rejecting the null hypothesis that ivermectin is effective based on the observed results of the study. 13 people died during the study and none of them were attributed to Ivermectin. A p-value of .05 is considered the standard for statistical significance.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionLEARN ABOUT STATS. READ THE JAMA ARTICLE.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
From the article you linked:half as many Ivermectin patients required ventilation. 50% more patients of the standard care (non-ivermectin) treated patients had to be admitted to the ICU unit of the hospital than the ivermectin-treated group:
The article does not state how many standard care patients had to be treated for severe diarrhea or potentially life-threatening kidney damage, so that no comparison to the ivermectin-treated group can be drawn.
Although TBH I have to give you credit for reading through the UPI article. I respect that.
But anyway, if you're in love with ivermectin then load up on that shit.
Actually, TBH you're right in that it won't matter much either way. These fools shit themselves and some poor nurse had to clean it up because of their nonsense.
Pretty sure Ivermectin can damage your kidneys when these fools who don't know how to scale dosages from 1500 lb beasts for their 300 lb wives.
Watched the Maher clip. Is it about our youth being brainwashed; or a “love of money is the root of all evil” bible lesson?Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
And of course Joe Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Here is a study with a p-value of less than 0.0001 (much larger sample size) showing that it is highly effectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionAnd coupled with many other studies it shows that Ivermectin is fairly useless. It is not some panacea being covered up by the medical establishment elite or whatever the fuck. A lot of these studies have said it might have some marginal effect, but when weighed against the side-effects it is fairly worthless. The fact that the right harps on it is just some sort of grift-pandering-propaganda I don't fully follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI'm fine with my statistical knowledge - in looking at the JAMA article I see that the P-value is .25, which is quite high - what this means is that you are willing to accept a 25% chance (p=.25) that you are wrong in rejecting the null hypothesis that ivermectin is effective based on the observed results of the study. 13 people died during the study and none of them were attributed to Ivermectin. A p-value of .05 is considered the standard for statistical significance.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
https://www.cureus.com/articles/8216...score-matching. The results of other effective studies were posted on VCT as well (meta-analysis of several studies IIRC).
Fair enough I'll open my mind to reconsideration on this one. My chief issue stems from the fact that I don't understand the motivation for msm to be so against something that sorta works. There is prophylactic and then there is treating people after they have it. There are 2 different things but whatever, it is interesting to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayHere is a study with a p-value of less than 0.0001 (much larger sample size) showing that it is highly effectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionAnd coupled with many other studies it shows that Ivermectin is fairly useless. It is not some panacea being covered up by the medical establishment elite or whatever the fuck. A lot of these studies have said it might have some marginal effect, but when weighed against the side-effects it is fairly worthless. The fact that the right harps on it is just some sort of grift-pandering-propaganda I don't fully follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI'm fine with my statistical knowledge - in looking at the JAMA article I see that the P-value is .25, which is quite high - what this means is that you are willing to accept a 25% chance (p=.25) that you are wrong in rejecting the null hypothesis that ivermectin is effective based on the observed results of the study. 13 people died during the study and none of them were attributed to Ivermectin. A p-value of .05 is considered the standard for statistical significance.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/8216...score-matching. The results of other effective studies were posted on VCT as well (meta-analysis of several studies IIRC).
I still think the bald guy with the glasses is a grifter after watching how he talks.
Ivermectin is not profitable for pharmaceutical companies (the patent expired and it is very cheap like aspirin) whereas mRNA vaccines are extremely profitable for them due to patent considerations. The main stream media is heavily influenced by pharmaceutical companies due to overlapping ownership. Ivermectin has been used extremely safely for decades to destroy parasites in human beings and there is no reason to not prescribe it for Covid-19 at safe dosage levels as a first line treatment (just like many adults take a baby aspirin each day to reduce the chances of a heart attack or stroke). Even for a person that is vaccinated there would be no harm in prescribing it if the vaccinated person tested positive for covid-19 and had covid-19 symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Supposedly, there are 5 studies or trials ongoing and about to be concluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I find it odd that they can invent multiple vaccines and get them approved within a few months.
Invent Boosters and get them approved.
But it takes 3 years to research a drug that everyone knows destroys the virus in cultures in a laboratory setting?
And they have also invented new pills that got approval faster than these trials and got them in the marketplace too!?
Actually it doesn't matter to me if it doesn't work or does work.
Why is the Government not allowing doctors to prescribe Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and or Monoclonal Antibodies??
You literally have to go to the black market now to get these items in America.
These medicines are literally in vending machines in other countries!
And we know now that they lied about the spacing of shot 1 and 2.
They had to space them out 21 to 28 days apart from each other to get emergency approval.
Now they want to space them out 60 days from one another and they told us they knew this from the beginning.
But they did what they did to get it pushed through and into the public knowing that it would cause problems.
But they felt the reward was greater than the risk.
Sort of like masks.
They don't work.
They work.
Now they don't work again lol.
Too Late though as more than half of the American Population is brainwashed to wear masks forever.
I guess littering the Land and Ocean with over 2 Billion Masks for 400 years is acceptable so people can "feel" safe.
It's like denying a lab leak.
Ground Zero for the virus was literally a couple of blocks away from a laboratory that researches, tests and invents Coronaviruses.
But of course that had nothing to do with it and the virus started from bats and pigs being shipped in over a thousand miles away.
We all know that Big Pharma is about profits and not about health or saving peoples lives.
Opioids are clearly the proof not to mention many other smoking guns.
Long Live the Revolution!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arrokG3wCdE&t=814s
That John Abramson #263 Lex Fridman Podcast took a strange turn around the halfway point.
Very Contradictory as for the first hour it was all about Big Pharma is Evil.
After the first hour it was all about Vaccines are Safe and Effective and you need to get your shots.
Trust Big Pharma lol lol lol.
And Fucking Lex always pisses me off with his long winded speeches where he tries not to offend anyone or either side.
It's so Fucking hard to listen to him talk to someone for 2 hours.
You all want to trust the Science and Pfizer when they claim they need 75 years to release the data???
What a Fucking Joke!
Ok... Science is Science but when you mix in humans and funding it is no longer Science.
It's constant manipulation of the data so you can keep those dollars rolling in.
I don't buy this for a second though. One can put up all sorts of conspiratoral thinking. Sometimes it is true, but the people who get into this stuff are typically wrong. I'm fairly certain the effectiveness of the vaccines is far beyond ivermectin, even though they didn't work as well as we had hoped. The fact that you seem to argue otherwise is pretty telling. If you want to take Ivermectin all the time as a prophilaptic (sp?) be my guest.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIvermectin is not profitable for pharmaceutical companies (the patent expired and it is very cheap like aspirin) whereas mRNA vaccines are extremely profitable for them due to patent considerations. The main stream media is heavily influenced by pharmaceutical companies due to overlapping ownership. Ivermectin has been used extremely safely for decades to destroy parasites in human beings and there is no reason to not prescribe it for Covid-19 at safe dosage levels as a first line treatment (just like many adults take a baby aspirin each day to reduce the chances of a heart attack or stroke). Even for a person that is vaccinated there would be no harm in prescribing it if the vaccinated person tested positive for covid-19 and had covid-19 symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
You do seem to fluctuate between what it should be used for.. treatment for active cases or prophilactic. Again, this suggests to me you're just wanting Ivermectin to be some magic potion. The study you gave me was for prophilaptic use. These things matter in a big way.
I suspect MSM has been very resistent to even give Ivermectin a fair shake. That's true. I don't think doctors are owned by pharmaceutical companies. No, they didn't go to school for 8+ years to help people just to be controlled by some industry. Nonsense. This is a meh medication that has been latched onto by anti-vaxxer because it gives them an out psychologically.
Funny because this is what I was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I just seen an ad for this new series that started on February 18th.
I'm very late to the party.
Obviously, smarter people than myself have realized that all of our American Institutions have been infiltrated with 20 some odd year plants and spies.
I'm guessing the trailer is more exciting but I'm still interested in viewing.
Perhaps MacArthur was right all along.
The Enemy Within
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYKoLRmxDW8
No I don't seem to fluctuate in what it should be used for. It should be used for both. Please feel free to find a post where I said it should only be used for one but not the other. You won't be able to, because I never wrote that anywhere. With regard to the mRNA vaccines, I believe I wrote that they have bad side effects like heart inflammation and made no comment on their effectiveness for Covid-19. Given the safety profile of Ivermectin there would be no reason not to try it, even if vaccinated. However it is very difficult to get in this country legally for this purpose. The examples of thalidomide,phen-fen and other harmful medications was already mentioned, but you either forgot about this or ignored it, so there is no point in posting counter-arguments - they will be ignored or forgotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI don't buy this for a second though. One can put up all sorts of conspiratoral thinking. Sometimes it is true, but the people who get into this stuff are typically wrong. I'm fairly certain the effectiveness of the vaccines is far beyond ivermectin, even though they didn't work as well as we had hoped. The fact that you seem to argue otherwise is pretty telling. If you want to take Ivermectin all the time as a prophilaptic (sp?) be my guest.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIvermectin is not profitable for pharmaceutical companies (the patent expired and it is very cheap like aspirin) whereas mRNA vaccines are extremely profitable for them due to patent considerations. The main stream media is heavily influenced by pharmaceutical companies due to overlapping ownership. Ivermectin has been used extremely safely for decades to destroy parasites in human beings and there is no reason to not prescribe it for Covid-19 at safe dosage levels as a first line treatment (just like many adults take a baby aspirin each day to reduce the chances of a heart attack or stroke). Even for a person that is vaccinated there would be no harm in prescribing it if the vaccinated person tested positive for covid-19 and had covid-19 symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
You do seem to fluctuate between what it should be used for.. treatment for active cases or prophilactic. Again, this suggests to me you're just wanting Ivermectin to be some magic potion. The study you gave me was for prophilaptic use. These things matter in a big way.
I suspect MSM has been very resistent to even give Ivermectin a fair shake. That's true. I don't think doctors are owned by pharmaceutical companies. No, they didn't go to school for 8+ years to help people just to be controlled by some industry. Nonsense. This is a meh medication that has been latched onto by anti-vaxxer because it gives them an out psychologically.
Should be interesting Monet, thanks for posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetFunny because this is what I was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I just seen an ad for this new series that started on February 18th.
I'm very late to the party.
Obviously, smarter people than myself have realized that all of our American Institutions have been infiltrated with 20 some odd year plants and spies.
I'm guessing the trailer is more exciting but I'm still interested in viewing.
Perhaps MacArthur was right all along.
The Enemy Within
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYKoLRmxDW8
We were talking about using Ivermectin as treatment and then you show me a study about propylactic usage. Fluctuating might be the wrong word, but the discussion here seems to often conflate the 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayNo I don't seem to fluctuate in what it should be used for. It should be used for both. Please feel free to find a post where I said it should only be used for one but not the other. You won't be able to, because I never wrote that anywhere. With regard to the mRNA vaccines, I believe I wrote that they have bad side effects like heart inflammation and made no comment on their effectiveness for Covid-19. Given the safety profile of Ivermectin there would be no reason not to try it, even if vaccinated. However it is very difficult to get in this country legally for this purpose. The examples of thalidomide,phen-fen and other harmful medications was already mentioned, but you either forgot about this or ignored it, so there is no point in posting counter-arguments - they will be ignored or forgotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI don't buy this for a second though. One can put up all sorts of conspiratoral thinking. Sometimes it is true, but the people who get into this stuff are typically wrong. I'm fairly certain the effectiveness of the vaccines is far beyond ivermectin, even though they didn't work as well as we had hoped. The fact that you seem to argue otherwise is pretty telling. If you want to take Ivermectin all the time as a prophilaptic (sp?) be my guest.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
You do seem to fluctuate between what it should be used for.. treatment for active cases or prophilactic. Again, this suggests to me you're just wanting Ivermectin to be some magic potion. The study you gave me was for prophilaptic use. These things matter in a big way.
I suspect MSM has been very resistent to even give Ivermectin a fair shake. That's true. I don't think doctors are owned by pharmaceutical companies. No, they didn't go to school for 8+ years to help people just to be controlled by some industry. Nonsense. This is a meh medication that has been latched onto by anti-vaxxer because it gives them an out psychologically.
I'm not positive as I just watched the first 15 seconds but it looks free as it starts with Fauci.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
This is the link I used.
https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe-...a_na_na_SEARCH
Must be a coincidence that they funded Gain-of-Function Research for 666,442 dollars in 2014.
And they used United States Tax Dollars to award the grant(s).
Say what you want about Trump but it seems clear that he was trying to fix many of these issues.
It also seems clear that the Clintons really Fucked this country up.
Imagine what Hilary would of done if she won the election.
Scary.
Oh you bastards make us pay to watch part 2 through 5 huh lol?
Evil.
Once this dailywire doc ages and gets putlockered, I'll get the putlocker link and post it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetI'm not positive as I just watched the first 15 seconds but it looks free as it starts with Fauci.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
This is the link I used.
https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe-...a_na_na_SEARCH
For starters, if Ivermectin were ineffective as a treatment, there would be no need for the current ongoing studies to investigate its efficacy (Monet had posted that there were 5 ongoing studies and I believe it is at least this number). Secondly, apparently Doctors were willing to risk their 8 years of med school in order to prescribe Vioxx,Thalidomide and fen-phen (tip of the iceberg here). All of them were quite effective in treating the primary ailment. The ancillary effects of having babies born with flippers instead of arms and legs (Thalidomide), heart attacks (Vioxx and other Cox 2 anti-inflammatories) and damaged heart valves (fen-phen) are indicative of the risks that new medications can have and which can manifest when they first come on the market. These medications went through the standard protocols (rigorous) for safety in order to receive FDA approval for wide-spread use. And yet despite this, you seem to think it is unreasonable to believe that a hastily deployed, poorly vetted mRNA vaccine that had no where near the vetting of these three medications would cause a good proportion of people to be reticent to take the "vaccine" (IIRC you referred to this as being used as some sort of anti-vaxxer psychological crutch). Now billboards and ads are going up all over the place encouraging children to get heart inflammation screens and the protocols for administering the "vaccine" now call for more spacing between shots due to this same concern for both adults and children.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionWe were talking about using Ivermectin as treatment and then you show me a study about propylactic usage. Fluctuating might be the wrong word, but the discussion here seems to often conflate the 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayNo I don't seem to fluctuate in what it should be used for. It should be used for both. Please feel free to find a post where I said it should only be used for one but not the other. You won't be able to, because I never wrote that anywhere. With regard to the mRNA vaccines, I believe I wrote that they have bad side effects like heart inflammation and made no comment on their effectiveness for Covid-19. Given the safety profile of Ivermectin there would be no reason not to try it, even if vaccinated. However it is very difficult to get in this country legally for this purpose. The examples of thalidomide,phen-fen and other harmful medications was already mentioned, but you either forgot about this or ignored it, so there is no point in posting counter-arguments - they will be ignored or forgotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Finally you link a study with a p-value of .25 as evidence that ivermectin-treated and untreated groups have no difference. That same study shows that it is half as likely to require a ventilator if one is taking Ivermecton and 50% more likely to require ICU care (if one is hospitalized) if one is not.
Ignoring the fact that there are several ongoing studies to see if Ivermectin is effective, many people would be satisfied with using Ivermectin for its prophylactic power alone (p-value < 0.0001). Even so, I had linked to several Covid treatment studies compared in a meta-analysis in an earlier post showing that it is effective as a treatment (which you ignored in your recent posts over the week).
Let's be real clear about something.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
96% of people under 75 will never need to go to the hospital for this virus.
If you have access to Early Treatment Protocols like Trump, Rogan and others you will recover within 2 to 5 days.
95% of us either vaxxed or unvaxxed won't need anything but fluids and rest.
These people do realize the vaccine only lasts for 12 weeks before it rapidly declines in efficacy, don't they?
And we really can't believe most of the numbers being thrown around because they are completely skewed.
Its a big difference dying From covid or dying With Covid but they are only recently starting to separate the two.
No matter Vaxxed or UnVaxxed if you are under 75 you have less than a 1% chance of hospitalization.
One thing is for sure.
If you start eating better, exercise, lose weight, hydrate, and get 8 hours of rest per day your overall odds of living longer will skyrocket.
But you know, whatever... wear two masks, get 3 shots and stay away from life.
You might actually make it to 90 before you croak.
It's not the Plague.
Millions have not died FROM the virus.
They died WITH the virus.
Big Difference.
Many of them didn't even have the virus till they went to the hospital for some other reason and caught it.
As Dr. Fauci has already said... Everyone and I mean Everyone will likely catch this virus.
It is unavoidable.
My Uncle and Wife have been able to escape its clutches so far but they don't go anywhere.
That being said, they did go to the LVAC to shower every day for 5 months and still never caught it.
Which is pretty impressive being inside those locker rooms and showers around all those unmasked people who were sneezing and coughing.
Heck, they even were able to avoid it for the week that I had it in our house.
Although, according to one study, they only had a 12% chance to catch it from me anyway.
Great points. Isn't it amazing how all these unvaxxed people are still alive and commenting on forums about the dangers of the "vaccine" ? I mean holy fuck, talk about defying the odds in regards to this deadly virus. You would think there would be no one unvaccinated left to comment on the vaccine given how deadly Covid-19 is.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetLet's be real clear about something.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
96% of people under 75 will never need to go to the hospital for this virus.
If you have access to Early Treatment Protocols like Trump, Rogan and others you will recover within 2 to 5 days.
95% of us either vaxxed or unvaxxed won't need anything but fluids and rest.
These people do realize the vaccine only lasts for 12 weeks before it rapidly declines in efficacy, don't they?
And we really can't believe most of the numbers being thrown around because they are completely skewed.
Its a big difference dying From covid or dying With Covid but they are only recently starting to separate the two.
No matter Vaxxed or UnVaxxed if you are under 75 you have less than a 1% chance of hospitalization.
One thing is for sure.
If you start eating better, exercise, lose weight, hydrate, and get 8 hours of rest per day your overall odds of living longer will skyrocket.
But you know, whatever... wear two masks, get 3 shots and stay away from life.
You might actually make it to 90 before you croak.
It's not the Plague.
Millions have not died FROM the virus.
They died WITH the virus.
Big Difference.
Many of them didn't even have the virus till they went to the hospital for some other reason and caught it.
As Dr. Fauci has already said... Everyone and I mean Everyone will likely catch this virus.
It is unavoidable.
My Uncle and Wife have been able to escape its clutches so far but they don't go anywhere.
That being said, they did go to the LVAC to shower every day for 5 months and still never caught it.
Which is pretty impressive being inside those locker rooms and showers around all those unmasked people who were sneezing and coughing.
Heck, they even were able to avoid it for the week that I had it in our house.
Although, according to one study, they only had a 12% chance to catch it from me anyway.
No doubt!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Another fascinating topic is how they appear to be counting exact deaths in real time for the entire world!?
With the exception of China because China isn't sharing any sort of information.
And maybe North Korea.
lol remember when Russia didn't update their infections or deaths for the first 6 months or so?
Anyways, that kind of data used to take weeks if not months.
Now it appears they can update each death within minutes with complete accuracy of cause of death.
CNN used to have a death ticker that would refresh within seconds lol.
I'm pretty sure the more reliable data is annual death rates.
I'm sure the insurance companies would love to get access to these real-time data sources for their life insurance premium calculations ;-).Quote:
Originally Posted by monetNo doubt!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Another fascinating topic is how they appear to be counting exact deaths in real time for the entire world!?
With the exception of China because China isn't sharing any sort of information.
And maybe North Korea.
lol remember when Russia didn't update their infections or deaths for the first 6 months or so?
Anyways, that kind of data used to take weeks if not months.
Now it appears they can update each death within minutes with complete accuracy of cause of death.
CNN used to have a death ticker that would refresh within seconds lol.
I'm pretty sure the more reliable data is annual death rates.
Another reason to pack up and go live in the woods or at the least live in a rural area.
Unfortunately I'm pretty locked into Vegas and my current situation.
I'd literally have to burn it all down and do it alone.
I'd also have to get into Archery more so than firearms to actually have any longevity.
I'm a Fucking Idiot... should of bought a 50 acre farm 25 years ago.
Blinded by the lights and ease of the Vegas Lifestyle.
Oh well... always death and the lake of fire to look forward to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ8ZhiOLejI&t=331s
If Covid vaccine was more analagous to a drug that you take repeatedly, then you'd have a lot more of a point. If you want to show me where a vaccine has caused all these issues, feel free. Don't give me that causing autistic bullshit people of your ilk were bandying about for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayFor starters, if Ivermectin were ineffective as a treatment, there would be no need for the current ongoing studies to investigate its efficacy (Monet had posted that there were 5 ongoing studies and I believe it is at least this number). Secondly, apparently Doctors were willing to risk their 8 years of med school in order to prescribe Vioxx,Thalidomide and fen-phen (tip of the iceberg here). All of them were quite effective in treating the primary ailment. The ancillary effects of having babies born with flippers instead of arms and legs (Thalidomide), heart attacks (Vioxx and other Cox 2 anti-inflammatories) and damaged heart valves (fen-phen) are indicative of the risks that new medications can have and which can manifest when they first come on the market. These medications went through the standard protocols (rigorous) for safety in order to receive FDA approval for wide-spread use. And yet despite this, you seem to think it is unreasonable to believe that a hastily deployed, poorly vetted mRNA vaccine that had no where near the vetting of these three medications would cause a good proportion of people to be reticent to take the "vaccine" (IIRC you referred to this as being used as some sort of anti-vaxxer psychological crutch). Now billboards and ads are going up all over the place encouraging children to get heart inflammation screens and the protocols for administering the "vaccine" now call for more spacing between shots due to this same concern for both adults and children.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionWe were talking about using Ivermectin as treatment and then you show me a study about propylactic usage. Fluctuating might be the wrong word, but the discussion here seems to often conflate the 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Finally you link a study with a p-value of .25 as evidence that ivermectin-treated and untreated groups have no difference. That same study shows that it is half as likely to require a ventilator if one is taking Ivermecton and 50% more likely to require ICU care (if one is hospitalized) if one is not.
Ignoring the fact that there are several ongoing studies to see if Ivermectin is effective, many people would be satisfied with using Ivermectin for its prophylactic power alone (p-value < 0.0001). Even so, I had linked to several Covid treatment studies compared in a meta-analysis in an earlier post showing that it is effective as a treatment (which you ignored in your recent posts over the week).
There are many studies. I'm not going to read just yours. To read all of them requires many hours and I suspect it is something you haven't done. My guess would be that you have only really read the studies that came to you via a certain pathway or the one I posted. You use the whole thing to confirm your beliefs, contrary to what you wish to convey with your writing. Of course, I may very well be wrong here. I don't really know you, and I do appreciate your sincere effort to talk like normal people. I've tried to do the same in return.
I believe that Ivertmectin works. I just don't think it is some panacea that is being covered up by the medical elite establishment. Very marginal medication. It would not get near the press it does, but it is seen as an alternative to the government controlin' vaccines.
Likewise, I suspect the coverage from CNN and msm of their ilk have been too harsh on the medication.
After more and more studies come out, we'll see. What is the criteria you measure "success" by? I believe they will see a very slight/marginally better outcome. For you, any positive outcome will likely be seen as victory, no? It is kinda a yes/no I told you so sorta deal. Whatever
First off my apologies for saying that vaccines cause autism. I was totally wrong about that. Oh wait, I never said or wrote anything like that. Regarding the success of Ivermectin, I would say I define it as a success since it has been used repeatedly as a front line treatment for covid-19 by emergency doctors such as Dr. Pierre Kory* and cities in Brazil and India have used it to eradicate Covid-19. Since the mRNA "vaccine" is not a vaccine (it has no dead or weakened virus) I can not compare it to a vaccine. I gave examples of situations where Doctors were prescribing a regimen that caused severe damage, but of course now the goal posts have been moved. In any case I believe Thalidomide is a one and done deal with regard to severe birth defects - that is, if a pill is taken by a women when a developing fetus is present, the DNA of the fetus is damaged. Anyway Rotashield (rotovirus vaccine) was pulled from the market because it caused intestinal obstruction in infants - so there is your vaccine example. Since Ivermectin is a marginal medication, you should make sure you set the principal investigators of the several ongoing Ivermectin efficacy studies straight so they stop wasting their time and study grant money.Quote:
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*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
CNN should now have a death ticker for it's station.
CNN's ratings will go up a bit now due to the Ukraine conflict, but beyond that yeah, their ratings have tanked.
They need Trump!
I don't, but they do.
You sure about that? You sure do mention him a lot.Quote:
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MAGA ! MAGA !
Funny how Russia starts a War and Covid is over in the MSM News Cycle.
And nobody reporting in Ukraine or Russia was wearing a mask.
I seen a few citizens with masks on but that was about it.
I guess the virus can not spread in make shift bomb shelters.
CNN thanked Putin today for saving their ratings.
I literally watched 3 hours of FOX, CNN, and MSNBC before I had enough of the War Coverage.
Normally I can only stand about 5 minutes of them combined on my daily consumption.
I kind of hope Putin invades NATO so we can get this party started.
And you all told me the Four Horseman was a Fairy Tale!?
Perhaps when they are in the bomb shelters they are in a seated position while eating,drinking and/or smoking.Quote:
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BTW the Canadian bitch Chrystia Freeland wants to make the emergency powers act permanent so that if anyone ever asks questions, the government just freezes their bank accounts (per the latest Russell Brand podcast) and destroys their lives.
It seems that this is in the Governmental Playbook these days.Quote:
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Invoke Emergency Powers illegally.
Revoke SOME of the Emergency Powers and keep others like being able to De-Bank any citizen at anytime.
In the Criminal World we call this bait and switch.
The Patriot Act is their template.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetIt seems that this is in the Governmental Playbook these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Invoke Emergency Powers illegally.
Revoke SOME of the Emergency Powers and keep others like being able to De-Bank any citizen at anytime.
In the Criminal World we call this bait and switch.
You can't get Ivermectin unless you are the Queen of England...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te304dCxf2I
LOL CDC holding back information because they fear the citizens can't interrupt it correctly lol lol lol
FUCKING SCAM!!
Keep your mouth shut and do what you're told! - Science -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHdpIx9IXGs
Well, her and her family do resemble a horse.Quote:
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https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...e-by-line.html
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...dc-expose.html
Thanks Monet, great episode.Quote:
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No doubt.Quote:
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Things are starting to make more sense.
It appears that our leaders decided to make all that Covid Relief money back by funding another war and getting the entire world to approve of it lol.
Facebook even has temporarily changed their rules to allow Hate Speech.
Turns out its ok if you use Hate Speech against Putin and or Russia.
They even allow you to praise the Ukrainian Nazis lol.
Turns out Nazis are good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZl_gwysrY
Strategic oil interests seem to be the most important thing. Another example is Saudi Arabia.Quote:
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It has been proven that more vaccinated people are dying from Covid now.
Told you not to take that experimental poison.
And you bastards took it three times if not four!
Just seen some interesting statistics. Worldometers currently records that 29% of the American population has had covid.
In Sweden just 25% of the population has had covid.
Sweden never shut down. They never had shelter in place or masks or any of that. And people are telling stories of how the nightlife was thriving in Sweden while it was crushed all over the rest of Europe.
25 to 29 percent of the entire population only experienced Covid once so far???
I don't believe those statistics.
That can not be accurate.
I mean everyone caught it and had no symptoms... right?
I might be reading your post wrong.
One thing is for certain... you can never be unvaccinated.
And... Total WorldWide Deaths are UP by a significant percentage since they implemented these experimental shots.
Long Live Big Brother!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fakzcKlWKL0
The stats are only from those that have been recorded as having covid. Many are asymptomatic and don't know they have or had it. Probably most of the population has had covid.Quote:
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But my point is that the shutdowns and masks that authoritarian leaders put us through didn't do jackshit.
Bbwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I hope all you cats what wet yerselves in fears gonna line up for the monkey-pox vaccine, plus endless booster, hey hey!!!!
Zero Human Trials but Eight Mice approve of Covid Boosters lol lol lol... hey, hey!!Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7b0H27jvLc
How about you boost your way to Weight Watchers you fat son of bitch!Quote:
Originally Posted by monetZero Human Trials but Eight Mice approve of Covid Boosters lol lol lol... hey, hey!!Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7b0H27jvLc
lolQuote:
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I remember back in the 80's when my grandmother was drinking those chocolate shakes.
That company is worth 1.5 Billion Dollars... geesh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH5TMCR8etc
It appears that the whole thing is nothing but another variant of the Flu and we will all get it from time to time in the near future.Quote:
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The scam was how our overlords seized more money and power from the populace.
And how they counted and still count Covid Deaths.
Asymptomatic Bullshit as I said from the first time I heard that.
I've had it twice so far.
First time I was down about 4 to 6 days before fully recovered.
Second time I was down about 2 to 3 days before fully recovered.
I did not take any type of Covid Shots and will continue to refuse such experiments.
NyQuil, Homemade Chicken Soup, Water, Vitamins, Sleep and Positive Thinking was my cure.
I'm not allowed to say prayer on this site so positive thinking it is.
Not only were you all scammed but you were lied to over and over again.
Don't forget to get your 4th booster.
lol "We had to move at the speed of Science."
Speed of Science???
I'm pretty sure you all moved faster than the speed of Science.
https://twitter.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...eaths-us-race/
Kinda doesn't tell us anything we don't know but surprised white deaths outpaced blacks just because the jab dontcha know.
sad but true...
Really exposes the libtard agenda, thanks for posting.Quote:
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Good Idea but probably just political posturing and nothing will come of it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkoHIvgIic