Finding Grandpa's Newell

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Originally Posted by BoSox

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I'm certainly no fan of Mr Singer. Our office still maintains a file on his libelous attacks against our client. But Mr MaxPen's vacant allegations are no better. A responsible forum manager would delete this thread because it was nothing more than trolling. Mr Druff weighed in on Mr Singer's claim and now it's time to pull the plug on this unsubstantiated attack. To allow it to continue opens the door to more libelous attacks and trolling which I am sure violates the rules of this forum.

To be blunt, if this thread with its vacant threats is allowed to stand it invites Mr Singer to return without restraint and we don't want that.

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What the hell are you talking about? Please feel free to cite an example.

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Evidentially you are the dumbest person in the room if you do not understand what you are doing by dragging this game of yours on and on with no end in sight.

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Wrong again bozo. I can drag out whatever as long as I want. I can even tell Rob to hide in the darkness until eternity so his secrets would remain safe. He would stay gone forever at that point.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by BoSox

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

What exactly do you mean by this? And what is your source? Is Singer closer to some sort of "rock bottom" because his 20 year troll as been thoroughly exposed?

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KewlJ, you only interpret other posts the way you want. My above quote starts with the word [B]If[B].

Whatever information that could be in the report and possibly told benefits absolutely no one at all. You may think that revealing what is in the information would be some kind of needed justice for yourself, once again you are self-centered and wrong. For just once think about who is going to lose the most out of the story coming out. Singer no way, he does not worry one bit about anything said on the internet and never has. Now who really stands to lose big time MaxPen think about it, and stop thinking about what you want for a change.

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It is not just myself BoSox. There is a lot of mention about anonymous posters. I can argue that while we as AP's, try to remain anonymous to those that would seek to do us harm, few of us are really anonymous in the AP community, especially among those that live and play Vegas regularly. While I have tried to keep my distance and not get to personal with other AP's here, many know exactly who I am, my real name, where I reside, one guy once described the physical appearance of me and my partner from an encounter at a casino. So I don't know how anonymous any of us are even though we use a "handle" instead of our real name.

But I will tell you who isn't anonymous is Alan Mendelson. Alan is one of a number of people on the internet that uses his real name. I guess Alan is even a bit of a minor celebrity having been a news reporter and later his paid infomercial business, of which I am not a fan of. I didn't know him as that and don't think of him as that. To me he is just Alan from the forums. 18 y.o. in a row Alan. :)

But this Rob Singer, who you are now defending and asking leniency for, in the last 6 months, posted on this very forum, that Alan had beaten up his girlfriend, been arrested and there was a restraining order against him. Alan denies this is true and again, being that Alan uses his real name, that is easy to look into and I see no mention of anything of the sort. Plus being a minor celebrity or ex-minor celebrity, such an incident probably would have made news somewhere. Some thing with a headline of Ex-TV personality...., accompanied by a mugshot of Alan with tussled hair. But there was not, because it wasn't true. Just another Singer lie to discredit and bring down someone.

So here is my point. This guy Singer isn't going to disappear. He hasn't for 20 years. Yes, he is laying low at the moment, just as he has done numerous other times when he has been exposed or embarrassed. But he always resurfaces, and just continues on, like an evil version of the energizer bunny. Attacking and slandering people along the way.

So yeah, if there is an opportunity to reveal something that will discredit him to the point that there is no sense in him returning, I am all for it. I am not talking about any kind of doxxing, or presenting personal information that could put him in danger or anything. But any information that clearly contradicts claims he has made is completely fair game. I welcome that final nail in the Singer fantasy claims in the hopes that we never have to deal with him again.

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Can you put up the quote where Singer said Alan beat his girlfriend, was arrested and had a restraining order. I don't recall any of that.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Time will tell.

But I will tell you this: if MaxPen fails to deliver, if it's all just been smoke and mirrors, his credibility will be substantially impaired.

I've no idea why he's stringing it along: maybe it is taking a bit of time to 'crystallize" his proof?

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Anyone who questions MaxPen's credibility is a fool.

Look, when Rob posted the phony picture at the RV dealership, something that Singer really thought was going to seal the deal, it took MaxPen less than a hour, probably less that a few minutes once he really got to it, to debunk that by locating the exact pictures of that same RV, right down to the bedspread and shower squeegee.

When Singer posted the phony bill of Sale, it took MaxPen only minutes, to find that exact downloadable form on the internet.

MaxPen has looked up and found much of the same information that I have on Singer, which contradicts his claims.


Now I don't know exactly what MaxPen has that he is thinking of revealing. I too know of a few things that further contradict Singer's long running fantasy claims, that I have thought about revealing, but decided against it as it is just a little outside of my comfort level. So Maybe it is one or more of those same things. Maybe something completely different that I don't know. I know at times, myself and several, not one but several people on this forum gave consideration to contacting Singers kids and family, just to let them know what was going on. Maybe MaxPen did that and received interesting reply from them. "Yeah Dad is out of his mind, I apologize for that". Something along that line.

Who knows. Could be anything, but if MaxPen says he has something, based on his history, I don't doubt him. Now whether he is having second thoughts, or just isn't sure how far he wants to go, or go at all. That is his call.

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Another one of KJochio's fantasies.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by BoSox

As far as this board goes there is a lack of consistency and often depends upon who is doing the talking may or may not face the scrutiny. I cannot count how many times that you yourself have questioned the truth of a high stakes Baccarat player whom Dan has yet to opine on. Someone calling everything equal on this site is not exactly giving an unbiased opinion.

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I was referring to how Dan unmasked and labeled Singer as a bullshit artist.

MDawg is trivial in comparison and hasn't yet managed to warrant scrutiny by the mod; besides even a third grader can see through his trollish bullishit "(I never lose at baccarat").

BoSox, your defense of Singer leads me to think you just like to root for the underdog and are a peace-maker at heart; nothing wrong with that other than it runs against the grain around here.

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Yes, I root for Singer because I think that currently, he is harmless although somewhat eccentric. The two latest things Rob spoke about the Newel and the double up bug hurt no one so why beat on an older man whose better days may be all behind him. Taking him down at this point in time is in my book a poor excuse for any victory celebration.

Regarding as you say MDawg's trivial in comparison, yah I suppose it is rather small considering his thread is only 118 PAGES LONG.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by blackhole

Where's the FUCKING BEEF?

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Should be asking ,,,,, where is Singer?

Answer- Hiding,,,, because he knows the gig is up and also what is about to befall him.

Hiding isn't going to help Grandpa Newell. Your date to pay for your sins is unavoidable gramps.

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Axel, are you sure you want to call this guy your friend?

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by BoSox

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

What the hell are you talking about? Please feel free to cite an example.

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Evidentially you are the dumbest person in the room if you do not understand what you are doing by dragging this game of yours on and on with no end in sight.

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Wrong again bozo. I can drag out whatever as long as I want. I can even tell Rob to hide in the darkness until eternity so his secrets would remain safe. He would stay gone forever at that point.

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You should look in the mirror moron.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

FYP

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But now it's 'yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo' or 36 yos. :cool:

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

The problem with you BoSox is you're the 2nd dumbest guy in the room next to blackhole. You have no clue what is going on....

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Maybe that makes me the dumbest because I dont know what's going on either. Is there some information that you have to reveal Mr. MaxPen or are you just trying to build suspense and page views for this forum?

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Maxpen has become far worse a human being than Singer ever was. All he is doing is revealing how evil and diabolical he is. He's damn sure not a person I would want to be associated with.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I can drag out whatever as long as I want. I can even tell Rob to hide in the darkness until eternity so his secrets would remain safe. He would stay gone forever at that point.

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I think the anonymous COWARD is running out of bullshit.

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Originally Posted by jbjb

But now it's 'yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo' or 36 yos. :cool:

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Your point is well taken.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Maxpen has become far worse a human being than Singer ever was. All he is doing is revealing how evil and diabolical he is. He's damn sure not a person I would want to be associated with.

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Give it a rest Crimm. Singer is a self proclaimed gun toting world traveling secret agent man. He can take care of his business himself. He made his bed and he can lie in it.

If shutting down a 20 year troll is diabolical and evil consider me guilty.

You talk about giving back 10x worse than you get...lol... You don't have a clue on how to get that done.

Keep in mind that Singer insinuated more than once someone could face down a gun for no reason at all. I guess I should just cuck out and join Camp Singer as a man servant like you did....lmao...that may be your style but it certainly isn't mine.

Whoa, I didn't know we had a Hollywood actor posting.

Three movies to his credit, too, the most recent in 2020.

*bows*

By report he even got an emmy (but not for acting)

All bullshit aside, that's pretty cool, well done Mr. whatevernameyoucallyourselfthesedays.

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Originally Posted by BoSox

Yes, I root for Singer because I think that currently, he is harmless although somewhat eccentric. The two latest things Rob spoke about the Newel and the double up bug hurt no one so why beat on an older man whose better days may be all behind him. Taking him down at this point in time is in my book a poor excuse for any victory celebration.

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BoSox, do you also "root for" and support Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon Bomber? He hasn't killed or hurt anyone in going on 8 years now. Why hold him accountable for things in the past?

Look, Singer has been wagering war against the AP community and some specific AP's (those that challenge him and his math defying claims) for 20 years. He doesn't get a pass because he has managed to grow old without dying. It is time to hold him accountable and more importantly, make sure he is so discredited, that he won't return.

Wise up! :cool:

There are many interesting angles to this. For example, here's something some folks may not be comfortable discussing. A thought experiment, if you will.

"Singer" has been anti-gay for eons on forums, and has been pretty mouthy and rancid in his putdowns of gays. Now, let's say (remember, it's a thought experiment, ahem) "Singer" has a member of his immediate family who decided she (or he) was gay. Should that family member be given a heads up as to "Singer's" nasty homophobic rhetoric in hundreds of posts all these years? For those who would say, "No," then what if that family member was asked to be a caregiver to "Singer" in his declining years? Would it be fair to NOT tell that family member? If you WERE that family member, or that family member's partner, would YOU want to know what Rob has been posting for decades regarding gays?

Why would any forum poster owe more loyalty to "Rob Singer" than to a gay member of "Singer's" immediate family?

If family members get exposed to someone's online shenanigans, then maybe it's the fault of the person posting the stuff in the first place.

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Originally Posted by redietz

There are many interesting angles to this. For example, here's something some folks may not be comfortable discussing. A thought experiment, if you will.

"Singer" has been anti-gay for eons on forums, and has been pretty mouthy and rancid in his putdowns of gays. Now, let's say (remember, it's a thought experiment, ahem) "Singer" has a member of his immediate family who decided she (or he) was gay. Should that family member be given a heads up as to "Singer's" nasty homophobic rhetoric in hundreds of posts all these years? For those who would say, "No," then what if that family member was asked to be a caregiver to "Singer" in his declining years? Would it be fair to NOT tell that family member? If you WERE that family member, or that family member's partner, would YOU want to know what Rob has been posting for decades regarding gays?

Why would any forum poster owe more loyalty to "Rob Singer" than to a gay member of "Singer's" immediate family?

If family members get exposed to someone's online shenanigans, then maybe it's the fault of the person posting the stuff in the first place.

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Rob Singer does not have anyone in his family that is gay. He wouldn't allow that. You know he is perfect and his family is perfect. Although Rob Singer is a fictitious, made up character.

Now Robert Harry Argentino?? Well I don't want to bring anyone's family into it (even though they didn't show me the same courtesy). But let's just say it seems like you may have stumbled onto one of the same pieces of info that I did quite a while ago.

Think of it this way: The made up, fictitious character, owns a Newell. The real person owns a pull behind Winnebago. That is the difference between fiction and reality and fiction writing and reality.

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Originally Posted by redietz

what Rob has been posting for decades regarding gays?

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How would the family member come to know what Rob has been posting for decades?

Are you going to send them one of your "packages"?...perhaps a copy of "Who's Who at VCT" ?

How'd that work out the last time? Are you sure you have enough packing tape left?

Don't you think Singer would already know if his kid was gay?

Don't you think his kid knows what Singer is really like, particularly as to LGBT issues?

I'm certain that telling the kid that Singer is homophobic would be about as shocking as telling the child of obese parents that his daddy loves to eat Twinkies.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Don't you think Singer would already know if his kid was gay?

Don't you think his kid knows what Singer is really like, particularly as to LGBT issues?

I'm certain that telling the kid that Singer is homophobic would be about as shocking as telling the child of obese parents that his daddy loves to eat Twinkies.

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Why did you jump to "kids". I didn't say "kids". The dude is 71 years old. His kids are full grown adults. Of course he would know if they were gay.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

He's harmlees.

But yeah, it may come down to that.

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Harmlees? [sic] Looks like you can't even type, and proofread, and the like.

Anyway, literally any way, come on, V, take it up the ass, like a man. I quickly pointed out your mistaking two yo's for one, in the word yo-yo, but, then, you wait hours to acknowledge the blunder only to jbjb, only after he (intentionally) ignorantly pointed out the very same thing that I did.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by jbjb

But now it's 'yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo yo-yo' or 36 yos. :cool:

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Your point is well taken.

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Your point is well taken? So Goddamnedly hilarious. You've finally reached (on-line) immortality, MrV, despite your childish view of such things. Know what I think? I think that you were right, after all, about there being thirty-six yo's involved. I mean, eighteen for you, and, eighteen for the other eternal idiot here, Alan. Say, just as I "predicted", about you and Alan, in the Portland thread. A couple of eternally joined fools in also the real and actual world.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...912#post121912

Looks like all your overwhelmingly overwrought writing, about being a divorce lawyer on weed, sex, and music no one else could, ever, listen to, wasn't merely, supposedly, an odd excuse for your repeated idiotic behavior on line. No, it was to try to cover for some deep-seated and chronic psychological condition. Lots of obvious mistakes that no real and actual lawyer could and would make. Lots of constant appearances all over the internet forums that no real and actual lawyer could and would make. Wall-to-wall humorless silliness, nay, misery, that you tried so hard to pass off as thought-out absurdity. No, there really and actually is something very disturbingly off with you. Much more so than, supposedly, the other idiot lawyer here, Regnis (Singer backwards). The guy who repeated his claims that he was a long-term professional dice setter for profit, and, that he really and actually picked the username, Regnis, before Singer came along.

MrV, are you on high doses of pot, and other drugs to help allay your schizophrenia? You mentioned so much such experimentation with other drugs, from early on, I now wonder that it wasn't all for the long term. Perhaps, it's not narcissism at all, but, a good dose of delusions of grandeur, and, outright, clinical paranoia. Fuck, the truly crazy persons who pop up out of nowhere on line.

Oh, well, it's all very out-there now. Right as rain, especially when it comes to the dip-shit, MrV, who wrote that it takes eighteen yo-yo's to add up to eighteen yo's. Jesus Christ, MrV. Not. But, it surely is Goddamned funny exactly how things worked out here. The greatest "reveal", ever. And, right on cue. So glad to have played such a pivotal role.

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Originally Posted by jbjb

18 yos!

https://i.imgur.com/L1aDby2.jpg

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Jbjb is, in fact, correct. Each yo-yo has two yo's.

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On the other had, well, it has to be pointed out how much of a dip-shit old MrV really and actually is.

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Yeah, V, you better put me on ignore. Just like all the other eternally foolish here who fall all over themselves, every chance they get, to point it out to me. They really and actually do just ignore you, but, with me, well, for some reason, ha, it's different.

This is a forum for gamblers.
We are supposed to be talking about gambling here.
You Fuckers are sick.
Go to some Fag Forum and talk about Faggot Shit.
Once again this forum is for gamblers in all aspects of gambling meant to talk about gambling.
You may hate MDawg but at least he talks about... GAMBLING!
Tableplay, MickeyCrimm... they give out gambling advice and math.
Good People.
Movie, Food, Juice, Weight Loss, Song, and Covid threads are exempt but let's remember to talk about gambling.
I thought you all were Advantage Players???
Take, Take, Take but never give anything back for free.
You can have Redietz's sports picks but you have to pay cash for them.
TOTAL SCAM.
ASSHOLES!

Hi, Monet. How's it going? Mcap?

You know, on a couple of the numerology forums, I think, they were afraid to acknowledge me. Ha.

I mean, they believed in "spells", that if they read it, well, something would happen to them.

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Originally Posted by Garnabby

Hi, Monet. How's it going? Mcap?

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You and others may not like me but at least I talk about gambling and I give out a bunch of free information on how to gamble and get an edge.
Sure, it may only net you 6 dollars an hour but its real information and once again it is about GAMBLING.
Mother Fuckers making me want to drop some real knowledge on this forum about better plays currently out there.
Ohhhh but the APs will hate me for posting up their livelyhood.
DarkOz is Fucked up but I respect his gambling information.
It's real... not sure about 20k per week/month but the premise is true.
Fuck that... Power to the People!
Wonder Twin Powers... Activate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FouDjI3GzEI

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Maxpen has become far worse a human being than Singer ever was. All he is doing is revealing how evil and diabolical he is. He's damn sure not a person I would want to be associated with.

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Give it a rest Crimm. Singer is a self proclaimed gun toting world traveling secret agent man. He can take care of his business himself. He made his bed and he can lie in it.

If shutting down a 20 year troll is diabolical and evil consider me guilty.

You talk about giving back 10x worse than you get...lol... You don't have a clue on how to get that done.

Keep in mind that Singer insinuated more than once someone could face down a gun for no reason at all. I guess I should just cuck out and join Camp Singer as a man servant like you did....lmao...that may be your style but it certainly isn't mine.

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Singer trolled because different people became obsessed with him. It was actually amusing watching people being played like a fiddle at Singer's discretion " even with some deliberate fabrications built-in " without all that gullibility and interference talk of his personal life, you might have seen a different man. Just possibly some people got what they deserved as it takes two to tango.

Meanwhile, carry on with all of your foolishness, but what others are saying about you, you are confirming everything being said, I hope that you are proud.

You're one of the good ones, Monet. You and Tablepooey. The proverbial scorpion (and turtle) crossing river.

By all means, do carry on. And with the many edits. I, too, do this. It's a lot easier to just read the post than to try to find it in the smaller editor window. That gestalt, or synergy, thing that Red has going on.

Now as old V wrote, "Old Boy, Cheerio, Pip Pip, Toodaloo, and, Fuck Off." Ha.

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Maxpen has become far worse a human being than Singer ever was. All he is doing is revealing how evil and diabolical he is. He's damn sure not a person I would want to be associated with.

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Give it a rest Crimm. Singer is a self proclaimed gun toting world traveling secret agent man. He can take care of his business himself. He made his bed and he can lie in it.

If shutting down a 20 year troll is diabolical and evil consider me guilty.

You talk about giving back 10x worse than you get...lol... You don't have a clue on how to get that done.

Keep in mind that Singer insinuated more than once someone could face down a gun for no reason at all. I guess I should just cuck out and join Camp Singer as a man servant like you did....lmao...that may be your style but it certainly isn't mine.

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Dude, you have revealed yourself as just not much of a person. This is a site full of trolls talking bullshit. No harm done. But you are out to harm people. Axel and anyone else that knows you should reconsider associating with you. KJochio is reveling in your intent to harm people so he should be considered evil as well. I always knew you and KJochio were packing each other up the ass.

Maxpen, KJ and redietz. The evil empire of VCT. It's sad these three have devolved to such intense depravity.

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Originally Posted by redietz

There are many interesting angles to this. For example, here's something some folks may not be comfortable discussing. A thought experiment, if you will.

"Singer" has been anti-gay for eons on forums, and has been pretty mouthy and rancid in his putdowns of gays. Now, let's say (remember, it's a thought experiment, ahem) "Singer" has a member of his immediate family who decided she (or he) was gay. Should that family member be given a heads up as to "Singer's" nasty homophobic rhetoric in hundreds of posts all these years? For those who would say, "No," then what if that family member was asked to be a caregiver to "Singer" in his declining years? Would it be fair to NOT tell that family member? If you WERE that family member, or that family member's partner, would YOU want to know what Rob has been posting for decades regarding gays?

Why would any forum poster owe more loyalty to "Rob Singer" than to a gay member of "Singer's" immediate family?

If family members get exposed to someone's online shenanigans, then maybe it's the fault of the person posting the stuff in the first place.

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You are now as bad as KJochio with the fantastical delusional bullshit.

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Originally Posted by monet

This is a forum for gamblers.
We are supposed to be talking about gambling here.
You Fuckers are sick.
Go to some Fag Forum and talk about Faggot Shit.
Once again this forum is for gamblers in all aspects of gambling meant to talk about gambling.
You may hate MDawg but at least he talks about... GAMBLING!
Tableplay, MickeyCrimm... they give out gambling advice and math.
Good People.
Movie, Food, Juice, Weight Loss, Song, and Covid threads are exempt but let's remember to talk about gambling.
I thought you all were Advantage Players???
Take, Take, Take but never give anything back for free.
You can have Redietz's sports picks but you have to pay cash for them.
TOTAL SCAM.
ASSHOLES!

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Maybe Todd can start a new forum and call it "Diversity Today"

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Originally Posted by monet

the premise is true.

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The premise is that running freeplay through once generates more freeplay.

Is that true?

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The premise is that running freeplay through once generates more freeplay.

Is that true?

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Not sure because I only play in Las Vegas.
A long time ago you could get rated off of your free play but that was a long time ago.
For the most part, at least in Vegas, they want to see you put some coin through... not just pick up free play and leave.
Some places, these days will cut you off if you just pick up.
My instincts tell me that the premise of you generating free play off of picking up free play is a very low chance.
Possible but difficult to believe.
Shit Happens though.

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Maybe Todd can start a new forum and call it "Diversity Today"

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Nice Zinger!

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Dude, you have revealed yourself as just not much of a person.

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Crapgame did that awhile ago, when he bragged about charging his fellow enlisted men 100% interest for loans out of the Quartermaster's store.

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Possible but difficult to believe.

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Have you ever read that such a thing exists (or existed) from anyone other than the bus rider?

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Maxpen has become far worse a human being than Singer ever was. All he is doing is revealing how evil and diabolical he is. He's damn sure not a person I would want to be associated with.

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Give it a rest Crimm. Singer is a self proclaimed gun toting world traveling secret agent man. He can take care of his business himself. He made his bed and he can lie in it.

If shutting down a 20 year troll is diabolical and evil consider me guilty.

You talk about giving back 10x worse than you get...lol... You don't have a clue on how to get that done.

Keep in mind that Singer insinuated more than once someone could face down a gun for no reason at all. I guess I should just cuck out and join Camp Singer as a man servant like you did....lmao...that may be your style but it certainly isn't mine.

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Dude, you have revealed yourself as just not much of a person. This is a site full of trolls talking bullshit. No harm done. But you are out to harm people. Axel and anyone else that knows you should reconsider associating with you. KJochio is reveling in your intent to harm people so he should be considered evil as well. I always knew you and KJochio were packing each other up the ass.

Maxpen, KJ and redietz. The evil empire of VCT. It's sad these three have devolved to such intense depravity.

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Have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain how I am out to harm someone. No wonder you bitched out into the man servant role when Singer worked you over. When the SHTF you roll right over. Mr 10x.....lol
Singer does a fine enough job harming himself. Look at where his life actions have gotten him.

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Give it a rest Crimm. Singer is a self proclaimed gun toting world traveling secret agent man. He can take care of his business himself. He made his bed and he can lie in it.

If shutting down a 20 year troll is diabolical and evil consider me guilty.

You talk about giving back 10x worse than you get...lol... You don't have a clue on how to get that done.

Keep in mind that Singer insinuated more than once someone could face down a gun for no reason at all. I guess I should just cuck out and join Camp Singer as a man servant like you did....lmao...that may be your style but it certainly isn't mine.

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Dude, you have revealed yourself as just not much of a person. This is a site full of trolls talking bullshit. No harm done. But you are out to harm people. Axel and anyone else that knows you should reconsider associating with you. KJochio is reveling in your intent to harm people so he should be considered evil as well. I always knew you and KJochio were packing each other up the ass.

Maxpen, KJ and redietz. The evil empire of VCT. It's sad these three have devolved to such intense depravity.

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Have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain how I am out to harm someone. No wonder you bitched out into the man servant role when Singer worked you over. When the SHTF you roll right over. Mr 10x.....lol
Singer does a fine enough job harming himself. Look at where his life actions have gotten him.

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

Seems to be about time to shit or get off the pot?

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Tableplay, MickeyCrimm... they give out gambling advice and math.
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Thanks Monet, you as well of course.

I worry about MaxPen.

Singer is one thing but MaxPen should NOT be laughing at DiDi's 10x. Just wait until Max hits the 20x or 30x. That shit is no joke. It won't just be the standard DiDi talk about doing your dad or whatever the fuck, Didi will move on to pets, other family members. Even harder hitting insults that we can't even conceive.

Please Maxpen, tread carefully.

BTW, quite amusing how Crimm loves play manservant role for other men. Trump I can at least understand.. but Singer?!?!?!

Mickey defending Singer to this extent, is strange indeed. Singer is without a doubt in the wrong here on numerous levels. Why he keeps backing his old nemesis is beyond comprehension.

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I worry about MaxPen.

Singer is one thing but MaxPen should NOT be laughing at DiDi's 10x. Just wait until Max hits the 20x or 30x. That shit is no joke. It won't just be the standard DiDi talk about doing your dad or whatever the fuck, Didi will move on to pets, other family members. Even harder hitting insults that we can't even conceive.

Please Maxpen, tread carefully.

BTW, quite amusing how Crimm loves play manservant role for other men. Trump I can at least understand.. but Singer?!?!?!

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Accountinquestion, Mickeycrimm is not taking sides on the issue he is just giving his perspective of what is going on that's it. All of this must be easy for you sitting back safely in the cheap seats waiting to see all the commotion going on without any shit in the game.

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Mickey defending Singer to this extent, is strange indeed. Singer is without a doubt in the wrong here on numerous levels. Why he keeps backing his old nemesis is beyond comprehension.

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Ozzy, I think you are completely missing the point on this one.

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Dude, you have revealed yourself as just not much of a person. This is a site full of trolls talking bullshit. No harm done. But you are out to harm people. Axel and anyone else that knows you should reconsider associating with you. KJochio is reveling in your intent to harm people so he should be considered evil as well. I always knew you and KJochio were packing each other up the ass.

Maxpen, KJ and redietz. The evil empire of VCT. It's sad these three have devolved to such intense depravity.

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Have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain how I am out to harm someone. No wonder you bitched out into the man servant role when Singer worked you over. When the SHTF you roll right over. Mr 10x.....lol
Singer does a fine enough job harming himself. Look at where his life actions have gotten him.

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

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Actually, mickey, that's not true. I kind of like the fact you support "Singer." Call it selfish, but when a superficially smart gambling guy, like yourself, takes asinine positions that will be provably wrong....well, it just makes me feel smarter. Smarter than you and smarter in general.

If you'll notice, I haven't exactly been coaxing you to change your position on "Singer." I don't want you to "roll over." You are exactly where I want you to be, vis a vis "Singer."

You're just going to be, and please quote me on this, wrong, which is not terribly new on this forum.

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Have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain how I am out to harm someone. No wonder you bitched out into the man servant role when Singer worked you over. When the SHTF you roll right over. Mr 10x.....lol
Singer does a fine enough job harming himself. Look at where his life actions have gotten him.

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

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Actually, mickey, that's not true. I kind of like the fact you support "Singer." Call it selfish, but when a superficially smart gambling guy, like yourself, takes asinine positions that will be provably wrong....well, it just makes me feel smarter. Smarter than you and smarter in general.

If you'll notice, I haven't exactly been coaxing you to change your position on "Singer." I don't want you to "roll over." You are exactly where I want you to be, vis a vis "Singer."

You're just going to be, and please quote me on this, wrong, which is not terribly new on this forum.

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

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Actually, mickey, that's not true. I kind of like the fact you support "Singer." Call it selfish, but when a superficially smart gambling guy, like yourself, takes asinine positions that will be provably wrong....well, it just makes me feel smarter. Smarter than you and smarter in general.

If you'll notice, I haven't exactly been coaxing you to change your position on "Singer." I don't want you to "roll over." You are exactly where I want you to be, vis a vis "Singer."

You're just going to be, and please quote me on this, wrong, which is not terribly new on this forum.

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Mickey defending Singer to this extent, is strange indeed. Singer is without a doubt in the wrong here on numerous levels. Why he keeps backing his old nemesis is beyond comprehension.

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Well, it's not beyond comprehension.

You have one dude who has maintained a 30-year fictitious storyline about his gambling history and overall life arc. Another dude, also with a 30-year storyline about his gambling history and life arc, becomes friends with him. Presumably they might tell each other some truths.

Person A is on the verge of having the storyline go up in flames. Person B gets nervous. Figure it out.

redietz, a true Wise Guy recipient.

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Dude, you have revealed yourself as just not much of a person. This is a site full of trolls talking bullshit. No harm done. But you are out to harm people. Axel and anyone else that knows you should reconsider associating with you. KJochio is reveling in your intent to harm people so he should be considered evil as well. I always knew you and KJochio were packing each other up the ass.

Maxpen, KJ and redietz. The evil empire of VCT. It's sad these three have devolved to such intense depravity.

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Have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain how I am out to harm someone. No wonder you bitched out into the man servant role when Singer worked you over. When the SHTF you roll right over. Mr 10x.....lol
Singer does a fine enough job harming himself. Look at where his life actions have gotten him.

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

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Typical and expected response from the Man Servant Mickey 10x. You can't explain yourself because your just talking out your ass. So now you just say to fuck off. Then you console yourself with the thought that you gave it back 10x....lol....

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Mickey defending Singer to this extent, is strange indeed. Singer is without a doubt in the wrong here on numerous levels. Why he keeps backing his old nemesis is beyond comprehension.

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I'VE NEVER DEFENDED SINGER. I'VE DEFENDED THE TRUTH. All KJochio has to do is stick to the facts and he has no problem with me. But he makes shit up, twists the facts up, uses half truths and innuendos to support his narrative. Maxpen and redietz are his bitches. Together they make up the Three Evil Stooges of VCT. And THEY are MORE diabolical than Singer ever was.

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Have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain how I am out to harm someone. No wonder you bitched out into the man servant role when Singer worked you over. When the SHTF you roll right over. Mr 10x.....lol
Singer does a fine enough job harming himself. Look at where his life actions have gotten him.

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

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Actually, mickey, that's not true. I kind of like the fact you support "Singer." Call it selfish, but when a superficially smart gambling guy, like yourself, takes asinine positions that will be provably wrong....well, it just makes me feel smarter. Smarter than you and smarter in general.

If you'll notice, I haven't exactly been coaxing you to change your position on "Singer." I don't want you to "roll over." You are exactly where I want you to be, vis a vis "Singer."

You're just going to be, and please quote me on this, wrong, which is not terribly new on this forum.

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I don't "support" Singer, scumbag. I support the truth, Mr. Shut Everything Down For Years. Maggot.

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Mickey defending Singer to this extent, is strange indeed. Singer is without a doubt in the wrong here on numerous levels. Why he keeps backing his old nemesis is beyond comprehension.

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Well, it's not beyond comprehension.

You have one dude who has maintained a 30-year fictitious storyline about his gambling history and overall life arc. Another dude, also with a 30-year storyline about his gambling history and life arc, becomes friends with him. Presumably they might tell each other some truths.

Person A is on the verge of having the storyline go up in flames. Person B gets nervous. Figure it out.

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You are the one that is nervous, maggot. You're shaking like a leaf. How are you coming along with your claim that you use your real name on VCT? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You should talk to Druff about that. I'm sure he will change it to your real name. But we all know you are a gutless wonder.

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Have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain how I am out to harm someone. No wonder you bitched out into the man servant role when Singer worked you over. When the SHTF you roll right over. Mr 10x.....lol
Singer does a fine enough job harming himself. Look at where his life actions have gotten him.

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

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Typical and expected response from the Man Servant Mickey 10x. You can't explain yourself because your just talking out your ass. So now you just say to fuck off. Then you console yourself with the thought that you gave it back 10x....lol....

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How does it feel that everyone now knows you are a lowlife maggot....and KJochio's bitch?

Mickeycrimm, you can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better.

The facts are:

Singers outrageous claims and 20 plays year troll of the AP community has come to an end.

His final acts, final cards to play were
1) Taking pictures of himself inside an RV at the dealership, pretending it was his.
2) Posting a phony bill of sale, printed out from the internet for a company that was bankrupt and closed at the time.
3) Sneaking up on the side of a Newell RV at an RV Park (that did not match the Newell in #1) pretending that was his.
4) Posting a phony ad in RV trader of an RV that did not exist, only to announce the sale a day later to someone from Israel who bought the RV sight unseen.

Each attempt grew weaker and more desperate to the point that even forum owner Dan Druff, who provided the platform for this ongoing troll and allowed Singer back to the forum that he was banned, Even Dan Druff who enjoys this kind of drama and shenanigans, had to weigh in that this "hoax" was over.

You will say that Dan Druff is just one opinion, no different than anyone else. Not so. In this case Druff represented the voice of reality. It would have probably been better for Druff, forum traffic-wise to not say anything and let the drama continue. But there comes a time when reality takes hold, when enough is enough, so he said what everyone, including you already know, that everything about Singer and his claims were a long running hoax.

Singer made a feeble attempt to fight back, calling Druff a loser, and broke California Flake, but that amounted to Saddam Hussein yelling "death to America" as he was pulled from his hole in the ground, like a dog. And then after one feeble attempt, Singer, knowing the game was over disappeared, leaving you, embarrassed and unable to admit you were wrong to fight on for him. I mean just think about that. Singer ran for the hills like a coward General, while asking you to fight on. Tell me again who the sucker is?

It might be one of the first times in history, that a 519k behemoth, extreme depreciating asset, was sold sight unseen within 24 hours, to a Israeli no less. Odds of that being true......0 nada.

I won't lie and say it isn't amusing but I won't ever support messing with someone's life via these forums. I wouldn't want it done to me and I won't support it done to others.

Singer deserves whatever happens to him. He's also the guy who was calling the casino asking about the videopoker situation. It is likely he did something like this just to try and get back at APs by flailing about.

Someone in this thread has been triggered - I feel. It is freakish how some posters on here attach themselves to other men in various ways outside of the open gayness.

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It might be one of the first times in history, that a 519k behemoth, extreme depreciating asset, was sold sight unseen within 24 hours, to a Israeli no less. Odds of that being true......0 nada.

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Yeah like 18 y.o.'s in a row to the third power. :D

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It might be one of the first times in history, that a 519k behemoth, extreme depreciating asset, was sold sight unseen within 24 hours, to a Israeli no less. Odds of that being true......0 nada.

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The only question is to what degree did Singer expect this ploy to be believed? I mean we're sort of the point where sure he gets people talking about him but that is IT. No one is even debating whether this is true. Some will say Singer is winning because we talk about this situation. Sure. But what did he actually think would happen? How deep are the delusions vs sitting back loling at getting a response. One has to think it is mostly the latter but I wouldn't bet much on it. He might legitimately be this deluded.

To me this is good stuff. #forumlife lmao

last edit - And all the stuff I said about Singer's situation was totally made up fantasy. I just want to reiterate that. I know nothing of him or his affairs. :)

All I know is the Flyers won again today 3-0.

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Mickey defending Singer to this extent, is strange indeed. Singer is without a doubt in the wrong here on numerous levels. Why he keeps backing his old nemesis is beyond comprehension.

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Well, it's not beyond comprehension.

You have one dude who has maintained a 30-year fictitious storyline about his gambling history and overall life arc. Another dude, also with a 30-year storyline about his gambling history and life arc, becomes friends with him. Presumably they might tell each other some truths.

Person A is on the verge of having the storyline go up in flames. Person B gets nervous. Figure it out.

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You are the one that is nervous, maggot. You're shaking like a leaf. How are you coming along with your claim that you use your real name on VCT? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You should talk to Druff about that. I'm sure he will change it to your real name. But we all know you are a gutless wonder.

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Sorry, mickey, I realize now that the lack of periods threw you. For the record, it's R.E. Dietz.

I thought linking to my blog several times, where it says "Bob Dietz's Integrity Sports" in oversized letters might be a clue that's my name, but I realize Bob and Robert have different initials, so that's probably why mickey feels I'm "gutless." I need to spell out that the R. in R.E. is for Robert, and Bob and Robert are kind of the same. My bad, mickey, I'll do better.

Not entirely sure why mickey thinks I'm being gutless. I'm sure he has my address, 1412 Forrest Dale Lane. I remember that because when mickey and I were on better terms, he explained to me that the seemingly aberrant spelling of "Forrest" was likely for a local Confederate general. I appreciated his ability to explain that. People think I'm butchering simple spelling when I use the official "Forrest" spelling. Being a former school spelling champ and all, I'm annoyed that people think I can't spell "Forest."

I'm sure now that I've gotten everyone up to speed, full-of-guts mickey crimm will come clean about his actual name and actual address.

Or not. LOL.

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Well I do. :cool: And I can tell you most of what he claimed about himself was made up. Not just the RV and double up bug and progressive system win, but most of his life, down to employment and education.

About the only thing Singer claimed that was true is that he has remained married for a long time. I mean even his kids....he has kids that have been successful and now support him. Most parents would be thrilled at having kids more successful than them. Isn't that every parents dream? But Singer, no, he couldn't do that. He tried to take credit with his phony tales of buying them house, when the fact is they bought their own homes and now support him.

It is funny, for all the attacks from Singer of various people living in their mothers basement, it is Singer who lives, I don't know if it is in the basement, but in his children's houses with them supporting him. How many times did Singer tell the lie that I had a "sugardaddy". I didn't have a sugardaddy, I had a partner, spouse and best friend. But turns out Singer has....I guess ..."sugar kids" that support him. And now he fears those very kids that support him may learn of his exploits and illness, including the things he said about them and their spouses....and might be pissed. So he has slinked away hoping this dies.

By the way, this is known as "projecting". When these trolls use some kind of put down to others, it is almost always from their own experiences. Anyone remember Singer attacking someone (maybe Mickey) about standing outside the grocery store selling their monthly food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar so they had money to go gamble? Do you think he pulled that from the blue. I mean guess who was thrown off the food stamp program for abuse in real life?

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You and the other two idiots, KJochio and redietz have been trying to get me to roll over for how long now? How is that working out for you? You fucking scumbags deserve each other. It's you punk pieces of shit that are trying to rollover people. All of you should be shunned in the AP world. Fuck off and die, bitches.

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Typical and expected response from the Man Servant Mickey 10x. You can't explain yourself because your just talking out your ass. So now you just say to fuck off. Then you console yourself with the thought that you gave it back 10x....lol....

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How does it feel that everyone now knows you are a lowlife maggot....and KJochio's bitch?

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"Maggot"....lol.... That must be one of your 11x multipliers......
How far down did you have to dig into your vitriolic hobo bag of tricks to come up with that one?,,,, pathetic

You still haven't explained how I am out to harm someone.

All you have done is fling poop like a caged monkey. You like truth. That's the truth.

Now run along,,,,, Singer is calling for you Man Servant Crimm. He needs the front 9 serviced.

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Mickeycrimm, you can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better.

The facts are:

Singers outrageous claims and 20 plays year troll of the AP community has come to an end.

His final acts, final cards to play were
1) Taking pictures of himself inside an RV at the dealership, pretending it was his.
2) Posting a phony bill of sale, printed out from the internet for a company that was bankrupt and closed at the time.
3) Sneaking up on the side of a Newell RV at an RV Park (that did not match the Newell in #1) pretending that was his.
4) Posting a phony ad in RV trader of an RV that did not exist, only to announce the sale a day later to someone from Israel who bought the RV sight unseen.

Each attempt grew weaker and more desperate to the point that even forum owner Dan Druff, who provided the platform for this ongoing troll and allowed Singer back to the forum that he was banned, Even Dan Druff who enjoys this kind of drama and shenanigans, had to weigh in that this "hoax" was over.

You will say that Dan Druff is just one opinion, no different than anyone else. Not so. In this case Druff represented the voice of reality. It would have probably been better for Druff, forum traffic-wise to not say anything and let the drama continue. But there comes a time when reality takes hold, when enough is enough, so he said what everyone, including you already know, that everything about Singer and his claims were a long running hoax.

Singer made a feeble attempt to fight back, calling Druff a loser, and broke California Flake, but that amounted to Saddam Hussein yelling "death to America" as he was pulled from his hole in the ground, like a dog. And then after one feeble attempt, Singer, knowing the game was over disappeared, leaving you, embarrassed and unable to admit you were wrong to fight on for him. I mean just think about that. Singer ran for the hills like a coward General, while asking you to fight on. Tell me again who the sucker is?

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Without a doubt KewlJ it is you that is the bigger sucker here. Since you have given your own opinion on the matter now hundreds of times is the primary reason that you got taken time and time again hook line and "Singer". I would like to take a stab at a theory on all of this spectacle.

Following the huge long-lasting battle that took place over the double up bug Singer was in his glory he could not believe a few months of continual commotion all about him. Much more controversy than he himself could ever have anticipated. Now he thrived on all the limelight and wanted as well as desired more.

Thinking it would not have to be well planned because of the name recognition he was going to have a ball as entertainment from the mob spearheaded by "KewlJ" was a guarantee. Singer, does not devise a serious scheme that can be completely broken down and torn apart in roughly 40 to 45 minutes, how ridiculous, he doesn't work that way. Once again I believe the whole purpose was to devise a simple plan that will serve the purpose. Luckily he had drama man KJ to count on and would not require much effort at all.

The real joy would happen for him when his story fell apart and the small mob started rejoicing completely oblivious that they all had hooks so far up their ass.

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Really Bosox. And this grand plan of Singer's to get the last laugh involved bankruptcies, evictions and food stamp fraud?

Damn, he is good!
He really got me. :rolleyes:

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The real joy would happen for him when his story fell apart and the small mob started rejoicing completely oblivious that they all had hooks so far up their ass.

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Really Bosox. And this grand plan of Singer's to get the last laugh involved bankruptcies, evictions and food stamp fraud?

Damn, he is good!
He really got me. :rolleyes:

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See MaxPen you waited too long!

Actually, Max, that was a smart move on your part. Did you steal that idea from Mark Twain?

https://medium.com/@thenthgen/the-mo...r-e92f86f6afb3

Kewlj must have repeated everything he believes Rob did 50 times in the last 20 pages of this thread. It's getting played out Kewlj.

Now repeat after me .... The Coward is just a Coward. His entire story is bullshit. He has nothing. Close this fucking thread. I don't think I could stomach another history review of Rob from Kewlj.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Mickeycrimm, you can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better.

The facts are:

Singers outrageous claims and 20 plays year troll of the AP community has come to an end.

His final acts, final cards to play were
1) Taking pictures of himself inside an RV at the dealership, pretending it was his.
2) Posting a phony bill of sale, printed out from the internet for a company that was bankrupt and closed at the time.
3) Sneaking up on the side of a Newell RV at an RV Park (that did not match the Newell in #1) pretending that was his.
4) Posting a phony ad in RV trader of an RV that did not exist, only to announce the sale a day later to someone from Israel who bought the RV sight unseen.

Each attempt grew weaker and more desperate to the point that even forum owner Dan Druff, who provided the platform for this ongoing troll and allowed Singer back to the forum that he was banned, Even Dan Druff who enjoys this kind of drama and shenanigans, had to weigh in that this "hoax" was over.

You will say that Dan Druff is just one opinion, no different than anyone else. Not so. In this case Druff represented the voice of reality. It would have probably been better for Druff, forum traffic-wise to not say anything and let the drama continue. But there comes a time when reality takes hold, when enough is enough, so he said what everyone, including you already know, that everything about Singer and his claims were a long running hoax.

Singer made a feeble attempt to fight back, calling Druff a loser, and broke California Flake, but that amounted to Saddam Hussein yelling "death to America" as he was pulled from his hole in the ground, like a dog. And then after one feeble attempt, Singer, knowing the game was over disappeared, leaving you, embarrassed and unable to admit you were wrong to fight on for him. I mean just think about that. Singer ran for the hills like a coward General, while asking you to fight on. Tell me again who the sucker is?

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Without a doubt KewlJ it is you that is the bigger sucker here. Since you have given your own opinion on the matter now hundreds of times is the primary reason that you got taken time and time again hook line and "Singer". I would like to take a stab at a theory on all of this spectacle.

Following the huge long-lasting battle that took place over the double up bug Singer was in his glory he could not believe a few months of continual commotion all about him. Much more controversy than he himself could ever have anticipated. Now he thrived on all the limelight and wanted as well as desired more.

Thinking it would not have to be well planned because of the name recognition he was going to have a ball as entertainment from the mob spearheaded by "KewlJ" was a guarantee. Singer, does not devise a serious scheme that can be completely broken down and torn apart in roughly 40 to 45 minutes, how ridiculous, he doesn't work that way. Once again I believe the whole purpose was to devise a simple plan that will serve the purpose. Luckily he had drama man KJ to count on and would not require much effort at all.

The real joy would happen for him when his story fell apart and the small mob started rejoicing completely oblivious that they all had hooks so far up their ass.

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You really are dumb. This stuff was funny when Rob showed up and talked his way into a Newell to pose for photos. Seeing him out there. Whatever his intention was, it was funny.

You act as if this small mob actually thought he might own a Newell? Why the fuck else would they "rejoice".

Funny everyone going after Kewlj but Singer was 100% relentless trolling Kewlj over anything and everything. Kewl does same shit back and everyone's rose colored glasses kick in for Rob.

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Mickeycrimm, you can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better.

The facts are:

Singers outrageous claims and 20 plays year troll of the AP community has come to an end.

His final acts, final cards to play were
1) Taking pictures of himself inside an RV at the dealership, pretending it was his.
2) Posting a phony bill of sale, printed out from the internet for a company that was bankrupt and closed at the time.
3) Sneaking up on the side of a Newell RV at an RV Park (that did not match the Newell in #1) pretending that was his.
4) Posting a phony ad in RV trader of an RV that did not exist, only to announce the sale a day later to someone from Israel who bought the RV sight unseen.

Each attempt grew weaker and more desperate to the point that even forum owner Dan Druff, who provided the platform for this ongoing troll and allowed Singer back to the forum that he was banned, Even Dan Druff who enjoys this kind of drama and shenanigans, had to weigh in that this "hoax" was over.

You will say that Dan Druff is just one opinion, no different than anyone else. Not so. In this case Druff represented the voice of reality. It would have probably been better for Druff, forum traffic-wise to not say anything and let the drama continue. But there comes a time when reality takes hold, when enough is enough, so he said what everyone, including you already know, that everything about Singer and his claims were a long running hoax.

Singer made a feeble attempt to fight back, calling Druff a loser, and broke California Flake, but that amounted to Saddam Hussein yelling "death to America" as he was pulled from his hole in the ground, like a dog. And then after one feeble attempt, Singer, knowing the game was over disappeared, leaving you, embarrassed and unable to admit you were wrong to fight on for him. I mean just think about that. Singer ran for the hills like a coward General, while asking you to fight on. Tell me again who the sucker is?

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Without a doubt KewlJ it is you that is the bigger sucker here. Since you have given your own opinion on the matter now hundreds of times is the primary reason that you got taken time and time again hook line and "Singer". I would like to take a stab at a theory on all of this spectacle.

Following the huge long-lasting battle that took place over the double up bug Singer was in his glory he could not believe a few months of continual commotion all about him. Much more controversy than he himself could ever have anticipated. Now he thrived on all the limelight and wanted as well as desired more.

Thinking it would not have to be well planned because of the name recognition he was going to have a ball as entertainment from the mob spearheaded by "KewlJ" was a guarantee. Singer, does not devise a serious scheme that can be completely broken down and torn apart in roughly 40 to 45 minutes, how ridiculous, he doesn't work that way. Once again I believe the whole purpose was to devise a simple plan that will serve the purpose. Luckily he had drama man KJ to count on and would not require much effort at all.

The real joy would happen for him when his story fell apart and the small mob started rejoicing completely oblivious that they all had hooks so far up their ass.

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You really are dumb. This stuff was funny when Rob showed up and talked his way into a Newell to pose for photos. Seeing him out there. Whatever his intention was, it was funny.

You act as if this small mob actually thought he might own a Newell? Why the fuck else would they "rejoice".

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I know you are a little slow so I will explain. The mob never really believed that Rob owned the Newel. They rejoiced because they thought that they had caught Rob in a devious lie claiming that he owned the Newel, all part of his plan. He was entertained by getting people all worked up. He did not care if he lied.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Mickeycrimm, you can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better.

The facts are:

Singers outrageous claims and 20 plays year troll of the AP community has come to an end.

His final acts, final cards to play were
1) Taking pictures of himself inside an RV at the dealership, pretending it was his.
2) Posting a phony bill of sale, printed out from the internet for a company that was bankrupt and closed at the time.
3) Sneaking up on the side of a Newell RV at an RV Park (that did not match the Newell in #1) pretending that was his.
4) Posting a phony ad in RV trader of an RV that did not exist, only to announce the sale a day later to someone from Israel who bought the RV sight unseen.

Each attempt grew weaker and more desperate to the point that even forum owner Dan Druff, who provided the platform for this ongoing troll and allowed Singer back to the forum that he was banned, Even Dan Druff who enjoys this kind of drama and shenanigans, had to weigh in that this "hoax" was over.

You will say that Dan Druff is just one opinion, no different than anyone else. Not so. In this case Druff represented the voice of reality. It would have probably been better for Druff, forum traffic-wise to not say anything and let the drama continue. But there comes a time when reality takes hold, when enough is enough, so he said what everyone, including you already know, that everything about Singer and his claims were a long running hoax.

Singer made a feeble attempt to fight back, calling Druff a loser, and broke California Flake, but that amounted to Saddam Hussein yelling "death to America" as he was pulled from his hole in the ground, like a dog. And then after one feeble attempt, Singer, knowing the game was over disappeared, leaving you, embarrassed and unable to admit you were wrong to fight on for him. I mean just think about that. Singer ran for the hills like a coward General, while asking you to fight on. Tell me again who the sucker is?

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TL;DR

You're a broken record player full of fantastical bullshit. You, along with Penn and redietz should be shunned in the AP world. You are no one we want to be associated with. Start your own fucking forum for losers.

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Well, it's not beyond comprehension.

You have one dude who has maintained a 30-year fictitious storyline about his gambling history and overall life arc. Another dude, also with a 30-year storyline about his gambling history and life arc, becomes friends with him. Presumably they might tell each other some truths.

Person A is on the verge of having the storyline go up in flames. Person B gets nervous. Figure it out.

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You are the one that is nervous, maggot. You're shaking like a leaf. How are you coming along with your claim that you use your real name on VCT? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You should talk to Druff about that. I'm sure he will change it to your real name. But we all know you are a gutless wonder.

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Sorry, mickey, I realize now that the lack of periods threw you. For the record, it's R.E. Dietz.

I thought linking to my blog several times, where it says "Bob Dietz's Integrity Sports" in oversized letters might be a clue that's my name, but I realize Bob and Robert have different initials, so that's probably why mickey feels I'm "gutless." I need to spell out that the R. in R.E. is for Robert, and Bob and Robert are kind of the same. My bad, mickey, I'll do better.

Not entirely sure why mickey thinks I'm being gutless. I'm sure he has my address, 1412 Forrest Dale Lane. I remember that because when mickey and I were on better terms, he explained to me that the seemingly aberrant spelling of "Forrest" was likely for a local Confederate general. I appreciated his ability to explain that. People think I'm butchering simple spelling when I use the official "Forrest" spelling. Being a former school spelling champ and all, I'm annoyed that people think I can't spell "Forest."

I'm sure now that I've gotten everyone up to speed, full-of-guts mickey crimm will come clean about his actual name and actual address.

Or not. LOL.

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No one knew any of that for years, comrade. And I just watched a documentary on your precious Karl Marx. He lived most of his life dependent on others to pay his bills. No wonder the asshole had 101 reasons for living off of someone else's productivity. Who the fuck do you live off of?

Oh My God! Please, please don't SHUN ME IN THE AP WORLD! NOT THAT!

Blessed Virgin Mother, NOT THAT! ANYTHING BUT THAT!


So, mickey, where do I find this AP world? Do I take a right at Ellis Island and walk 400 paces to the Orleans shuttle? Or is it down into the drainage tunnels and hang a left in the Imperial Palace parking garage?

Wait, I have to get back into character...

NOT THAT!! Not THE SHUNNING!?! HAVE MERCY, gentle brother in gambling!

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I know nothing of him or his affairs. :)

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Well I do. :cool: And I can tell you most of what he claimed about himself was made up. Not just the RV and double up bug and progressive system win, but most of his life, down to employment and education.

About the only thing Singer claimed that was true is that he has remained married for a long time. I mean even his kids....he has kids that have been successful and now support him. Most parents would be thrilled at having kids more successful than them. Isn't that every parents dream? But Singer, no, he couldn't do that. He tried to take credit with his phony tales of buying them house, when the fact is they bought their own homes and now support him.

It is funny, for all the attacks from Singer of various people living in their mothers basement, it is Singer who lives, I don't know if it is in the basement, but in his children's houses with them supporting him. How many times did Singer tell the lie that I had a "sugardaddy". I didn't have a sugardaddy, I had a partner, spouse and best friend. But turns out Singer has....I guess ..."sugar kids" that support him. And now he fears those very kids that support him may learn of his exploits and illness, including the things he said about them and their spouses....and might be pissed. So he has slinked away hoping this dies.

By the way, this is known as "projecting". When these trolls use some kind of put down to others, it is almost always from their own experiences. Anyone remember Singer attacking someone (maybe Mickey) about standing outside the grocery store selling their monthly food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar so they had money to go gamble? Do you think he pulled that from the blue. I mean guess who was thrown off the food stamp program for abuse in real life?

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I never seen any evidence of food stamp fraud. I was looking well before you. This is what I'm talking about you making shit up to back your narrative. Put some fucking proof up, buffoon. It was me that told about people standing outside the check cashing joints in Vegas buying food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar. You turned that into Singer standing in front of stores. That is how fucked up you are.

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Typical and expected response from the Man Servant Mickey 10x. You can't explain yourself because your just talking out your ass. So now you just say to fuck off. Then you console yourself with the thought that you gave it back 10x....lol....

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How does it feel that everyone now knows you are a lowlife maggot....and KJochio's bitch?

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"Maggot"....lol.... That must be one of your 11x multipliers......
How far down did you have to dig into your vitriolic hobo bag of tricks to come up with that one?,,,, pathetic

You still haven't explained how I am out to harm someone.

All you have done is fling poop like a caged monkey. You like truth. That's the truth.

Now run along,,,,, Singer is calling for you Man Servant Crimm. He needs the front 9 serviced.

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You don't have any reputation left to defend here. Time for you to go suck KJochio's cock again like the good little bitch servant you are, maggot.

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Kewlj must have repeated everything he believes Rob did 50 times in the last 20 pages of this thread. It's getting played out Kewlj.

Now repeat after me .... The Coward is just a Coward. His entire story is bullshit. He has nothing. Close this fucking thread. I don't think I could stomach another history review of Rob from Kewlj.

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Hold on blackhole, wait a minute we still have not heard about Rob Singer's adolescent years from KJ's perspective. All of this will help, sort of like a group therapy session.

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I know you are a little slow so I will explain. The mob never really believed that Rob owned the Newel. They rejoiced because they thought that they had caught Rob in a devious lie claiming that he owned the Newel, all part of his plan. He was entertained by getting people all worked up. He did not care if he lied.

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The Three Evil Stooges, KJochio, penn and redietz, are to stupid to know they got played. They are all jumping up and down like Tom Sawyer's stooges, revelling in their glory of finally catching Singer in a whopper. And they've ruined their reputations in their thinking they've "taken Singer down" maniacism.

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Oh My God! Please, please don't SHUN ME IN THE AP WORLD! NOT THAT!

Blessed Virgin Mother, NOT THAT! ANYTHING BUT THAT!


So, mickey, where do I find this AP world? Do I take a right at Ellis Island and walk 400 paces to the Orleans shuttle? Or is it down into the drainage tunnels and hang a left in the Imperial Palace parking garage?

Wait, I have to get back into character...

NOT THAT!! Not THE SHUNNING!?! HAVE MERCY, gentle brother in gambling!

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WTF do you think the gambling sites are that you hang out on? And you couldn't pick your own mother out of nine chinamen. Thats why you never put a pick up before game time. No one is fooled by your "I had this pick and that pick" after the fact, idiot.

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Typical and expected response from the Man Servant Mickey 10x. You can't explain yourself because your just talking out your ass. So now you just say to fuck off. Then you console yourself with the thought that you gave it back 10x....lol....

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How does it feel that everyone now knows you are a lowlife maggot....and KJochio's bitch?

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You still haven't explained how I am out to harm someone.

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Because you turned into some sort of mad weatherman. Always warning Singer of huge storms coming. If someone did not know better the way that you worded everything could be easily misinterpreted as a form of blackmail, instead of only being a sick mind at work.

If I "got played" and Rob got exactly what he wanted, attention, not caring that he proved to the world that he is a liar, loser, degenerate gambler, then what does that say about MickeyCrimm, who fought the same fight for a decade, before deciding to joining the decades old Singer troll of the AP community.

Mickey was actually on the winning side of the argument for I don't know a decade, before deciding to switch to Rob stooge just in time to lose. Losers are drawn to losing. Mickey is a loser, only because he can't admit the truth and that he was wrong, that he got played, and is the mark of a small insecure person.

Now BoSox, of late you are just proving what an idiot and fool you are. Not long ago, I said how I like you, even though we sometimes disagree. And I do like you, but you are off your rocker. (maybe litterally)

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Oh My God! Please, please don't SHUN ME IN THE AP WORLD! NOT THAT!

Blessed Virgin Mother, NOT THAT! ANYTHING BUT THAT!


So, mickey, where do I find this AP world? Do I take a right at Ellis Island and walk 400 paces to the Orleans shuttle? Or is it down into the drainage tunnels and hang a left in the Imperial Palace parking garage?

Wait, I have to get back into character...

NOT THAT!! Not THE SHUNNING!?! HAVE MERCY, gentle brother in gambling!

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WTF do you think the gambling sites are that you hang out on? And you couldn't pick your own mother out of nine chinamen. Thats why you never put a pick up before game time. No one is fooled by your "I had this pick and that pick" after the fact, idiot.

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That must be it, mickey. I be foolin' them for 40 years. Just like I pulled the wool over that thar Billy Walters guy. Hired me 'cause I pulled the wool all over him. And those Wise Guys records, I can't take credit for those public records. Thas just me throwin' darts while on hallucinogenics. Worked for Hunter Thompson, works for me.

And mickey, if this is the "AP World," I got news for you. Anybody wanting to learn how to gamble is better off buying some books.

The guys that run these two forums, this one and WoV, where the interview and much of Singers 20+ year troll took place, tell you he is trolling. Trolling the AP community. Both these forum owners have information, locations and such that most do not. They also are 2 pretty experienced guys when it comes to trolls.

Yet Mickey and BoSox, both AP's choose to join the long running troll of the AP community, showing that while both are AP's they care more about trolling than the AP community. And then mickeycrimm has the shriveled up balls to say some of the rest of us should be shunned by the AP community. You guys chose to join THE long running troll of the AP community and refuse to quit even when having been proven wrong.

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If I "got played" and Rob got exactly what he wanted, attention, not caring that he proved to the world that he is a liar, loser, degenerate gambler, then what does that say about MickeyCrimm, who fought the same fight for a decade, before deciding to joining the decades old Singer troll of the AP community.

Mickey was actually on the winning side of the argument for I don't know a decade, before deciding to switch to Rob stooge just in time to lose. Losers are drawn to losing. Mickey is a loser, only because he can't admit the truth and that he was wrong, that he got played, and is the mark of a small insecure person.

Now BoSox, of late you are just proving what an idiot and fool you are. Not long ago, I said how I like you, even though we sometimes disagree. And I do like you, but you are off your rocker. (maybe litterally)

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KewlJ, why do you always have a reading comprehension problem? I do not know how many times mickeycrimm has told you that he only supports what he thinks is the truth or the correct side of an issue. You keep saying that mickey joined up with Singer. Why are you so pigheaded?

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KewlJ, why do you always have a reading comprehension problem? I do not know how many times mickeycrimm has told you that he only supports what he thinks is the truth or the correct side of an issue. You keep saying that mickey joined up with Singer. Why are you so pigheaded?

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One of us definitely has a reading comprehension problem BoSox, if you think what you just wrote is true, which I suspect you don't. The things mickey has been saying including just 6 posts above, are not about the truth.

If mickey's comments were about truth, how could his position on just about everything Singer have chanced overnight. He has argued one position for a decade or more and the opposite position for the past couple years. Did the truth some how magically change?

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Yet Mickey and BoSox, both AP's choose to join the long running troll of the AP community, showing that while both are AP's they care more about trolling than the AP community. And then mickeycrimm has the shriveled up balls to say some of the rest of us should be shunned by the AP community. You guys chose to join THE long running troll of the AP community and refuse to quit even when having been proven wrong.

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Apparently now I joined a troll and care more about trolling than the AP community. Mickeycrimm is right about all your fabrications.

Just for a matter of point if any member of the site was told that an outside report about their private life was going to be revealed on a specific day or whatever on this site I would be there fighting against the move. To which I do not consider that as joining an alignment by any means.