I don't see what one year's 1040 proves. Just hook him up to a polygraph and ask him 50 times if he's ahead at video poker lifetime.
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I don't see what one year's 1040 proves. Just hook him up to a polygraph and ask him 50 times if he's ahead at video poker lifetime.
I never received it. I don't have time right now to check our forum archives but it's all there.
Regarding claims of gambling winnings...Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
it's not appropriate to suggest someone else take a polygraph, without offering to take one yourself.
Have you agreed to take a polygraph?
Should you be considered a liar until you submit to a polygraph?
No need to check the archives, your recollection will suffice...did he claim to have mailed it to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
The archives are there for you to check. Why are you asking Alan to remember something that happened a couple of years ago. Man up.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
If I recall correctly: He said he told the IRS not to send them after first telling the IRS to send them.
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Originally Posted by arcimede$
So...did Rob Singer tell a lie in this matter ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Is arcimede$ lying about Rob...that Rod claimed to have mailed you the form?
Yes, that is right and it demonstrates clearly he was lying. You fill out a form and send it to the IRS. They then send the documents back to you. Singer would then be required to mail them to Alan. There is no recalling items once they have been mailed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Well, to be honest, coach belly, in the very first national ad I ever ran, yes, I volunteered to take a polygraph. That was back in 1979 in GamePlan Magazine. My former website, which can be dragged up via the time machine archives of the internet, has me offering to do the same in every incarnation.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
I'm sure you had a point to your question. What exactly was it?
Much of this is unclear to me, but I've only been reading for 9 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
What documents do you mean, and why was Singer required to mail them to Alan?Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
What items were mailed, who mailed them, and who were they mailed to?Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
Before you suggest that Rob Singer take a polygraph to prove whether or not he is lying about his gambling winnings,Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
you should first take a polygraph to prove whether or not you are lying about your winnings. Fair enough...right?
My question was
Have you submitted to the polygraph?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Send a link to your website, shouldn't be too hard to find, you probably have it bookmarked.
If I recall, the plan was for Rob to instruct the IRS to mail the returns to me as his agent or representative. When Rob said he notified the IRS not to send the forms, we questioned whether he really told the IRS to send them in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
You can't "ask" the IRS to send tax returns to anyone. You have to fill out form 4506. Then you can specify a 3rd party, but I know of no way to stop the process once it is initiated. There is no "recall form 4506" form. You have to send a check ($50) for each form requested as well, so why would he stop the process when he could not get his money back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
http://www.justanswer.com/tax/77w9k-...html#re.v/417/Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
"If the transcript processing has been started - it is automatic and may not be terminated.
You may however contact the IRS directly and ask to terminate the request. If processing was not started - the agent will terminate the request - but you need to act quickly."
I don't dispute what you wrote here. When I said "ask" I meant that he must have filed the appropriate forms to have the returns sent to me as his representative. If I recall, we also discussed that the tax returns could be sent to me directly as a "representative" which would assure that no one altered their returns prior to sending them to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
Rather than making it all up and have arci interject with more of his lies, I'll recount it for you without any spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Arci challenged me to provide you past tax returns, not just 1040's. I accepted, as lond as arci accepted and wasn't doing his usual BS. He accepted so I immediately got the correct form, filled it out so that Alan would receive it and mailed it in, then let the forum know. Of course, just as he planned on doing because he would NEVER let anyone here see his returns since I've already seen a few of his and "Deb's" returns and they ain't what he portrays, his plan all along was to make a claim that I really didn't send the form in, just so he could safely run for the hills again as he's always done.
Eventually, arci wouldn't submit the form, Alan then helped him weasel out of his challenge by saying "it's all about your returns Rob since you make the most outrageous claims", so I got the form request stopped but not after having to forfeit a portion of the fee. And yes, there is a way to kill the form request. It's called going to your son-in-law.
When you want the truth, come to me. If you want more made up "facts" then call arci. Of course, if he's not home then you'll get no one. My wife's home if I'm out doing errands. :)
And how did Rob surrepticiously get a look at arci and his wife's returns? Probably through his son-in-law who works for the IRS. Alan, is it legal for an IRS employee to secretly show someone's return to a private citizen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Actually, it is not only not acceptable to show anyone a personal IRS form, it would mean immediate termination. This is why you know Singer is lying yet again.
Fact is, I still have the form ready to go. All I need is for Alan to verify he received Singer's tax return and I would send him mine. That was the arrangement until Alan said he didn't want to be be involved.
Yes we know Singer is lying because an IRS agent would never do something that's "not acceptable"... even as a favor to his father-in-law...even if he knew he would never get caught. That could never happen...is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
So man up and modify the arrangement and send yours first. What's the big deal, why does Rob's have to be received first?Quote:
Originally Posted by arcimede$
Once Alan receives yours, then Rob will either send his or eat crow.
That's what you want anyway isn't it...your pound of flesh?
Belly, man up and tell Rob to live up to his agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly