The door closed too damn fast. I don't see any countervailing argument.
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The door closed too damn fast. I don't see any countervailing argument.
And after my injury they adjusted the door to close slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I was told that these doors need maintenance to keep the best closing speed. The door closing device loses "gas" over time and if not maintained the door will shut quickly and will seem heavier and have more force. There is a product liability and negligence question. If only I was still on the TV news doing investigations....
Another week has gone by and nothing from Caesars. Not even an offer to pay for my medical bills-- which they have received. Remember -- I had to complain to my host about getting a replacement jacket because the casino is too cold in the craps pit. Obviously they don't care about the days of work I missed when I was getting treatment for the initial injury and then the secondary infection that set in. Frankly this surprises me. When I got the letter from them I thought it signaled they would quickly settle the case by paying for the real costs I had. I guess they just don't want to part with their last two dimes that are rubbing together to create heat for the casino.
I'm very surprised. Although I despise CET in general, I thought they'd do the prudent thing, which is to pay your bills quickly and apologize out the wazoo in perpetuity. They know who you are -- you should be a priority.
But never let it be said CET did the prudent thing. Their entire modus operandi has been anything but prudent.
Hi Alan:
I too am surprised that CET is not responding quickly to reimburse you actual costs. That said, I believe CET has a liability insurance policy for bodily injuries and your claim may be working through the insurance adjusters. Also since you not fully healed, you really should wait until all your expenses are done before you work out any settlement.
FAB
The manager of the claims department who was reviewing my case is now NOT responding to my lawyer's email or phone calls. There isn't even an acknowledgement that my lawyer's emails or phone messages are being received, or that they have received the medical reports that were requested. I'm sure they are hoping we are going to go away. Instead, it may end with litigation.
I'm surprised. This is a real pain in the ass.
Should we be surprised by a company trying to run out on billions of dollars of debt? And won't even give its players games with a decent chance to win?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Later today my attorney will demand that Caesars tell us if they accept liability. I was told that under the law they can't drag their feet forever. If they do not accept liability it clears the way for a lawsuit. Several weeks ago the case manager told my attorney she was waiting for a report from Caesars. That was the last we heard. They can't stall forever. In the meantime the door was adjusted and I have the videos. It's time for Caesars to show their cards.
Just heard from my attorney: Caesars says they are not at fault. They won't pay anything. They said sue.
It costs them more in your loss of business then what it would have cost them to reimburse you for your injuries.
I updated the report: http://alanbestbuys.com/id418.html to include information from Caesars that they said they are not responsible and not liable and will pay nothing for the medical treatments, doctor visits, tetanus shot, two rounds of prescribed antibiotics, plus over the counter medicines to help heal and prevent infection. New photos include injury the day after, a couple of days later, and then 13 days later when the wound reopened.
What regnis said. Evidently CET is so far gone, they have no concern for the value of good will or bad publicity.
They surprised me. I thought they'd have a little sense.
I felt like checking in to see how this particular incident was progressing, and it appears some simple common sense is in demand on this one. There is nothing else worth reading or worthy of replying to any longer in any of the other threads--and participation shows it.
regnis, while your most recent post above sort of makes sense in the theoretical world, in reality there is NO WAY Alan will EVER stop going to C.P. in this lifetime. Everyone knows why. And I do expect he'll waste even more time and money on this and sue, even though he'll lose in every way possible.
The prudent way to have handled this would have been to feel CET out initially, and if they gave ANY sense of non-responsibility then you should just walk away--letting your own health insurance take care of it while paying any co-pays and/or deductibles. Why make things complicated by getting an attorney involved with the hope and dreams of a big payday that you know will never happen? This country has huge faults with people being so sue-crazy. This is something Dan would do, not you, and he'd make his life and the lives around him suffer regardless if he could rope them into an argument over money. You had an accident and from what I've read it sounds like you weren't really paying proper attention at the time. It happens to all of us, only this time you got injured.
Let it go.
Rob if you go back in this thread you will read:
1. Caesars sent me a claim letter. I did not file a claim.
2. I referred Caesars' claim letter to my attorney.
3. My attorney provided Caesars with information about the medical injuries and treatments including the secondary infection.
4. We never asked for any money.
5. Caesars said simply they are not liable and if we want any money we'd have to sue.
6. Caesars' risk management dept didn't even offer to replace my Caesars windbreaker (bought at their gift shop) which was covered with blood. If not for my host who knows I wear a windbreaker in the casino because of the cold AC, I never would have gotten a replacement for the $50 jacket. My host comped it.
7. My insurance did pay and I did get the treatment.
8. I lost three days of work, including two days because of the painful secondary skin infection which covered a large portion of my body.
9. This past Thursday I was shooting a new video for an advertiser and I was pointing to a product and Jason asked me to switch hands because of the marks on my hand were unsightly in the video.
10. It's a good thing I didn't give security at Caesars my Tommy Bahama shoes which were also covered with blood because the same way they didn't replace my jacket, they wouldn't have replaced my shoes either.
I never expected a windfall. But they could have said they'd pick up the costs that weren't covered by my health insurance. By the way, the three days of work that I lost as valued by my SAG-AFTRA union contract were significant. I don't know how to value the pain and discomfort of the skin infection that came from the secondary infection from the injury.
The whole thing is unfortunate, that's for sure. Getting a free jacket makes sense and maybe comping you for something you've not been comped for in the past if that's even possible, or throwing you a grand in free play might make sense too, as a way of showing their concern for a loyal customer who experienced something negative while on their property. But it seems that if they covered any of the medical expenses or the like, then they'd be admitting culpability which is obviously not where they want to go with this.
I'd cut up my card and mail it to management with a host of strong words. I'd ask for others who support you on this to do exactly the same. (Boy wouldn't that be the way to see who's lip service and who's not.) C.E.T. is not the end-all in gaming....everyone should know that. Just the fact that they aren't offering up anything special to you speaks volumes to what they think of you. Give them a taste of their own dead fish.
First off, Rob is once again spouting off bullshit:
Wrong. I was injured TWICE at Caesars properties in the past 7 years, and neither time did I ask for anything. The injury in 2009 was a very large cut on my hand which took hours to stop bleeding (I never had a cut like that in my life), and technically it was the fault of an employee, but it was an accident, and I figured it would just heal and I'd get over it. When I asked security for a bandage, they kept asking me to file a report, and I said that I just wanted the bandage and didn't want to file anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
But back to Alan.
I admit that I am somewhat surprised that Caesars is dismissing all liability. I thought they would offer you something in the $2000 neighborhood, in exchange for a signed statement that you are waiving your right to future claims over the matter, while the document would also make it clear they are not admitting fault.
I think referring it to your attorney was the mistake here. I realize that you never filed any lawsuits and never demanded money, but once an attorney gets involved, they get concerned that you're going for a major money grab, and they suddenly take a hard line stance.
If I were you, I would have dealt directly with Risk Management, stated what you were looking for, and then stated reasonable and low-dollar demands.
For example, you could have demanded payment of your medical co-pays, a replacement jacket, replacement shoes, and maybe $1000 on top of it for the pain and suffering. You also could have thrown in the veiled threat that you feel you would have an actionable lawsuit here, but you just want your medial bills paid and a token sum above that for what you went through. You also could have offered to sign a document waiving further liability if they agreed. This comes off much less threatening to Risk Management, and in fact they might believe they're getting off cheap.
I think your approach was too ambiguous and open-ended. You had an attorney, you wanted them to admit liability, and they knew that once they admitted it, you would be in the driver's seat as far as hitting them for big bucks.
As I've stated before, my one encounter with Caesars Risk Management was related to damage to my car in their lot, which was directly caused by their employees' negligence. However, I was very up front and direct with what I wanted (for them to cover the repair of approximately $650). After some initial half-hearted pushback, they agreed, and cut me the check.
So what is the next move?
Are you going to still play at Caesars?
Are you going to try to get your host to assert some influence on corporate regarding this?
Are you going to sue?
I wrote a letter to Caesars Palace:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I am hoping that you will forward this to Gary Selesner, President of Caesars Palace.
My name is Alan Mendelson and I have been a good customer of Caesars Palace for nearly 20 years. Ever since Caesars became part of Total Rewards I have been a Seven Stars player. I was even married at a craps table at Caesars in a special wedding ceremony that management arranged for me.
On Friday, June 24, 2016 I was injured by a glass door as I entered the VIP entrance in the Augustus Tower. Caesars Palace security was immediately notified and a Caesars medical technician provided first aid which included bandaging a laceration on my right hand. There was a lot of blood from the injury since skin from my hand was peeled away. A written accident report was filed with Caesars Security.
There was a large amount of blood that covered the pocket area of a Caesars jacket that I purchased in the gift shop; there was blood on my blue jeans and on my shoes. I made several requests to your risk management department to replace the jacket because I usually wear a light jacket in the casino because of the air conditioning. The risk management department never responded to three separate requests, but my host comped a replacement jacket from your gift shop which cost about $50.
I never threatened a lawsuit over the injury. I just wanted to enjoy my weekend there. I enjoy about two dozen or more trips to Caesars Palace every year.
When I returned from the trip, I had a doctor check the wound because there was pain and swelling and discoloration and it was still bleeding. My doctor gave my a tetanus shot, prescribed a strong antibiotic for me (Cipro) and put me on a regimen of changing the bandage with topical antibiotics. It took several weeks for the wound to heal in part because it was difficult for the flap of skin to heal. There was considerable bruising.
About two weeks following the injury I received a letter from a company which says it represents your insurance interests. The letter came from Brad Schuler a claim representative with CCMSI, the company that represents you.
The letter advised me of my rights and gave me a claim number which was (deleted). I have been a TV news Consumer News Reporter and I always advise my TV viewers to consult an attorney when they receive official documents such as this. I forwarded the letter from CCMSI to my attorney, Robert Koenig. Mr. Koenig provided information concerning my medical expenses and a report about the treatment and subsequent infections that set in to CCMSI.
Unfortunately, Mr. Schuler, the claim representative assigned to my case, went on vacation. After a period of time of not hearing anything from CCMSI, my attorney, Mr. Koenig, was able to make contact with Mara Schwebel who is a supervisor at CCMSI.
My attorney Mr. Koenig sent to Ms. Schwebel various medical reports, bills and receipts, health insurance statements showing billing and the amounts paid by my health plan, and records showing the injury and treatment and subsequent secondary infection. Mr. Koenig also provided to Ms. Schwebel photos of the injury, photos of the blood on my jacket (which Caesars Security kept in a sealed bag because of the fear of contamination), and videos showing that the door at the Augustus entrance closed too fast to allow anyone to enter in a reasonable amount of time without being hit by the door and its beveled glass edge.
We never asked for any specific amount of monetary damages. All during the process we hoped that Caesars would make a good faith offer recognizing that I was indeed injured through no fault of my own, that the injury was not minor, that the injury required subsequent medical treatments, and that there were real costs involved that I had to pay for, and there was pain and discomfort from the initial injury and the subsequent infections.
I should also add that I am a recipient of a kidney and pancreas transplant, and I am susceptible to serious complications from infections and I needed the treatments prescribed to me by my doctors both at the Urgent Care Center where I had the initial treatment and from the medical staff at the St. Vincent Medical Center in Los Angeles where I had my transplants eight years ago.
However, after we provided that medical and insurance information to Mara Schwebel her only response was that there was no liability on the part of Caesars Palace and if we wanted any money for damages or medical payments we would have to sue to get it.
Is this how you treat your long time customers? Is this how you treat your hotel guests? Is this how you treat your loyal Seven Stars players?
Never did anyone say "we're sorry that you were injured." Never did anyone say to me "is there something we can do for you because of your injury?" Never was there a follow-up with anyone asking "is the wound healing properly?" It was as if you didn't want to even acknowledge that I was hurt on your property.
The day after I was injured I shot a video of the door showing how quickly and abruptly it closed. About two weeks later I returned to Caesars Palace and found that the door no longer closed as quickly or abruptly. I posted on my TV show website www.alanbestbuys.com that I was glad to see that the door no longer closed so quickly and there is more time for people to enter -- including hotel guests who might be with small children, or using a walker, or wouldn't be prepared for the door glass catching their hand or hitting their body.
I returned to Caesars Palace, stayed there, and continued to play there and stayed and played several times since the injury. I even attended the 50th Anniversary Gala and I have plans to visit Caesars again.
I did not manufacture or create this injury to bilk Caesars Palace. I had a real injury. I suffered pain and discomfort, and from the subsequent infection I lost several days of work as a skin infection spread over large parts of my body. I did not threaten to sue Caesars Palace for huge amounts of money. My intentions were honorable and I was hoping for some just compensation and consideration for the injury. Instead, I got a claims supervisor who said "sue."
Really? Do I have to sue? Again, is this how you treat loyal customers, hotel guests and Seven Star members who have been coming to stay and play at Caesars for nearly 20 years?
Alan Mendelson
TR # (deleted)
Phone (deleted)
Email (deleted)
If that letter doesn't get the job done, I will be shocked.
The lesson I learned was just how much casinos really care and if a valuable customer like Alan is shown this treatment, then how nonexistent small time players like me are. It used to be fun and games for me, but now I wanna take them for every cent! Hope you heal quickly, Alan. I got a glimpse of the real world.
hey alan, its possible someone else got hurt by that door and accepting liability in your case exposes them for other situations ?? maybe another person isn't being so 'nice' about it ?
It's a well written comprehensive letter. It sounds like you're asking them to reimburse expenses, which is reasonable. But you're also asking them to pump in some sort of "pain & suffering" amount, which that gal already called you on. If you're serious about that portion then I believe you should have given them a figure to counter-offer.
You also showed your hand by saying you went back and will keep going back--regardless how this turns out I guess. Your honesty ranks high but your strength meter took a hit on this one. I imagine if you sue then they won't let you back in.
Dan, you're so full of it and transparent. You claim you're never out looking for a conflict in order to argue over ten bucks, then you go to great rambling lengths to detail several incidents in which you did just that. Have you not EVER figured out that 90% of your posts complains about how you've been "done wrong" or how slipping you a few bucks here and a few bucks there would make the issues all go away?
Life isn't all about gaming the system, regardless how much you lose gambling.
I think its terrible how you've been treated.
Your approach to this has been entirely reasonable from the get go. That letter is excellent, but the fact that it's gotten to the point that you had to write it is ridiculous.
You'd think that that reasonableness would have been appreciated, given your long standing customer relationship with them, the fact that you are a public person given your career, and the fact that for someone that's a little older (not a 20-something staggering through that door drunk) who has SERIOUS health concerns that can manifest with infection due to your organ transplants. Plus now you have scars that you have to be mindful of when making your videos which are a part of your livelihood that allows you the income to be a Seven Stars.
I realize that you said that you would still go there regardless, but I have trouble understanding that because I would have a hard time detaching from this incident and their handling of it to continue to enjoy it the same way.
I do hope that your healing continues and that the scarring fades.
I actually understand Alan's fondness for Caesars Palace itself, separate from CET and CET personnel as its governing body. I feel like I have a relationship with the building and its history, regardless of my disdain for CET.
I'd hate to give up that history with the place, but what Alan has experienced would leave me with a real sour taste and disgust me enough that setting foot in there would be a source of aggravation.
At this point I don't know if the decision came only from CCMSI or if Caesars management was also involved. This is why I wrote the letter to Caesars. I certainly don't have any issues with the casino at Caesars Palace.
As I understand the situation CCMSI is an outside vendor representing Caesars which is self-insured.
100% the decision came from CCMSI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
So a letter to Caesars corporate is smart at this point.
Good letter, but I would have left out the part saying that you're coming back regardless. Your biggest bargaining chip is you years-long action.
Alan,
Please be very careful of what you post on this site and your blog. You are opening yourself up for some liability if you accidentally post something inaccurate.
Most attorneys would advise you not to post at all about this until it is resolved.
Personally, I find it interesting and appreciate it.
After 40+ years in the news and media business I'm pretty confident about what I broadcast and publish. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRich
Alan didn't write anything which could get him sued or harm his case.
He stated facts that are either accepted by both parties (he got hurt by the door, there was blood everywhere, etc) or easily provable (the door was adjusted after his injury).
The rep from CCMSI has already disputed that any changes or adjustments were made to the door -- despite my videos. Now you will understand why I repeated the opening and closing of the door so many times in both videos. I will let the videos with the repetitive openings and closings speak for themselves, including the shots in the second video showing the "pause" in the closing action which was not seen in the first video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
From what I've seen, you not only have to prove that they knew about the door problem but that they also neglected to fix it. I'm certain any ambulance chasing lawyer will tell you the same thing. Not saying you did, but Caesars could counter that you caused this injury on purpose.
Wow are you wrong jbjb. You're certainly no lawyer. Check the rules on remedial measures and evidence.
Whatever battle you're waging here vs. CET, it seems like an uphill battle that will go all the way to the clouds. You're being honest, you're a great & loyal long-time customer, you've got a clean record, and you're a good person. CET otoh is a troubled outfit dealing with a mountain of problems with big shot lawyers and constantly fighting to recover & maintain whatever positive image they believe they once had. It's almost unbelievable that they don't do the sensible things.
But we're in a new day and age with a new breed of big-ticket corporations, important personalities, and how they all deal with and escape accountability for the negative issues which seem to surface all too often these days. For instance, it's very VERY clear that Hillary Clinton could actually walk up behind some innocent breastfeeding mother and shoot her dead ON FILM, yet the media & her supporters will simply just look the other way as if it didn't happen, denying then deflecting any questions about it and calling anyone who dares ask, a women-hating pig.
This is the culture you are up against.
Just got a call from Caesars. I won't mention the caller's name but the caller was in dismay over how this was handled and said of the risk management people and CCMSI "they escalated it" and I got a few "wows."
As could Donald J. Trump. But you better get prepared for it because one of them is going to be our next president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Then you haven't been paying attention over the past 9 months. Every little thing Trump says or does that's even the smallest bit off the beaten path, he gets crucified for days on end in the media. NO ONE looks the other way when it comes to him. And if he had broken his Secret Clearance oath in his business if he needed one, whether thru "extreme carelessness" or because he was negligent? He'd never be allowed near a classified document again, and he'd never again be in the employ of any Government Agency. That includes disqualification from holding the office of the president.Quote:
Originally Posted by seemoreroyals
But I agree: whomever wins (and it looks like Hillary at this point, precisely because as dirty as she is, she's been shielded by Obama every step of the way)---then it will be 4 years of one big joke after another when we sit down to watch TV.
Can you clarify?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Are you saying that someone at corporate Caesars is possibly on your side here?
Hopefully, they realize this is not going away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Alan, I just looked through the thread. I can only imagine they are stonewalling out of a fear of liability. The lower level people are probably sympathetic, but the upper echelon is probably saying "no contact and admit nothing". You may not be looking for a payday, but there are many out there that are, and even more lawyers ready to drop a lawsuit. Until we have some sort of tort reform, this is the norm from big corporations. Even doing the right thing can have consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I related a story of a few years ago at Caesars when a wheel was broken off my luggage when delivered by the bellman. I won't rehash it, but each step of the way someone went out of their way to make me happy. They called me twice and I had a check in my hand for a new bag in a few weeks. There was no fear of a lawsuit or liability, they could afford to be nice.
Exactly what I've been saying, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
Same reason they coughed up the money for my vehicle damage in 2009. Again, there was no liability there beyond the $660 in damage to my parked car.
This is why I felt Alan shouldn't have gotten an attorney involved, but rather just approached them with a reasonable figure he was looking for, along with an offer to sign away further liability if they pay it.
They are probably concerned that admitting fault would open up a massive lawsuit, especially with Alan's various medical conditions which he could claim were worsened by this.
New development: I got a response from Caesars. The Caesars rep said they can't talk to me because I am represented by an attorney.
Since it was never my intention to sue Caesars, I immediately had my attorney email the rep to say they are no longer representing me and if they have something to say they should discuss it with me directly.
I also replied to the rep saying I am no longer being represented by an attorney and it's just between Caesars and me.
This all happened Thursday, August 25th around mid-day.
Let's see what happens now.
I know nothing and am curious to see how this works.
For example, just because your (previous) attorney sends them a letter stating he's not representing you doesn't mean you do not have an attorney. Just because you write a letter saying you do not have an attorney, is that considered "proof" if it's not notarized or something? Interesting stuff.
Regnis? Anyone have any idea?
In a reasonable world, CET would take your letter and proclamation as good faith truth and proceed to reimburse you. They're going, however, to make you sign a waiver of liability, I'm assuming.
That's probably not a good thing to do in case your injuries result in a recurring infection or a resistance to the antibiotics used.
I say this, and I should have sued a few years back (but did not) when a "Doc in the Box" prescribed an antibiotic that could have killed me (and really messed me up). But I was just happy to be upright after the experience.
Anyway, good luck.
Here is the actual exchange between me and the Caesars rep (comments in reverse order) and in this exchange you can see that the Caesars rep said he would speak with me if indeed I was no longer represented by an attorney:
[----] Please enter your reply below this line [----]
I asked Mr. Koenig to email you directly. Then let's get this wrapped up.
[----] Please enter your reply above this line [----]
Answer 08/25/2016 02:51 PM
Good Afternoon Mr. Mendelson:
Thank you for the quick response. If you could send a letter from your Attorney indicating he is no longer representing you, I would be more than happy to discuss this matter with you.
My email address is as follows:
-------@harrahs.com
Thank you Sir. I look forward to speaking with you once the letter is received.
H------------
Your Question 08/25/2016 01:47 PM
I am no longer represented by Mr. Koenig. I am happy to send you whatever you need to show that. Now, it's just between you (Caesars Palace) and me. Alan Mendelson
Prior Answer 08/25/2016 01:42 PM
Good Afternoon Mr. Mendelson:
I apologize for the delay with my response. Unfortunately, you are represented by Legal Counsel which negates me from speaking with your regarding your injury.
Kind Regards,
H------------
This is my first post here and I’m certain I’ll be bashed for my opinion. But, I’ve been following Alan’s thread (among other threads) here about his injury and actions and eventually became so repulsed by it, I actually had to join and respond to it.
It has to be obvious based on his consistent wagering habits Alan makes a serious amount of money working at his TV job. It should also be obvious that he is a degenerate compulsive gambler. I know no one likes that title and will deny it to their death, but if you want to talk facts let’s face the facts. Besides, as long as he could afford his type of gambling habits, all is good. The only problem is if the income ever stops the shit usually hits the fan being unable to enjoy gambling at a much lower level. Hitting 100K royals with quarters can’t happen and 1K royals will feel like tip money. This is when everything goes into a tail spin.
I believe Alan’s only intention with this injury was to get some free play money. A compulsive gambler doesn’t want to invest in legal fees that have a good chance of ending up just being a negative expense. Those wasted fees might have cost him two maybe three royals.
I don’t believe he hired a lawyer. He probably had one of the lawyers he knows from work do him a favor and just send a letter on his behalf to pretend he was lawyering up. Notice how fast he had the alleged lawyer send a letter saying he no longer represents him when he heard they were willing to talk but couldn’t cause of lawyer.
He used this forum and his TV forum as tools for them to follow all the pain and suffering he was forced to live through, and all the bad press he’s willing to give them for not taking care of one of their high rollers.
Sadly as smart as he is he gave up how much of a degenerate he actually is through this thread. Anyone that had a case and a lawyer certainly wouldn’t be on a forum discussing it, and certainly wouldn’t ever say that regardless of the outcome and in so many words, I’ll still be willing if this marriage don’t work out, to marry my next wife there also. (maybe this time in front of a poker machine)
I also think, Caesars now realizes he’s just about the gamble and could probably get him to sign something that would release them of any future claims for like 5 or 10K in free play, just to get this annoying flea off their backs.
Did I nail it Alan?
Alan, that is indeed good news. Here's hoping common sense wins out in the end.
Blackhole,
What exactly repulsed you about the thread? Have you ever opened those doors at Caesars? The rate at which the door closed was too fast. Those doors are heavy. They could mangle you much worse than Alan got if they catch you at the right angle and their pneumatics haven't been reloaded. I wince when I think of those doors slamming shut. They could really do some damage. That's on Caesars.
The asshole with the many aliases is back. Welcome back asshole. Or is it Alan's jealous "friend"?
What repulsed me about the thread?
Alan sounds like the type of guy if you hit his car in the back; he’ll open his door leaving the car in drive and fall out making sure his own car runs over his legs just to get some free money.
It’s people like this, Me, Myself and Alan who eventually make everyone else suffer. Serious negligent injury is one thing. Trying to make a cut sound like an eventual hand decapitation is pathetic. What’s even worse are all the people chiming in giving opinions on how to cautiously proceed.
My only guess is everyone here agrees with doing anything to get some gambling money refunded from the people who are banking their bets and are the ones who are actually taking it.
For example look at this foolish comment made by James40 “Alan, that is indeed good news. Here's hoping common sense wins out in the end.” Sounds like an annoying drunk cheering in the stands during a game.
Blackhole,
All the subjective values and personality stuff aside, if the pneumatics haven't been refreshed, those doors can take your head off.
I'm not arguing with your values; I'm just telling you that those doors could slice a child's arm off if the pneumatics fail.
No argument about your point. The argument is not what the doors could do, it's what the doors did do.
Nope, this sounds like the regular asshole coming back for another round.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
What's the over/under on number of posts before the asshole turns anti-semitic?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
james40 obviously can't have an adult conversation or except others opinions. His type of responses are obviously a sign of weakness and immaturity. Guys like this eventually will bring my mother into the conversation. There's just no telling where they'll end up. So far we got aliases, jealous friend, asshole, anti-semitic, already in just a matter of minutes.
You ran off before and you'll run off again. Why do you bring your mother into the conversation? Back to your rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
I was just responding to your nonsense. My mother sadly is dead, but what I meant by that comment is low IQ people which I could only assume you are, usually go to the sewer making comments like your mom has no idea who your dad is etc.etc. Similar to the Wizard of Nothing if you know who that fool is from other forums. (I think you do)
Of course your free to offer your priceless commentary, but don’t expect any more responses from me.
Stop derailing Alan's legal pursue here.
I figured it was you back for another round. Back to the cesspool with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
Blackhole is the "AP is a fraud" guy.
And if I recall correctly, I believe Alan only wanted the medical bills paid. I don't think he's running a con here.
He's been here before under other names, made a fool of himself and left with his tail between his legs. My guess is he's just trying to stir the pot again and will be gone when there's no traction from his idiotic comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Quote from Alan's letter. "I did not manufacture or create this injury to bilk Caesars Palace. I had a real injury. I suffered pain and discomfort, and from the subsequent infection I lost several days of work as a skin infection spread over large parts of my body. I did not threaten to sue Caesars Palace for huge amounts of money. My intentions were honorable and I was hoping for some just compensation and consideration for the injury. Instead, I got a claims supervisor who said "sue."
Really? Do I have to sue? Again, is this how you treat loyal customers, hotel guests and Seven Star members who have been coming to stay and play at Caesars for nearly 20 years?"
This quote above doesn’t sound like someone looking for a couple of doctor visits and prescriptions paid for. He lost several days of work, skin infections spreading over his body suffering from pain and discomfort. Then in the next sentence says he’s honorable and just wanted some compensation for all that.
Caesars lawyers can’t be dumb enough to offer anything without a release form. I’m certain any offer will be verbal and require a signature before moving forward with any settlement.
I know my opinion is against the majority here, but if you want to discuss matters like this in the public's eyes, then so be it.
So if someone rams their vehicle into yours and it puts you out of commission our in the hospital for a while, you won't want anything except your vehicle to be fixed?
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Originally Posted by jbjb
You said this not me.
Still an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
Sure. He also should be compensated for pain and suffering. My point is, I don't think he did this on purpose as you propose looking for a large payday.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
No one ever said he did this on purpose. Like I said in my first post “I believe Alan’s only intention with this injury was to get some free play money.”Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
He already knew a wound that could be covered with a small Band-Aid shown in the pictures on his site wasn’t going to get him any windfall. He played what did happen to the max. The videos of the fast door, the bloody jacket, the super close up of the cut, the blow by blow posts of the pain and suffering, etc.
He couldn’t get them to accept any liability from the very beginning. They wouldn’t even replace the jacket because of the accident, and only comped it like a meal.
Alan knows exactly what he’s doing and how to use the forums like bargaining chips when it comes to casinos. This is not his first rodeo.
Feel bad for the guy that rear ends his car.
Maybe it's just a good "AP" play on his part.
I personally subscribe to the James Grosjean model about casinos. They're vile places and deserve everything that happens to them.
I think Stephen King got it right when, at the end of The Stand, the place gets nuked.
Blackhole is in New Jersey.
I am not sure who it is, though there's a good chance I banned him at some point when we had that invasion of a bunch of guys from another forum.
If he isn't too disruptive/trolling here, he can stay.
It does look like I called it 100% correctly regarding the lawyer situation. I knew that was the wrong approach.
Alan, I would suggest asking for $2k + out of pocket medical expenses, in return for signing a waiver agreeing that you will not seek further damages over this matter, and that you acknowledge they are not admitting fault.
Decent chance they go for it at this point.
For the record, we didn't approach. As I wrote earlier... when I receive a legal-looking document I give it to my lawyer to handle. All we did was respond to the requests for information. We approached nothing and made no requests. We left it up to the third-party representative to tell us what they were going to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Their response was "we have no liability" and "sue."
My approach was my own letter.
But how did they know you had a lawyer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I really think if you approached with no lawyer and stated specifically what you were looking for (and a willingness to waive rights to pursue it beyond that), you might have gotten positive results.
1. We all know who Blackhole is.
2. There is nothing wrong with having a lawyer in this type of injury claim, and you are way off base if you think the presence of an attorney actually is a hindrance. Usually, an insurer or claim processor will not even take you seriously without an attorney, as they know they can walk all over you. It is only the threat of costly litigation and effective representation that will usually move the matter forward.
I made the mistake of trying to work with the insurance company (I am a lawyer but I do trusts and estates, not injury claims) when I was nearly killed while stopped at a stop sign. Neither of the other drivers had good insurance and I tried to work with my insurance company. I required surgery and 2 years of physical therapy. While they were paying for the medical they refused any loss of income or pain and suffering. Finally, I brought in an attorney that specialized in injury claims. We got it settled rather quickly. You need that threat to stop them from dragging their feet.
So actually, I think Alan made a mistake by dropping his attorney. Let the attorney correspond with the claims person and relay the info back to Alan. Nothing is gained by eliminating the attorney.
Traffic accidents are a different matter. There I agree an attorney can only help, and not hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by regnis
In this case, Alan was only looking for a small amount of money. Therefore, he should have kept it simple, made his demands, and seen where he could get. He could always bring the attorney into the situation if that were to fail.
CET and their third party insurance claims firm are likely afraid to admit to anything right now, for fear that he could potentially bring a big lawsuit against them.
Whatever you get Alan, it had better be quick. An $11 billion dollar hole just opened in the budget. Wonder what the paytables will look like now?
I started another thread about the bankruptcy judge's decision. I think this means the break up of the Caesars empire.Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
Remember that thread about the value of Total Rewards? We might soon find out.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
It’s obvious your friends with Alan and I understand and respect your defense for him. Yet, suggesting my posts are disruptive / trolling when instead are my actual feelings and opinions open for debate is creative to say the least.
You never banned me before and I’m much too old to be joining any childish group of guys from another forum to invade yours.
I gambled all of my adult life and being retired still do but not as much. I visit many gambling forums and join some if I want to respond and always shot from the hip.
I’ve been banned twice from the WOV, in fact just reinstated yesterday simply for calling things the way I see it. I challenged AP’s over there and when they can no longer respond with logical debate and feel trapped in a corner they attack and accuse you of being a sock puppet, trolling, being disruptive and insulting. Yet, their insults go unacknowledged.
For an example here already look at “james40” immediate responses to my posts. He called me aliases, jealous friend, asshole (several times), anti-semitic, idiotic, and swears he knows me and I’ll put my tail between my legs soon and run like a scared dog. Not a single word or response to those comments by you. But I’m the disruptive troll.
If you prefer I lie and pretend to be sympathetic to Alan’s actions then you might as well ban me cause that’s not who I am.
If you know who I am that I stand for what I believe till proven otherwise based on my posts at other forums I'll go with that. If not your crystal ball let you down again.Quote:
Originally Posted by regnis
Blackhole you seem like a reasonable and intelligent fellow, so let me ask: What Would Blackhole Do?
You are walking through an entrance door into a lobby at Caesars Palace and when you step through the door you notice your right hand is covered with blood and there is blood covering the pocket area of your jacket where your hand touched the jacket; there is blood on your pants and on your shoes. Suddenly you feel the pain that comes from your hand being hit and then cut. You are bandaged and treated by security. Two days later you are home and the pain and bleeding continue so you visit a doctor who gives you a tetanus shot and puts you on a heavy duty antibiotic (CIPRO) because you have had a kidney/pancreas transplant, and your immune system was compromised, and you were cut with a deep wound that might not have been properly cleaned by the paramedic at the casino. The bleeding continues for more than a week and then one day the wound opens while you are holding a microphone while performing your job and there is blood dripping down your hand. The flap of skin from the wound is having trouble healing properly, and then, you discover a skin infection which your doctor calls a secondary infection and you are put on more medications. The wound finally heals and a small scar remains; the secondary infection has also healed but for a few days you had painful irritations in your groin area where a fungus infection can easily grow because of the infection and your weakened immune system.
The hotel's risk management department asks you for a report about your injury and treatment and it is provided to them including the doctor reports and copies of all bills and insurance payments.
Then, the hotel's risk management department says they are not at fault and if you want to sue them go ahead. But you never said you wanted to sue and you hoped that the hotel would show some concern for your injury and maybe do something "nice" for you considering what you went through for several weeks.
So, considering all that, What Would Blackhole Do?
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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
C’mon Alan you’re as old as me, you know exactly the right way to do things if you were looking for the right results. If your injury was as serious as you made it sound, you hire a good lawyer, give all your evidence to him/her, stop going to that casino and listen to the lawyers every command. The first thing he would have said is not to discuss this with anyone except me and your doctor. If he knew you wanted to discuss the process on a public forum he wouldn’t take the case. If he found out later you were discussing it on a forum (actually two forums) he would resign himself from the case. So, please let’s stop with all the drama.
The claim of you just wanting to act honorable really made you sound obvious. You said yourself you’ve been going and staying there for twenty years. I would assume if this was one of your favorite visited resorts, this is the place that would hold most of your losses. We all know they’re in financial trouble and might sooner or later sell out to new owners. How honorable are they running off with all the money they took from you?
Your injury sounds pretty serious and yet you want to be honorable? What is it you feel you owe them? You sound awfully anxious for any type of settlement. Sorry Alan but things are not adding up.
Also in your last post it still sounds like your lawyer is involved with this case. Is he entitled to the typical 33.3% fee for any recovered monies or settlements?
Respecting you at your age for wisdom and experience, you dropped the ball on this one. You made yourself look bad just hoping for some free play action at your level of play.
Disclaimer: Nothing said above or in any of my posts are confirmed fact. These posts are just my opinions and feelings about what I read on a public forum.