Rob Singer didn't beat video poker

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Originally Posted by Deech

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Originally Posted by redietz

Deep Thoughts from Rob Argentino.

It's a shame his mastery of the machines will die with him. And the secrets of how to get the IRS to agree that you're full-time when you do something four hours a week. It's sad that this knowledge will be lost to future generations.

But perhaps there's a secret cabal of trainees somewhere, waiting to keep the gnosis alive. One can only hope and pray.

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There was a recent post about a presumption that those who are good at math have reading disabilities. I would not go that far but there are countless individuals that are good at math and have poor verbal scores (guilty).

I am getting better. If given a multiple choice, I had "cabal" nailed. There is no doubt that I am in the minority that pronounced "gnosis" correctly. Then again, why would I be in a room by myself trying to articulate words that I do not know?

Please give another play on a machine that I can research? This room is shrinking. I will be reviewing the analysis of the play posted two above me.

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You're beginning to see the corn that guy writes in order to get things off his chest. Get too cozy though and you'll discover a private message asking if you need handicapper advice....for a small fee.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Brilliant trap, really...if casinos didn't have sports books. I didn't even respond to Mr. Mendelson on this, because it was so blatantly stupid, and I suspect Mr. Mendelson's suffering some cognitive issues. But Argentino stepped to the plate.

Of course he did. More Deep Thoughts and Gotchas from Rob Argentino.

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Yeah right---sports better's are constantly under "duress" by casinos to keep them there. And we all know these gamblers are absolutely showered with comps, especially when they "hammer" the casino for them.

I'm glad you showed such abnormal strength in "ignoring Alan" on this.

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Perhaps you've seen my late cousin, E.R.Dietz's, tickets from the Retro Road Trip thread. If not, there's a great story he used to tell. He cashed the first Mandalay tickets, I think they were for 36K or thereabouts (you can check the thread and get the precise figure), and he asked the sports book counter people for lunch. Well, they hemmed and hawed and didn't want to give him a free lunch to go with the 36K. He requested the manager. The manager told E.R. to go see a host. So they made E.R. cart the 36K in chips through the casino and go see a host. The host told him that he couldn't give him lunch, that it was up to the sports book manager. So E.R., still toting his chips, went back to the sports book. He said, "Look, I don't want anything fancy. No steakhouse. I just want lunch in the coffee shop." The manager said that he couldn't do it. E.R. then stood in front of the sports windows, and in his best Dan Druff voice said, "I can't believe you're making me walk out of here with thirty-six thousand of your money!" And he kept saying it, knowing the eyes in the sky were on him. Well, the sports book manager finally shrugged and said, "Okay, okay, where do you want to eat?"

So E.R. went and had a fine lunch. But as he was having lunch, he got more and more perturbed by the fact that they made him go see a host and be a loudmouth to simply get a free lunch. The more he thought about it, the more it bothered him.

When he was finished lunch, E.R. went back to the sports book. Not to complain, mind you. You see, he had another ticket. And he wanted dinner.


Dan, that story is for you. So whenever anyone gives you grief about being a comp hardliner, just tell them, "You should have seen that E.R.Dietz...."

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Originally Posted by redietz

they made E.R. cart the 36K in chips through the casino and go see a host.

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The sports books pay off winning bets with chips?

Since it's of general interest, yes, sometimes they did. The reasons are obvious.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Since it's of general interest, yes, sometimes they did. The reasons are obvious.

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Do they still offer chips as payment for sports bets?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by redietz

they made E.R. cart the 36K in chips through the casino and go see a host.

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The sports books pay off winning bets with chips?

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Never heard of such a thing. And I made a few calls after reading that.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by redietz

they made E.R. cart the 36K in chips through the casino and go see a host.

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The sports books pay off winning bets with chips?

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Never heard of such a thing. And I made a few calls after reading that.

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Mr. Mendelson, please, you make calls regarding the use of checks to pay sports bets, but never make a call to get a mathematician's take on Argentino's martingales or your win goal/loss limit nonsense?

You do realize that you are hanging yourself again? Why do you persist with this? What idiot would make up a story about getting checks as payment for a sports wager? What purpose would it serve to invent something like that?

Keep calling, Mr. Mendelson, that's my advice.

I don't know why anyone would be stupid enough to make up a story about being paid in chips for a sports wager.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I don't know why anyone would be stupid enough to make up a story about being paid in chips for a sports wager.

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Keep calling, Mr. Mendelson. I am amazed how someone with such limited knowledge strives to present themselves as an expert. Why don't you make a couple dozen calls, and then list by name and position everyone you called and precisely what they said. This should be fun.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I don't know why anyone would be stupid enough to make up a story about being paid in chips for a sports wager.

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I don't know about sports bets, but I got paid one of my $12,000 royal hits on spin poker in chips. Asked to be paid at the cage and not in front of everyone on the floor. They initially counted out the cash but then exchanged the cash for chips.

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I don't know why anyone would be stupid enough to make up a story about being paid in chips for a sports wager.

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Keep calling, Mr. Mendelson. I am amazed how someone with such limited knowledge strives to present themselves as an expert. Why don't you make a couple dozen calls, and then list by name and position everyone you called and precisely what they said. This should be fun.

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Why?

Using and getting paid in chips is "common" for sports bettors. At least for those who bet "big" amounts. It's much easier to deal with $20k in chips than $20k in cash....especially if you're making lots of bets and plan to make more bets. My buddy who bets fairly big (min ~$1k, max ~$15k) always uses chips.

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Originally Posted by RS__

Using and getting paid in chips is "common" for sports bettors. At least for those who bet "big" amounts. It's much easier to deal with $20k in chips than $20k in cash....especially if you're making lots of bets and plan to make more bets. My buddy who bets fairly big (min ~$1k, max ~$15k) always uses chips.

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RS, don't contradict Mr. Mendelson. He's making some calls.

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Originally Posted by redietz

What idiot would make up a story about getting checks as payment for a sports wager? What purpose would it serve to invent something like that?

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RS's post sheds light on why you made it up. You did it to make it seem difficult to carry chips rather than cash.

But RS explained that it's easier to carry seven $5K chips than 350 C-notes.

Maybe Redeitz wasn't telling a story so he could make something up about being paid in chips (because that's real)....maybe, just maybe, the story was about getting a comped lunch/dinner and there was a comedic element to it, as well.

At most casinos $36k in chips can be seven chocolate chips ($5000) and one canary chip ($1000). They would fit nicely in any pocket.

But RS has once again solved the problem earning his AP Club Card for another year... it was supposed to be a joke and we were to visualize someone carrying racks and racks of red ($500 to a rack) and green ($2500 to a rack) chips.

Haha. It would be a funny site: "So they made E.R. cart the 36K in chips through the casino...."

By the way and for the record, I also called the NGC and yes sports bets CAN be paid with chips.

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Originally Posted by RS__

Maybe Redeitz wasn't telling a story so he could make something up about being paid in chips (because that's real)....maybe, just maybe, the story was about getting a comped lunch/dinner and there was a comedic element to it, as well.

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The comedic element is a guy with $36K in his pocket grubbing lunch. He should be buying lunch.

The whole story sounds made up, as does the cousin E.R. Dietz.

Coach the key comedic word is "cart."

Don't you visualize it as carrying racks and racks of chips? Mr RE Dietz, the self proclaimed Editor Dietz, chooses his words carefully.

Cart definition: "carry (a heavy or cumbersome object) somewhere with difficulty."

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Maybe Redeitz wasn't telling a story so he could make something up about being paid in chips (because that's real)....maybe, just maybe, the story was about getting a comped lunch/dinner and there was a comedic element to it, as well.

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The comedic element is a guy with $36K in his pocket grubbing lunch. He should be buying lunch.

The whole story sounds made up, as does the cousin E.R. Dietz.

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Coach, you sound like my great aunt. She said E.R. and I looked so much alike, she couldn't tell us apart.

The entire story, of course, is true. There were no chocolate checks. Mr. Mendelson, as usual, misses the entire point of why a sports book would hand over a longshot future bet in 1K checks. But it's not surprising why he would miss the reason, when you think about it. Mr. Mendelson, after all, is the soul of gambling discipline. I'm somewhat surprised coach belly couldn't figure out the rationale, but perhaps I give him too much credit.

Once again, let's review. Mr. Mendleson calls the NGC to see if E.R.Dietz was fibbing about getting checks in a sports book. He thinks he has a gotcha moment, get this, because "he never heard of it." LOL. Then he gets snarky.

Now presumably, he would be just as enthused about verifying whether his friend, who's been pushing a video poker martingale for 25 years, has any math cred, or whether those pesky stop losses and win goals mathematically do anything. But he can't seem to dial the right numbers for that stuff. There simply must not be any math professors listed at UNLV or USC or UCLA or...well, you get the picture. This is a dishonest human being, and the sad thing is that he's been most dishonest with himself. Call the NGC in an hour's time to see if E.R. was lying. But research to see if his math beliefs and friend's voodoo systems work? He'll pass on that, because he must. He can't face reality. And he's had hour after hour, month after month, year after year, to make the proper calls and figure out the truth.

No kidding -- sports bets could be paid with chips. I think I said that.

In case anyone's wondering about the 1K checks, think about it. Could you see Mr. Mendelson making it across a casino floor twice with 1K chips in tow and not sitting down at a craps table at some point? Evidently his son can't.

36 $1,000 needn't be carted. They also fit in a pocket.

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Originally Posted by redietz

I'm somewhat surprised coach belly couldn't figure out the rationale

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I still don't see the rationale for accepting chips.

Did he intend to make lots more large bets that day, like RS's buddy?

Did he eventually cash the chips in, or did you find them with the tickets in your garage?

I'm sure he could have asked for a check. Why didn't he? That's the real question. I guess as an AP he couldn't stop gambling... having an advantage and all.

Redietz in another of his attempts to insult me wrote "and not sitting down at a craps table."

Sit down at a craps table?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Redietz in another of his attempts to insult me wrote "and not sitting down at a craps table."

Sit down at a craps table?

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The fat guys drag over a chair from a closed table game.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Redietz in another of his attempts to insult me wrote "and not sitting down at a craps table."

Sit down at a craps table?

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The fat guys drag over a chair from a closed table game.

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Oh. Another comical reference. I didn't realize redietz was such a humorous writer.

Well, I don't sit.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Redietz in another of his attempts to insult me wrote "and not sitting down at a craps table."

Sit down at a craps table?

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I know you’ve been to Rincon (Harrah’s of Southern California).

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Redietz in another of his attempts to insult me wrote "and not sitting down at a craps table."

Sit down at a craps table?

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I know you’ve been to Rincon (Harrah’s of Southern California).

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I didn't sit there either.

What are you going to do now? Have thirty pages about sitting at craps tables?

For the record you'd have a hard time making bets and picking up chips if you sit. Of course non craps players wouldn't know that.

Are you going to argue this too?

Actually a proper phrase would be "belly up to the craps table" since the rail hits on average at the belly.

Just thought it was funny you thought you had a "gotcha moment" when he said sit at a craps table instead of belly up to a craps table. Give it up already.

You can be paid in chips from poker tournaments too.

I find that $5k chips are a pain in the ass, as casinos tend to give you a hard time about them and do their best to prove they're not yours and confiscate them.

They don't give you the same run-around with $1k chips.

So I never take $5k chips. I'll take a lot of $1k chips if necessary.

BTW when I won my bracelet in 2005 ($347,385), I took it all in cash. I could have taken it in chips if I wanted.

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Just thought it was funny you thought you had a "gotcha moment" when he said sit at a craps table instead of belly up to a craps table. Give it up already.

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It was a gotcha moment. But you came to his rescue. NO ONE says "sit at a craps table."

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Just thought it was funny you thought you had a "gotcha moment" when he said sit at a craps table instead of belly up to a craps table. Give it up already.

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It was a gotcha moment. But you came to his rescue. NO ONE says "sit at a craps table."

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LOL -- while I love RS's interpretation, it was a gotcha moment. I have never played craps, and I never will play craps. I have seen motorized wheelchairs and such at the craps tables, but I should have said "stood" because Mr. Mendelson is not fat, so I apologize for the implication. He's irresponsible to readers; he's the George Costanza of gambling; and he has psychological issues, but he's not fat. RS, I owe you a meal sometime. That was brilliant.

Hey coach, E.R. had mentioned that he took the checks to the cashier and had them write a check. He doesn't carry cash after giving the casino boys a hard time -- you never know what could happen in a parking garage or enroute home. I guess E.R. spent enough time at the Stardust and Mirage to appreciate the ins and outs of Las Vegas, unlike the dudes who never heard of checks paying off sports bets.

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Hey coach, E.R. had mentioned that he took the checks to the cashier and had them write a check.

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Couldn't they cut him a check at the sports book window?

You can request a check from a slot attendant, but not from the sports book?

How about the W2G? Did they give him that with his chip stack?

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Originally Posted by redietz

The entire story, of course, is true.

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How can it be established that the story is true...because you wrote "of course" ?

Did your cousin ever really tell that story?...did you even have a cousin named E.R. Dietz ?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Redietz in another of his attempts to insult me wrote "and not sitting down at a craps table."

Sit down at a craps table?

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The fat guys drag over a chair from a closed table game.

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Yes. Usually it's one of the two positions next to the inside dealers. Last week in Reno I saw a guy (not fat) sitting at stick-right-1.

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Couldn't they cut him a check at the sports book window?

You can request a check from a slot attendant, but not from the sports book?

How about the W2G? Did they give him that with his chip stack?

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DIfferent casinos have different procedures coach belly. And sometimes, make that often they make zero sense.

I once hit an 8000 dollar royal and because I already had significant cash on me wanted a check. They told me I had to go to table games pit to have a check cut. ?? Not the cashier, but table game pit. ??

Well I then opted for cash as I didn't want anyone at the pit knowing my name. They probably did already, but why make it easy for them.

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They told me I had to go to table games pit to have a check cut.

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Was this at a casino similar in size to Mandalay Bay, or was is significantly smaller?

Do you suppose that they meant that the check would be cut in the pit? Or maybe that was part of the process to get a check cut,
where a manager of some sort was stationed who would initiate the process?

Wouldn't you have found it odd if the slot attendant had told you they needed to pay you in cash or chips first, which you would then have to cart or tote across the casino to the cashier, where you could exchange it for a check?

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Hey coach, E.R. had mentioned that he took the checks to the cashier and had them write a check.

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Couldn't they cut him a check at the sports book window?

You can request a check from a slot attendant, but not from the sports book?

How about the W2G? Did they give him that with his chip stack?

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Originally Posted by redietz

The entire story, of course, is true.

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How can it be established that the story is true...because you wrote "of course" ?

Did your cousin ever really tell that story?...did you even have a cousin named E.R. Dietz ?

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LOL -- coach, these cannot be serious questions. Please tell the peanut gallery that you are being facetious. Yowza, they let you gamble in Atlantic City? Some things in life you gotta figure out for yourself.

You asked the initial question about getting checks from the sports book. Why do you try to play gotcha and say negative things about people when you don't have a clue what you're talking about?

P.S. I may have found a photocopy of E.R.'s check from Mandalay in that box. LOL.

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Originally Posted by redietz

coach, these cannot be serious questions.

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I've never been to Mandalay Bay, so I'm not familiar with the logistics of the casino and cashing winning tickets.

Are you saying, that if you win a sports bet at Mandalay Bay, you must either take payment in cash or chips?

If you prefer a check, you must then cart or tote the cash or chips to a cashier, where you would exchange them for a check?

If the check itself can't be cut at the sports book, then I would expect them to give the player a ticket or voucher of some sort, that could be presented at the cashier in exchange for a check, instead of a stack of cash or chips to be carted or toted.

But I don't know for sure, so that's why I am asking the questions.

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coach, these cannot be serious questions.

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I've never been to Mandalay Bay, so I'm not familiar with the logistics of the casino and cashing winning tickets.

Are you saying, that if you win a sports bet at Mandalay Bay, you must either take payment in cash or chips?

If you prefer a check, you must then cart or tote the cash or chips to a cashier, where you would exchange them for a check?

If the check itself can't be cut at the sports book, then I would expect them to give the player a ticket or voucher of some sort, that could be presented at the cashier in exchange for a check, instead of a stack of cash or chips to be carted or toted.

But I don't know for sure, so that's why I am asking the questions.

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Coach, you know damn well everything sports gambling-related I post is correct. So believe me when I tell you that you are embarrassing yourself with questions like these. Las Vegas sports books do not abide by Marquess of Queensbury Rules. KewlJ tried to explain that to you, but evidently you don't listen too good, as they say.

Unlike KJ, I have zero interest in giving informational seminars to anti-AP anonymous maroons. Other than my "Shopping for Futures" posts, I don't do much charity work. If you want a brief seminar on the history and variance in Las Vegas sports book protocols, that can be arranged for a miserly fee.

Your questions, pretty much all of them, reveal that you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Coach,....
Your questions, pretty much all of them, reveal that you have no idea what you're talking about.

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^This

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Your questions, pretty much all of them, reveal that you have no idea what you're talking about.

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But I'm not talking like I know, I'm asking questions because I don't know.

Can you request a check for a winning sports bet, or must you accept cash or chips first, and then exchange them for a check?

Here's the thing coach belly. You and Alan and a couple other, routinely question things that are said that don't sound right to you. Nothing wrong with that on the surface, but it is more than that. You guys do so in a very accusing way. You are always trying to find some sort of gottch ya moment. And usually it is just something that you don't know about, so maybe it doesn't sound right to you, but almost always it is right.

Frankly I am a little tired of guys that have no clue like Alan questioning me, but not doing so in way of trying to learn something he doesn't know about, but rather doing so in way of "that's bullshit", when he has no clue about the topic....ZERO!

I mean the solution is that I just won't share experiences here. Other members have already taken to this remedy, so I will join them. I will just troll, and play games as that is what this site is....not a legitimate discussion about casino play of any kind.

And by the way, Redietz is the target of these attacks by those that have ZERO clue, more than anyone. Near as I can tell, some of you people have been going at it for over a decade, maybe longer than I have been of age to play in a casino. I guess some of you don't like Redietz so you try to discredit him....that is the playbook right?


Well let me tell you, I don't know a hell of a lot about sportsbetting (with an advantage), nor do I understand half of what Redietz says. I totally don't get the references about his cousin or what that has to do with anything. But I find Redietz to be VERY credible. Most of what he says is just flat out credible. You guys don't like him and have a long running battle, but it is just bullshit....it's childish. What are you hoping to gain, run another member off the site. Just knock it the fuck off and grow up.

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The sports books pay off winning bets with chips?

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Never heard of such a thing. And I made a few calls after reading that.

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Mr. Mendelson, please, you make calls regarding the use of checks to pay sports bets, but never make a call to get a mathematician's take on Argentino's martingales or your win goal/loss limit nonsense?

You do realize that you are hanging yourself again? Why do you persist with this? What idiot would make up a story about getting checks as payment for a sports wager? What purpose would it serve to invent something like that?

Keep calling, Mr. Mendelson, that's my advice.

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This is the gist of it. I say to Mr. Mendelson here, "You do realize that you are hanging yourself again?"

Yet he still takes a crack at debunking something he knows nothing about. Can you imagine if he tried to fine-tooth comb Argentino's nonsense? Multiple RVs, Hellcats that disappear, storage lockers with rigged video poker machines, income tax challenges that never materialize due to one party, a system that's never committed to paper, full-time professional gambler status working four hours a week (if filed as individual), trainees who stay cloistered for a decade, Jerry Logan, and on and on.

But I say that E.R. told me he got checks as payment from a sports book, and Mr. Mendelson calls the NGC. Funny stuff. Quite the consumer advocate.

It's goddamn hilarious how blatant his whoring for a fraudster has become.

And still I say, "You do realize that you are hanging yourself again?" Cutting the dude a forewarned break that he is absolutely incorrect.

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I'm somewhat surprised coach belly couldn't figure out the rationale

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I still don't see the rationale for accepting chips.

Did he intend to make lots more large bets that day, like RS's buddy?

Did he eventually cash the chips in, or did you find them with the tickets in your garage?

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Belly, this is what I mean by you being clueless. I'd frame this as a "gotcha" for me, but what's the point? The rationale isn't for accepting checks (chips). Obviously, I never wrote that. It's for the casino GIVING you checks. You can request whatever you like. The casino isn't obligated to fulfill your request.

Consider that a free life lesson. "You can get your checks out anytime you like, but some can never leave."

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The rationale isn't for accepting checks (chips). It's for the casino GIVING you checks.

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I was under the impression that a casino's sports book would pay large winnings like the casino would for a poker tournament cash, or a machine jackpot...you can request a check.

It's still not clear to me if that's not the case, you seem to be avoiding answering that directly, so further research is required.

I'll find out how they will handle it in AC this weekend, maybe Alan or somebody can ask at Mandalay Bay..."can the player request a check for winnings at the sports book?"

As for whether the rationale is/was for giving or accepting chips, RS explains the rationale for a player requesting chips below.

He explained the scenario from a player's perspective...the same perspective that I was interested in.

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Using and getting paid in chips is "common" for sports bettors. At least for those who bet "big" amounts. It's much easier to deal with $20k in chips than $20k in cash....especially if you're making lots of bets and plan to make more bets. My buddy who bets fairly big (min ~$1k, max ~$15k) always uses chips

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Here's the thing coach belly. You and Alan and a couple other, routinely question things that are said that don't sound right to you. Nothing wrong with that on the surface, but it is more than that. You guys do so in a very accusing way.

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Asking questions in an accusing way is the thing that bothers you...is that right?

You are without a doubt the biggest hypocrite in this group.

You started a thread accusing me of a crime, and repeated the accusation several times...no questions of an accusing nature, just an outright accusation.

Then there are the constant accusations that you routinely direct at Alan, those never stop.

It doesn't matter what you say that you'll do, you've already quit this forum multiple times, so who knows what to believe from you?

Redietz I called various casinos to find out if their sports books paid in cash or chips. They all told me they paid in cash. The NGC said bets could be paid in cash or chips.

I never asked anyone about checks. That's a question someone else asked about and I was never involved in the discussion. So why did you mention me as if I was?

And thank you for admitting you did give me a gotcha about sitting at craps. Thank you for admitting you never played the game.

It's clear that you will attack me every chance you get because you think I should be investigating Rob Singer. Look buddy, I don't care about hell cats or RVs or about storage lockers. Im not going to waste my time. I don't care if he has those toys or not. And you and everyone else shouldn't care either.

I'm not going to investigate his math claims either because he's honestly said everything about his special plays but you won't listen.

Kewlj you also have to attack me every chance you get. Say what you want. I don't care. My life doesn't even include you. You're just an anonymous poster on a forum who admits to faking his own death. What else?

Alan, I think people attack you because you constantly say stupid shit.

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Alan, I think people attack you because you constantly say stupid shit.

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I can accept when I'm wrong, but don't lie about me.

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Kewlj you also have to attack me every chance you get.

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I attack YOU every chance I get? I think you have that backwards sir. Who jumped up at 3am and ran out to the casino to take blurry pictures of a blackjack table thinking they were going to discredit me, simply because I mentioned a technique that you were not familiar with?

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You're just an anonymous poster on a forum who admits to faking his own death. What else?

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Good one Alan! This is an incident that occurred a decade ago after I was robbed at gunpoint. Am I proud of this solution made in haste? No. Would I do it differently if given the chance? Yes. BUT, how does this incident even effect you? You are not a professional blackjack player, who carried 10's of thousands of dollars each and every day, so you have no idea what I was thinking or going through. AND It was 8 years before you had any idea who I was. You are just looking for yet another reason to take a shot at me, because that is who you are.


You holding this incident against me, that you were not part of and didn't know me at the time is equivalent to me claiming you are a liar because you married and divorces a number of times (Till death do us part?). That had nothing to do with me and I don't know the circumstances so I don't judge you on that. I judge you on your actions and statements on this site, while I have been here. And to THAT I find you a liar and dishonest person. And this yet another example of that dishonesty trait that runs so strong within you.

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you are a liar because you married and divorces a number of times (Till death do us part?).

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You obviously don't understand what a lie is.

A lie is a statement made with intent to deceive.

You don't know what Alan's wedding vows were, and you can't know that they were made with an intent to deceive.

You're a tewl.

Kewlj.

1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

2. You're a coward for not meeting up with me at the casinos to show me how you can even see the cards at other tables. That my photos were blurry means nothing. You're a coward.

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1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

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Imagine that, I would have never guessed.

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1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

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Imagine that, I would have never guessed.

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Yes and I paid a lot for trusting their lies.

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you are a liar because you married and divorces a number of times (Till death do us part?).

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You obviously don't understand what a lie is.

A lie is a statement made with intent to deceive.

You don't know what Alan's wedding vows were, and you can't know that they were made with an intent to deceive.

You're a tewl.

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And you are a troll. You add zero value to this forum. Nothing but an internet troll.

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Kewlj.

1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

2. You're a coward for not meeting up with me at the casinos to show me how you can even see the cards at other tables. That my photos were blurry means nothing. You're a coward.

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Believe me Alan, I and everyone else already knew who divorced who. Lol

Now let's see if you can be honest for a change... Did any of these divorces have anything to do with your gambling?

Never went to a casino with wife #1 except for our honeymoon in St Maarten.

Wife #2 and I visited Vegas together.

I paid off $60,000 in wife #3's credit card debt because she was a gambler.

Wife #4 is the one with cancer and the marriage was annulled after two weeks. We got married after three dates. But became friends again.

Of course none of that will mean anything to you because you'll troll me and throw it back in my face.

I asked everyone on this forum to go to a casino and sit at a blackjack table and report back if cards at the neighboring table were visible. Redietz said he did it and they were. But who else has?

I've done it and I couldn't see cards because of the angle of the tables. The only way was to stand up and shift my head to compensate for the semi circle shape of the tables. Who else has tried?

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Rob Singer has not made any mathematical impossible claims. The rest of you have twisted his comments to make it seem he has.

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Out of curiosity, what does everyone here consider to be a mathematically impossible claim? :confused:

Let me first remind everyone what Rob did say about his Special Plays. He said they are ALL at a mathematical disadvantagr to the conventional play. But he was taking a chance hoping to get lucky on a big win.

Now, for everyone including redietz, just what would you like me to ask those math professors? Should I ask them if they believe in luck?

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Let me first remind everyone what Rob did say about his Special Plays. He said they are ALL at a mathematical disadvantagr to the conventional play. But he was taking a chance hoping to get lucky on a big win.

Now, for everyone including redietz, just what would you like me to ask those math professors? Should I ask them if they believe in luck?

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Rob Singer has not made any mathematical impossible claims. The rest of you have twisted his comments to make it seem he has.

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Out of curiosity, what does everyone here consider to be a mathematically impossible claim? :confused:

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I'll help your curiosity out eddie. The idiot ap's here, as well as yourself, consider the fact that I have won and continue to win on mostly -EV machines, to be a "mathematically impossible claim". As you know, the bunch you side with can only see +EV as winning and -EV as losing. That's why they're where they are today and why I'm where I'm at today--in both gambling and life. They have no outside-the-box capability, and most or all of them are social failures with little to no higher education.

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coach, these cannot be serious questions.

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I've never been to Mandalay Bay, so I'm not familiar with the logistics of the casino and cashing winning tickets.

Are you saying, that if you win a sports bet at Mandalay Bay, you must either take payment in cash or chips?

If you prefer a check, you must then cart or tote the cash or chips to a cashier, where you would exchange them for a check?

If the check itself can't be cut at the sports book, then I would expect them to give the player a ticket or voucher of some sort, that could be presented at the cashier in exchange for a check, instead of a stack of cash or chips to be carted or toted.

But I don't know for sure, so that's why I am asking the questions.

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Coach, when someone anonymous like redietz comes along and you start to expose his phony knowledge by asking questions that he'll only look even dumber trying to answer, you should know by now that he doesn't respond--just as he's never provided proof of any of his nonsense big shot sports handicapper/writer/vp player claims. To do so would, OF COURSE, make him look the fool he knows he really is.

Just as mickey never provides evidence that he actually plays anything, like kew has only a virtual hot-shot bj life, and the other anonymous "ap's" here claim to play from the safety of their armchairs, redietz' bluster about having some sort of gambling prowess is nothing but all talk and no action.

That's why he's here. That....and to solicit money.

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Let me first remind everyone what Rob did say about his Special Plays. He said they are ALL at a mathematical disadvantagr to the conventional play. But he was taking a chance hoping to get lucky on a big win.

Now, for everyone including redietz, just what would you like me to ask those math professors? Should I ask them if they believe in luck?

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None of us buy Rob story of his VP winnings. So don't waste your time.

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But Rob should give us a timeline to clear up the confusion.

Rob you are reporting play and bannings in the same posts so yes it can be confusing. Clear it up please.

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Mickey, it looks like it's going to depend whether or not Rob is in a "mis-remembering" mood or not. ;)

I'M BANNED!

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I called the executive offices at the Silverton, a place that won't allow me to play vp there any more because of being "too lucky".

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I'M NOT BANNED!

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That's what I did overnight at the Silverton--I trained a local "AP" who teaches 9th grade math in LV, and a few hours later someone who was on vacation from Michigan. They both won as they played 25c thru $2 ARTT and BOTH took advantage of hitting four face cards on $2 SDBP--and collecting $1200 W2G's--as a vehicle for their winning sessions. Even I won earlier in the evening while waiting, but I won less than either of them, which I enjoyed. It was a worthwhile trip and a good night all-around.

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I'M NOT BANNED!

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Did you check the date of my post about Silverton? Have you also checked to see how many times their mgmt. has changed since?

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I'M BANNED!

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And right now I'm banned from playing at Silverton, South Point, GVR, Casino Fandango, and Eldorado.

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Eddie you're an aspiring so. :confused: They think they're the smartest people in the room because they like to believe they have "street smarts". But if they really had any intelligence and if they ever had a formal education, they'd understand how a business works...and when changed are made :confused:and how to react to them. I went into play at Bellagio :confused:some time after they issued and I published my banning, because I knew what I was doing. I know you're speaking to this so-called "elite" base, but it would be a good idea for you to wise up.

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The Silverton is now the Bellagio? ;)

Misremembering... misspelling... misreading.

Who needs to wise up? :D

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Guess the (pick one) 'phoney', 'fool', 'idiot' hasn't 'wised up' yet and fabricated his timeline Alan. :rolleyes:

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Never heard of such a thing. And I made a few calls after reading that.

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Mr. Mendelson, please, you make calls regarding the use of checks to pay sports bets, but never make a call to get a mathematician's take on Argentino's martingales or your win goal/loss limit nonsense?

You do realize that you are hanging yourself again? Why do you persist with this? What idiot would make up a story about getting checks as payment for a sports wager? What purpose would it serve to invent something like that?

Keep calling, Mr. Mendelson, that's my advice.

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This is the gist of it. I say to Mr. Mendelson here, "You do realize that you are hanging yourself again?"

Yet he still takes a crack at debunking something he knows nothing about. Can you imagine if he tried to fine-tooth comb Argentino's nonsense? Multiple RVs, Hellcats that disappear, storage lockers with rigged video poker machines, income tax challenges that never materialize due to one party, a system that's never committed to paper, full-time professional gambler status working four hours a week (if filed as individual), trainees who stay cloistered for a decade, Jerry Logan, and on and on.

But I say that E.R. told me he got checks as payment from a sports book, and Mr. Mendelson calls the NGC. Funny stuff. Quite the consumer advocate.

It's goddamn hilarious how blatant his whoring for a fraudster has become.

And still I say, "You do realize that you are hanging yourself again?" Cutting the dude a forewarned break that he is absolutely incorrect.

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Well, they are FRIENDS redietz. :rolleyes:

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coach, these cannot be serious questions.

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I've never been to Mandalay Bay, so I'm not familiar with the logistics of the casino and cashing winning tickets.

Are you saying, that if you win a sports bet at Mandalay Bay, you must either take payment in cash or chips?

If you prefer a check, you must then cart or tote the cash or chips to a cashier, where you would exchange them for a check?

If the check itself can't be cut at the sports book, then I would expect them to give the player a ticket or voucher of some sort, that could be presented at the cashier in exchange for a check, instead of a stack of cash or chips to be carted or toted.

But I don't know for sure, so that's why I am asking the questions.

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Coach, when someone anonymous like redietz comes along and you start to expose his phony knowledge by asking questions that he'll only look even dumber trying to answer, you should know by now that he doesn't respond--just as he's never provided proof of any of his nonsense big shot sports handicapper/writer/vp player claims. To do so would, OF COURSE, make him look the fool he knows he really is.

Just as mickey never provides evidence that he actually plays anything, like kew has only a virtual hot-shot bj life, and the other anonymous "ap's" here claim to play from the safety of their armchairs, redietz' bluster about having some sort of gambling prowess is nothing but all talk and no action.

That's why he's here. That....and to solicit money.

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I'm very disappointed. You didn't mention that I'm left of Marx, I'm gay, and I rape dachshunds in my spare time (male ones, of course). I do appreciate you leaving out the part about me being Jerry Sandusky's pen pal and an avid fan of the Go-Go's.

Speaking of which, where the hell did I put my Go-Go's poster?

P.S. Mr. Mendelson can verify the dachshund stuff. He can just make a few calls...the Nevada Dachshund Commission has all the details on file.

I really don't understand the need to consult with any mathematician when Rob Singer fully admits his Special Plays are at a disadvantage to the conventional plays for the same dealt cards. That's point #1 for redietz.

Point #2 is that increasing denomination for a number of hands is not a Martingale. And again he's hoping that if he missed winners at the lower denominations he will hit at the higher denomination. Is that such a crime? Is it necessary to consult with a mathematician on that?

What you keep ignoring redietz is that Special Plays are rarely used. And honestly what's the difference between a 100.1% game and a 99.7% game? If that difference is important to you then you shouldn't gamble.

Oh, redietz, you don't really gamble do you? Just a little deuces wild here and there. In fact you can probably remove sports betting from gambling, couldn't you? I'm sure you tell your clients your tips aren't a gamble, right?

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I really don't understand the need to consult with any mathematician when Rob Singer fully admits his Special Plays are at a disadvantage to the conventional plays for the same dealt cards. That's point #1 for redietz.

Point #2 is that increasing denomination for a number of hands is not a Martingale. And again he's hoping that if he missed winners at the lower denominations he will hit at the higher denomination. Is that such a crime? Is it necessary to consult with a mathematician on that?

What you keep ignoring redietz is that Special Plays are rarely used. And honestly what's the difference between a 100.1% game and a 99.7% game? If that difference is important to you then you shouldn't gamble.

Oh, redietz, you don't really gamble do you? Just a little deuces wild here and there. In fact you can probably remove sports betting from gambling, couldn't you? I'm sure you tell your clients your tips aren't a gamble, right?

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Really, Mr. Mendelson, I have a hint for you, from one journalism major to another (to be precise, I switched to English/writing option halfway through). If you're going to say things about people, you may want to do a little research first. Like don't make things up, or assume, or speculate based on assumptions when you clearly know nothing about them, their history, or the field in which they operate. Or you can choose to continually make a horse's ass of yourself. If you prefer the latter, all I can say is (once again), "You do know that you're hanging yourself again, right?"

If I say something about getting checks for sports bets, is it "necessary to consult" (your words) with the NGC? I guess so.

Now if someone else makes claims about a system heretofore unknown to humankind that turns a negative EV game into a winner going forward, is it "really necessary to consult" mathematicians? Well, golly gee, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure which way my journalism professors would lean. Forget mathematicians. What would your journalism professors, or colleagues in journalism say? Consult or not consult?

Now, and I REALLY love this, Mr. Mendelson says, "redietz, you don't really gamble do you?" as if gambling as Mr. Mendelson does it is a badge of honor or something of which to be proud. So, just for Mr. Mendelson's benefit, let me be absolutely and perfectly clear. I have mentioned each of these, I'm sure, previously, but not altogether. I love being asked, "Do I really gamble?" So here you have it:

Craps -- Do not play it, Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Baccarat -- Do not play it. Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Pai Gow -- Do not play it. Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Three Card Poker -- Do not play it. Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Roulette -- Will occasionally play machine roulette to work off free play and/or garner comps. Will use cheap match plays on live roulette. Will not play it otherwise.
Lottery -- Will occasionally play a few bucks when the Mega type stuff gets astronomical. I have blown between $300 and $400 lifetime doing that. Will not play otherwise.
Keno -- Will play free ones. Will not play otherwise.
Blackjack -- Stopped playing 25 years ago. Will play to work off medium to big match plays.

I think the question Mr. Mendelson meant to ask is, "Do I really (degenerately) gamble?" Sad to say, probably not.

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They have no outside-the-box capability, and most or all of them are social failures with little to no higher education.

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Here's the problem cousin Eddie, what you are doing or saying IS NOT thinking outside the box. It is thinking outside of reality. Plain and simple, it is fantasy. There is no more a mathematical possibility of what you are claiming than there is of seeing 18 y.o.'s in a row. THAT is where you are at.

You are not stupid (but you are ugly), so you know the math. And this is precisely why you turn so angry, with all the hate and personal attacks when someone points out the math to you. You know it. I know it and almost everyone here knows it. You really aren't fooling anyone with this little game.

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Mickey, it looks like it's going to depend whether or not Rob is in a "mis-remembering" mood or not. ;)

I'M BANNED!

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I called the executive offices at the Silverton, a place that won't allow me to play vp there any more because of being "too lucky".

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I'M NOT BANNED!

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That's what I did overnight at the Silverton--I trained a local "AP" who teaches 9th grade math in LV, and a few hours later someone who was on vacation from Michigan. They both won as they played 25c thru $2 ARTT and BOTH took advantage of hitting four face cards on $2 SDBP--and collecting $1200 W2G's--as a vehicle for their winning sessions. Even I won earlier in the evening while waiting, but I won less than either of them, which I enjoyed. It was a worthwhile trip and a good night all-around.

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I'M NOT BANNED!

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Did you check the date of my post about Silverton? Have you also checked to see how many times their mgmt. has changed since?

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I'M BANNED!

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And right now I'm banned from playing at Silverton, South Point, GVR, Casino Fandango, and Eldorado.

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Eddie you're an aspiring so. :confused: They think they're the smartest people in the room because they like to believe they have "street smarts". But if they really had any intelligence and if they ever had a formal education, they'd understand how a business works...and when changed are made :confused:and how to react to them. I went into play at Bellagio :confused:some time after they issued and I published my banning, because I knew what I was doing. I know you're speaking to this so-called "elite" base, but it would be a good idea for you to wise up.

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The Silverton is now the Bellagio? ;)

Misremembering... misspelling... misreading.

Who needs to wise up? :D

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Guess the (pick one) 'phoney', 'fool', 'idiot' hasn't 'wised up' yet and fabricated his timeline Alan. :rolleyes:

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One mistake after the other eddie.

If you're gonna spend hours looking up old quotes--and don't try to look stupid by claiming it took you all of three minutes every time you chase your obsession--you need to follow the words as if you understand them instead of wasting your time as you did here.

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I really don't understand the need to consult with any mathematician when Rob Singer fully admits his Special Plays are at a disadvantage to the conventional plays for the same dealt cards. That's point #1 for redietz.

Point #2 is that increasing denomination for a number of hands is not a Martingale. And again he's hoping that if he missed winners at the lower denominations he will hit at the higher denomination. Is that such a crime? Is it necessary to consult with a mathematician on that?

What you keep ignoring redietz is that Special Plays are rarely used. And honestly what's the difference between a 100.1% game and a 99.7% game? If that difference is important to you then you shouldn't gamble.

Oh, redietz, you don't really gamble do you? Just a little deuces wild here and there. In fact you can probably remove sports betting from gambling, couldn't you? I'm sure you tell your clients your tips aren't a gamble, right?

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Really, Mr. Mendelson, I have a hint for you, from one journalism major to another (to be precise, I switched to English/writing option halfway through). If you're going to say things about people, you may want to do a little research first. Like don't make things up, or assume, or speculate based on assumptions when you clearly know nothing about them, their history, or the field in which they operate. Or you can choose to continually make a horse's ass of yourself. If you prefer the latter, all I can say is (once again), "You do know that you're hanging yourself again, right?"

If I say something about getting checks for sports bets, is it "necessary to consult" (your words) with the NGC? I guess so.

Now if someone else makes claims about a system heretofore unknown to humankind that turns a negative EV game into a winner going forward, is it "really necessary to consult" mathematicians? Well, golly gee, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure which way my journalism professors would lean. Forget mathematicians. What would your journalism professors, or colleagues in journalism say? Consult or not consult?

Now, and I REALLY love this, Mr. Mendelson says, "redietz, you don't really gamble do you?" as if gambling as Mr. Mendelson does it is a badge of honor or something of which to be proud. So, just for Mr. Mendelson's benefit, let me be absolutely and perfectly clear. I have mentioned each of these, I'm sure, previously, but not altogether. I love being asked, "Do I really gamble?" So here you have it:

Craps -- Do not play it, Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Baccarat -- Do not play it. Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Pai Gow -- Do not play it. Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Three Card Poker -- Do not play it. Never will. Do not even know the rules. Negative expectation game.
Roulette -- Will occasionally play machine roulette to work off free play and/or garner comps. Will use cheap match plays on live roulette. Will not play it otherwise.
Lottery -- Will occasionally play a few bucks when the Mega type stuff gets astronomical. I have blown between $300 and $400 lifetime doing that. Will not play otherwise.
Keno -- Will play free ones. Will not play otherwise.
Blackjack -- Stopped playing 25 years ago. Will play to work off medium to big match plays.

I think the question Mr. Mendelson meant to ask is, "Do I really (degenerately) gamble?" Sad to say, probably not.

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If you really knew what you were saying, it wouldn't take you such a lengthy post to think you got your point across.

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Kewlj.

2. You're a coward for not meeting up with me at the casinos to show me how you can even see the cards at other tables. That my photos were blurry means nothing. You're a coward.

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Is that what this is ALL about Alan? You are somehow hurt that I have no desire to meet up with you and hangout? You feel slighted? Get over it.

Alan, I am going to explain something to you. You won't listen because you don't listen to what you don't want to hear.

I am an AP, an advantage player. I play blackjack for a living. The very industry that I must play against, wants nothing more than to stop me from playing. They go out of their way hiring database companies and consultants to try to identify AP's. Entire new industries have sprung up in the database companies like OSN, biometrics and other database companies as well as all the consultants, most phoney and taking advantage of the casino industry by feeding them a load of shit about the amount AP's really cost the casinos. But that's another story. Anyway the casino industry spends dollar(s) for every penny it saves fighting AP's.

Now this is all AP's, but many times worse for table game AP, whether it be blackjack or some of the other carnival game players, because unlike machine players we must interact with casino personnel regularly.

Now on top of an entire industry trying to identify me and out me, I have members of different websites that I participate on, attempting to out me. Here, at the previous site I was on, and even at Wizard of Vegas nearly 2 years after I was off the site, someone posted requesting my real name, address, phone number and a picture.

Alan, do can you understand that real AP's must protect their identity. We are very careful who we meet. I have met exactly 2 AP's off a forum in my time in this community. And I have turned down some opportunities of meeting some people that I respect and learned a great deal from. A couple times I turned down such an opportunity to meet with two guys that had a big influence on me, even though I knew they were in failing health and that would be my one and only chance to meet them. THAT is how guarded I am.

So tell me Alan, keeping all that in mind, why would I want to meet up with you.....a guy that has been hostile to me since the day I joined this site, repeatedly trying to discredit me. Why would I want to do that Alan?

You can call me whatever names you like, whatever makes you feel better. I am an AP. You sir have no idea what that means. But I will protect myself and try to extend my ability to earn a living by these means as long as I can. That is just the way it is.

There may come a time later in my career, as my career is winding down that I can be less guarded. But that time is not now, nor is my career winding down.

It is the same with the book thing. I have had two offers to write a book of my story. Most recent was two years ago, by a gambling publisher here in LV, and I even accepted a significant advance, which is unusual. But as I was getting started I realized this was not the right time for that. I can't tell my story, particularly some of the more recent experiences and ancedotes, without jeopardizing myself right now. So I pulled out of that deal, returned the advance money, creating hurt feeling. And I don't know if I will get another chance after that, but if I do, it will be towards the end of my career, NOT now. Right now my focus is on longevity and I will do everything I can to extend that and protect my identity.

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They have no outside-the-box capability, and most or all of them are social failures with little to no higher education.

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Here's the problem cousin Eddie, what you are doing or saying IS NOT thinking outside the box. It is thinking outside of reality. Plain and simple, it is fantasy. There is no more a mathematical possibility of what you are claiming than there is of seeing 18 y.o.'s in a row. THAT is where you are at.

You are not stupid (but you are ugly), so you know the math. And this is precisely why you turn so angry, with all the hate and personal attacks when someone points out the math to you. You know it. I know it and almost everyone here knows it. You really aren't fooling anyone with this little game.

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That's funny kew. You claim I resort to personal attacks when someone disagrees with me, then you jump into "I just can't help myself" mode and call me names because you are so flustered over me. :)

Naturally I like to see such weakness, esp. from a fairy who knows they have something wrong with them from the get-go.

Just for real fun, you already know I graduated from college and grad school with degrees grounded solidly in math. Anyone who doubts this can easily check. Just re-visit wizard's interview. So explain just why I would believe what anyone here has to say about the math, when nearly all of you are anonymous cowards with no formal math education making envy-filled shout-outs against me for the simple reason that you are all too dumb or afraid to begin to try to understand anything that's said to you that disagrees with your beliefs.

Doesn't matter to me if I'm considered ugly now, or how handsome I was considered to be at half my age. What makes sense is that someone with your low IQ level who claims to be something he's not---and is absolutely AFRAID to meet me for a physical challenge because you're simply an anonymous little queer twit that would cower at the sight of anyone in top physical shape--would try to explain how the math works to someone like me, when they are unable to comprehend even the most basic exceptions and limitations in probability.

Wise up.

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Kewlj.

2. You're a coward for not meeting up with me at the casinos to show me how you can even see the cards at other tables. That my photos were blurry means nothing. You're a coward.

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Is that what this is ALL about Alan? You are somehow hurt that I have no desire to meet up with you and hangout? You feel slighted? Get over it.

Alan, I am going to explain something to you. You won't listen because you don't listen to what you don't want to hear.

I am an AP, an advantage player. I play blackjack for a living. The very industry that I must play against, wants nothing more than to stop me from playing. They go out of their way hiring database companies and consultants to try to identify AP's. Entire new industries have sprung up in the database companies like OSN, biometrics and other database companies as well as all the consultants, most phoney and taking advantage of the casino industry by feeding them a load of shit about the amount AP's really cost the casinos. But that's another story. Anyway the casino industry spends dollar(s) for every penny it saves fighting AP's.

Now this is all AP's, but many times worse for table game AP, whether it be blackjack or some of the other carnival game players, because unlike machine players we must interact with casino personnel regularly.

Now on top of an entire industry trying to identify me and out me, I have members of different websites that I participate on, attempting to out me. Here, at the previous site I was on, and even at Wizard of Vegas nearly 2 years after I was off the site, someone posted requesting my real name, address, phone number and a picture.

Alan, do can you understand that real AP's must protect their identity. We are very careful who we meet. I have met exactly 2 AP's off a forum in my time in this community. And I have turned down some opportunities of meeting some people that I respect and learned a great deal from. A couple times I turned down such an opportunity to meet with two guys that had a big influence on me, even though I knew they were in failing health and that would be my one and only chance to meet them. THAT is how guarded I am.

So tell me Alan, keeping all that in mind, why would I want to meet up with you.....a guy that has been hostile to me since the day I joined this site, repeatedly trying to discredit me. Why would I want to do that Alan?

You can call me whatever names you like, whatever makes you feel better. I am an AP. You sir have no idea what that means. But I will protect myself and try to extend my ability to earn a living by these means as long as I can. That is just the way it is.

There may come a time later in my career, as my career is winding down that I can be less guarded. But that time is not now, nor is my career winding down.

It is the same with the book thing. I have had two offers to write a book of my story. Most recent was two years ago, by a gambling publisher here in LV, and I even accepted a significant advance, which is unusual. But as I was getting started I realized this was not the right time for that. I can't tell my story, particularly some of the more recent experiences and ancedotes, without jeopardizing myself right now. So I pulled out of that deal, returned the advance money, creating hurt feeling. And I don't know if I will get another chance after that, but if I do, it will be towards the end of my career, NOT now. Right now my focus is on longevity and I will do everything I can to extend that and protect my identity.

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Now if that's not just another load of crap from what's just another cowardly ap.....

Longevity my ass. You know you don't have much time left with that corrupted system of yours. So fess up and stop with the "I play bj for a living" bs. Get this thru your tiny head: NOBODY CARES....AND YOU WILL NEVER GET ANY RELEVANCE FROM ANYONE HERE. If your puny life had any value, you'd have met up with Alan and proved your stupid claims. Instead, you choose the redietz route, and claim no ap has to prove anything they say, and if you don't like it lump it, take it down the road and dump it.

See why you're nothing but a lying twit?

Did they teach you in J School the first three rules of reporting? They are:

1. Accuracy
2. Accuracy
3. Accuracy

I think you failed because you keep stating inaccurate points. Your latest "If I say something about getting checks for sports bets, is it "necessary to consult" (your words) with the NGC? I guess so."

I'm going to say it again. I didn't call the NGC about getting checks from sports bets. I called only to ask if one could be paid with chips.

Now try to get something correct you pompous ass.

Alan Mendelson.

Every time you talk about Rob's system you try to confuse and reduce the issue and just focus on his special ED plays.

We all know his special ED plays are meaningless in the grand scheme of things regarding his system. That's not really what his system is about. He's willing to give up EV for a chance to hit something bigger. That's not some unique strategy, ploppys have been doing it since the start of VP.

Do you think VP is random or not?

Do you think he has a winning system? YES OR NO.

Please do go into all that nonsense about it being a good thing to quit when you are ahead or stopping if you lost too much.

Kewlj in my career I've protected real secrets. I almost went to jail protecting real secrets. Protecting your ID is nothing more than a single gray hair on my head.

Axel wolf brace yourself for my response. Number one I don't know if Rob Singer has a winning system because I don't play it and I don't use his system. Number two I certainly hope that all video poker machines are random. Of course I can't tell you if they are or not but I just hope they are.

I love how Alan thinks APs are playing games with a 100.1% return and somehow even with Rob’s terrible play he’s theoretically getting a 99.7% return.