Note to Todd / Druff

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Big nope.

I already answered your other thread about it.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act.

Section 230 protects online platforms like this one from liability for third-party content posted by their users, allowing them to host content without fear of lawsuits for defamation or other claims.

If you wish to attempt to take legal action against kewlJ, that's up to you. I am not liable, nor will I take down any of his posts, unless they give out personal information (which you didn't already post yourself).

You are welcome to rebut his claims at any time.


With that said, if you'd like to send me a copy here (or email, if you'd like my email address) of the documentation to verify that you're telling the truth, I will be glad to acknowledge receipt of this and give my opinion publicly.

Obviously I am no friend of kewlJ's, and have no bias in his favor.

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Mickey with his political knowledge can verify this. Section 230 CURRENTLY protects online platforms like this, and the currents do not favor the future. And I am a very, very patient man. I am guessing here, but you probably realize this. So I root, root, root for Republicans to do well in perpetuity. Plus this is a uniquely US position vis-a-vis defamation. Patience is a virtue, as they say. When the law changes, and it will, I will be there.

Football is almost over for me, so I will actually have Regions Bank forward a document to you in the months ahead, and I'll proceed from there.

I find it horrific that someone running something called "Poker Fraud Alert" allows defamation on his site. I don't know how you logically defend fraudulent declarations when your main site is allegedly devoted to exposing fraudulent activities. That seems, at best, a confused and confusing position to take.

My email is IntegritySports@aol.com, as I have posted here three dozen times. Send along your email.

Best of luck.

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Section 230 isn't going away. Neither party wants that. If your big plan is to wait for it to be repealed and then sue, good luck. (There's also a statute of limitations problem... uh oh!)

But look, it's very simple. If you think kewlJ has posted something damaging (I'm not even understanding how you've been damaged), just send me the proof that he's wrong, and if the documents look authentic, I'll come out here and state so.

There's no need to come out and attempt to scare me into thinking I'll be sued, in order to force some kind of censorious compliance.

I can tell you that nobody here gives a crap whether you own your house or whatever. Like, seriously, nobody cares about that. And that's not an insult. I doubt anyone cares if I own my house.

And I don't think anyone cares how often you actually sportsbet, or whether you still make a living betting sports. Again, this doesn't matter, just like I don't give a crap if people post that I'm a losing poker player.

kewlJ loves to fight and argue with people. He's been doing it on forums long before he got over to VCT. I don't fall for his victim routine, which frustrates him a lot. As far as I'm concerned, he's just as much a troll as Singer and the other routine trolls here, he just does it in a different way.

That's not to say all of kewlJ's posts are crap. Some of them are good, informative, intelligent, etc. That's because he's not a dumb guy. He just has a screw loose somewhere, and can't interact normally with people on forums without always starting some kind of drama.

So trust me when I say that nobody here is concerned whether or not his allegations against you are true, especially since the "allegations" themselves are stupid and inconsequential.

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

a forum provider cannot be held legally liable for slander

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There are no messages on this forum that can be considered slander.

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of course what you have posted is false
if someone posted something slanderous about another forum member right at this moment -
nothing would be done about it
the remarks would not be moderated
unless the remarks were about Druff himself and he felt like taking action; as he has done re Boz's posts

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I took no pleasure in banning Boz, and it wasn't because he was criticizing me.

Boz decided he was going to spam both this and my PFA forum with shitposts because he didn't like my PFA moderation decisions. He was trying to get banned, and he accomplished it.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ loves to fight and argue with people -

He just has a screw loose somewhere, and can't interact normally with people on forums without always starting some kind of drama.

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In a nutshell.

Pun intended...

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ loves to fight and argue with people. He's been doing it on forums long before he got over to VCT. I don't fall for his victim routine, which frustrates him a lot. As far as I'm concerned, he's just as much a troll as Singer and the other routine trolls here, he just does it in a different way.

That's not to say all of kewlJ's posts are crap. Some of them are good, informative, intelligent, etc. That's because he's not a dumb guy. He just has a screw loose somewhere, and can't interact normally with people on forums without always starting some kind of drama.

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With whatever due respect, Dan Druff, I don't think it is me that starts most of the drama and trolling. Maybe some but not most. But if someone lies or attacks me, I am going to fight back. If that means we go into the mud.....so be it. :rolleyes: I learned that from one mickeycrimm, BTW. Troll them back twice as hard. :)

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

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Originally Posted by coach belly

There are no messages on this forum that can be considered slander.

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of course what you have posted is false
if someone posted something slanderous about another forum member right at this moment -
nothing would be done about it
the remarks would not be moderated
unless the remarks were about Druff himself and he felt like taking action; as he has done re Boz's posts

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I took no pleasure in banning Boz, and it wasn't because he was criticizing me.

Boz decided he was going to spam both this and my PFA forum with shitposts because he didn't like my PFA moderation decisions. He was trying to get banned, and he accomplished it.

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Why are you screwing up your moderation decisions over on PFA?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Mickey with his political knowledge can verify this. Section 230 CURRENTLY protects online platforms like this, and the currents do not favor the future. And I am a very, very patient man. I am guessing here, but you probably realize this. So I root, root, root for Republicans to do well in perpetuity. Plus this is a uniquely US position vis-a-vis defamation. Patience is a virtue, as they say. When the law changes, and it will, I will be there.

Football is almost over for me, so I will actually have Regions Bank forward a document to you in the months ahead, and I'll proceed from there.

I find it horrific that someone running something called "Poker Fraud Alert" allows defamation on his site. I don't know how you logically defend fraudulent declarations when your main site is allegedly devoted to exposing fraudulent activities. That seems, at best, a confused and confusing position to take.

My email is IntegritySports@aol.com, as I have posted here three dozen times. Send along your email.

Best of luck.

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Section 230 isn't going away. Neither party wants that. If your big plan is to wait for it to be repealed and then sue, good luck. (There's also a statute of limitations problem... uh oh!)

But look, it's very simple. If you think kewlJ has posted something damaging (I'm not even understanding how you've been damaged), just send me the proof that he's wrong, and if the documents look authentic, I'll come out here and state so.

There's no need to come out and attempt to scare me into thinking I'll be sued, in order to force some kind of censorious compliance.

I can tell you that nobody here gives a crap whether you own your house or whatever. Like, seriously, nobody cares about that. And that's not an insult. I doubt anyone cares if I own my house.

And I don't think anyone cares how often you actually sportsbet, or whether you still make a living betting sports. Again, this doesn't matter, just like I don't give a crap if people post that I'm a losing poker player.

kewlJ loves to fight and argue with people. He's been doing it on forums long before he got over to VCT. I don't fall for his victim routine, which frustrates him a lot. As far as I'm concerned, he's just as much a troll as Singer and the other routine trolls here, he just does it in a different way.

That's not to say all of kewlJ's posts are crap. Some of them are good, informative, intelligent, etc. That's because he's not a dumb guy. He just has a screw loose somewhere, and can't interact normally with people on forums without always starting some kind of drama.

So trust me when I say that nobody here is concerned whether or not his allegations against you are true, especially since the "allegations" themselves are stupid and inconsequential.

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Does it help Red's case that I partially believe what KJ said? I wonder how many people were scared away from Red's tout/investment scheme due to KJ's post?

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

of course what you have posted is false
if someone posted something slanderous about another forum member right at this moment -
nothing would be done about it
the remarks would not be moderated
unless the remarks were about Druff himself and he felt like taking action; as he has done re Boz's posts

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I took no pleasure in banning Boz, and it wasn't because he was criticizing me.

Boz decided he was going to spam both this and my PFA forum with shitposts because he didn't like my PFA moderation decisions. He was trying to get banned, and he accomplished it.

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Why are you screwing up your moderation decisions over on PFA?

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I don't want to go into this much, but I'll briefly describe what happened.

Boz was posting a lot on PFA. For awhile it was fine. Most of his posts were good, and he fit in fairly well.

The problem was that he eventually developed a beef with one of the longtime regulars named sonatine. Several of the longtime regulars took sonatine's side, and Boz was bitter about it.

Boz then would proceed to troll sonatine in nearly every thread where he posted, and it was fucking up the forum's readability. If I deleted some of these posts or banned Boz from a thread because he wouldn't stop, he took it as my "taking sides", and got angry.

Well, eventually Boz did this to such an extreme that it was intolerable. Every time sonatine or I would post, he would respond with some remark about sonatine being fat or that "sonatine sucks Druff's cock". Then he let it spill over to this forum, where he was doing the same thing to me over here, even though almost nobody at VCT has any idea who sonatine is.

I turned off his posting ability on both sides, at which point he created duplicate accounts to keep doing the same thing. This resulted in a permanent IP ban.

At one point he remarked that he was actually trying to get banned, so.... mission accomplished.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I took no pleasure in banning Boz, and it wasn't because he was criticizing me.

Boz decided he was going to spam both this and my PFA forum with shitposts because he didn't like my PFA moderation decisions. He was trying to get banned, and he accomplished it.

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Why are you screwing up your moderation decisions over on PFA?

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I don't want to go into this much, but I'll briefly describe what happened.

Boz was posting a lot on PFA. For awhile it was fine. Most of his posts were good, and he fit in fairly well.

The problem was that he eventually developed a beef with one of the longtime regulars named sonatine. Several of the longtime regulars took sonatine's side, and Boz was bitter about it.

Boz then would proceed to troll sonatine in nearly every thread where he posted, and it was fucking up the forum's readability. If I deleted some of these posts or banned Boz from a thread because he wouldn't stop, he took it as my "taking sides", and got angry.

Well, eventually Boz did this to such an extreme that it was intolerable. Every time sonatine or I would post, he would respond with some remark about sonatine being fat or that "sonatine sucks Druff's cock". Then he let it spill over to this forum, where he was doing the same thing to me over here, even though almost nobody at VCT has any idea who sonatine is.

I turned off his posting ability on both sides, at which point he created duplicate accounts to keep doing the same thing. This resulted in a permanent IP ban.

At one point he remarked that he was actually trying to get banned, so.... mission accomplished.

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Fair enough. Now, can you address the same problem here? KJ can't ever post without being trolled by the same person over and over with dumb quotes. And this isn't about KJ; he just happens to be a favorite target.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

Why are you screwing up your moderation decisions over on PFA?

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I don't want to go into this much, but I'll briefly describe what happened.

Boz was posting a lot on PFA. For awhile it was fine. Most of his posts were good, and he fit in fairly well.

The problem was that he eventually developed a beef with one of the longtime regulars named sonatine. Several of the longtime regulars took sonatine's side, and Boz was bitter about it.

Boz then would proceed to troll sonatine in nearly every thread where he posted, and it was fucking up the forum's readability. If I deleted some of these posts or banned Boz from a thread because he wouldn't stop, he took it as my "taking sides", and got angry.

Well, eventually Boz did this to such an extreme that it was intolerable. Every time sonatine or I would post, he would respond with some remark about sonatine being fat or that "sonatine sucks Druff's cock". Then he let it spill over to this forum, where he was doing the same thing to me over here, even though almost nobody at VCT has any idea who sonatine is.

I turned off his posting ability on both sides, at which point he created duplicate accounts to keep doing the same thing. This resulted in a permanent IP ban.

At one point he remarked that he was actually trying to get banned, so.... mission accomplished.

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Fair enough. Now, can you address the same problem here? KJ can't ever post without being trolled by the same person over and over with dumb quotes. And this isn't about KJ; he just happens to be a favorite target.

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Kew gets that treatment by mdawg because he tells unproven lies about him ALL THE TIME. That's the definition of trolling. If he were simply offering his opinion about mdawg then he wouldn't need to be writing essay after essay saying the same stuff just because he doesn't like what mdawg reports on another forum, or because he doesn't want it to be that mdawg might actually be winning. But kew has, as Dan just said, a screw loose, and for more than one reason.

Dan has offered red the chance to send in proof of what he's complaining about and he'll post his analysis of the documentation here. That's counter-productive to the reason for these ego-serving social media forums, where really no one cares--as Dan reiterated--who says they did or had whatever. We all understand that but troll kew, who knows nothing of the veracity of mdawg's claims other than that which he wants to desperately try to convince others of.

Perhaps mdawg or redietz could provide proof of claims to Dan, perhaps not. WE DON'T CARE....and any reasonable person who has a decent real life would and should not care. Only sick, seriously tormented individuals would care and be overly obsessed about such a thing that has no bearing or effect on their life at all....unless they want it to. And that would be a truly deranged individual---one who cannot successfully fit into today's dynamic world, but instead finds some type of pathetic solace in online forums where they can merrily lie about themselves and others as if everything they're ranting about and alleging is the gospel truth.

The most glaring example of mdawg trying to have credibility was when he met up with Wizard. After wiz reported on the meet-up, kew didn't like it and forever has tried to spin it into something he can live with, complete with his trademark compulsive lying about it.

The same would happen to red, regardless of Dan's involvement. If it were positive, kew couldn't live with that and would immediately claim Dan was paid off by red. Just as any frustrated, sick person would react.

Kew thrives on drama and chaos, and does not get along with anyone anywhere because of it. That's here; how do you expect he performs in the real world.....

Rob Singer just wrote a 6-paragraph post in which he complained about the length of my posts. :D The guy who pulled the RV caper, who posted pictures of a jackpot on a computer in his daughter's house, who went out and bought fake money to put in his safe is going to lecture us on who is trolling and who isn't. Give me a break!

And to no surprise, Rob has everything he said ass backwards. If I met with say mickeycrimm or axelwolf and they watched me play for 45 minutes, would that prove I had won almost 2 million playing blackjack like I claim I have over 20 years? Of course not! As a matter of fact, there is a member of WoV, that says he has seen me play multiple times. So can I say, that proves what I claim, like Mdawg does with wizard, who saw him play for 45 minutes?

Now Rob and others can say "who cares" about my calling out Dawgs claims as bullshit. I care! I care because I play blackjack for a living and the things he claims are flat out bullshit.

Over on Druff's poker forum, the longest running thread is a thread calling out Christopher Mitchell. And do you know who one of the bigger more frequent posters is that calls out Christopher Mitchell for like a decade now? Dan Druff. Real players that play for a living or even if they don't play for a living, just don't like some asswipe coming along making bullshit claims like this. And that includes Dawgs claims and you and all your bullshit claims Rob.

And YOU, Rob Singer, one of the bigger trolls in gambling forum history don't get to sit here and say "who cares". You don't get to decide if it is important to me to call out bullshit like Dawgs and your claims, or if important for Dan Druff to continue to call out Christopher Mitchell claims. So fuck off you goofy old bastard.

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I counted cards in Atlantic City for 7 years traveling there once every week (almost 200 miles each way) and played for 14 hours straight breaking only to eat some food

KJ has a tremendous knowledge of advantage play at blackjack which he has shared here

that is what a gambling forum is all about or should be all about

his posts re BJ are potentially very valuable to somebody who is learning the game

everything he has posted about advantage play at BJ is 100% accurate

all of the other stuff - misinformation he may have posted about his personal life - stuff that some here make a big deal out of - is much less important - trivial really

I believe not just Red, but others here have called him a "male prostitute" which is especially reprehensible

why is he targeted here in this manner-?______idk - maybe jealousy - because he's successful in a way that others here aren't - that would be my best guess

being able to support yourself and live comfortably as a professional gambler with no other form of employment for many years is an impressive accomplishment indeed

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I counted cards in Atlantic City for 7 years traveling there once every week (almost 200 miles each way) and played for 14 hours straight breaking only to eat some food

KJ has a tremendous knowledge of advantage play at blackjack which he has shared here

that is what a gambling forum is all about or should be all about

his posts re BJ are potentially very valuable to somebody who is learning the game

everything he has posted about advantage play at BJ is 100% accurate

all of the other stuff - misinformation he may have posted about his personal life - stuff that some here make a big deal out of - is much less important - trivial really

I believe not just Red, but others here have called him a "male prostitute" which is especially reprehensible

why is he targeted here in this manner-?______idk - maybe jealousy - because he's successful in a way that others here aren't - that would be my best guess

being able to support yourself and live comfortably as a professional gambler with no other form of employment for many years is an impressive accomplishment indeed

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I don't believe you have been paying as close attention as you think.

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

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I counted cards in Atlantic City for 7 years traveling there once every week (almost 200 miles each way) and played for 14 hours straight breaking only to eat some food

KJ has a tremendous knowledge of advantage play at blackjack which he has shared here

that is what a gambling forum is all about or should be all about

his posts re BJ are potentially very valuable to somebody who is learning the game

everything he has posted about advantage play at BJ is 100% accurate

all of the other stuff - misinformation he may have posted about his personal life - stuff that some here make a big deal out of - is much less important - trivial really

I believe not just Red, but others here have called him a "male prostitute" which is especially reprehensible

why is he targeted here in this manner-?______idk - maybe jealousy - because he's successful in a way that others here aren't - that would be my best guess

being able to support yourself and live comfortably as a professional gambler with no other form of employment for many years is an impressive accomplishment indeed

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Thank you for the kind words, Half Smoke. I appreciate it, especially knowing you don't like to post here often.

I have tried to tell these people, that any real advantage player with card counting knowledge will KNOW that I know what I am talking about and my story true. Unfortunately, we don't have many here. We have a handful of trolls and haters that drown everything else out.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ has been a whiner, a liar, a hypocrite, and a pain in the ass on many occasions

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The entire forum knows you have an issue with pathological lying.

you can't help but insert fibs into your postings

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The issue is not boz’ trolling of a prolific troll himself, sonatine. The issue is not about mdawg’s prolific trolling of KJ. The issue is about who does the most prolific trolling , boz, sonatine, KJ, mdawg.

Mdawg and sonatine win. We’re talking about volume here. Mdawg autotrolls. . Sometimes a dozen posts a day.

Sonatine starts half the threads on PFA and 95% of them he’s trolling the non-leftards of PFA. The one thing that sets sonatine and mdawg apart is sonatine is the most viscious troll of either forum. I know. I’ve been the butt of his trolls many times.

So when boz tore into sonatine I was happier than a pig in mud. He ripped tine a new asshole. Sonatine, after his long and glorious career of visciously trolling people couldn’t compete with boz and actually cowered away from him. It was wonderful to watch.

But the real issue is why did druff ignore mdawg for years but lower the boom on boz?

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

But the real issue is why did druff ignore mdawg for years but lower the boom on boz?

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I think Druff answered this. In wasn't a good answer, nor the right answer, but he basically said he plays favorites. He has made it quite clear he doesn't like me, therefore it is open season on trolling and harassing me with nasty attacks.

I don't read PFA enough to know exactly what is going on, but as a casual observer, Druff must like or appreciate that Sonatine dude, even though their political views don't line up (which is big on that forum).

A forum owner has a little different agenda. They want traffic and people like Dawg and this Sonatine, create traffic and responses (more traffic). I said this years ago and Dan Druff denied it, saying he is not trying to monetize this site which is why most forum owners want traffic. Maybe he is not, but still no forum owner wants his forum sitting there with little traffic.

I do appreciate all the members here speaking out that what Mdawg is doing and allowed to do isn't right. Mickeycrimm, Axelwolf, Half Smoke, and keystone and Jdaewoo in their own way. And I don't think it is about me as much as they just know it isn't right.

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The issue is not boz’ trolling of a prolific troll himself, sonatine. The issue is not about mdawg’s prolific trolling of KJ. The issue is about who does the most prolific trolling , boz, sonatine, KJ, mdawg.

Mdawg and sonatine win. We’re talking about volume here. Mdawg autotrolls. . Sometimes a dozen posts a day.

Sonatine starts half the threads on PFA and 95% of them he’s trolling the non-leftards of PFA. The one thing that sets sonatine and mdawg apart is sonatine is the most viscious troll of either forum. I know. I’ve been the butt of his trolls many times.

So when boz tore into sonatine I was happier than a pig in mud. He ripped tine a new asshole. Sonatine, after his long and glorious career of visciously trolling people couldn’t compete with boz and actually cowered away from him. It was wonderful to watch.

But the real issue is why did druff ignore mdawg for years but lower the boom on boz?

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I have no idea who Sonatine is or have never read his stuff, but I’m 100% certain he’s not as boring, lame and unfunny as the juvenile fucktard mdog….i mean what 50+ year old man runs around calling himself mdog anyway?…..one that’s trying to get some cock methinks:confused:

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i mean what 50+ year old man runs around calling himself mdog anyway?…..

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Don't forget he also labeled himself The Pope of Las Vegas. It didn't really stick, but that right there tells you what his little story really is about. It is fantasy.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ loves to fight and argue with people. He's been doing it on forums long before he got over to VCT. I don't fall for his victim routine, which frustrates him a lot. As far as I'm concerned, he's just as much a troll as Singer and the other routine trolls here, he just does it in a different way.

He just has a screw loose somewhere, and can't interact normally with people on forums without always starting some kind of drama.

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You are severely mentally ill and need help.

You also don't begin to know how simple you are.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Please tell me that this entire routine of yours is a years-long troll job. At least that I could respect.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Don't you realize everyone clowns on you and those who don't basically do it out of pity or possibly out of some desire to not help mdawg?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

The documented facts about UNKewlJ include that she is a compulsive liar, hypocrite, self loathing bigot, male prostitute and is Pac Islander looking.

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kewlJ is actually the biggest bigot on VCT.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ has been a whiner, a liar, a hypocrite, and a pain in the ass on many occasions

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The entire forum knows you have an issue with pathological lying.

you can't help but insert fibs into your postings

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Why are you still here?

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