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  1. #21
    I feel sorry for Rob sometimes. I trolled him so much people been wised up on all fronts. Redietz is the lone wolf whose credibility is not questioned. Just his EV.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I suggest you familiarize yourself with Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act.

    Section 230 protects online platforms like this one from liability for third-party content posted by their users, allowing them to host content without fear of lawsuits for defamation or other claims.
    free speech is a great thing when it means that anyone can criticize a Government Official or Government Agency without fear of retribution

    but when it means when one person can call another person a male prostitute without any proof at all - slander -

    then it's not a great thing

    it's probably correct that a facilitator such as a forum provider cannot be held legally liable for slander such as this

    but I wouldn't want to be such a facilitator

    I wouldn't feel good about it

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    the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Just out of curiosity what is the allegedly false and injurious claim by KJ?

    It doesn't exactly jump off the page of that first post.
    Apparently, Dietz is upset that I have stated that his wife bought the property or was responsible for the purchase of the property in East Bumble fuck, Tenn.

    A while ago we had a discussion about a professional gambler getting a mortgage. As a professional player in Las Vegas I have been able to get two different mortgages. BUT this is Las Vegas. They understand there are people that make a living at gambling. That is not to say they are just giving mortgages away to anyone that says they gamble for a living. You have to prove that you have won for years. My first mortgage without many years under my belt, I had to put 50% down to get a mortgage.

    So does anybody think other places in the country, least of all East Bumble Fuck Tenn is as progressive with mortgages to gamblers as Las Vegas? Dietz was able to purchase that house because his wife had a good paying steady job at the local university, NOT because he was a successful "tout". And if anyone thinks he paid cash for the house, cash from being a successful tout/gambler, he has never shown any evidence that he made much money. Kim Lee looking at all the records concluded Dietz may have survived, if he had someone supporting him, which he did.

    Now lets just say my opinion, and that is all it was, is 100% wrong. That Bob Dietz, who doesn't seem to have a grasp of EV in relationship to sports betting, somehow made a ton of money and purchased that house. Big deal, my opinion was wrong. You can't sue someone over that on an internet forum.

    But at least Dietz does have the support of Rob Singer, which is funny. You might remember in the discussion about my mortgage years ago, Rob created a sock puppet, Girl Friday (proven by Dan Druff) to claim that no professional gambler could get a mortgage. Rob and his sock puppet were proven wrong. But now flip flopping Rob, wants to take the opposite position...only because it involves me. Rob Singer is the joke that keeps on giving.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    a forum provider cannot be held legally liable for slander
    There are no messages on this forum that can be considered slander.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    And if anyone thinks he paid cash for the house, cash from being a successful tout/gambler, he has never shown any evidence that he made much money.
    When did he (or they) purchase the house?

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    a forum provider cannot be held legally liable for slander
    There are no messages on this forum that can be considered slander.
    of course what you have posted is false
    if someone posted something slanderous about another forum member right at this moment -
    nothing would be done about it
    the remarks would not be moderated
    unless the remarks were about Druff himself and he felt like taking action; as he has done re Boz's posts

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    the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You can't sue someone over that on an internet forum.
    Sure you can.

    To win the lawsuit, plaintiff must prove the statement was false and damaging, and that it was communicated to a third party. The plaintiff must also show that the statement caused harm, such as loss of income or emotional distress.

    Opinion is not defamatory, and you can post and publish opinions so long as you don’t not make untrue statements of fact, which is what you have repeatedly done.

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    of course what you have posted is false
    You don't understand what slander is.

  9. #29
    First it is lame that Redietz, who started the rumor about me being a male prostitute that the trolls have grabbed onto, is crying about sue anyone for saying anything.

    Second, it is an internet forum. I think it is shitty that people lie about someone and their spouse as these trolls do and not just lie, but nasty as they can think of lies. It is very small of them. But it isn't illegal, unless you are physically threatening someone and even that.....?

    So we all have 3 choices. You can ignore such comments. You can fight back, fight fire with fire, but then you get into the whole, wrestle with a pig in the mud scenario, or third, we can walk away from the forum. I have chosen to fight back. You can't win, but there is some level of entertainment and satisfaction in doing so.

    But as soon as people start talking about lawsuits, they are idiots.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    of course what you have posted is false
    You don't understand what slander is.
    okay, I think I get what you are saying

    slander is verbal and libel is written -

    from a legal authority:

    "Defamation is an umbrella term for knowingly publicizing things about another person that aren't true and damage that person's reputation. There are two kinds of defamation:

    Slander is when falsehoods are spread verbally, for example, in an internet video, by talking to people, or in a broadcast speech.

    Libel is when falsehoods are spread in writing, for example, in comments on an internet post or in a newspaper article or blog post."

    so, since what has been posted on this forum was not verbal - it could not be considered slander

    but it still could be considered defamatory


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    the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    of course what you have posted is false
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    You don't understand what slander is.
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    okay, I think I get what you are saying
    slow your roll

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  13. #33
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    But it isn't illegal, unless you are physically threatening someone.
    Defamation is illegal.

    In most U.S. states, defamation is treated as a civil wrong. This means the person who was defamed can sue the person who made the false statement to seek financial compensation (damages) for the harm done to their reputation.

    In some states, defamation is still on the books as a criminal offense.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    #istandwithKJ
    Try this one, inspired by the President.

    #kjisrightabouteverything.
    Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Don't you realize everyone clowns on you and those who don't basically do it out of pity or possibly out of some desire to not help mdawg?
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I feel sorry for Rob sometimes. I trolled him so much people been wised up on all fronts. Redietz is the lone wolf whose credibility is not questioned. Just his EV.
    Seeing that you've gone over the deep end lately.....

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    But it isn't illegal, unless you are physically threatening someone.
    Defamation is illegal.

    In most U.S. states, defamation is treated as a civil wrong. This means the person who was defamed can sue the person who made the false statement to seek financial compensation (damages) for the harm done to their reputation.

    In some states, defamation is still on the books as a criminal offense.
    So I can sue the noodle slurper for lying about me? Bbbbbuuuutttt....he has no money either!

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    But it isn't illegal, unless you are physically threatening someone.
    Defamation is illegal.

    In most U.S. states, defamation is treated as a civil wrong. This means the person who was defamed can sue the person who made the false statement to seek financial compensation (damages) for the harm done to their reputation.

    In some states, defamation is still on the books as a criminal offense.
    So I can sue the noodle slurper for lying about me? Bbbbbuuuutttt....he has no money either!

    Bbbbbbuuuuutttt, everyone here saw your stupid ass in a rig that was FOR SALE, passing it off as your own...even lying on the bed lolololololololololololololololol

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Bbbbbbuuuuutttt, everyone here saw your stupid ass in a rig that was FOR SALE, passing it off as your own...even lying on the bed lolololololololololololololololol
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    The fact that inspector kew couldn't find any million dollar plus RV's and believes the place we bought ours from was "closed" certainly says a lot about his hypothetical abilities.

    Max wasn't shaken? Hmmm....have you EVER seen him go into such a nervous ramble?

    It's you two fools who need to make up history because you both feel insignificant.
    Put your real names up, I dare you. Then sit back and wait to see how I can concoct the past.

    So much genius here.
    I think he was saying that he couldn't find any $1.5million Class-A motor coaches at that camper van chain store you eluded to.
    No nervous anything from me. I can smack you around with facts. You know,,,those simple things that you try to thwart with your bullshit stories.
    I want to say the proper word here is "alluded" -- but in this case I suppose it's accurate as written.
    an organized group of fraudsters.

  20. #40
    You assholes should spare the forum and settle your differences like real men: on the Penn St. University basketball courts.

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