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Those pictures are so tidy.
You are living in that thing?
I don't see any soap, shampoo, sponges or anything personal.
Feels like a model showroom.
I'm sure that isn't the case... you guys just keep everything very tidy.
So darn clean for traveling on the road.
Why would you delete those photos?
Thanks guys!
Monet--we just began our trip and everything's locked away. We weren't planning on stopping for the tire but we were able to stay in it and put the slides out if we wanted. I did turn all the lights on for maximum kew-effect. I'll see if I can get some outside pics up. No we don't live in it. Just some travel and RV parks.
I don't really care.
I know some people actually live like that.
Everything spotless and model perfect.
Makes me a bit jealous sometimes as I find it difficult to keep that pace of cleanliness up.
Who wipes down those windows and do you vacuum the wall/drapes?
How do you clean those rugs?
Who mops or steam mops those floors?
Who cleans all those light bulbs?
Sorry... this is what i think when I see things like this.
Your pictures keep coming on and off lol.
I saved them for you though so don't worry.
Darn thing is so spotless!
Not even a can of coke or bottle of water in the cup holders.
Barely a smudge on anything.
I do see a streak or something on the wood floor behind the driver seat but that's about it!
My Truck is a dust ball after one day of cleaning it inside and out.
These pictures are pissing me off lol.
While we are mostly clean freaks and I'dlike to take the credit, I had a service clean the inside and another washed the outside before this trip. My wife is just too old to be doing that and I don't like doing that. On rigs like these you have to keep them up or else you'll take a shellacking when you sell.
There seems to be an error msg. when I try to upload a few pics of the exterior. It keeps saying to try back later.
If anyone can't wait then if you pm me a text no. or email, then I'll get them to you asap.
That’s what so many of these guys don’t understand. It’s an incredible rig, and NASCAR Drivers have similar units. But some on here say there is no such thing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-season.html
The cleaning is peanuts compared to the fuel while pulling even our new Elantra Sport. I can make it all the way to Boulder without filling up because of the 5mpg and 225 gallon tank. Looking forward to unloading it in Oct/Nov. It's a huge money pit and there ain't no more DU to milk (yet). I like driving a p/u hauling our small Winnebago camper far better.
Uh-oh....NASCAR is an alt-right hate group.
Come on KJ, we need a comment on how Rob is faking these picture. Or are you too good for this site now?
Or are you too busy begging The Wiz to let you back on his “gambling” site where people discuss gambling?
And how pathetic is it to BEG to be left on an Internet forum? Face it, the Wiz should have to apologize to you for taking Norm’s word over yours.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall and to hear the bullshit spun by Singer to get in there. It'd be so funny. Once we got pictures, you knew it'd be something like this. There is one picture with him sitting up front and I think maybe that is a house or something. Nope, it is parked in a professional truck garage with high doors. Can't make this stuff up. He could have at least had a bag of his shit with him and thrown it about. So. clean. Rob strikes me as a total slob.
Did you read this axel? When you travel with an RV, EVERYTHING gets locked up except pillows.
We were in a SHOP getting a new tire. It will arrive in the morning. You think we just happened to run into someone driving a Newell on our way out of state? And let me know where you can rent one like this. Then put up proof. Oh wait!--AP's can say anything and they're expected to automatically be believed. Even if they say they keep their RV's spotless.
We're headed to dinner. You guys keep showing your pain. Kew's seen this only he's still trying to figure out how to make excuses for not driving to Boulder, and now he has to concoct a story or two on how I somehow "ran into" a '11 Newell when not travelling in our '11 Newell.
Can it get any funnier or better than this? :)
Rob did you just take those pictures...yesterday? or were they taken when you first bought it in 2013?
People must be thinking...is this Rob's RV, or is it the inside of an RV for sale?
As far as the lack of personal items...I know when I take pictures of our hotel suites to post on these forums I sometimes take the pictures before the bellman has even come up with our luggage, so that all you might see are a couple of Louis Vuitton valises, or one of my wife's Chanel backpacks. Lack of personal items, especially if Rob took the pics when he first bought the unit, might not mean much either way.
But over all I'd ask him...why did he pay $1.5M for it? I found this video I watched recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZavO2x8ahxU
that goes through a gamut of luxury motorhomes, ranging from a half million to a three million dollar Italian job, and what Rob is sitting in there resembles more of a six hundred thousand job than one costing twice that, or at least, given the lack of technology, not something I'd think would cost $1.5M, or that I'd pay $1.5M for.
Rob's says he's a businessman right? So why would he pay that much for an RV when one costing less than half, especially used, would appear to be equivalent? Or was it just fast money spent fast?
I mean if he won the money like a con man, why did he blow it like a pimp? I didn't teach you to be no pimp.
https://i.imgur.com/mms8k7sl.jpg
Pretty nice, Rob.
What are you, jealous? If you're younger than me, there's no need for that.
In 2012 this rig was $1.5mil out the door with 1600 miles on it. It's ludicrous to guess about it being similar to cheaper models. This tells me you have no familiarity with RV's in general, especially when you and others cannot get that you pack everything away before leaving on any trip, and keeping them spotless before leaving is normal for people who care.
Keep the hurt coming everybody. I knew there'd be another meltdown.
Thanks mickey.
No, I'm leaving it to the others to argue over whether it is really yours or not. When I mentioned the empty hotel suites, I mentioned them by way of saying that just because there is nothing in the RV doesn't mean he doesn't own it.
My point was just from a purely financial standpoint. When I was barely drinking age I'd buy a sports car straight off the dealer's lot brand new. When I got a little older, I'd look for one that was at least a year old, so that someone else took the depreciation hit. That's mostly what I was getting at, and wondering about.
I didn't even know what a a Newell is. There are tons of showrooms and things of this nature. lol. yea, it hurts. Damn Rob finally showed everyone. Living in this thing for 9 years and we get a couple of stiff showroom pictures. "oh my wife just took some snapshots". Now lets see you come up with same one, different outfit or anything else that would suggest you actually own it.
Actually, don't bother, You're special Rob. Wow. You really do own the RV. ;)
This new development is GOAT as fuck. Hard to show outside pictures when it's at a used RV dealership....lol
Episode 6 of
As Grandpa's Dreams Turn
You should have atleast asked them for a bottle of water to put in a cup holder or something:rolleyes:
That's exactly what any RV looks like after hitting the road with 2 grandkids in tow.....lmao
"Max I know I know....you just couldn't find it on those "trustworthy" snoop sites."-Rob Singer
No, but I did find the RV your mug was posing in.
LMAO....I can't stop laughing
Complete with same bedspread. I'm sorry Rob......but the gig is up......again
WISE UP
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/200...1-2-5011338393
The Defense...or Offense of BS(could look at it either way...lol),,,,,now rests my case against this sorry old fraudster.:cool:
Was that enough hurt for you? Or do you want more?
I'm actually pitying you....I think I'll retire from busting you up. I actually like your stories in a crazy old uncle from the basement sort of way.
You really should apologize to Mickey though. You used him like a rubber fuck doll.
Un-Fucking-believable!
Singer you are absolutely pathetic!
The guy went to a dealership, pretending to be a customer, went inside an RV, took pictures and posted them as it was his own. And for anyone even thinking of still giving him the benefit of doubt that maybe it still is his RV and he is the owner who is selling? It isn't even the same year as he claims. :cool:
Mickeycrimm and you others that have been not only supporting this village idiot, but joining him in attacking anyone who challenged his claims, it is long past time to be a man and admit you were played or complicit in this troll.
And yes this proves the double up bug is also the same bullshit! With the RV, he took pictures of an RV he didn't own presenting it as his own.
With the DU bug, he similarly stole a claim he read about, presenting it as his own.
Nothing more to say....There just are no words....what a fucktard!
Kudos to MaxPen, for finally bringing this to an end and putting us all out of this misery. And an honorable mention Kudos to Alan Mendelson. for bringing this to life again, which lead to the interview, which lead to Mike and Dan Druff, two forum owners requesting some sort of proof as the rest of us have been doing for a year. This forced Singer to manufacture some fake evidence, as he often does. You gave him the rope to hang himself and he did, as these idiots always do.
I think I'll have a beer to celebrate. Mickey? want to join me?
addon: I almost forgot Axelwolf. He played a bigger part behind the scenes than most realize. Sort of like Axel provided the actual rope. :cool: Again, job well done to all.
What hurts is when you try to use a very exclusive item in an elaborate public lie. The problems with a Newell is that it is rarer than a Rolls Royce. At their peak production only 40 something were produced in a year. I found the listing for the one you were posing in, taking all of about 15 minutes of my time.
"It hurts, doesn't it." -Rob Singer
At my age and condition I won't even change a flat tire on a car. Last summer I had a tire blow out. I immediately called a towing service. Told them I don't need to be towed just come change the tire. What good is money if you don't use it to make life easy on yourself.
I laugh my ass off every time I pass a manuel car wash.
I am sure Rob has a perfectly sound explanation.
I was the first to point out how this RV looked Model Perfect.
No soap, sponges, shampoo, personal items...etc etc.
Rob quickly rebutted how he and his wife just got on the road so everything was locked up.
He told us he was getting a tire change and couldn't figure out how to upload the outside pictures.
Seems Totally Believable!
Just because my House, Truck and Cars look lived in and his are spotless doesn't mean he is lying.
Does it?
Penn, you're a piece of shit maggot. No one controls me. No one makes my mind up for me, except me. I call every motherfucking shot. Meanwhile, peer pressure controls your punk ass. You take your marching orders from axels fucking crowd and suck KJ's dick. Fucking grow up, assclown.
AssholeWolf is an Evildoer for sure but let's be fair to MaxPen.
Many stories about AssholeWolf losing TITOs and other shenanigans.
From what I know, MaxPen works solo for the most part.
He may team up here and there but he runs his own show.
I not only have this information from the net but from people who actually know him as well.
I understand you got to be King Troll when Trolled but MaxPen is one of the good guys if good guys exist in Vegas.
Which they really do not as I am sure you know living in Vegas for many years.
MaxPen can't be very bad as he is Armed to the Teeth and is strongly Conservative from what I know.
Pretty good at what AssholeWolf likes to call Grey.
Which is complete Bullshit... no such thing as Grey!
I get it.
They Troll You and You Troll Harder!!
One thing though.
kewlJ is not a Man so he can't Man Up on that offer.
Impossible for him to be Man Enough!
I do plenty of bottom feeding myself.
They say a Leopard can't change his spots.
I enjoy it when you tear into AW though.
Looking forward to more of that!
MDawg has AW pegged down pretty good actually.
Send him over some Captain Morgan!
This Forum is Great!!
How the Fuck does Noodles Redietz not like it here anymore???
Guess he just likes to follow MendleBread around.
Soon they will all be reunited with kewlJ when Mike lifts his ban at WoV.
Now we just need LarryS to get his ban lifted at WoV to complete the cycle.
I have to admit the pics don't look good for Rob. Let's see if he has an explanation. Since he is traveling perhaps he could put up outside pics from different locations.
The biggest problem is the Red Line on the Wall.
You can see it is the exact same wall and red line in the advertisement and the picture with Rob in the Driver Seat.
Same Grey Paint from the Red Line to the Floor.
Looks like the same floor border at the wall as well.
I had nothing to do with MaxPen's investigation or what he does. We are friends and he's a super good guy, helpful and very trustworthy. Sometimes we do things together and share a little information. I have absolutely nothing to do with how he views, thinks of, or communicates with Rob. Nor does anybody else I work with. Most of the guys I do stuff with care absolutely nothing about Rob or what he does, they barely know anything about Rob, they don't even participate on the forums much at all. I would say 85% of the advantage players don't even know who rob singer is.
The beautiful lady has sung... THE BIG HURT.
https://youtu.be/o-tGvinvid4[/QUOTE]
When we get back on the road again in a few hours, I'll be glad to know I caused some of the geniuses here to come up with even more conspiracy theories. That's not even the same exterior paint as ours.
This is exactly what was expected--it was too much to handle so reality had to be changed. Like no rig builder has the same floor plan in more than one rig. It's why there've been no takers for Boulder and every excuse will be made to stay away from Phx. in the fall. Maybe this should be the first true bet on this forum.....
To me, this was the biggest tell. Not only the same bed covering, but the same decorative pillows too.
It’s hard to find decorative pillows that match between any two stores, even of the same chain.
What’s the odds of Rob buying exactly the same decorative pillows as in the RV that’s for sale? It’s got to be close to 1 in a million.
Same exact floor rugs too!
I guess this model just comes standard with those pillows, rugs and bedspread.
I know these things must depreciate but I wouldn't think it would lose 800k on resale.
Of course I don't know much about RVs in general.
I guess it's all coincidental.
Same exact walls and paint.
RV is selling in Phoenix Arizona where Rob resides.
etc etc etc.
Even worse than the paint on the walls is the flowers in the glass case near the dining table.
Same exact flowers in Robs pictures and the for sale listing.
How do you explain that?
You drive down the road with flowers for decoration but not one personal item?
I dunno but I enjoy hearing the rebuttal.
According to this website the depreciation is 60% for 10 years so I guess 800k or 66% is in the right ballpark.
That sure is one ugly investment.
I guess it makes sense if you have monster cash flow and want to buy toys.
https://camperreport.com/rv-deprecia...bly-want-know/
Rob Singer is the GOAT
Just noticed--max put up pics of a 2008--ours is a 2011. And our exterior paint scheme is different than the older one. WhenI figure out how to get that pic out of my phone I'll post it. What will you people say then....what will the next theory be? And by the way, that exact interior/color scheme was available for 5 years back then. The bedspread and pillows are the original ones.
The lengths you fools go to just because you don't want to believe something is funny.
Keep wasting away your time. And meet me in Phx. when it's on consignment if you REALLY want to feel stupid.
And wise up.
Whomever chose those pillows and bedding has really bad taste. I think your way low on the millions to one. Nevermind the exact same bedding.
THE INTERIOR
Designing the interior of your Newell is similar to choosing the decor and furnishings of a fine, custom home. Because you have so many materials to choose from, your Newell will be a unique expression of your personality and style.
Our interior decorator will help you select the materials for your coach interior. You can choose cabinetry that is either a solid color or wood-grain laminate, or a rich, genuine wood veneer. You will also select coordinating fabrics, leather colors and fine carpets, all of which are of the highest quality.
For all the super sleuths VIN Number:
1N9458X8881011220
This is beyond desparate. I'm really feeling for you. Let's get to know Newell Motor Coach
https://www.motorhomesoftexas.com/bl...-newell--18598
In there best year only 40 something were produced. In 2017 only 26 total were produced. You can find this out by Googling "How many Newell Motor Coaches are produced per year."
No 2 Newells are even close to being the same. Let alone having the exact same squeegee in the exact same shower in the exact same place...... lmao
In a few more days not even Mickey will be buying your BS.
I really didn’t want to post anymore here. The nonsense got to ridiculous here, believe or not even for me. But I can’t resist throwing in my 2 cents on this subject.
ROB, do yourself a favor here and just stop it. I’ve witnessed many fools in my day. But I’m pretty certain I’ll go to my grave knowing you were the king of fools. Other than a couple of Democrat Politicians, I just can’t believe anyone could possibly top your nonsense.
As much as I approved of your attacks on bullshit forum AP’s back in the day when you alleged you were someone else, I’m now embarrassed to have backed you on any of them.
The recent phony jackpot picture without naming the casino, followed by the alleged DUB with no proof, the sudden Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde personality changes, I became convinced you officially entered the Bullshitter’s Hall of Fame. This RV clown show put it over the top for me.
Take all of your cash and goodies and make a run for it. If I were you, I would consider a name change regardless whatever it might really be in case someone actually really knows the truth.
Both Rob and the owners of that other RV had the original flooring changed out to the exact same new flooring. The current owners actually owned a bunch of RV lots and had two Newell's. There has been three previous owners. Other than the basic floor plan, no two are alike, well, other than these two of course.
Singer you're a fucking piece of shit and I'm going to lead the parade of people pissing all over your grave. You will rot in hell and will come back to earth as an NFL cup used exclusively by the front line of the team with the worst record. And in the off season you'll be a bowl used for slurping noodle soup from at 99-cent Chinese soup kitchens. Fuck you.
MaxPen, you mentioned in an earlier post that it took you 15 minutes to find out the truth. That's the part which is baffling to me. Somehow that does not follow the storyline of Rob Singer's secrecy lifestyle. Considering his history he could not have made it easier to discover, Singer does not work that way. The story is not complete.
I for some reason always want to think 'he can't be that dumb, surely he knew this would happen..' and thats what I am going to believe about Coach Newell. Mr Newell knew you guys would catch on 100%, he just wanted to get a reaction.
I'm using the new name Mr Newell in order that he might escape the shame of his name.
When I woke up very early this morning, I had no idea that pictures were posted late yesterday. Both MaxPen and Monet were all over this. I did not even get a chance to take out my decoder ring. The posts were so fast and furious that I completely missed that MaxPen had supplied a link to the used RV website.
Regardless, I decided to challenge myself and see how long it would take my to find a similar RV based on interior RV photographs. Not exactly the same, but similar. I could not believe that I found the exact same vehicle on the first website, 4th vehicle on the list. I did review the interiors of the first three vehicles. Total time taken to verify similar RV interiors, 3 minutes and 7 seconds.
Finding a similar RV is different than proving that these two RV's are the same vehicle. Yes, the pillows and bedspread are an easy giveaway. Yes, Monet went out of the box (and out of the vehicle) to view the exterior wall and red painted line. I could add simple other similarities such as the ornate "grated" picture sculptures to the left of the bed and kitchen sink. Or he curtains above the couch.
For myself, the picture of the shower "bothered me". Yes, just like jackpot picture. The two pictures of the shower were taken at almost the same angle. My eyes kept going to the glare reflecting off the shower walls from the overhead lights. Just because the lights give off the same glare at the same part of the wall, that is not unusual. Then it hit me. Look at the tile. The tile is in the same exact location for the two vehicles. That is almost impossible. Then to have the second wall blend into the back wall in the same exact locations throughout the whole height of the wall is difficult. Not convinced, then look at the two towel racks. View how these racks are positioned within the grout lines. They are identical. No need to mention how the the hand held shower line is in the same exact position (far right of screen). BTW, kudos to Bob21 on the squeegee.
The picture of the sink/couch area also "bothered me". Once again, I cannot argue about vehicles having the same equipment, but I can about the workmanship. Look at the wood floor. Check out the fourth board counting away from the couch. The outside seam of that fourth board is not joined correctly (tight) to the next board. It gives the appearance of a dark seam. This dark seam runs from the tile in front of the sink to the front of the vehicle. Review the picture of Rob in the driver's seat. If you look at the floor, you can see this seam. The other pictures show this seam near the sink. Ironically, this wood seam matches up to a horizontal grout line on the tile. Another oddity for two separate vehicles to have.
I hope I did not bore anyone with this analytical approach.
Well we got the new tire that's a fake put on, on the RV that doesn't exist, and we're finally getting back on the road with grandchildren that are make believe, headed towards family in Minn. that'smade up using welfare and food stamps for the fuel.
It's odd how inadequate and threatened max has to feel for some reason compared to me. He must be more like kew than anyone imagines. Anyway, I'm inviting you max to come out to Phoenix when I put the Newell up for consignment in Gilbert. I will even pay for your flights from and to wherever you live. You can probably even make something false up about that too....
In the meantime, keep showing ignorance about these RV's and have your fun with all this while you can. There's plenty of material being manufactured. Grout, lines, showers? Everyone's an Adam Schiff. And Alan, don't fret--the casinos will be open soon enuf so you can continue pouring your fractured life away into the poker machines at Red Rock and Suncoast. I'll check back when we get to the Lake Tahoe area in 3-5 weeks.
Edit: Just saw Alan's verbage above. I guess that's just a small example of why all his marriages failed.
Well, it looks like that was handled…handily by the others.
As far as Rob’s mention that it seems beyond unlikely that a 2008 and a 2011 would not only have the exact same interior and color scheme but also the exact same bedspread and pillows…which is to say anyway that Rob KEPT the same bedspread for seven years now?
I am sure that anyone who wants to spend the time could find some unique item in both Rob’s posts and the 2008 For Sale Coach that match beyond any possible explanation other than that they are the same coach. Someone already mentioned some flowers that are in both pictures? And on the WOV Singer thread some newcomer appeared out of nowhere to post something about how you may see the same for sale 1996 Prevue through the window of Rob’s pictures as is posted for sale at the website of Arizona Luxury Coach LLC MaxPen found.
That 2008, MaxPen found, which, let’s face it, IS the same one Rob is posing in, is $399K today. When I mentioned the “lack of technology” in the motorhome Rob pictured, I was wondering why he’d have ever paid a million and a half for something like that, which it did appear to me older than 2011, due to the lack of high tech screens on the dashboard.
Here’s a 2016 Newell for sale today three years old
https://www.newellcoach.com/default....OwnedInventory
$899K or best offer!
Which was what I was getting at when I asked why Rob would pay $1.5M in 2013 for a two year old coach, when today, you may buy one that is a few years old for about half of that. It stands to reason that in 2013, if Rob had bought a Newell, that he could have found a great one for closer to $600K, especially given that he was already supposedly willing to buy one that was used. This didn’t make sense to me, even before MaxPen’s investigative work.
At the end of the day, I think that even lies must be somewhat grounded in truth. I think it unlikely that Rob doesn’t even own a motorhome, as he keeps talking about traveling in one and conceding that he owns a motorhome and not a real home. Why he chose to present pictures of this one for sale instead of his own, at the moment only he knows the answer to that.