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One last thing Kew, this is the last time I will respond to you.

I only made an effort to find you because of your insistence I was toll. No need to rehash it, but

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Seedvalue, I don't want to fight with you (never did), nor rehash this, but this isn't exactly the way this went down. I didn't insist anything. I speculated you were Toll based on information from what I considered a reliable source, who told me you were Toll or associated with him. I am not going to say who and throw anyone under the bus. I said it and I take and took responsibility. And when Dan Druff stepped forward and confirmed that you were not Toll, I acknowledged that and apologized to you....several times.

I don't know who you are or what you make or have made. And I don't care. I don't say that to be dismissive. I don't measure myself against others, what others make or do. I do my thing, have my goals, and am very happy with where I am and what I have accomplished. In another month, it will be 20 years.

I am sort of an introvert type person and solo play suits me well. Even when I have partnered with one or two close people that I trust, I am just better suited for solo type play. That is my thing.

Seems to be a change in you in the past few days. I don't know if you are going through something, like a medical issue....I hope not. But whatever. I wish you well and happiness.

Seed: If you depart and do not return, so be it; you're right, this shit really doesn't matter.

What matters is the people we surround ourselves with and how we treat one another; online forums are basically an escape valve.

If what you said above about your career and family is correct then yeah, it seems you did well for yourself.

Oh, I'm not envious about your cock: I simply don't believe you; but even if it were true, WGAS?

It don't mean nothin'.

Don't kid yourself. Your family will take the money, and, run. Coins in old cigar boxes. Ha.

As for SV, I'll never get over people who think that they aren't anything unless something really big.

Must be a hell of a daily existence, the tossing and turning over who believes you on anonymous gambling forums that you don't even own. One fake soul-searching schizophrenic episode after another.

People who didn't truly develop themselves, or their minds.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

I'm unwilling to discuss private conversations, but I will say that I have reason to believe that SeedValue is legitimately an advantage player. This should not be taken as an absolute endorsement of ALL of his claims (it isn't) or an endorsement that people should work with him (I've never worked with him and don't know what he's like off-forum), but he does know some things that only someone who knows what he's doing would know.

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Well, here's a quandary for you, Mission. If you have someone who "does know some things that only someone who knows what he's doing would know" who also DOES NOT know some things that anyone who knows what they're doing would know, what do you do with that? I mean the question sincerely, because I buy all the Seedvalue spiels about non-sports "AP" play. Of course, I know crap about most forms of "AP" play, so why wouldn't I buy them? But then he says some bizarro stuff, like when he didn't know prostitution was illegal in LV, and it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.

It's not like I'm looking to debunk Seedvalue. He just says some things that are eye-poppingly wrong, and because I've actually spent 50 years betting sports, and because I spent 20-plus years traipsing all over LV a hundred days a year, I'm evidently more aware of his completely off kilter comments when he makes them. That whole spiel of his about not liking to bet sports because it's behind a computer and he's not hands-on raping the casino cash boxes in person -- I mean, LOL. C'mon, man. Do your business in person! How hard is that? It's not like you're more likely to be banned/restricted because you give the casinos some facetime. You may be LESS likely to be banned/restricted betting sports if you do things hands on.

Some of the Seedvalue spiels are bizarrely off, and I'm not talking about the dong references. And it's not because anybody quizzed him; he just inserts discordant crap because he doesn't know it's discordant. He makes assumptions about sports betting that are in line with assumptions about other types of gambling, but his sports betting assumptions happen to be not quite right. He presumes things that shouldn't be presumed, and because those presumptions line up with various forms of "AP" play, most people buy it.

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Once again, I'm not endorsing him or stating that everything that he has ever said is completely factual. I'm simply suggesting that, based on private conversations, a non-zero amount of what he claims (and I don't even know as to the extent of those being true) seems valid. I've never met the guy in person, done business with him, etc...

Anyway, all I said is that I believe that SeedValue is legitimately an advantage player. I didn't even present that as a statement of fact, but rather, one of opinion.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

I'm unwilling to discuss private conversations, but I will say that I have reason to believe that SeedValue is legitimately an advantage player. This should not be taken as an absolute endorsement of ALL of his claims (it isn't) or an endorsement that people should work with him (I've never worked with him and don't know what he's like off-forum), but he does know some things that only someone who knows what he's doing would know.

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I got mad respect for your knowledge bro. Other then that one thing with the con. You sometimes slip in dark sentences in your writing about death or not caring about shit. I know you don’t believe in God and that’s cool everyone has their beliefs. Live life for your family they care they are the reason. Sometimes when I would read your stuff it seemed like you were depressed. Idk maybe I’m wrong anyway just saying you helped many wiry your writing even tho I wished at times you stfu.

O and I’ve never recruited from these boards you literally are the only person I’ve ever offered anything to. I like to recruit and build my own. No bad habits to deal with that way. Teams make millions in this game in my opinion. Time is the problem we all need to deal with teams help solve that problem. Idk l

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Thank you for saying so; that's very kind of you. I also appreciate you making the offer you did. As you know, after our private conversations, I'd probably accept the same offer today. I declined mostly out of paranoia and also not wanting to be blamed if things went in the toilet on the play, stuff getting killed, etc...you know the deal.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

So the main game payback is: 8.3333/16.63158 = 50.1%.

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I'm not a Keno player. What happens over the other about 16 tries, given a win of about 8 units over about 17 tries? Lose $0.75 over the other 16 tries?

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You'll average missing the 2-spot 15.63158 games out of 16.63158 games. You'll average hitting the 2-spot once every 16.63158 games....which pays 8.3333 for 1.

8.3333/16.63158 = 50.1%.

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Mission, while you're here, can you explain Mickey's explanation above?

I guess that another reason to have mathematicians explain stuff is that the explanations become universal. I don't know that he's correct, but, I do know that no one explains anything, that way.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

Once again, I'm not endorsing him or stating that everything that he has ever said is completely factual. I'm simply suggesting that, based on private conversations, a non-zero amount of what he claims (and I don't even know as to the extent of those being true) seems valid. I've never met the guy in person, done business with him, etc...

Anyway, all I said is that I believe that SeedValue is legitimately an advantage player. I didn't even present that as a statement of fact, but rather, one of opinion.

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"a non-zero amount of what he claims seems valid".

That is quite a glowing endorsement. :rolleyes:

Yeah, Mission is caught between the Wizard garbage, and the new thus place that he works for.

How anyone could take SV for anything but a sick(?) fool, given the vacuous stuff he spewed here and there, for years, is beyond me. Maybe, jdog. Ha.

And yeah, sure, Mission146 is another gambling genius (because SV said so, and, versa).


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I'm not a Keno player. What happens over the other about 16 tries, given a win of about 8 units over about 17 tries? Lose $0.75 over the other 16 tries?

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You'll average missing the 2-spot 15.63158 games out of 16.63158 games. You'll average hitting the 2-spot once every 16.63158 games....which pays 8.3333 for 1.

8.3333/16.63158 = 50.1%.

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Mission, while you're here, can you explain Mickey's explanation above?

I guess that another reason to have mathematicians explain stuff is that the explanations become universal. I don't know that he's correct, but, I do know that no one explains anything, that way.

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What is there to explain? While that's not the way I would have done it, the conclusion is clearly that the two-spot base return is 50.1%, approximately.

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You'll average missing the 2-spot 15.63158 games out of 16.63158 games. You'll average hitting the 2-spot once every 16.63158 games....which pays 8.3333 for 1.

8.3333/16.63158 = 50.1%.

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Mission, while you're here, can you explain Mickey's explanation above?

I guess that another reason to have mathematicians explain stuff is that the explanations become universal. I don't know that he's correct, but, I do know that no one explains anything, that way.

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What is there to explain? While that's not the way I would have done it, the conclusion is clearly that the two-spot base return is 50.1%, approximately.

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Does that mean that that game is positive EV, to begin?

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Yeah, Mission is caught between the Wizard garbage, and the new thus place that he works for.

How anyone could take SV for anything but a sick(?) fool, given the vacuous stuff he spewed here and there, for years, is beyond me. Maybe, jdog. Ha.

And yeah, sure, Mission146 is another gambling genius (because SV said so, and, versa).


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I don't think he said, 'Genius' and nor would I consider myself a genius. I'm somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to gambling math and general advantage play. I'm capable of figuring out the expected value of some plays that others aren't, but I'd hardly consider myself top-tier in that regard. Anything that would require a unique computer simulation (or computer math) is totally beyond me because I don't know the first thing about programming.

For example, if you had a highly specific angle on a very complicated game, let's say Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em, the best that I could probably do is estimate your EV from the return charts while assuming no change to strategy. If you wanted a new optimal strategy to maximize EV, then I would either be unable to do it, or alternatively, it would be so time consuming that I couldn't justify doing it for free. Why free? I've never charged anyone for math work and don't plan to do so.

What makes keno plays easier is that there's no change to strategy aside from it might be better to play a four spot than all others, depending on the game in question, or whatever the case. It's pure probability determination with fewer variables, such as a player deciding to do one thing as opposed to another.

If SV thinks I'm a, 'Gambling genius,' and I don't think he does, then he's way overrating my abilities.

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Mission, while you're here, can you explain Mickey's explanation above?

I guess that another reason to have mathematicians explain stuff is that the explanations become universal. I don't know that he's correct, but, I do know that no one explains anything, that way.

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What is there to explain? While that's not the way I would have done it, the conclusion is clearly that the two-spot base return is 50.1%, approximately.

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Does that mean that that game is positive EV, to begin?

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No. Crimm's other post detailed that it's not. I think the base return was 90% and change, or something.

I recall that you wrote that you do this stuff for the money. And, that SV wrote, loosely speaking, that you could clean up if you cared about the money, how "sharp" you are. So, it just seems, to me, that he really doesn't understand what the word, sharp, means.

Where did Mickey calculate the return of 90%? It makes sense that the 50.1% becomes part of another calculation, but, not without considering the amount lost while waiting for the 2 numbers to hit.

That we're let not only to Mickey's word about the overall result of, say, $500 a day, but, also to that of his very calculations. So far, no comment, from him either, about spuriously claiming that Uknowme's play was a straight-up 216% play.

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I recall that you wrote that you do this stuff for the money. And, that SV wrote, loosely speaking, that you could clean up if you cared about the money, how "sharp" you are. So, it just seems, to me, that he really doesn't understand what the word, sharp, means.

Where did Mickey calculate the return of 90%? It makes sense that the 50.1% becomes part of another calculation, but, not without considering the amount lost while waiting for the 2 numbers to hit.

That we're let not only to Mickey's word about the overall result of, say, $500 a day, but, also to that of his very calculations. So far, no comment, from him either, about spuriously claiming that Uknowme's play was a straight-up 216% play.

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I do advantage play and write for the money; everyone does any job that they do for the money, though I don't consider the advantage play aspect a 'job,' per se. Some would say that writing isn't a job. If what those people mean is that it doesn't produce anything, then I'd have to agree with them.

In any event, that's different from calling me a, 'Genius.'

Anyway, you'll forgive me, but this is a pointless conversation for me to have. My articles are out there and my over ten year posting history is out there. If you think I'm a genius, you're wrong, but that's fine. If you think I have more gambling knowledge than the average person, by now, I would sure the fuck hope so. If you think I'm a blithering idiot, then that's also fine.

If we're arguing about some specific factual point such that I'm definitely right and you're arguing with me for no reason, then not only will I prove myself right, but I'll be a condescending asshole while I do. If we disagree about a point and you try to poke holes in my arguments politely, then you will get the same politeness in kind. (There are a few exceptions, people for whom I have permanently lost all patience, but you're not one of them.)

As far as being rich if I wanted to be, I have no idea---never tried it and don't really care. Could I, 'Get rich,' with a starting bankroll of 100k or if I was willing to put in the time and dedication to amass a bankroll of 100k? I would say that I likely have enough knowledge and ability to figure out angles (on top of the stuff I already know) to do so, but there would still be the matter of my risk-averse tendencies, even if I had the motivation, which I don't.

Also, the most successful advantage players...at least, when it comes to guys doing promos, cards and machine play...spend a lot of time in casinos. I mean, a lot of time. In many cases, well in excess of forty hours per week. I would say that you'd either have to have a true passion for being in casinos and gambling, or alternatively, be a gambling addict that just happens to know how to feed the addiction profitably---your choice.

For me, in order to make big bank, the gambling itself would become a job, as it does for anyone. I don't like the actual being in casinos/gambling aspect enough to want it to be a full-time job. It seems quite a miserable way to live, but that's just my opinion. I will say that I think Crimm has a setup that I could at least tolerate, if not enjoy; you hop around from place to place (of which there are many), get in and get out. There's truly nothing worse, at least in my opinion, than being on one play, in one casino, for a half a day or more. Even if you run better than EV, you always leave asking yourself if such a miserable experience was worth it. It's also kind of like that on any play where you lose money, as well, even if the EV is there. If there's one thing I absolutely hate, it's losing...you have to live with it though.

Mickey calculated his Video Keno play and explained it, in detail, over a few posts. If you have another specific question (like the 50.1%) feel free to ask. I'm not going to re-explain everything that he already explained; if you want an aspect of it clarified, then just ask the question.

I see kewl doesn't try to deny the picture.

Mission. Thanks for the explanation. I thought that I would familiarize myself with one of Mickey's plays, but, I'm not going through hoops to figure it out. Nor does it appear that anyone will. Regardless, it seems as though he has boxed himself into the same stale routine, without even any monetary growth potential. Years ago, I likened it to going through a lot of pay phones to look for quarters. The day that he dies is the same day that whatever he thinks he's doing, it will end in his tracks, without anyone to post about it on equally dead gambling forums.

Another of Einstein's quotes had to do with repeating the same thing, but expecting a different result. You guys are just grinding yourselves into the ground. Won't have to bury youze. Ha.

Same as SV. The guy who made every one he knew into millionaires, but, never gave away a single play.

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I thought that I would familiarize myself with one of Mickey's plays, but, I'm not going through hoops to figure it out. Nor does it appear that anyone will.

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I thought about turning on the lights, but who could possibly figure out how to operate the switch?

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Originally Posted by 1Hit1der

How anyone could take SV for anything but a sick(?) fool, given the vacuous stuff he spewed here and there, for years

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I think most around here would say the same about you. Are you really clueless enough to not know that??

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Mission. Thanks for the explanation. I thought that I would familiarize myself with one of Mickey's plays, but, I'm not going through hoops to figure it out. Nor does it appear that anyone will. Regardless, it seems as though he has boxed himself into the same stale routine, without even any monetary growth potential. Years ago, I likened it to going through a lot of pay phones to look for quarters. The day that he dies is the same day that whatever he thinks he's doing, it will end in his tracks, without anyone to post about it on equally dead gambling forums.

Another of Einstein's quotes had to do with repeating the same thing, but expecting a different result. You guys are just grinding yourselves into the ground. Won't have to bury youze. Ha.

Same as SV. The guy who made every one he knew into millionaires, but, never gave away a single play.

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You don't have to go through hoops; if there's something in his series of posts you don't understand, then ask a question and I'll be happy to answer. I'm simply choosing not to reexplain the entire play from scratch when I think he explained it in a clearly understandable way the first time. Even if the no monetary growth potential is true, most people do their jobs in life without any significant monetary growth potential.

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I thought that I would familiarize myself with one of Mickey's plays, but, I'm not going through hoops to figure it out. Nor does it appear that anyone will.

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I thought about turning on the lights, but who could possibly figure out how (---> who) to operate the switch?

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Thanks, again, DP. I was just waiting for the "dope" of this thread, Jdog, to rear his ugly head, again, right after your latest post, about who has the mental capacity to operate the light switch.

This time, by removing the letters V, C, and T, instead of ensuring they are in the anagram solution from before, at https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post171777 . To yield an even better rendering of my avatar, which DP was so gracious to provide free of charge.

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I thought that I would familiarize myself with one of MiCkey's plays but I'm not going Through hoops to figure it out. Nor does it appear that anyone will.

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---> A dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope.

https://anagram-solver.net/Originall...l?partial=true


Anyway, it makes sense that with the money, then buy the dope, unless it's an internet "dope", which, I guess, is the reason that MDawg hangs around. Internet dopes like the ones at VCT can't be bought.

I think that that's (our resident legal fiend) MrV in the middle, preceded by ex-member, but, still crazy "transmission" Blackhole (back to life on the outside), followed by psychotic Seedvalue (who still doesn't know that he's coming, or going). Ha.



I think that a promotion to "Anagram Man" is in order for the DP. Just substitute that for "Rubber-band Man". Good going, DP!

https://youtu.be/KSMVflSBKx8

This weed sure gives me the munchies.

Hmmmm...what's in the pantry...

Ah ha!

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Where did Mickey calculate the return of 90%? It makes sense that the 50.1% becomes part of another calculation, but, not without considering the amount lost while waiting for the 2 numbers to hit.

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It's pretty clear to me that you don't understand gambling math. Everyone else understood what I wrote. But some amazingly simple math is going over your head.

You are asking what happens on the games where you don't hit the two-spot. Obviously, you lose one unit per everyone of those games. The payoff is 8.3333 units for hitting the 2-spot. The probability of hitting the 2-spot is 16.63158 games.

To determine the payback percentage you divide 8.3333 units (the payoff) by 16.63158 units (the probability).

8.3333/16.63158 = 50.1%

The games you miss the 2-spot are accounted for in the equation.

The 50.1% is just one component of the play. You left out the other two components, the Hit Five Meter and the Hit Four Meter. They are an integral part of the play and the advantage is created in the Hit Five Meter by ploppie action. When they run the meter up to $222 or higher then walk....I come along, find it, then sit down and play it off.

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I see kewl doesn't try to deny the picture.

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because you and your trolling is a joke. Not even to be taken seriously anymore. Congrats on that.

So in reading the discussion here with Mission, did SV contact mission recruiting him? Thats what it looks like. That doesn't appear to be against any forum rules. Just wondering?

Is that what SV's time here was about? Recruiting some people that he can help turn into millionaires? :D We all know that these "teams" need people. Need new people as they cycle and use up members.

I really don't care. Just an observation. Mission is certainly smart enough to make his own decision on something like that.

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Yeah, Mission is caught between the Wizard garbage, and the new thus place that he works for.

How anyone could take SV for anything but a sick(?) fool, given the vacuous stuff he spewed here and there, for years, is beyond me. Maybe, jdog. Ha.

And yeah, sure, Mission146 is another gambling genius (because SV said so, and, versa).


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These details will probably Dox me but at this stage of my life and current health it really doesn’t matter. You continue to question my intelligence, and motivation because I joke around on a non serious dusty message Board. One I only participate in because of my respect for Dans integrity.

I may not have been the prodigy you were as a kid. However I did reasonable well all things considered. I earned a Associates degree from a junior college in History before transferring to UMD where I completed a BA in finance. I earned my master in applied mathematics at a school in the north east. I started playing online poker during this time. I hardly finished my masters, and only did so because I promised my late step father I would. I made enough money playing online that I felt I didn’t really need to stay in school. I assure you I understand all the math needed to gamble. I just don’t feel the need to flex online or teach anyone anything. This was not how I was brought up in the advantage gambling world. I don’t teach anyone that I did not bring in from the beginning

My first encounter with Dan was playing high stakes limit holdem online, before I switched to all NL. Dan and guys like bicycleKick were clearly better players then me. I was always the one who jumped into the new games being offered for the first mover advantage. I did very well in the early days of online. By the time I switched to advantage gambling online was much harder and it was more of a job. Advantage gambling was fun new and exciting. I already had a large enough bankroll and good mentors who I will not name but are now in their mid 60s. Some have passed away, but I greatly appreciate everything they taught me. I eventually branched out and set out to build my own team. Originally everyone I recruited was from the poker world. Eventually I stopped recruiting people with gambling backgrounds because they often came with baggage.

I still run with 4 of the original guys from my first team but mostly recruit a certain type of person. Plus we all have families, and second generation members now participate. Yes we all have been databased thrown out, raided, arrested and everything in between over the last 20 some years by casinos. We have utilized Multiple name changes, ID, mask everything to continue to stay in the game. That’s just part of advantage gambling. Keep in mind we are not going after small scores or looking to play BJ earning 70k a year in Vegas like Kew. So guys like him don’t understand the level of complexity involved. I’m not about to explain anything in detail but guys like Axel , and Dan are aware of the different levels in this world. It’s not for everyone that’s a fact.

Anyway brother you keep on posting these Zodiac Ciphers online. I’m
Sure there’s some hidden meaning in all those number and code. If that brings you joy keep it up. Laugher is the best medicine and probably the only reason I participated here over the last few years. Funny shit

Lastly I don’t care or what or need anyone to believe my story. I will die mostly anonymous to the gambling world. A fake IP or profile perhaps someone has crossed my path in real life from here. Chances are it was nice middle aged black man minding his own business, or Asian depending on what part of the country I was in. In any event no one here matters in my real life , although guys like Mickey, Axel, Mission, and Dan I greatly respect.

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So in reading the discussion here with Mission, did SV contact mission recruiting him? Thats what it looks like. That doesn't appear to be against any forum rules. Just wondering?

Is that what SV's time here was about? Recruiting some people that he can help turn into millionaires? :D We all know that these "teams" need people. Need new people as they cycle and use up members.

I really don't care. Just an observation. Mission is certainly smart enough to make his own decision on something like that.

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Incorrect sir

Read my last post

There was no recruiting my team had left his area of the country to pursue another opportunity. The play was over and there was some ok money left to get. I offered it to him and told him if he was interested when he was done we would settle up in person because I don’t do online money transactions. He eventually declined was not a big deal to me because the money was not going to be collected by us. Not because we were 86ed as I’ve been back to this place since. His reputation is the only reason I offered. You miss understand buddy, once again you have no experience working with legit professional stand up guys with integrity. This is clear because you have a bad opinion of teams. I don’t disagree with your opinion on most teams as we definitely are the exception. My word and integrity in gambling has always meant more then money. That’s how I roll.

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These details will probably Dox me but at this stage of my life and current health it really doesn’t matter.

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Sorry to read you confirm this health situation, seedvalue. Hope it works out for the best for you.

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These details will probably Dox me but at this stage of my life and current health it really doesn’t matter.

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Sorry to read you confirm this health situation, seedvalue. Hope it works out for the best for you.

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It’s all good , I’m at peace

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These details will probably Dox me but at this stage of my life and current health it really doesn’t matter.

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Sorry to read you confirm this health situation, seedvalue. Hope it works out for the best for you.

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It’s all good , I’m at peace

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Doc said my big cock gives me a non zero chance of a good outcome

How big is monet's cock?

Let's get to the important stuff.
This bragging about gambling winnings is getting old.

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These details will probably Dox me but at this stage of my life and current health it really doesn’t matter.

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Sorry to read you confirm this health situation, seedvalue. Hope it works out for the best for you.

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It’s all good , I’m at peace

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That is it. You just give up? Resign yourself to what the doctors say? :confused:

If a tenth of what you have claimed is true at even 1% of what you claim to have earned, you should fight until your last breath to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

While I am grateful for advances in modern medicine and am probably alive today because of a medical device and technique unavailable not long ago, If I found myself in the postion you are indicating you are in, I would immediately begin to explore some possibilities outside of the accepted "modern medicine".

I would start with a natural type plant based diet. Meat is poison. And all the chemicals in processing of most foods and meats are poison. And the greatest poison of all is sugar. It isn't just that sugar makes people fat. It is literally poison. And the Government knows it and has known it for decades. As our dependence on sugar has grown over the last 70 years, so has disease and occurrences of cancer. Inflammation is the cause of most disease and illness, including making conditions right for the abnormal growth of cells that becomes cancer. And sugar causes inflammation.

There are some amazing documentary type programs (not selling a damn thing) on people that were given no chance of survival that have gone on a strict no sugar plant-based diet and had amazing turn-arounds. Cancer tumors shrunk, went into remission and even completely disappeared. Their doctors have thrown their hands up and call it "unexplainable". I don't believe these cases are so unexplainable. You deprive the fuel (poisons like sugar) necessary for these diseases to grow.

umm...what do you have to lose?

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That is it. You just give up? Resign yourself to what the doctors say? :confused:

If a tenth of what you have claimed is true at even 1% of what you claim to have earned, you should fight until your last breath to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

While I am grateful for advances in modern medicine and am probably alive today because of a medical device and technique unavailable not long ago, If I found myself in the postion you are indicating you are in, I would immediately begin to explore some possibilities outside of the accepted "modern medicine".

I would start with a natural type plant based diet. Meat is poison. And all the chemicals in processing of most foods and meats are poison. And the greatest poison of all is sugar. It isn't just that sugar makes people fat. It is literally poison. And the Government knows it and has known it for decades. As our dependence on sugar has grown over the last 70 years, so has disease and occurrences of cancer. Inflammation is the cause of most disease and illness, including making conditions right for the abnormal growth of cells that becomes cancer. And sugar causes inflammation.

There are some amazing documentary type programs (not selling a damn thing) on people that were given no chance of survival that have gone on a strict no sugar plant-based diet and had amazing turn-arounds. Cancer tumors shrunk, went into remission and even completely disappeared. Their doctors have thrown their hands up and call it "unexplainable". I don't believe these cases are so unexplainable. You deprive the fuel (poisons like sugar) necessary for these diseases to grow.

umm...what do you have to lose?

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Wow you are educated on the subject

Been on a new diet since last February.

Not plant based as meat fish and poultry nutrition is more nuanced then just all meat is bad type of thing.

Sugar is the problem most certainly

But I’m not resigned to anything I’m at peace with What I can’t control going forward. I definitely will leave it all on then field that’s a guarantee. But some things are out of our control. Life eventually ends you know.

I’m Still doing everything as i would normally not sitting around worrying about shit I can’t control. I really have no regrets is what I mean by peace. I’m good

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A sugar-free smoothie can be just as filling as chocolate cake.

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Yes, I do have an interest in health. In MY health. :) And I try to educate myself and that includes considering and learning about things outside of "mainstream medicine". Mainstream medicine and doctors are now completely tied to the pharmaceutical industry. And that industry is about making money....period.

I have been on a plant based diet since September 1st. I consume a lot of fruits and vegetables, including starting every day with a smoothie containing several fruits (apples, grapes, bananas, different variety of berries) and several vegetables, usually, broccoli, carrots, spinach. I also like to make a big pot of my own soup or stew with fresh (not frozen) vegetables for some lunches.

And I eat some plant based meats (burgers and meatballs) for dinner. I am not completely sold on just how great plant based meats are because there is obviously the same processing involved. I do eat chicken twice a week and red meat twice a month, so I am not completely off meat.

Now sugar....everything has sugar in it. Including natural sugars in fruits. What I am mostly concerned about and have tried to eliminate or minimize is ADDED sugars. That is just added poison.

Unfortunately reducing or minimizing added sugars means not only all the obvious things like ice cream (huge for me) and cookies and things, but all breads. :( And I am NOT there 100% yet. I occasionally eat sugar free ice cream or cookies. But are they really sugar free? They have some sort of added sweetener, that may be just as bad as sugar. And I occasionally buy and eat some whole grain, bread that supposedly has less sugar (according to the label), but again does it? :confused:

I am not where I want to be yet, but I am getting there. It is a process. Every step, every bad thing you cut out that you know is bad...is a step towards better health and longevity. By now people should know that I am all about longevity. :rolleyes: But not just longevity. You want it to be a healthy existence kind of longevity.

And I still wish that for you. I don't beleive it is ever to late to start. I am glad to hear that you got started last year.

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I feel your humor Don. Kale is a great veggie. Many nutrients and antioxidants, including a decent source of Iron which can be hard to replace if you cut out or down on meat.

My problem is no matter how much I am committed, I just can't eat a good amount of Kale, or spinach, or broccoli on it's own. But in a smoothie with some fruits, which will dominate the flavor, I can get my Kale.

What I haven't found a way to include is fish. I have not found any fish or anything from the sea that I can stomach the taste of. I haven't tried blending some cooked fish into my smoothie. And I don't think I ever will. :rolleyes:

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That is it. You just give up? Resign yourself to what the doctors say? :confused:

If a tenth of what you have claimed is true at even 1% of what you claim to have earned, you should fight until your last breath to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

While I am grateful for advances in modern medicine and am probably alive today because of a medical device and technique unavailable not long ago, If I found myself in the postion you are indicating you are in, I would immediately begin to explore some possibilities outside of the accepted "modern medicine".

I would start with a natural type plant based diet. Meat is poison. And all the chemicals in processing of most foods and meats are poison. And the greatest poison of all is sugar. It isn't just that sugar makes people fat. It is literally poison. And the Government knows it and has known it for decades. As our dependence on sugar has grown over the last 70 years, so has disease and occurrences of cancer. Inflammation is the cause of most disease and illness, including making conditions right for the abnormal growth of cells that becomes cancer. And sugar causes inflammation.

There are some amazing documentary type programs (not selling a damn thing) on people that were given no chance of survival that have gone on a strict no sugar plant-based diet and had amazing turn-arounds. Cancer tumors shrunk, went into remission and even completely disappeared. Their doctors have thrown their hands up and call it "unexplainable". I don't believe these cases are so unexplainable. You deprive the fuel (poisons like sugar) necessary for these diseases to grow.

umm...what do you have to lose?

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Wow you are educated on the subject

Been on a new diet since last February.

Not plant based as meat fish and poultry nutrition is more nuanced then just all meat is bad type of thing.

Sugar is the problem most certainly

But I’m not resigned to anything I’m at peace with What I can’t control going forward. I definitely will leave it all on then field that’s a guarantee. But some things are out of our control. Life eventually ends you know.

I’m Still doing everything as i would normally not sitting around worrying about shit I can’t control. I really have no regrets is what I mean by peace. I’m good

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Look up the Joe Tippens protocol.

Casino foods are the worst of the worst. I ditched the comp train a few years ago. When I go on the road I only eat at grocery stores. Nothing I eat comes in a box. Fruits, vegetables, meat (mostly wild caught fish at home and non processed white chicken or turkey meat on the road). The one thing I really like about California is the grocery stores fresh juice centers.

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Yes, I do have an interest in health. In MY health. :) And I try to educate myself and that includes considering and learning about things outside of "mainstream medicine". Mainstream medicine and doctors are now completely tied to the pharmaceutical industry. And that industry is about making money....period.

I have been on a plant based diet since September 1st. I consume a lot of fruits and vegetables, including starting every day with a smoothie containing several fruits (apples, grapes, bananas, different variety of berries) and several vegetables, usually, broccoli, carrots, spinach. I also like to make a big pot of my own soup or stew with fresh (not frozen) vegetables for some lunches.

And I eat some plant based meats (burgers and meatballs) for dinner. I am not completely sold on just how great plant based meats are because there is obviously the same processing involved. I do eat chicken twice a week and red meat twice a month, so I am not completely off meat.

Now sugar....everything has sugar in it. Including natural sugars in fruits. What I am mostly concerned about and have tried to eliminate or minimize is ADDED sugars. That is just added poison.

Unfortunately reducing or minimizing added sugars means not only all the obvious things like ice cream (huge for me) and cookies and things, but all breads. :( And I am NOT there 100% yet. I occasionally eat sugar free ice cream or cookies. But are they really sugar free? They have some sort of added sweetener, that may be just as bad as sugar. And I occasionally buy and eat some whole grain, bread that supposedly has less sugar (according to the label), but again does it? :confused:

I am not where I want to be yet, but I am getting there. It is a process. Every step, every bad thing you cut out that you know is bad...is a step towards better health and longevity. By now people should know that I am all about longevity. :rolleyes: But not just longevity. You want it to be a healthy existence kind of longevity.

And I still wish that for you. I don't beleive it is ever to late to start. I am glad to hear that you got started last year.

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I ate a plant based diet for a year. Then reincorporated meat back into it. I may eat about 4 oz on average per day. Only fish and white bird meats. I buy super high quality meats only. On the road I will eat some rotisserie chicken though...RIP

The only grains I eat are steel cut oats and barley every now and then in soup. Once maybe 3x a year I will go eat some Chinese noodles.

I recommend the Forks Over Knives documentary to anyone looking to make a change in their eating habits. They're all plant based but not constantly pumping vegan bullshit.

Really everything boils down to gut health. If you can get that right then everything else falls into place. I recommend a company called Viome. They take samples and custom make prebiotics and probiotics specifically for the individual along with providing individual food recommendations. They retest and adjust everything every 6 months.

MaxPen, your comment "Casino foods are the worst of the worst" made me smile. And not a good "happy" smile.

For 10 years I ate at the casinos every day, sometimes twice a day, and the very worst of it...the buffets at places like Stations and Boyd, Fiesta, Rampart, Silverton South Point....all the locals type places that I played. East Cannery...loved East Cannerys and Sam's towns buffets. All the places that were the unhealtiest of the unhealthy options. One of the few good things to come out of covid is that all those buffets didn't reopen.

The way I play also changed and I am no longer out every day, especially weekdays and rely on the casinos for a meal (almost as part of my income). So that was a good change for me. My brother still plays almost every weekday and eats at casinos. Even though the buffets are gone, I am certain there is nothing healthy about his casino meals. :D

I'll tell you what else is very hard for me. Living with people that aren't eating healthy in any way. My brother (you know...the one I don't have), cooks steak on a grill on the balcony (that we don't have) and is (against HOA rules to cook on the balcony).

THAT is why a couple times a month, I still eat red meat. It is hard to have him cook a plant based burger for me, when I smell his steak. A couple times a month, I give in. :(

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I'll tell you what else is very hard for me. Living with people that aren't eating healthy in any way. My brother (you know...the one I don't have), cooks steak on a grill on the balcony (that we don't have) and is (against HOA rules to cook on the balcony).

THAT is why a couple times a month, I still eat red meat. It is hard to have him cook a plant based burger for me, when I smell his steak. A couple times a month, I give in. :(

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Eating red meat ain't unhealthy and eating soy-based plant-based garbage ain't gonna do nothing good for yer bum ticker and brittle bone, hey hey.

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Eating red meat ain't unhealthy and eating soy-based plant-based garbage ain't gonna do nothing good for yer bum ticker and brittle bone, hey hey.

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Why is it that so many people on this forum (maybe every forum) take such pride and pleasure in proving to complete strangers what a complete dick there are? What is missing from their lives that there is such a need? :confused:

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I'll tell you what else is very hard for me. Living with people that aren't eating healthy in any way. My brother (you know...the one I don't have), cooks steak on a grill on the balcony (that we don't have) and is (against HOA rules to cook on the balcony).

THAT is why a couple times a month, I still eat red meat. It is hard to have him cook a plant based burger for me, when I smell his steak. A couple times a month, I give in. :(

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I'll tell you what else is very hard for me. Living with people that aren't eating healthy in any way. My brother (you know...the one I don't have), cooks steak on a grill on the balcony (that we don't have) and is (against HOA rules to cook on the balcony).

THAT is why a couple times a month, I still eat red meat. It is hard to have him cook a plant based burger for me, when I smell his steak. A couple times a month, I give in. :(

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Eating red meat ain't unhealthy and eating soy-based plant-based garbage ain't gonna do nothing good for yer bum ticker and brittle bone, hey hey.

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Lean red meat is probably best. But really red meat sits in your gut a long time and does harm to your epithelial cells as well which affects your cardiovascular system. If you eliminate it you will notice all sorts of things like increased endurance and better oxygenation. I ate steaks almost every day for years and have no regrets eliminating it from my diet due to improvements I noticed. To each their own though.

I may start eating a little once or twice a month. But I feel a person has to make radical changes at first. It really takes about a year to see really incredible results following a predominantly plant based diet.

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Eating red meat ain't unhealthy and eating soy-based plant-based garbage ain't gonna do nothing good for yer bum ticker and brittle bone, hey hey.

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Why is it that so many people on this forum (maybe every forum) take such pride and pleasure in proving to complete strangers what a complete dick there are? What is missing from their lives that there is such a need? :confused:

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Bbbwwwaaahhh, yer as emotionally fragile as you are physically fragile, congratulations, hey hey!!!!

The only reason UNKewLyingJ came up with the "steaks barbecued on a balcony" non sequitur is to counter how MaxPen caught him in yet another lie, this one about the squishy carpet on the balcony.

UNKewlJ did a little "studying up" on what is and what is not allowed at Panorama / The Martin Towers and thought he'd slip something in that made a little more sense than the "squishy wet carpet on the balcony" faux pas.

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After all the rain we had FraudJ definitely has damp wet carpet remnants though.:cool:

Just a fun fact
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Water collecting carpets. You know the kind that would cause water to squish between your toes are not allowed on your balcony at Panorama...RIP

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The twenty-three most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in and does not even live in, where he can’t even get his story straight about what is and what is not allowed by the condo CCRs, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (8) the rigged shuffler, (9) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (10) $50K multi hand VP hit, (11) winning a car, (12) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (13) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (14) lies that made it clear that he has never filed taxes as a professional gambler, (15) fabricated sports bets, (16) lies about that he has calculated his exact "expected win" over a decade and a half period, (17) lies about ever playing blackjack other than red green chip action as cover for a sugar daddy hustle, (18) lying about how “many” APs know him, (19) lies about how “many” APs have offered to “hire him” for their blackjack teams, (20) lying about never posting again about this or that or on this or that forum, (21) lies about the "oily" surfboard, (22) lied about whether or not he was gay, (23) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

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Give it up Dawg.

I have mentioned that my brother grills on the balcony a number of times over the years. I suppose next you will tell us that I began planning this retort to Maxpen's comments years ago?

And while I am not confirming where Maxpen says I live or is trying to say I don't live (I don't even know at this point), I see no such mention of water squishing carpets in the HOA rules where I live. About the closest I see is wording about you can't have anything that causes an unnatural drainage onto a balcony below. And of course, in Las Vegas that is a moot point about 364 days a year. :rolleyes:

When I look down and diagonally down, from my balcony, I can see probably 18 to 20 other balconies and almost all have some sort of rug or mat. I have no idea which would fall under squishy carpeting as again I see no wording to that effect.

Additionally, this is the second place I have lived involving an HOA. I know Maxpen has lived places as well. Usually some of the "rules" are things that aren't enforced, or can't be enforced or aren't enforced until somebody, some busy-body makes it an issue out of spite. Things like no holiday Christmas lights will be enforced because that is obvious. Whether a rug is a water squishy rug or not wouldn't be unless it was creating a drainage situation mentioned and the person below filed a complaint.

This is just more of the usual nonsense on this forum.

And BTW, just because an HOA says something is a rule does not make it legal. The first condo I was at with an HOA, was a condo hotel, with a rule that residents could only stay there 60 nights a year. That rule was relaxed in writing to a couple dozen residents that bought and lived there permanently just after the real estate crash of 2008 , myself included. When they real estate markets improved and there wasn't dozens of units in foreclosure a few years later they tried to change that written rules to us. A group of us sued and won when they settled the night before the case was to be heard.

Casinos and other businesses do the same thing. Just because a casino says something is a rule, does not make it law or legal. I have long held that Pennsylvania casino do NOT have the right to refuse players like they do (they Nevada model). The Pa rules are actually written more like NJ. Or at least were initially. I haven't kept up since I don't live there. I always thought if someone challenged in court they would win. I am not aware that anyone ever did.

Writing a rule or policy, does NOT make it law.

KJ, the hound is beside himself that notwithstanding the slings and arrows he's hurled at you, you're still are here pointing out the error of his ways.

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KJ, the hound is beside himself that notwithstanding the slings and arrows he's hurled at you, you're still are here pointing out the error of his ways.

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I know that MrV. Everyone knows that.

Mdawg is a losing gambler that gambles, loses and is comped accordingly. Everyone knows this now. Dan Druff said it almost at the beginning of the Mdawg adventure. You know who else said it? Rob Singer. :cool:

So there is no mystery as to what is going on with his trolling. He trolls and attacks anyone who dared publicly say they don't believe his whatever it is "story". The latest is Poker Grinder and his attacks about his weight. That is just more Mdawg being a complete troll and dick. he used to try to hide his contempt for any sort of real player that knows his fairytale is bullshit. Now he can no longer even hide it.

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What's funniest about the UNKewl :clown: is he keeps repeating himself (at great length) as if he has 'stablished anything. The only thing he has established is how obsessed he is with MDawg Tater and RSinger! Repeating yourself ad nauseam without providing a shred of proof to back up your claims, doth not make a case.

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Let’s get right to it! No beating around the bush for SoxFan!

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Anyway brother you keep on posting these Zodiac Ciphers online. I’m Sure there’s some hidden meaning in all those number and code. If that brings you joy keep it up. Laugher is the best medicine and probably the only reason I participated here over the last few years. Funny shit.

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I'm sure that there's some final, final magic in the Zodiac ciphers. One, final, final time. Ha.

All that we have to do is break down your quote above into two equally manageable parts for the anagram solver, each with (111 + 1) letters ---> 1111.

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https://anagram-solver.net/Xnyway%20....?partial=true


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...rings you joy keep it up. Laugher is the best medicine and probably the only reason I participated here over the last few years. Funny shit.

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---> History of rugby union matches between the British and Irish Lions and Other Countries.

https://anagram-solver.net/...rings%....?partial=true


By removing two Ap's (as rotated and mirrored) from the first part, the second anagram solution is the same as the first, which is about 20,000,000 to 1, given that the anagram solver "features 19,740,306 possible answers". The very first time that I had two solutions the same in the same anagram. Interestingly, either two a's, or, two p's (the second as a rotated d for effect), were tied for the simplest way to bring the first solution above to the top of that list, from second spot.

Furthermore, if remove the necessary two i's, by two 1's, from the one anagram solution above, then

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https://anagram-solver.net/History%2....?partial=true


So, to put it all together, the #1 Ap dⱯ #⇂. Moreover, it's thus safe to remove another two i's, by 1's, for 1Hit1der. The power of the 2's, as in (2 X 1111) = 2222, for all of the initial letters of the main quote above combined.

https://youtu.be/zhRzORqNa0E

I will add that I differ from the lyrics of the song above, in that even though each day, including one's last, is the first day of the rest of one's life, one leaves both body and mind behind, to reawaken anew upon death, but in a different universe. That's the finality of death.

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So in reading the discussion here with Mission, did SV contact mission recruiting him? Thats what it looks like. That doesn't appear to be against any forum rules. Just wondering?

Is that what SV's time here was about? Recruiting some people that he can help turn into millionaires? :D We all know that these "teams" need people. Need new people as they cycle and use up members.

I really don't care. Just an observation. Mission is certainly smart enough to make his own decision on something like that.

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Read my last post

There was no recruiting my team had left his area of the country to pursue another opportunity. The play was over and there was some ok money left to get. I offered it to him and told him if he was interested when he was done we would settle up in person because I don’t do online money transactions. He eventually declined was not a big deal to me because the money was not going to be collected by us. Not because we were 86ed as I’ve been back to this place since. His reputation is the only reason I offered. You miss understand buddy, once again you have no experience working with legit professional stand up guys with integrity. This is clear because you have a bad opinion of teams. I don’t disagree with your opinion on most teams as we definitely are the exception. My word and integrity in gambling has always meant more then money. That’s how I roll.

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Seedvalue speaks the truth.

1.) Seedvalue had some pick-ups on some cards at a casino near my location.

2.) The fact is that I have run cards there, on a smaller scale, in the past...so the amounts (of FP) on the cards checked out with what I already knew; that's why it's my strong opinion that he runs cards at different places. What he was saying was on the cards, and the stage of the cycle the cards would have been at, made absolute sense.

3.) One aspect that put me off (relative to the time that he asked) is that he'd recently been raking me over the coals for working with WoN; the fact that he would do that and then totally flip and entrust me with doing business with him smelled off.

4.) Another reason that I declined is because I felt that I would be blamed if I got pinched with the cards, or if the cards were somehow killed, be accused of lying in order to collect it all for myself. Should any such have happened, and the accusations made public, then everyone would believe SV and nobody would have believed me.

5.) There was a small possibility that I might also have been being set up for an ambush at the time the cards would be handed off. While I can certainly take care of myself, I'm not Chuck Norris (especially at my age), so I'm losing any four-on-one situation and probably most three-on-one situations.

In short, I calculated my expected profits (based on my percentage) to be $2,000-$3,000, so my cost-benefit analysis decided that it wasn't worth the potential downside. There was also the possibility of getting 86'ed from that casino, but that was a more minor concern than the other concerns; I don't go there much these days.

Anyway, SV and I have had private correspondence since then and I can say I'd work with him now if something similar came up. That's mainly because I've decided he's not who I thought he might be.

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Really everything boils down to gut health.

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I learned this is true the hard way. Years back I found myself getting increasingly lethargic as I got older, despite the fact I spend a good bit of time in the gym. Eventually figured out how to control the overgrowth of candida in my gut and it was life changing.
Refined sugar is the worst thing you can consume... agreed. Probably the number one reason for health issues in this country.

You guys made some great points but I'll also add intermittent fasting to the mix, it's something people have been doing for centuries that has great health benefits. Look up Dr. Pradip Jamnadas, the guy's not selling anything and he makes a hell of a case for fasting.

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These details will probably Dox me but at this stage of my life and current health it really doesn’t matter.

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Sorry to read you confirm this health situation, seedvalue. Hope it works out for the best for you.

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It’s all good , I’m at peace

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Hope you get well Seedvalue. Enjoy your posts.

I guessed that I missed what he said he had. Is it cancer?

Anyway, about the diet stuff, I have to think that most of it is the placebo effect. Like most pot persons merely believe that it has medicinal or other value.

From personal experience, I had a surgeon tell me, "I don't know what you're eating, but, keep eating it." My point being that you don't necessarily have to go out of your way to avoid some junk food here or there, and, so, that sort of advice is mainly directed at persons with preexisting physical conditions. Healthy people can get by on a lot more than sick people. In general, I try not to eat too late in the day, I don't smoke, or drink, and, to get my "beauty sleep". A bit of physical labor, either, leaving it all out there, by the end of the day, can't hurt.

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Engaging in challenging mental activities like solving anagrams has been shown to reduce stress levels. It helps take your mind off everyday problems and allows you to focus on something else for a while.

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Where did Mickey calculate the return of 90%? It makes sense that the 50.1% becomes part of another calculation, but, not without considering the amount lost while waiting for the 2 numbers to hit.

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It's pretty clear to me that you don't understand gambling math. Everyone else understood what I wrote. But some amazingly simple math is going over your head.

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I think that you're okay, Mickey. Sometimes I try to stir things up, a bit, to see what sort of anagrams come out of it. But, no more anagrams, from me. I like to reach some sort of peak, and, then, let it go.

Say, though, that the thread has died down, a bit, I will get to posting up the simple physics progression of the initial sets of dimensions. The latter parts of those involve working inward to the fractional charges that form the neutron, and proton.

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I guessed that I missed what he said he had. Is it cancer?

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He didn't say.

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I guessed that I missed what he said he had. Is it cancer?

Anyway, about the diet stuff, I have to think that most of it is the placebo effect. Like most pot persons merely believe that it has medicinal or other value.

From personal experience, I had a surgeon tell me, "I don't know what you're eating, but, keep eating it." My point being that you don't necessarily have to go out of your way to avoid some junk food here or there, and, so, that sort of advice is mainly directed at persons with preexisting physical conditions. Healthy people can get by on a lot more than sick people. In general, I try not to eat too late in the day, I don't smoke, or drink, and, to get my "beauty sleep". A bit of physical labor, either, leaving it all out there, by the end of the day, can't hurt.

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Anything in moderation is probably fine. It takes a lot of bad eating to cause problems. But no doubt there is a cumulative effect when it comes to bad decisions. It also takes a long time to correct problems thru good nutrition. Just like it takes years for problems to show. I got into nutrition due to a bad gallbladder. I had a gallbladder that had 3 gallstones and was functioning at 11%. Of course a surgeon said it should come out. I got a book on healing your gallbladder and liver naturally.

When last checked a few months ago there was still one small stone not causing any problems currently and I'm going to wait until the end of this year before getting another function check. Although, since I have no symptoms of anything it's probably much better. But it took quite a long while to fix using a lot of discipline.

During all that is when I discovered the importance of a healthy microbiome. Something hardly any doctors talk about. Optimizing my gut health has been a total game changer. I lost 20% of my body weight and am at a normal BMI. I have no cravings, addictions of any kind, and sleep like a baby. Don't get tired like a lot of people I know who are the same age. Also my eyes improved 3 prescription levels to the good making glasses optional. Prior to that I had the same prescription for the past 10 years.

Call me crazy or whatever but I am completely reformed as to how I eat. It's definitely not a placebo. I don't believe in any of the all or nothing extreme fad diets. I do think eating all meals within a 4-8 hour window is definitely worthwhile with a day of no food every now and then.

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MaxPen, your comment "Casino foods are the worst of the worst" made me smile. And not a good "happy" smile.

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It made him smile because his penny ante video poker and red green blackjack play barely rates for a free hot dog. If he even played rated, which he can't figure out what his story is, alternating between "I have never played rated" to, "Yes I have played rated."

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The UNKewl one was a liar, and like most liars, he was constantly changing his stories, altering time and personnel from one telling to the next. One time he would tell a story about someone, next time he would switch the story around to give himself the lead. He would sit in the casino coffee shop over coffee and pound cake, talking at random about his experiences, posting constantly on internet forums, plotting ways to take down all those he is envious of, never actually entering the casino, afraid like a nervous poodle to even play.

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The truth remains the truth, and whether seedvalue is on his death bed or not, like Tater/Moses, he is not going to retract one bit of the truth he uncovered about FraudJ.

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The late Kevin Keen (Moses) lied about me for years and then apologized on this deathbed.

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Let's address this first.

The minute Moses died, UNKewLyingJ was all over both forums but especially this one, going on and on about how yes Moses had showed up at his condo in 2019. So much for UNKewLyingJ's hypocrisy about leaving the dead to RIP.

Moses never retracted his statement that he had never showed up at any condo at which UNKewLyingJ lived. Moses stated repeatedly that he had never even been to Vegas as of the year UNKewLyingJ claimed he had visited him. All Moses did towards the end of his life was express remorse in general over having duked it out with UNKewLyingJ at the forums: Kj is not my right to just your life. I'm a very sorry. I hope you will forgive me. I didn't mean those nasty I said to you. I hope you will forgive me and maybe keep me in your prayers. That would be great. I don't want to fight anymore.. These sort of classy last words are more than UNKewLyingJ ever managed about either AlanMendelson or Moses, before or after they died.

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He didn't say.

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He said it was tewlj-itis, when he posted 15 times after asking for his account to be deleted.

RIP

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How old were you parents when they died?

As far as this eating red meat or not eating red meat.

I just completed almost a full year (over 11 months) no red meat - only poultry and seafood as far as "animal flesh."

Each year I run about 14 different blood / urine tests. Once in a blue moon, 4 additional. My doctor keeps saying "you don't need to do all that," but I insist, and I do them anyway. One needle stick anyway, just takes a bit more time to draw more tubes.

I didn't see any change in anything between a year ago's results, and this year's.

Where I expected to see change were in the
Lipid Panel w/ Chol/HDL Ratio
Lipid Panel w/ non-HDL
but really - no difference to speak of. For example triglycerides about 60 a year ago, about 50 this year both tests (range 0 - 149). Cholesterol (total) about the same, and T. Chol/HDL Ratio still about 3.

Now, it could simply be that seafood like lobster and shrimp are just as high in cholesterol as red meat, but at this point I'm not willing to give those up, given that my levels are very good, just wanted to know if they would change when mammal flesh was removed from the equation. They really didn't.

As far as - do I feel better not eating red meat. Well, let's just say that I feel better "about" not eating red meat because I assume red meat is not as healthful as fish and poultry. And we do eat a lot of fish.

BTW the most important number for purposes of life insurance is that T. Chol/HDL Ratio - as long as it is 4 or lower, you get top tier lowest rates.

And also BTW, one way to lower your cholesterol and especially triglycerides "naturally" is by taking Niacin (not niacinamide, niacin). If you take the prescription medium speed time release variety (Niaspan https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9751239/ ) it flushes out over time, and doesn't give you that excessive burning flush. That's another thing my doctor said "you don't need" but I still got the croaker to write the script.

Discipline. The complete opposite of that swine UNKewlJ.

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as I've said many times, forever and readily explains how there is no way in hell that such a helpless little twit would ever have the required character and discipline to be the gunslinging bj player he purports to be. And he never does get how he exposes that in his myriad of postings

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The truth remains the truth, and whether seedvalue is on his death bed or not, like Tater/Moses, he is not going to retract one bit of the truth he uncovered about FraudJ.

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The late Kevin Keen (Moses) lied about me for years and then apologized on this deathbed.

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Let's address this first.

The minute Moses died, UNKewLyingJ was all over both forums but especially this one, going on and on about how yes Moses had showed up at his condo in 2019. So much for UNKewLyingJ's hypocrisy about leaving the dead to RIP.

Moses never retracted his statement that he had never showed up at any condo at which UNKewLyingJ lived. Moses stated repeatedly that he had never even been to Vegas as of the year UNKewLyingJ claimed he had visited him. All Moses did towards the end of his life was express remorse in general over having duked it out with UNKewLyingJ at the forums: Kj is not my right to just your life. I'm a very sorry. I hope you will forgive me. I didn't mean those nasty I said to you. I hope you will forgive me and maybe keep me in your prayers. That would be great. I don't want to fight anymore.. These sort of classy last words are more than UNKewLyingJ ever managed about either AlanMendelson or Moses, before or after they died.

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God you are an idiot, Mdawg. And a lying piece of shit til the end. Moses apologized for the nasty things he said over 10+ years. You just quoted it. What the fuck do you think he was talking about?

Moses is gone, may he rest in peace. I can say that, as well as wishing somebody like Moses and Seedvalue well, when they disclose, they are seriously ill because it is the decent thing to do. It doesn't mean I forgive them or have forgotten all the nasty shit and lies.

I never knew exactly what Moses's issue with me was. My issue with him was that when he came to Norm's forum, he started claiming he was a professional blackjack player and sports bettor, living and playing Reno. I knew that couldn't be. I was not completely sure about the sports betting, but a player just can not be a professional blackjack player playing only or based out of Reno. I have come to learn by experience that it is dangerous to play Reno at all, as after 10+ years of identifying and playing limits and a style that were well tolerated here in Vegas, a weekend trip to Reno resulted in consequences that began to unravel all that work and success. But that is another story.

So I guess Moses big issue was that I dared say, no that isn't right. You simply cannot play professional blackjack in or based out of Reno.

The big admission that Moses made, and it wasn't exactly on his deathbed, but sometime in the last year of his life, probably when he already knew he was sick, was that he had made $100,000 playing Reno over 10 years. THAT is NOT professional level blackjack or earnings. That is an average of $10,000 a year. Part-time, supplemental, supplementing retirement (which we later learned was what Moses story actually was). But 10K a year is not professional level blackjack play and that is what Moses claimed that I objected to. And THAT is what he admitted towards the end.

Now this part is speculation based on what I now know. Moses lived in California with his wife and owned and ran a business (something to do with blinds or window shades). He got divorced in his early 50's and moved to Reno. I don't know if he sold his business or closed his business, but after divorcing he was basically retired, early at a young age. This is about the time he showed up at Norm's forum making these claims. I think he thought that was going to be the next phase of his life, playing blackjack at some sort of professional level making....well I don't know what he thought he was going to make, but I am sure more than 10k a year. And he found out he couldn't do that....I am sure VERY quickly. Problem was he had already told everyone that is what he was doing and had done for some time. He just couldn't bring himself to say, "well yeah that is what my plan was, but I was unable to play for the money I thought in RENO", until the last year when he did pretty much say that.

I don't know why it escalated the way it did, and he got so nasty and personal with attacks, just because I said, you can't do what he claimed in RENO. But it did escalate. Just the same I don't know why Mdawg has escalated just because I have said you can't do most of the things he claims in Vegas. It is just not the way it works.

These guys from Singer to Mdawg to Moses, come out and make claims that equate to a fantasy story because they are claiming things that defy the way things work and when anyone, not just myself but anyone calls them on it, they get nasty, attack and lie. The only thing a little different about Moses was based on what I now know, I don't think he set out to lie and make up a fantasy story like Singer and Mdawg. I think Moses thought he was going to move to Reno and play blackjack for a living after his divorce, and for whatever reason, he jumped the gun, saying that is what he had already done or was doing. And then when he discovered that wasn't possible in Reno, he couldn't bring himself to come clean until that last year. And even then, he did it is sort of bits and pieces.

But anyway, enough about Moses. I don't understand why people need to make up some of the shit that they make up and do all the personal attacks that they do. That doesn't mean I can't and won't wish them well if they become sick and are passing away or something. It also doesn't mean that wipes away what they have said.

Watching gamblers try and say they've suddenly come to an epiphany about healthy living and eating is the same as lifelong smokers thinking their cold-turkey quitting in their 50's will somehow be rewarded with several decades of quality life.

There is only one way to realize a healthy life throughout your years: FROM THE MOMENT YOU LEARN TO SHOOT YOUR FIRST LOAD UNTIL THE DAY YOUR BODY SAYS "NO MAS!" eat properly, live properly, and exercise daily.

All the rest is noise.

Period.

And kew--you're a known and proven liar. Your lies about Moses just proves you don't like it.

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KJ keeps trying to manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over. Can you imagine how much time and angst that takes?

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eat properly, live properly, and exercise daily.

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It is hard to find anything that Singer says that isn't just complete garbage anymore. The importance of exercise, which hasn't been mentioned too much as this discussion turned to health and eating healthy, is one of those few times.

When we are young and active, especially if you have a job or make a living involving being on the move (rather than sitting at a deck 40 hours a week), and you are active in your spare time doing things you enjoy, it probably isn't necessary to plan and schedule specific periods of exercise. You get enough exercise.

But as you start to get older and maybe that is 40's for some people, maybe 30's or 50's for others, you have to work a little and schedule and make time for exercise.

And the same goes for eating. You can get away with eating all that junk and garbage (and poison) when you are young. But as you get older, you need to start to work at, and educating yourself about eating healthier. There is nothing wrong with making these changes and education mid-life or even later in life.

There is some exercise involved with having to traverse all those tunnels, and push a shopping cart.

From UNKewlJ's homeless days in Philly, after being thrown out of his familial home:

https://i.imgur.com/EEkpPV0l.jpg

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Still alive

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How is their quality of life?

My understanding is that we should expect to live as long as the average of our parents' age when they die, unless their death is accidental.

Do you expect to outlive your parents?

Do you expect to live after their death...do you expect to live more years than they did?

Is that something that you aspire to, or think that you can influence or control?

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I do think eating all meals within a 4-8 hour window is definitely worthwhile with a day of no food every now and then.

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That is essentially intermittent fasting. I will definitely look more into the healthy microbiome stuff.

I'm pretty sure gall bladder surgeries are just another cash cow. I had mine taken out while trying to diagnose another issue. Never had any symptoms, no stones, but failed the functionality test. They took it out and it made no difference either way, so then I was just like... well I guess that wasn't the problem, wtf??

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I just completed almost a full year (over 11 months) no red meat - only poultry and seafood as far as "animal flesh."
...I didn't see any change in anything between a year ago's results, and this year's.

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I did a similar thing and had a similar result. Let me educate you. The whole cholesterol thing has pretty much been debunked. More recent studies have shown that your diet, in the long term, has little influence on your cholesterol numbers. Also those lipid panel numbers don't mean much either. There are more advanced tests like cholesterol particle density/size that are more significant. But if you're really worried about your heart health go see a cardiologist and have a nuclear imaging/stress test done and be done with it. IMO anyone around 40 or over should consider doing it at least once.

In my experience fish/krill oil at 1.2-1.4g a day will lower my triglycerides, but a recent study showed that fish oil did not reduce the incidents of heart attacks... so we are essentially chasing our tails. Also in my personal experience I've found regular exercise will improve cholesterol numbers a bit, but again... are these numbers actually significant?? Just for fun look up what happens when your total cholesterol is under 160 after the age of 80... no bueno!

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My understanding is that we should expect to live as long as the average of our parents' age when they die, unless their death is accidental.

Do you expect to outlive your parents?

Do you expect to live after their death...do you expect to live more years than they did?

Is that something that you aspire to, or think that you can influence or control?

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I haven't really thought about that. They're in their 80's and my mom is in exceptional condition. She has always been into a healthy lifestyle though. I grew up not even knowing what Coke was and eating basically the way I am now. My mom still jumps on a trampoline everyday, hangs upside down on an inversion bar, and uses a wheel with her hands on the floor doing shit that you would think would kill an 80 year old ...lol

I doubt I live longer than she winds up lasting. My dad's grandma went to 106 or 7, I can't remember. I don't think I would want that. She lived in her house up until the end though with a great aunt living in with her for the last couple years.

I think you can do your best to try and take care of your health but a lot of stuff is luck of the draw. I'm mid 50's or so. I'm glad to be getting back on track. I spent 7 years on the comp train and pretty much just dusted off the appliances in my kitchen. Restaurants use a ton of seed oils and now I pretty much cut all oils out and I believe that makes a difference too. My earlier younger adult years were spent pretty well with the military. I have about a decade of neglect to overcome. I'm probably harder on myself than I need to be.

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I do think eating all meals within a 4-8 hour window is definitely worthwhile with a day of no food every now and then.

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Big difference between eating all meals within a 4 hour window and eating all meal within 8 hour window. If you eat breakfast at 9am, lunch at noon-1pm and dinner at 5, a schedule many folks are on or close to, you are already within that 8 hour window (assuming you don't snack it up in the evening. :rolleyes:)

After my second heart surgery, I developed bad acid reflux. It has since been diagnosed as LPR reflux which is a little different than normal reflux. There is no reason why heart surgery would lead to or result in a new acid reflux problem, but it did. And I have since heard others that have had that happen.

Bouts with this LPR reflux come and go and can last for weeks. Mucus, constant couching, my throat swells, sometimes trouble swallowing and even breathing, especially at night. This is because the acid that refluxes all the way to the throat as opposed to the esophagus (normal reflux) damages the sensitive throat tissue. Medication (acid reducing) helps, some, but not always. there is a surgery, but I am not ready for that yet.

So my primary Doc sent me to an acid reflex doctor and his very first advise was to eat all my meals within a 4 hour window and fast for 20 hours a day. I didn't care for this advice. That is a little too extreme for me. It is like you go to a doctor and say it hurts when I raise my hand and he responds well then don't raise your hand. That is what I felt the 4 hour window was.

Additionally, anyone who has diabetes (my partner did) is told to eat 4 or 5 meals throughout the day to help level blood sugar spikes. I don't have diabetes or anything but it just seems like the "eat all meals in a 4 hour window" contradicts other sound medical advice like spreading meals out to minimize blood sugar spike (even non diabetics have blood sugar spikes after eating).

So many situations like this. One remedy or medicaal advice is good for one thing but bad for other things.

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I do think eating all meals within a 4-8 hour window is definitely worthwhile with a day of no food every now and then.

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Big difference between eating all meals within a 4 hour window and eating all meal within 8 hour window. If you eat breakfast at 9am, lunch at noon-1pm and dinner at 5, a schedule many folks are on or close to, you are already within that 8 hour window (assuming you don't snack it up in the evening. :rolleyes:)

After my second heart surgery, I developed bad acid reflux. It has since been diagnosed as LPR reflux which is a little different than normal reflux. There is no reason why heart surgery would lead to or result in a new acid reflux problem, but it did. And I have since heard others that have had that happen.

Bouts with this LPR reflux come and go and can last for weeks. Mucus, constant couching, my throat swells, sometimes trouble swallowing and even breathing, especially at night. This is because the acid that refluxes all the way to the throat as opposed to the esophagus (normal reflux) damages the sensitive throat tissue. Medication (acid reducing) helps, some, but not always. there is a surgery, but I am not ready for that yet.

So my primary Doc sent me to an acid reflex doctor and his very first advise was to eat all my meals within a 4 hour window and fast for 20 hours a day. I didn't care for this advice. That is a little too extreme for me. It is like you go to a doctor and say it hurts when I raise my hand and he responds well then don't raise your hand. That is what I felt the 4 hour window was.

Additionally, anyone who has diabetes (my partner did) is told to eat 4 or 5 meals throughout the day to help level blood sugar spikes. I don't have diabetes or anything but it just seems like the "eat all meals in a 4 hour window" contradicts other sound medical advice like spreading meals out to minimize blood sugar spike (even non diabetics have blood sugar spikes after eating).

So many situations like this. One remedy or medicaal advice is good for one thing but bad for other things.

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You're not supposed to be eating foods that cause dramatic insulin spikes. If I eat 3 meals it's about 8 hours. The usual 2 late breakfast then early dinner is around 4 hours. If you don't have cravings you don't even think about snacking. My gallbladder problem maybe caused acid reflux or it was a separate problem I had for awhile. All that went away about 3 months into the Viome program.

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You're not supposed to be eating foods that cause dramatic insulin spikes.

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Ok, now we have a name for what you are doing. Can research it some. Thanks for that. :)

BTW, Almost EVERYTHING may cause acid reflex. Nobody really has any idea. All they really know is the LES valve weakens and/or stops working for whatever reason. And this is the important part. That value weakening and stopping working and acid reflux in general is so much, more prevalent in the U.S. that other places. It HAS to be related to diet! Wouldn't surprise me if sugar is the real culprit.