KJ BJ expert?

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

Hooters most certainly did not have a $25 min table in the last 8 years (probably ever but I can't be sure).

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Did you ever play in the high-limit section of Hooters?

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I can prove at least 18 of your stories are pure lies but I don't want these psychos on here knowing who you are. You always say no one can prove but I *CAN* prove it. I know who you are. I have the proofs. I just don't want to dox it so I let you continue with your lies.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I can prove at least 18 of your stories are pure lies but I don't want these psychos on here knowing who you are. You always say no one can prove but I *CAN* prove it. I know who you are. I have the proofs. I just don't want to dox it so I let you continue with your lies.

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MDawg, it's pretty clear from the kewlJ(s) latest responses to my thread that there is and has been more than one idiot posting as kewlJ.

Interacting with that handle is a complete waste of time.

Todd allowing that handle to flood this forum is a shame. It is clearly multiple people. Now we are probably just months away from AI largely taking over most posting as avatars for the original posters, so I guess in the long run it doesn't really matter. But in the short run, kewlJ is certainly either multiples or someone with severe memory issues.

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I can prove at least 18 of your stories are pure lies but I don't want these psychos on here knowing who you are. You always say no one can prove but I *CAN* prove it. I know who you are. I have the proofs. I just don't want to dox it so I let you continue with your lies.

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MDawg, it's pretty clear from the kewlJ(s) latest responses to my thread that there is and has been more than one idiot posting as kewlJ.

Interacting with that handle is a complete waste of time.

Todd allowing that handle to flood this forum is a shame. It is clearly multiple people. Now we are probably just months away from AI largely taking over most posting as avatars for the original posters, so I guess in the long run it doesn't really matter. But in the short run, kewlJ is certainly either multiples or someone with severe memory issues.

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I'm working on a forum unrelated to gambling that is just full of AI posters. They all have a biography, personality traits of various types, posting styles.

Once I get the software done maybe I can make one just for Kewl to interact with.

Of course in my case the goal is to get real posters in and such but you have to seed the convos and give people a reason to want to sign-up. <shrug>

BTW - I wish you would delete some of your inbox so I can exchange some info with you and Mdawg.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by redietz

MDawg, it's pretty clear from the kewlJ(s) latest responses to my thread that there is and has been more than one idiot posting as kewlJ.

Interacting with that handle is a complete waste of time.

Todd allowing that handle to flood this forum is a shame. It is clearly multiple people. Now we are probably just months away from AI largely taking over most posting as avatars for the original posters, so I guess in the long run it doesn't really matter. But in the short run, kewlJ is certainly either multiples or someone with severe memory issues.

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I'm working on a forum unrelated to gambling that is just full of AI posters. They all have a biography, personality traits of various types, posting styles.

Once I get the software done maybe I can make one just for Kewl to interact with.

Of course in my case the goal is to get real posters in and such but you have to seed the convos and give people a reason to want to sign-up. <shrug>

BTW - I wish you would delete some of your inbox so I can exchange some info with you and Mdawg.

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I'll clear some of it out tomorrow. I have an odd sentimental attachment to Alan's PMs to me and some of the old stuff. Will clean it up some. I apologize.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I don't remember what the max was when it became OYO (I can't recall every max bet amount from a decade ago at every place I played). Places that have $25 min table the max is at least $500, usually $1000. OYO had a $25 table at least for a short time after they took over. I know this because OYO took over late summer 2019. And I was playing heads up with a part-time dealer that also worked at Hard Rock Casino at the time, which would have been fall 2019.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Would you like to ask what brand underwear I had on the days we played Hooters?

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There is no one else posting on my account but me. Looks like another made up lie Red intends to repeat.

there was a brief time my brother had an interest in posting. We asked dan Druff and the admin at GF how to go about making a second account that wouldn't look like a sock puppet with the same IP. Neither admin wanted us to do that. So my brother posted very briefly on my account until he lost interest and it was more so at GF than here.

I am the same guy Dietz. I just don't like people that post bullshit. For a long time you flew under my radar with that shit, claiming to be a professional sports bettor. Probably because I didn't know all that much about sports betting except as a recreational bettor. But then you exposed yourself as a tout, not a sports bettor, and Kim Lee came along and proved it further by identifying that you didn't even have what would have been a good enough win percentage to make any kind of real money.

YOU did that Dietz! I didn't do that to you. And you know what Dietz, this dragging your feet on a podcast where people that know might ask you questions you can't answer has only further proved who you are or more precisely are NOT.

I mean you are welcome to post here. Touts are welcome. Everyone is welcome. I enjoy stories from long time degenerate type gamblers. But you are NOT what you claimed to be all those years, which was the second coming of Billy Walters, who you name dropped frequently.

Just like Mdawgs story would have been interesting if he stuck to the facts, that he is a higher limit player that gambles, loses more than he wins and enjoys the high end comps he receives, your story would have been interesting if you were honest and said you tout people, selling picks, do a lit of sports betting, play some of the contests looking for a score.....whatever it took to get by. But just like Dawg you couldn't do that. You had to try to make it into something else.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I've gone over this many times. You ADDED needless details to your story. Adding fiction later in the story doesn't make you more difficult to find. It just pads the story with bullshit.

I would have no problem if you "lied" by changing around dates, times, or even the name of the casino. But the bullshit added in the second half of the story was at best padding for attention, and at worst the entire thing was false. We will never know.

I've stated before that I don't know if you really are a blackjack AP or not. Maybe you are, maybe you aren't, and maybe you are but some of your stories are exaggerated. Again, we will likely never know.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

BTW - I wish you would delete some of your inbox so I can exchange some info with you and Mdawg.

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Now lets tackle THIS little piece of lunacy. Account, requesting deitz clear out some space so he can join the behind the scenes troll strategizing against me.

I have long known Dawg and account do this behind the scenes because account repeats Dawg lies and talking points. Plus, once account let it slip that they do. Now Account wants to bring deitz into the behind the scenes troll strategizing mix. Bring Singer in too.

Do you realize how fucking crazy it is for you to be strategizing privately about how you can troll and attack someone. Do you really think that is "normal" behavior" or do you think that might be some kind of compulsive obsession with someone. Dawg has a long history of working people behind the scenes trying to get them to say or vote a certain way in a poll. He is a complete nut case. AccountinQ, you have tied yourself to the wrong horse....or Dawg, or Troll. he is making you look as completely insane as he has proven to be.

SmurgerB, I can even tell you exactly where the $25 table was located. When you walked in the front door there was a blackjack table. Going counter clockwise in the pit there were 1 or 2 more tables on the west side which of the pit which would be the side closest to the cage/players card. These $5 & $10 tables were always filled with guys that looked like frat boy removed by 5-10 years. And there was a roulette table and craps table mixed in. But everything open was on that one half of the pit.

The $25 table was on the complete opposite side of the pit. Sort of the southeast corner of the pit and would have been near the Steaks and Shakes. (I am not sure the Steaks and Shakes was there during the Hooters years or during ALL the hooters years). It was the only blackjack table on that side of the pit. And it wasn't open all the time.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

A high pitched soft whine, ever rising in frequency and volume.

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https://i.imgur.com/3nmNeg9m.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ozzy

I don't whine like a fairy and have my panties in a bunch, like a repetitive whining UNKOOL poster.

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Originally Posted by mcap

You are literally the easiest person in the history to troll. Spin you up like a top and away you go.

You know why? Because your panties are always in a bunch..

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I am the same guy

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This homosexual is a closeted retard.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I am the same guy

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This homosexual is a closeted retard.

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This PEDO is a copycat. Can't even come up with his own shit.

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Bbbwwwaaahhhhhh, the kewl-groomer makin the scene with yet more bulls-shits narrative, hey hey!!!!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I am the same guy

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This homosexual is a PEDO.

I only read like the first 2 pages, but anyone that always talks negatively about card counting usually comes from a place of bitterness. That's what I've always come to realize. It's the guys that wish they were good enough to do it, but never were able to, so they use excuses like "It's not worth my time". "It's so boring", "There's so much heat", "There are better things", etc. etc. The last one is interesting because yes there are better things, but those are usually temporary. Very few AP'able things have lasted the test of time like card counting has and nothing has also brought as much negativity about it whether from casinos or from AP's. That's when you know that type of play has struck a cord with people. Nothing just strikes a cord for no reason. It strikes a cord with so many people because it's a legitimate and a very threatening form of play that although casinos mostly overreact to, they also understand how good it is and how they cant just take it away. Also the 'so much heat' argument that I always hear from people always cracks me up. These guys dont know or didnt know what the fuck they were doing and/or had very little discipline to grind it out, so they end up failing with excuses about how bad it is, how it's not possible to do it long term, or how there's so many better things out there. The actual truth of the matter with counting is that it actually takes discipline, skill, bankroll, as well as critical thinking to know how to get away with it, and most people dont have all of that. A lot of AP activities do not require all of these variables. There's a lot of shit out there that attracts all form of wannabe APs where you can have leaks in your game and still get away with making money or at least some money at it. With counting there's no part of it where you can have any leaks whatsoever without giving away your edge or going bust if you plan on doing it for a living or for any amount of reasonable time. This is why card counting gets such a bad rap. It's because so many people failed at it and use excuses as to why they don't do it anymore or never did it in the first place. In my opinion, if you do it right and have the right approach, which takes a lot of studying and time to understand how to exactly do it right, it's still one of the best form of AP plays out there, plain and simple.

There's a part of me that wants to go back to blackjack as I added something to my game that should keep me well under the radar for an indefinite amount of time while still getting the money with very little added risk, while also keeping n0 relatively the same. I'm currently working on a different angle that seems like it's going to pay off big, so as of now blackjack is in the rear view mirror, but if I ever do go back, I have a decent plan of attack that should work as long as I mentally don't act like an idiot like I did in my first 7 years of doing it. My biggest problem was that I could never get over the paranoia part of casinos cheating me, as irrational as that may sound to people, the variance of the game with the combination of building up a bankroll, while also having expenses, probably just was too much for my brain to endure without venting in a very destructive way. I still wonder about casinos cheating, but looking back, I probably overreacted as my SD's were always within a reasonable level at each property. This does lead me to my next point, which KJ also talked about a bit. The ones who never vent, never show frustration, say all the right things their whole career, and never showed any vulnerable side to them, are almost always, if not always, all fucking frauds. The guys who act like they can do no wrong, have no weaknesses, "Just focus on EV" type of guys, is a massive red flag. Eventually, yes, you want to and should get to the point of just focusing on EV, but if the whole way through, they just talk and act like an 'expert', be very skeptical of those guys, as their whole schtick is to play the part and act like they're an accomplished player to build their reputations, build networks, and get in on the inside. The ones who actually grinded up a bankroll know how brutal it can be and I don't care what AP activity it was to build it. If you never been through the grind, these politically correct can do no wrong types of people can fool you, but the ones that actually went through the grind can sniff that out in a heartbeat. This industry is massively polluted with frauds that talk a big game, but like I stated before, they are bitter and failed APs, so they have to 'sell' something, whether it's selling themselves(not in a prostitute kind of way) but in a reputation type of way, or simply by just selling information in some form or another to make ends meet. Very few people out there can actually say they grinded up a bankroll by themselves and continue to work in a solo capacity. While I don't want to criticize anyone that's ever team played, the ones that usually go that route do it out of desperation and not as a way of scaling. Be very skeptical of people that are constantly doing team plays and have no individual history of playing for any length of time. For the guys who sell information or sell picks, well, those guys are just blatantly frauds.

Zenking, you have become a very good poster. You were always smart and knowledgeable about card counting. But it is now very evident you think fast on your feet and have good common sense and can easily see what drives the trolls and haters on forums.

I am sure you always had all or most of this, but we didn't always see it because you chose only to post immediately after a bad session or experience when you were still emotional about it.

I now really look forward to your posts. This (I will skip the adjective) forum needs more discussion like you now provide.

Have a happy holiday season or what is left of it. Be happy, successful and enjoy life.

KJ

Ps. One thing though is you are really down on players that engaged in team play. I "get" that to some degree. You and I are solo type "lone wolf" players. That is who we are at our core, and what we will always be, even if we get into other areas. BUT you seem to really look down at people that were involved in team play, while I just have the attitude it is not for me, but less looking down on them. (as long as they aren't doing something that ruins something for me). :cool:

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Originally Posted by ZenKinG

Here goes the KJ fraud talking in such a simple tone about how AP works and blackjack. Just how you write about AP makes me cringe, it's almost like you never played a hand in your life. You say all the right things and explain blackjack in such a simple sense when describing the game, it's like you're speaking to a 5 year old about how counting works.

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Originally Posted by ZenKinG

Just the way he writes stuff like "Thats not how blackjack card counting works". Like who the fuck talks like that other than someone that never played or has played almost nothing and first getting into it. Its cringy as hell. Put two and two together. No ones ever met this guy, probably some retard in india posting on the forums looking for attention creating this persona online. What else is new in a community and industry full of degens, scammers, and pathological liars.

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Originally Posted by ZenKinG

The guys who act like they can do no wrong, have no weaknesses, "Just focus on EV"

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Originally Posted by kewlj

Expected Value is NOT an opinion.

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type of guys, is a massive red flag.

the whole way through, they just talk and act like an 'expert'

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Originally Posted by kewlj

KJ BJ expert?

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, be very skeptical of those guys, as their whole schtick is to play the part and act like they're an accomplished player

those guys are just blatantly frauds.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I'm rather certain he has money from something he feels shame over

Most likely a prostitute

Pretending to be some hero AP gives him purpose and a sense of accomplishment.

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You play some on the side but your sugar daddies pay the bills. Fact

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

FraudJ had a highly refined blackjack story that he worked for almost 2 decades before he outed himself as the tunnel dwelling male prostitute fraud that he is.:cool:

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

And now I am going to address this loony toon character ZenKing and it will be for the last time.

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I only read like the first 2 pages, but anyone that always talks negatively about card counting usually comes from a place of bitterness. That's what I've always come to realize. It's the guys that wish they were good enough to do it, but never were able to, so they use excuses like "It's not worth my time". "It's so boring", "There's so much heat", "There are better things", etc. etc. The last one is interesting because yes there are better things, but those are usually temporary. Very few AP'able things have lasted the test of time like card counting has and nothing has also brought as much negativity about it whether from casinos or from AP's. That's when you know that type of play has struck a cord with people. Nothing just strikes a cord for no reason. It strikes a cord with so many people because it's a legitimate and a very threatening form of play that although casinos mostly overreact to, they also understand how good it is and how they cant just take it away. Also the 'so much heat' argument that I always hear from people always cracks me up. These guys dont know or didnt know what the fuck they were doing and/or had very little discipline to grind it out, so they end up failing with excuses about how bad it is, how it's not possible to do it long term, or how there's so many better things out there. The actual truth of the matter with counting is that it actually takes discipline, skill, bankroll, as well as critical thinking to know how to get away with it, and most people dont have all of that. A lot of AP activities do not require all of these variables. There's a lot of shit out there that attracts all form of wannabe APs where you can have leaks in your game and still get away with making money or at least some money at it. With counting there's no part of it where you can have any leaks whatsoever without giving away your edge or going bust if you plan on doing it for a living or for any amount of reasonable time. This is why card counting gets such a bad rap. It's because so many people failed at it and use excuses as to why they don't do it anymore or never did it in the first place. In my opinion, if you do it right and have the right approach, which takes a lot of studying and time to understand how to exactly do it right, it's still one of the best form of AP plays out there, plain and simple.

There's a part of me that wants to go back to blackjack as I added something to my game that should keep me well under the radar for an indefinite amount of time while still getting the money with very little added risk, while also keeping n0 relatively the same. I'm currently working on a different angle that seems like it's going to pay off big, so as of now blackjack is in the rear view mirror, but if I ever do go back, I have a decent plan of attack that should work as long as I mentally don't act like an idiot like I did in my first 7 years of doing it. My biggest problem was that I could never get over the paranoia part of casinos cheating me, as irrational as that may sound to people, the variance of the game with the combination of building up a bankroll, while also having expenses, probably just was too much for my brain to endure without venting in a very destructive way. I still wonder about casinos cheating, but looking back, I probably overreacted as my SD's were always within a reasonable level at each property. This does lead me to my next point, which KJ also talked about a bit. The ones who never vent, never show frustration, say all the right things their whole career, and never showed any vulnerable side to them, are almost always, if not always, all fucking frauds. The guys who act like they can do no wrong, have no weaknesses, "Just focus on EV" type of guys, is a massive red flag. Eventually, yes, you want to and should get to the point of just focusing on EV, but if the whole way through, they just talk and act like an 'expert', be very skeptical of those guys, as their whole schtick is to play the part and act like they're an accomplished player to build their reputations, build networks, and get in on the inside. The ones who actually grinded up a bankroll know how brutal it can be and I don't care what AP activity it was to build it. If you never been through the grind, these politically correct can do no wrong types of people can fool you, but the ones that actually went through the grind can sniff that out in a heartbeat. This industry is massively polluted with frauds that talk a big game, but like I stated before, they are bitter and failed APs, so they have to 'sell' something, whether it's selling themselves(not in a prostitute kind of way) but in a reputation type of way, or simply by just selling information in some form or another to make ends meet. Very few people out there can actually say they grinded up a bankroll by themselves and continue to work in a solo capacity. While I don't want to criticize anyone that's ever team played, the ones that usually go that route do it out of desperation and not as a way of scaling. Be very skeptical of people that are constantly doing team plays and have no individual history of playing for any length of time. For the guys who sell information or sell picks, well, those guys are just blatantly frauds.

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Card counting is what it is but clearly you can have leaks and still make money. It is not some steely eyed test that separates the perfect men from the imperfect children.it is like all gambling.

You razz those who speak poorly of counting but then do the flipside.

To be clear I think counting is fine. Could be fun. Some people are in the right spot and makeup in life to try it full time professionally but I'd never recommend that. As a weekend warrior AP thing then sure go for it. Move to LV and commence grinding? Uuhhhhh even if you can pull it off - Look at that grind and think long and hard whether it is a good move.