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I have proved you're a fraud. Well you did with my help....LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
What have YOU ever proved MaxPen? Post your bank statement and an up to date accurate picture of yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
I would have no problem posting a pic of a surfboard w/ a fuck off AIQ sign on it or a pic of my supposed buildings pool w/ a fuck off MaxPen sign on it.
It is just that this guy thinks he knows everything about everything when he knows very little about anything and proves it almost daily. Just as he did with the casinos only issue checks for actual winnings argument with Axelwolf and others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
It has become apparent to me and should to everyone else that he looks all this shit up and then regurgitates it as fact when half of what is written on the internet is incorrect.
I will tell you everyone has long known that he doesn't know what he is talking about with gambling, and how to win.
And there are people that are convinced he is not actually wealthy or at least nearly as wealthy as he claims. I have no opinion on that because it just doesn't matter to me.
But one thing I never questioned was that he was an actual attorney, in large part because he seems to know a lot about the law. But in recent months, or the last year, I have come to think that no real attorney would act the way he does and say the things he says, complete lies, about homelessness, prostitution and pacific Islander heritage. Just absurd type lies, even though there are some pretty shitty people attohenry's out there. And we now see some losing their licenses. The things he says and does, violates the how an attorney is supposed to act.... is required to act Complaints filed in his real name linking to the things he says and does on the internet could very well have consequences if he was really an attorney.
And because he has now proven that most of his knowledge comes from internet searches, I really question if he is a real attorney. For me, all signs point to this guy is just another lifelong Internet troll, re-incarnated in this case as he was previously banned as an internet troll. Maybe a troll with some money, but still a very insecure person who trolls people on the internet.
Anybody, who was even 5% of what he claims, wouldn't be punchng down (based on his claims) on the internet to complete strangers.
You didn't maxpen. You proved that I lied about some of the lawsuit portion of a backroom incident and settlement and nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Suppose your friend Michael Shackleford posted that he was going to a resort in Mexico for a week. And it later came out he was in southern California, but he just didn't want people to know where he was for obvious reasons. Would you then conclude that he is not an AP, was not an actuary or anything else that he claimed?
That is what you are doing with me. You and everyone else have always had the right to believe or not believe whatever you want. But this sudden turn on your part isn't even about this incident, the details of which I lied about to protect myself after I had revealed too much, is it? Be honest. That isn't even what this is about?
By "it don't mean nothin'" I mean this discussion changes NOTHING in his, your, our my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgYOU'RE the idiot alongside the UNKewl idiot if you think it means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
So what if it's all a big troll?
His life will continue as before, as will yours, mine, and all the others.
He gets the attention he wants as do you, Robert, and the other hyenas.
Heck dawg, if you didn't have KJ and his claims to investigate 24/7 you might even resume practicing law (bwa ha ha ha).
I stand by it: his claims mean nothin', i.e. jack shit, in the scheme of things: just a sideshow distraction.
Is he telling the truth?
Dunno...maybe...but what does it REALLY matter, given the hostile environment of this board and the Trumpish mindset of most participants?
Funny shit, if you want to know the truth.
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Originally Posted by MisterV
"Enemating" I like, a Joycean touch. Hope it was intentional.
THE UNKEWL CHALLENGE
If this liar can produce evidence that he received a settlement from his made up backrooming incident on the date he claims I will match the amount he received in the ACH. The question just is, what is he willing to put up if he cannot produce the proof he claims exists. Since he "knows" he got the settlement, I'd assume that he'd put up any amount, since he "knows" he will win this challenge?
He doesn't have to meet me, he can provide the proof to the Wizard who will be back in town soon enough and can handle this. Hell, I don't care, he can provide it to MrV if he likes, MrV won't even have to come to Vegas all he will have to do is login to UNKewlJ's meager bank account to see that there is nothing there, barely two nickels to rub together and no record of any ACH from Saturday, 6/24/23. He may change the banking login password to something simple, facilitate Wizard or V's login, and then change it afterwards.
I know such evidence does not exist. It is impossible that he received an ACH after midnight on a Saturday (meaning, after 11:59pm Friday, 6/23/23).
I am in Vegas now and will leave this offer open for one week.
How about it UNKewlJ, is it worth it to you to double what you supposedly got in this settlement, in one blow? AND prove yourself.
You're such a retard. Pure and simple. You have 0 shame. This is why people peg you as a likely prostitute. The absolute lack of any shame. Why wouldn't you be one? You brag about sucking your own dick on a gambling forum then whine that it isn't for you. I don't even want to consider whether that is bullshit. YQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThat is correct. That has been my position for a decade. I am not out to prove anything to anyone, I don't care how simple. I share some of what I do. People can believe or not believe whatever the fuck they want, including the easter bunny, or little green Martians. If anyone has any legitimate questions about something I say, I am happy to try to clarify or explain further if I can without harming myself. Absent of that, people should be able to figure out if I or anyone else knows what they are talking about or are just talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
But of course that is not where we are on this forum. Not where we have been for many years. This forum is about cliques, and clubs and who likes who for whatever stupid reason that has nothing to do with anything said about gambling. It is about who is or isn't Maga or Trumpy enough. Who may be a bit of an ass and talk down to people (redietz), which is an unpleasant quality, but not disqualifying. And finally, apparently who loves and sleeps with who, and whether the judgmental people here approve of that. THAT is what this forum is. Sides are formed, groups forums, people ganged up on and attacked by people who often know nothing about what they are attacking.
This isn't a gambling forum, as the name indicated. This is 3rd grade recess and bullying by a group of mostly aggrieved, older guys who never grew the fuck up or if they did they have now reverted back to 3rd grade recess.
You so so don't know what you're talking about. Real gamblers don't believe anything you've said. You're too mentally ill to take the hint. You just keep coming back for more trying you prove whatever it is about Mdawg.
"cliques". Lol. What clique is that? Just because every regular poster agrees you're totally full of shit doesn't mean they are in a "clique".
I have to wonder what it would take for you to go away and stop trying to prove yourself. Now you're rambling on about sports-betting like you have a clue but you need so bad to show people you are some form of legitimate winning gambler.
A person could write a page everyday over the new nonsense you spew forth.
Shit, I have much more than enough gold to cover this bet without even dipping into any of my bank accounts.
https://i.imgur.com/21Ju4XUl.jpg
I have dozens of these in a safe deposit box, probably enough just at home to cover this bet...I'll fly home to get them for ya', UNKewLyingJ!
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Originally Posted by MDawg
...the fly fisherman wafts the bait into the eddy, awaiting a strike...
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Originally Posted by MDawg
*golf clap*
What will you do for an encore, post a pic of a Swiss watch?
No need to leave anything open for a week. I am not interested.
If you were going to put up 100k if I prove I took a poop today I wouldn't accept. I am just not interested in that shit. (<- :D)
Not that it matters because I just stated my term....not interested under any circumstances. By I would not accept Wizard as arbiter anyway. You and Shackeleford are friends on some level. I believe that is a friendship, you bought and paid for, but whatever. I don't dislike Shackleford or distrust him on all things, although he has clearly lied to me a number of times, but I would not trust him with anything to do with you. The guys signed a NDA for god sakes to not disclose what he saw.
If I was going to accept this, the arbitrator would be an attorney that I trusted, with conditions, set in writing, including that you escrow the money before anything else.
But again, I am just not interested. These kind of challenges are just pissing contests, by insecure people like yourself.
Get some platinum eagles too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Figured. UNKewlJ cannot produce what does not exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
As for the rest of the fustian he just posted trying to Explain His Position...the usual SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble of a...
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There is no chance a professional gambler would turn down that offer.
Why would you need to fly anywhere? What happened to the "mid 7 figure Las Vegas mansion" you own?Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
"pissing contest". Lol. How is that? He is just offering a lot of money for you to prove yourself. Retard shit. There is no contest. People just want to prove that you're real on some level. Thats not a pissing contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Anyway.. TBH Mdawg doesn't really owe this forum the truth about you. Making up shit about you is the same thing you do yourself so why do you complain?
At some point you said Mdawg searches up things on the forums and regurgitates them. Oh man. Anyway.. If I saw projecting you'll start to use that word again.
For some reason you have genuinely started to irritate me. I should not engage with someone as mentally ill as you because frankly you don't operate by the rules of normal functioning humans.
If I post a picture of the Eiffel Tower does that mean I own it?
If someone will pay you several years of your alleged income for posting it, who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
There has to be a fair amount of domestic violence in his household (when he has a household - no wonder his own family kicked him out). Just imagine how annoyed anyone dealing with him would get over his compulsive lying and refusing to back down even in the wake of overwhelming proof against him.
We laugh at him, shake our heads at his stubbornness in refusing to admit when caught in most of his lies, but in person it would be hard to resist (except for the extreme distaste of having to touch the guy) grabbing his peanuty head (he's so wimpy that you'd feel bad about punching him) and shoving him to the floor.
He won't take $$ several times his yearly income for the same reason he had no intention to file a lawsuit. That was until everyone gave him shit but then that didn't turn out so well. It is all fake. All of it.
Ok, I accept. These are my terms.
Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) is who I choose to be the arbitrator, although there will be written conditions, agreed to in writing by Wittless, enforceable by legal action, if necessary.
Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.
I will meet with Todd, take him to my bank and request a print out of my account transactions for the period. This will insure that I am not using some doctored document. I will also allow him to speak with bank personnel, and authorize bank personnél to speak to him about my account, if he desires. These documents will not remain with Witteles after verification, nor be turned over to Mdawg to view at any time, as he has proven he will use whatever information he can to harm my career.
Upon completion of verification, Todd Witteles will disburse to me a matching amount of my recent settlement, from the escrow and return the balance less any agree fee for his participation to Mdawg.
These are my terms. They are non-negotiatable. And I will not spend days and weeks going back and forth as these challenges always do, turning into nothing. If and when Todd agrees to participate, money must be deposited within 24 hours or by the next business day if he agrees this weekend.
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Originally Posted by kewlJWhy would you need to fly anywhere? What happened to the "mid 7 figure Las Vegas mansion" you own?Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
KJ, dontcha see?
He's the great MDawg, so in his mind he can lie with impunity, no consequences: except to those who question his bullshit.
Yeah, dawg, what ever happened to the sin city mansion?
What, the deal fell through when you couldn't convince Wayne to move the jet?
bwa ha ha ... money talks, bullshit walks.
And you put up nothing?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
He's the type of person who will write tens of thousands of words to try make his point, but won't do something simple to prove himself, even if it involves a massive windfall.
That is correct. This isn't a contest or challenge. This is Mdawg attempting to prove something by having me show something I would prefer not to. If he is correct he gets what he wants. But he is going to have to pay for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Finkle
Atta boy, go get 'em, Tiger.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Like I say: "Money talks, bullshit walks," and I think the great dawg is lacing up his Nikes as we speak...
Will the dawg accept KJ's reasonable terms or simply continue to sit in the corner licking his balls?
tick ... tick ... tick ...
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
Easy peasy.....
You are creating a lot of extra noise obviously in the hopes that the whole thing will fall through.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Todd isn't in Vegas. And I'm not paying him or anyone else to do what may be done with a simple login to your banking account. If you want Todd to be the one who logs into your banking, that's fine with me. All he has to do is attest that there is an ACH which may be attributed to this backrooming incident landing on 6/24/2023, a Saturday.
What are you putting up, if you want me to put up $500,000. you will need to do the same. I can do it. Can you?
See here we go. This is what these things always come to. This was your idea Mmutt. Put up or shut up. But I am not going to waste time on this for days or weeks as always happens. If you are so sure, put up. Otherwise it is just more Mdawg bullshit, like the Las Vegas Mansion.
Ok, we have our answer. Just more Mdawg troll games.
There is no "here we go." You have to put up what I put up, the same. Obviously.
Anyway, we did get to the boldface, as predicted!You're like a child, who skulks off when called on something, and then comes back babbling nonsense and saying, So there!Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
If you want to do this thing and you want anything put up in advance, you have to do the same. I know you don't have $500K or anywhere near so just put up twenty grand and I'll do the same, it's a +EV for me since I know you won't come up with any evidence since it does not exist.
You imply the settlement was far more than 20000, so if you're not willing to put up twenty grand to get back a lot more that than, it's because, again, you have nothing to provide, which I know you do not. I'll cover the difference between 20K and whatever that "ACH" :rolleyes: shows.
But at least then you know you're getting at least $20K. If you have $50K to put up I'll put up $50K, whatever.
If you are serious about this, and have the evidence (you do not) you'd at this point beg borrow or steal all you can get your hands on to put up against what you request from me.
**yawn**
So you're saying he has to put up the $ and then you sign the agreement? Or are you saying you will meet with Todd, create and sign the agreement, then have Mdawg sign it? Is that how this supposed to work? I guess Mdawg signs it first, then you sign it, then he deposits the $ ?
THe idea that he should put up 500k for someone who refuses to post a picture of their surfboard is a new level of moronic. Even for you, Kewl. All you'd need to do is avoid it like always, right?
Write it out line by line what needs to be done.
Be reasonable and get that money.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Lol. You literally claimed you broke an arm, called an ambulance but didn't want to sue until people told you how dumb you are for not seeking compensation. Then after the regulars here tell you how absurd it is for a "professional gambler" to not sue, you dug yourself into some deep hole.
This is the same thing. You said no until everyone points out a "professional gambler" wouldn't say no. Then you go off lying about what you will do.
Kewl - I have been rooting for you to show you're legitimate on any level. Lets do it. I can negotiate how this works. Kewl doesn't want to be doxxed. Mdawg doesn't want to go through the trouble of putting up the $. There is a way we can negotiate this which all objectives are met. Lets gooooooooooooo
The funds will have to be escrowed very early on. Because that it the part that never occurs with these situations. Conditions will probably need to be written prior to fund transfer I would think. I certainly wouldn't hand over any money without written conditions, but that is sort of up to Mdawg he can deposit money first if he wishes or conditions written first. But either way, the money must be escrowed almost immediately. I am not going to go on and on and on with this as these things always do. If Mdawg wants to make this happen he has to escrow funds almost immediately. Up against a weekend he has to be prepared to do so Monday at the latest.
This will be my final post on this subject, until Todd weighs in. And after that, this must go down quickly. I will not just allow this be another one of these fucktard troll games.
Idiot is proposing that one side put up in advance all the penalty for the Wager, and the other side not only put up nothing, but even have no penalty for losing the Wager.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The most sane thing is for Mdawg to put up some earnest money or this is the same bullshit as always.
Just like me asking Redietz for a 1k pick'em contest for funs. He just comes back with some crazy thing that he know won't work. This is what Kewl did. (so obvious I shouldn't even state it)
Mdawg just has to put up some earnest money, not half a million. It doesn't have to be your exact settlement amount, Kewl. You are making this difficult when you could likely do quite well for yourself.
Making it into absurd terms is the same as admitting you can't do it. You're the one who is making this turn into some nonsense. Then once again - you project it on Mdawg and others. "This is how these things always turn out".
Well give mdawg a chance to have the egg on his face.
Who are you asking to sign this agreement? It needs your name and such to be enforceable.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I'll put up the same as what he puts up, if that is the stumbling block, but whatever we put up has to be mutually at risk. Obviously. At his end, if he knows that he has the proof of the ACH settlement for his backrooming incident, then whatever he puts up isn't even at risk.
This is a perfectly fair proposal, and if he wants Todd to be the arbiter, that's fine with me too.
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Originally Posted by MDawg
redundant post.
So this is a bet at 1:1 and not you simply offering to have his payout effectively doubled? This is the part that isn't clear to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgI'll put up the same as what he puts up, if that is the stumbling block, but whatever we put up has to be mutually at risk. Obviously. At his end, if he knows that he has the proof of the ACH settlement for his backrooming incident, then whatever he puts up isn't even at risk.
This is a perfectly fair proposal, and if he wants Todd to be the arbiter, that's fine with me too.
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Originally Posted by MDawg
Maybe let Kewl slide a bit and put up less money since you clearly have more financial resources. The money means far less to you. Fairness comes in different ways.
He's proposing that he not only put up nothing! in advance, but even have no penalty.
Yes my proposal is that I will match whatever he got, which will make it so that this fictional amount he received gets doubled, if he can prove that it was not fictional, and landed on the Saturday date he claims.
Nope. For all I know, Mdawg and Todd or any arbitrator could collude, say terms were not met and split my money. So I would never put up a penny on a internet wager, challenges like this. Never have never will. Risk I would never accept.
This was Mdawgs idea. He is so sure, or claims to be that, he has to accept the risk. He has to pay.
And even at that, AinQ is pointing out some difficulties with this on my end. Some risk that I have never and will never accept on this kind of internet shit.
I want to wait and give Druff a chance to weigh in with any interest and possible suggestions. But I laid out my terms and they are pretty much non-negotiable.
Like I said,He made this one sided proposal because he knows that even someone as idiotic as he is would never accept such a thing. It's about a stupid as when he was going on and on about how he protected his privacy by lying about the lawsuit, but could never come up with anything even reasonably plausibly as to how lying about the lawsuit and then retracting the lie protected him in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgIdiot is proposing that one side put up in advance all the penalty for the Wager, and the other side not only put up nothing, but even have no penalty for losing the Wager.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Because it isn't a contest nor wager. This is YOU, stating with absolute certainly that there was no settlement, just as you have with all kinds of other things. You offered to double that amount, for me to prove there was. I am giving you the chance to prove me wrong. But it is going to cost you if you are wrong. That is the way it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Is it a sure win for me? Absolutely. That is the only way I would reveal anything to anyone. :)
again this was your idea. You can accept my terms or not. If you are as certain as you claim, it shouldn't matter.
Now it is friday afternoon, which is the start of my busy part of week (weekend) with blackjack play and sports wagering and watching games. I will be checking in, waiting for Todd to weigh in, but I am not going to just spend hours on this. And Mdawg if you really want this to happen, be prepared to put up the money quickly. If you have to make some arrangements, do so.
Otherwise just fuck off.
Jerk off, no one is going to do a wager where you put up zero and even propose to change the terms to give yourself no penalty. All that would happen is that I waste time putting up money and then you decide you don't want to do it (because you can't). Just more "sure there is a lawsuit, but you can't see it" nonsense lies, where you waste everyone's time.
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Okay how about somethin' simple. Here again is the screenshot of just one of my ACHs from today. I have others I can post, no big thang.
You post the screenshot of your ACH from 6/24, easy to redact, cover up the exact amount the way I did, and I will BTC you $1000. of BTC right then and there. I'll leave this offer open for one hour. Just make it look good UNKewlJ, if it's fake photoshopped nonsense, we will know!
And what do you have to lose anyway? At worst people will laugh at you for posting a fake, at best you'll get $1000. And if I don't send you that $1000. after everyone agrees that what you post is legitimate, I'll be the goat, instead of you.
One hour. It should take you about ten minutes to screenshot it. In your case, you don't even need to redact the sender because you need to show it to prove it's legitimate and involving this fictional backrooming incident.
https://i.imgur.com/qHHtKjsl.jpg
I either have now or have had bank accounts with every major and several minor banking institution in the U.S. and overseas chances are whatever you post, I will know exactly what it should look like.
I'm not understanding here. Mdawg seems to be saying that he will pay you your settlement amount. You claim that your money will be split?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Mdawg, am I understanding here that Kewl would have nothing to lose outside of telling Todd his name?
Again, a professional gambler would never make this so difficult to not collect the money. If you can't negotiate in good faith it is the same as not taking him up on his offer. Don't blame internet wagers for what you yourself are doing.
Lay out your terms. Who would sign this document and when? You have been really vague about this like most things. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. So lay out in steps how you see this happening. Vagueness just suggests bullshit like everyone has come to believe in regards to you.
Kewl, lets prove you are legitimate.
Everyone else understands. I made a simple proposal. UNKewlJ said no to it because he knows he could never win.
So then he came back with a nonsense proposal that he put up zero and lose nothing when he cannot come up with the evidence. Absurd. No one would accept that, and he knows it which is why he proposed it. His proposing something that absurd reinforces that he is lying about all of this, there never was any ACH. If there were, he would put up any amount of money to back up a Wager such as I made.
Rob.Singer taught him well. He's no Singer though. Not even close...RIPQuote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Right. Besides the "I will put up nothing, and I will not give you anything after I lose" he also tossed a $500,000. figure out there for what I'd have to put up.
He wanted to make sure that no sane person would accept, because then UNKewlJ would be stuck.
R.I.P.
On the other hand, as Smurgerburger pointed out,because my offer was something that no sane person would turn down. If he knew he could win, that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Accountinquestion, don't you dare give me your "good faith" bullshit. "Good faith" set sail long ago, years ago, when you and other and you just as much as others in your sneaky little way, began attacking and trying to discredit me on an almost daily basis AND not saying a word and sometimes repeating some of the nasty accusations that you KNOW were not true. Where was your "good faith" or even sense of decency then? So you can shove your goid faith up your ass.
This isn't about good faith, nor is it a wager. This is about trolls that have been trolling me forever wanting me to prove something, which is something I have always been against for anyone, not just myself, since long before this specific issue.
This is a gambling forum (barely), and no one is required to prove anything.
If you, MDawg or anyone else wants me to prove something, you are going to have to pay for that by agreeing to my terms, which will be slanted heavily towards me and me not being scammed or colluded against.
Suck on that Mr Good Faith.
My settlement is an amount that was several years my average earning and that is even probably more than I am allowed to say, but I certainly can't be more specific. A $500,000 escrow will guarantee that amount without me revealing the settlement amount.and the unused will be returned.
Mdawgs proposal was that he would double my settlement amount if I proved it to a 3rd party. THAT is what I am agreeing to by my terms. Nothing more.
At least today at VCT wasn't a total loss. We established in yet another way that UNKewlJ lied about the entire backrooming incident. The impossibility of the Saturday early morning ACH!
Now go back to pretending that you're going to go out and do anything more than push a shopping cart around and whine on VCT about how unfair it all is (when you stop in over there around the 600 block of LV Blvd, for some internet access, that is).
https://i.imgur.com/pb4srmsm.jpg
The FOURTEEN most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (8) the rigged shuffler, (9) the impossibility of the Saturday early morning ACH, (9) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (10) $50K multi hand VP hit, (11) winning a car, (12) lied about whether or not he was gay, (13) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.
That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.
And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!
Perhaps I missed something, but how would this provide proof this was a settlement from a casino backrooming/broken arm?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It could be from life insurance, inheritance, car accident, house sale etc.
If I were to unredact the record of the ACH I posted, you'd see exactly who sent the ACH, or at least enough to identify the source. You'd also see the name of the person or entity that was its intended recipient.
Similarly, if UNKewlJ really did receive an ACH enough about the sender should appear on his bank statement to verify from where it came. He took another powder today on accepting a free $1000. in BTC for nothing more than a screenshot:
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Originally Posted by MDawg
You are so nonsensical none of this makes sense. Read the room. Why do you even post here?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Everyone knows it is all bullshit so yes you were trolled but I believe Mdawg would have probably came through. At least on the amount he put up. You're not a real gambler. You'd have took the money. Nothing about you is real. You've paraded around these forums trying to disprove people FOR A DECADE OR MORE yet you yourself are a bigger fraud than any of them. You are clearly mentally ill. When one sits back from it and asks themselves what would lead a person to do such a thing? It is one thing to just pretend you're a card counter but you coupled it with going after people who actually do gamble.
How would 500k escrowed mean you're not scammed or colluded? I'm missing that part.
It wouldn't. You're just backed in a corner again. Luckily for you there are no more databases to prove anything.
Your lack of demonstrating any veracity works both ways. Don't whine when people suggest you are a prostitute or not even a man. Or any of the other stuff. Like you said, it is the internet. Why would anyone believe anything from you at this point. You are the internet bro, nothing more.
I'd try to broker this deal but it seems that Kewl (no surprise) is going to find a way to back out of it.
RIP
Nice try, but once again EPIC FAIL.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
What we HAVE confirmed is that you are an internet bully who is full of shit.
Of course you'd weasel out...it's what you do.
If someone lies about literally everything and then another person lies about them, can you even say that the latter is a lie? I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVNice try, but once again EPIC FAIL.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
What we HAVE confirmed is that you are an internet bully who is full of shit.
Of course you'd weasel out...it's what you do.
Do you seriously believe that KJ lies about EVERYTHING?
I don't.
To each his own.
For example, here is what a past incoming ACH transfer looks like. This is for a different bank from the one I posted that is "pending" for today. This approx 23K one would have shown as pending starting early in the morning on the 16th, and then the next day, shown with the 16th date, as it does now. It would have been available for use anytime on the 16th.
https://i.imgur.com/fwW2iUSl.jpg
You may go through years of my bank accounts, all different banks, you will never find any incoming ACH with a non-Banking day (such as a Saturday) date on it. It is an impossibility that UNKewlJ received an ACH after midnight on a Friday, "posting" as he claims on a Saturday. He will need to alter that lie at least some to make it even plausible.
Unredacted, you'd be able to tell where this ACH came from, and the intended recipient, same as any ACH transaction record on a bank statement.
His whole story about unavailability of the ACH all day Friday and then suddenly after midnight and early Saturday morning (after 11:59pm Friday) the ACH lands, is absurd. Even a social security payment would not arrive after midnight such that it lands Saturday, let alone a standard business ACH, which those standard business ACHs always land in the mornings of a banking day.
Who gives a flying fuck about the timing of an ACH?
The REAL unanswered question here, Mdawg, is WHEN will you invite us all to the housewarming of the wonderful, multi-million dollar LV mansion you said you were buying?
Fair warning though: if you invite me I'll shit on your bed.
Seems reasonable you put up ~20k and then proceed from there. Then Kewl meets up with Todd. If he can demonstrate ACH transfer on the a certain range of limited dates he immediately gets the $20k. Then Todd will know the settlement amount (sans attorney fees) and will ask Mdawg for the rest of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgI'll put up the same as what he puts up, if that is the stumbling block, but whatever we put up has to be mutually at risk. Obviously. At his end, if he knows that he has the proof of the ACH settlement for his backrooming incident, then whatever he puts up isn't even at risk.
This is a perfectly fair proposal, and if he wants Todd to be the arbiter, that's fine with me too.
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Originally Posted by MDawg
The downside is Mdawg will know approximately the full settlement amount which is something Kewl wishes to avoid.
0 chance the casino tries to clawback the rest of the settlement. 100% they do not want it known they broke a dude's arm like that. The concern there is vastly overstated and bordering on nonsense.
So ultimately the ONLY risk to Kewl would be that Todd doxes him in the future. HOWEVER, Todd has been online for 20 years and is a well known gambler in gambling circles. He would be staking his entire reputation on this if he were to dox kewl or "collude" against him by not paying the $20k immediately upon seeing Kewl's laptop.
Todd would likely need a fee.
Kewl ? If you are a professional gambler no way you would say no to the above unless you have 0 chance of winning.
$20K, $50K, whatever. We both put it up, and the winner takes all.
He can't do it, I don't care WHO sent him an ACH he will never produce one with a date of 6/24/2023, a Saturday on it. When he gave that as the date for the ACH's landing he blew it. He backed himself into a corner by saying that there was no trace of the ACH all day long on Friday, even up until midnight, and then it suddenly "posted" on Saturday early morning (after Friday midnight). He will have to re-think and modify his story to even make it plausible.
MaxPen on the UNKewl one: Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.
lol. The guy has been reading shit on the internet for 10+ years to regurgitate. Of course he is a BJ expert. Why would you believe anything he says? Why does he never give any details? Then when he starts to give details it is immediately bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
At this point he just as well might be a woman in a wheel chair. He lied about something as stupid as surfboard to demonstrate he was kewl and had other stuff to do. I wouldn't believe a damn bit of it at this point and you are naive if you do.
I could see taking your position a few months ago.
The problem is that you're just some random dude who has little to do with advantage gambling. You just see a poor lost soul. The rest of the guys who like to do various gambling to make money just find Kewl's phoney existence obnoxious.
Me? I just sit around all day posting to avoid being productive. This is so much more fun....................
Thank you for posting the screenshot of an ACH transfer Mdawg. I know you weren't trying to, but it did explain something. It doesn't really matter at all, but I think this clears something up for me. The transfer of the settlement money into my personal account does NOT say ACH.
It was always Mdawg that steered discussion toward an ACH transfer, and rules and times that he looked up on the Internet. I knew nothing about what an ACH transfer was. And what I know now it is only because what I have read as a result of this discussion.
So an ACH transfer is a transfer between accounts at different financial institutions that goes to the clearing house because it is different financial institutions. A transfer between accounts at the same institution does not go through the clearing house and is not an ACH transfer. It is an interbank transfer between accounts at the same bank.
So there was an ACH transfer when the settlement money was transferred from the other party to the account that my attorney had set up at my financial institution, but that was weeks earlier. On the day that my portion was transferred from the account my attorney had set up to my personal account, both at the same banking institution, there was no clearing house involved. It was just a bank transfer. The timing of that isn't set in stone, but just when the bank makes the transfer.
Doesn't really matter. But it does clear some things up for me. I will know if I ever get another ACH transfer.
Now just out of curiosity, I looked back 5 years to some deposits of my partners Social security. these deposits also do not specify ACH. The say SSA US treasury. (Social security administration, U.S. Treasury)
So not that it matters but are government checks actually ACH? Just off the top of my head Clearing house (ACH) means something has to clear. Government checks are guaranteed.
Anyway, none of this really matters. I was told on a FRiday morning that the settlement funds would be transferred that day. I checked several times. and just after midnight the funds were in my account. Anything else that Mdawg wants to turn this into is just his usual trolling.
MisterV, think about it. You get on google maps and look up casinos. You can read a bit about them. There are lists of which places have blackjack.
The way this guy spends time on forums he would clearly become a real expert on blackjack. You can get that without any experience. All he has been doing is regurgitating.
I'm not sure he lies about anything but the likelihood any single thing is true is the same across the board. There is literally 0 reason to think anything he says is true. He clearly has concocted this whole persona and even topped it off with his personal mission to reveal those who HE sees as phoney gamblers.
I smoke weed too bro but I can see through the clouds, yanno?
The theory that he might even be a woman makes as much sense as prostitute. If not significant mental illness, it is him trying to escape whatever his reality is. Lets say you're some random person who can't get out into the world. Your escape is to catfish this whole culture. Ok, card counting! that sounds cool. (was cool to me 20 years ago. I read Ken Uston's book.) Gay? Thats kinda hip. Edgy perhaps. Then you couple with the need to legitimize himself by dogging mdawg and singer. That says to me that the whole persona may be completely made up. Go watch the show Catfish on MTV and understand the depth these people go. They always find some cooler persona than themselves. "KewlJ" Even the surfboard was in this vein. Yet even that was almost guaranteed a lie.
He has a few things going for him. Maxpen may or maybe not have seen him. In 10+ years living in casinos you're going to see all sorts of weirdos that might stick out in your head. The only real hard evidence is apparently his IP address is in LV? hmm. That discounts the woman theory and just adds to the prostitute theory.
We'll never know.
You know what V, this is correct. Mdawg skillfully not only doesn't answer any questions about "the mansion", but he doesn't even acknowledge any questions about The M-mansion. This is an old troll trick.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I will engage in no discuission about any topic past, present of future, with Mdawg until he addresses the disappearing mid 7 figure Las Vegas mansion.
I would give you a solid A- for pulling this one out however very unlikely attorney is sitting around at midnight logging into his bank account to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
BTW none of my ACH transfers have ACH in the description. Just a name of recipient and the confirmation #.
Can someone give me the over/under on this please....Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Like I said,
but, his re-thinking and modifying didn't help his lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
First of all, as noted, the incoming ACH doesn't always have the designation "ACH" on it.
With some banks it does
https://i.imgur.com/qHHtKjsl.jpg
with others it does not (the word ACH does not appear anywhere on this ACH):
https://i.imgur.com/fwW2iUSl.jpg
But a transfer of funds from one's bank account to an external bank account is still an ACH, and the same rules apply, and it won't land "just after midnight," and definitely not at all on a Saturday.
ACH means "electronic fund transfer made between banks and credit unions across what is called the Automated Clearing House network." A direct deposit, a transfer between your bank account and to another bank account that does not belong to you, funds sent to you by a credit card processor, all are all ACHs.
Anyway, as predicted he had to re-think and modify his story. Obviously he spent the last couple hours doing some furious research to think about what lie he could come up with to try to salvage this wreck. Obviously did not go to any casinos for any play as he claimed he was going to either. :rolleyes:
This story, doesn't change anything other than prove that he's trying desperately to change things to make it seem like something actually arrived at his bank. It did not. To set up a transfer to an external account, requires verification. Otherwise, anyone could just link to anyone's account without any authority.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I won't get into what exactly is required, but I'll let UNKewlJ spend some more hours trying desperately to dig into what he has to say to try to save himself.
And even so, such a transfer is not going to happen on a Saturday. It would have been deferred until Monday. By sticking with the portion of the lie that says that it wasn't there until Saturday, he killed the story, even in its later iteration.
And what he is now pretending to describe, in his new version of the story, is still an ACH.
https://i.imgur.com/RWVt7Etl.jpg
What a fucktard!!! Gay is kind of hip? Kind of edgy? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Granted being gay has been a little more tolerated in my lifetime than in generations before me. Those poor bastards (the stonewall generation) were beaten and killed for being gay. God bless them for the courage to fight back. But nothing is edgy or hip. Gay bars and clubs are bombed and shot up, targeted just because they are gay bars and clubs. And gay teens have suicide rates far, far greater than other teens because of all the bullying that STILL takes place.
What a fucking stupid thing to say.
On gay and blackjack: There was a very brief time, I was considering and even tried out a kind of gay flamboyant, act at the tables. This was 12-15 years ago. The thinking was it would look bad for pit folks to single out the gay guy and might buy you something. I actually know or know of a straight card counter that used this act and thought it helped him. But in the end, Everything I came up with as my plan of attack was about drawing as little attention as possible.....about not rocking the boat and this wasn't going to fit with that long-term plan and style. This would make one more memorable. So I abandoned it.
Now that bullshit that everything I know and share is from reading is just that. It is bullshit. I have shared some things I do, tracking a second table, spreading both ways, card counters basic strategy, bet spread, and the different thresholds that draw attention. And these are only a few. These aren't things found in any book, and most not things often discussed on forums. These are things you learn by playing and maybe some other players share via networking.
If you can't tell the difference, I wonder about your skill of reading people, especially since it was recently revealed you play poker.
What you are suggesting is just so preposterous, I have to ask, are you serious or are you just so entrenched in trolling me, that you have lost touch with reality.
And finally, your comments going right back to preposterous shit, like he is a woman, almost answers that last question. I took you as a serious person for a long time. A decent person. You are neither as far as this forum activity, you are no different than a Rob Singer or Mdawg with your trolling. Maybe even worse because you are a sneaky little piece of shit. A coach belly element to it.
What I should have done, is placed a wager on this:
Once confronted with the problems with his story, it was obvious that he was going to have to come up with a different version of his lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
But, would anyone have taken the action on the other side? I don't think so!
IT HAPPENED ON A FRIDAY!!!!!!!! How many fucking times do you have to be told something!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
It showed up just after midnight. Actually, I don't know when it showed up, so let me correct that. I first saw it just after midnight.
Now next post guess what Mdawg will say? ACH transactions don't happen on a Saturday. Stupid fuck!!!
33 mins.
Not bad....
KJ: The sky is a beautiful bright blue today.
Mdawg: You are lying, the sky is never kelly Green.
KJ: I said blue.
Mdawg: caught in another lie about the sky being kelly green.
This is what plays out over and over and over.
Now what happened to the Las Vegas M-mansion you made up?
Trying out my new signature.
Today:
Three months ago, posted at VCT on a Saturday:Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Follow up clarification from three months ago:Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
We could have predicted that we'd have a THIRD version of the story, when the heat was on. Now he's trying to claim it wasn't an ACH at all (even though even what he describes in his latest version of the lie, an external bank account transfer, is still an ACH), and that he's not sure if it landed after midnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I mean shit, the guy has never gotten an ACH in his life and never for this amount, and yet he's completely hazy on the details on when it even landed. He couldn't just login to his bank, scroll back a couple months, and look?
UNKewlJ given that even an external bank transfer IS an ACH, even a transfer within the same banking institution to an external account is an ACH, and that the ACH system for standard business ACHs shuts down at 3:30pm PST, HOW did you get that ACH, even between 9pm PST and 1:30AM PST? How?
https://i.imgur.com/hZ7c0m4l.jpg
I am sure that the newest version of the story will be that it posted on the 22nd, a Friday, and not Saturday the 23rd.
Funny how UNKewlJ's memory is so fuzzy when it comes to the biggest single pay day of his life.
It's at this point, after the little putz refuses to 'fess up even after lying and changing his lying story multiple times, that he gets his peanuty head shoved into the sidewalk.
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Originally Posted by MDawg
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...rooming/page35
Liston mansion boy. I never wrote a word about ACH transfer. Above is a link to where I posted about the funds (post # 697). Not a single mention of ACH. Why would I as I know nothing about that. It was YOU who came up with that ACH stuff, on another forum no less. I assumed you probably knew what you were talking about and set out to figure why the payment hit my account in the early morning hours after midnight.
Turns out my mistake was thinking you knew anything about which you were talking about, because this wasn't even a ACH transfer. It was a transfer between accounts at the same banking institution. And it hit the account just after midnight because.....it hit the account just after midnight. That is when the transfer either took place or was posted. I don't care which. THAT is when it showed. Everything else is just Mdawg fucktard shit.
You are just a fuck up....a total waste of your fathers sand nigger sperm. probably NOT the first time you have heard that. I'll bet daddy told you this many times didn't he?