Alan: This person HAS to leave here tonight forever

Alan

What this person just said about someone's Mother is just unacceptable.... Tell you what if he said that crap to me, I'd find him tomorrow.....

This is a forum, where we are supposed to be men.... How dare anyone bring someone's Mother into this is just wrong... He is a gutless prick

This is what he wrote and posted in the Sportsbetting thread

" bed down your toothless hick mother"

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Quote Originally Posted by LoneStarHorse View Post
slobdinger

I no longer have any interaction with Rob on this forum.. Now if he ever wanted to meet me face to face and talk crap to me (very doubtful) that I'd entertain.. He's like that little kid who's looking for attention I feel he wasn't breast fed as a baby....
You need not waste your time responding to me or anyone who can't help responding to me. You need all the time you can get to continue being a degenerate gambler who has no clue when to bet on NE.

Mickey my pal---I'm no handicapper and have never been. I simply posted all of my sports bets to show up Fezzik, which I did. Compared to him you'd be a slice of peach pie. And I kinda picture you running around in circles trying to figure out who to bet on, with your pencil scratching behind your ears and a good sized bottle of aspirin nearby. I also see you as hitchhiking to Alaska to bed down your toothless hick mother....when you can afford it, that is.

You're a hard living mess-of-a-man. Thank you for escaping to Montana.

Rob goes after people's relatives for some reason. I have no idea why. It doesn't accomplish anything other than to alienate readers.

Unfortunately, no one takes Rob seriously anymore. He has destroyed himself.

I'd say very few people ever took Rob seriously. If you (Alan) have now seen the light (that is, Rob is a phony), you should remove all the Rob Singer videos etc. from your website's main pages.

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Originally Posted by RS__

I'd say very few people ever took Rob seriously. If you (Alan) have now seen the light (that is, Rob is a phony), you should remove all the Rob Singer videos etc. from your website's main pages.

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No, I won't remove them. I stated clearly what my purpose was for having his videos here. It is the ONLY source of his special plays and the only video demonstration of them. It is clearly stated that I don't follow them, nor do I follow his strategy. They are there for information and not as an endorsement. They won't be removed.

A lot of viewers here but not that many posters. They don't want to become a target of crackpot Rob Singer. He's the laughing stock of the gambling fofums. Pure crackpot.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

No, I won't remove them. I stated clearly what my purpose was for having his videos here. It is the ONLY source of his special plays and the only video demonstration of them. It is clearly stated that I don't follow them, nor do I follow his strategy. They are there for information and not as an endorsement. They won't be removed.

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If it was valuable "information" then I'd understand....but does absolutely no benefit to anyone to watch those videos. You're allowing someone to freely spout lies on your website & forum. You being a journalist/reporter, I'd think you'd only want to give your clientele the truth, not spit out lies. (Reminds me of common news programs, where their agenda is to get more listeners.) Do you think there might be a reason why no other legitimate gambling forum or website allows him to post?

I'm very upset that there was nothing done in allowing this person to disrespect someone's mother... I'm very fortunate to still have my Mom she's 90 years old.. There is NO way I'd ever allow anyone to disrespect her in public or on one of these forums.. Especially from a gutless prick that if you met him in public he wouldn't utter a word....

I will now think over for the day to see if I will continue in here...

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Originally Posted by LoneStarHorse

I'm very upset that there was nothing done in allowing this person to disrespect someone's mother... I'm very fortunate to still have my Mom she's 90 years old.. There is NO way I'd ever allow anyone to disrespect her in public or on one of these forums.. Especially from a gutless prick that if you met him in public he wouldn't utter a word....

I will now think over for the day to see if I will continue in here...

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Therein lies the problem with internet forums: how to deal with trolls, keyboard warriors, the mentally ill, etc.

Rob would seem to be a sad, lonely old guy that shows jealousy towards those with the bankrolls to play at a level he can only dream of. More money than him equals degenerate gambler.

Unfortunately, public postings open one up for this kind of feedback. Alan seems protective of Rob, even to the point of taking abuse about his own gambling and private life. Since this is Alan's forum, I'm guessing your threatening to leave is not going to have the desired result.

I agree, if I were Mickey Crimm, I would be planning a trip to Pahrump NV at my earliest opportunity, on the other hand Mickey seems to keep coming back for more, so I don't know who is more at fault there.

Although I do find Mickey's story much more compelling, his has a ring of truth to it. Rob's story, not to much. I did notice when Mickey started getting some positive feedback to his stories, Rob upped the personal attacks. More jealousy.

Hang around, ignore the trolls.

james40

Whatever I choose to do won't effect anything on this forum, I've always said family members are off limits to be bad mouthed...
I did realize Alan looks after his "pet rock" but as you stated this is his "home" he's free to do whatever he wants with it..

I believe Mickey 1,000% I to enjoy his bluntness, would like to meet him one day share a few drinks and gamble with him

Thank you for the words of advice as I do with every decision in life I look at the entire picture.. The positives have to outweigh the negatives...

Many positives in here, but the one negative currently outweighs them

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Originally Posted by james40

Therein lies the problem with internet forums: how to deal with trolls, keyboard warriors, the mentally ill, etc.

Rob would seem to be a sad, lonely old guy that shows jealousy towards those with the bankrolls to play at a level he can only dream of. More money than him equals degenerate gambler.

Unfortunately, public postings open one up for this kind of feedback. Alan seems protective of Rob, even to the point of taking abuse about his own gambling and private life. Since this is Alan's forum, I'm guessing your threatening to leave is not going to have the desired result.

I agree, if I were Mickey Crimm, I would be planning a trip to Pahrump NV at my earliest opportunity, on the other hand Mickey seems to keep coming back for more, so I don't know who is more at fault there.

Although I do find Mickey's story much more compelling, his has a ring of truth to it. Rob's story, not to much. I did notice when Mickey started getting some positive feedback to his stories, Rob upped the personal attacks. More jealousy.

Hang around, ignore the trolls.

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I used to take Rob's attacks personally. Not anymore. Only a very mentally sick individual could think up all the depraved things he says to people in the forums. He has no depth to that depravity. And, or course, he has no credibilty in the gambling forums. I've tried to make peace with Rob multiple times in the past. It's never worked because he just has this overwhelming desire to trash people. But he is only trashing them in his mind. I believe it's his NPD that causes it. Should anyone take such a person seriously?

I see a new forum poll:

1) Is "Rob Singer" the sweetest man you have ever met? Yes or No.

2) On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate Rob on sweetness?

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Originally Posted by LoneStarHorse

james40

Whatever I choose to do won't effect anything on this forum, I've always said family members are off limits to be bad mouthed...
I did realize Alan looks after his "pet rock" but as you stated this is his "home" he's free to do whatever he wants with it..

I believe Mickey 1,000% I to enjoy his bluntness, would like to meet him one day share a few drinks and gamble with him

Thank you for the words of advice as I do with every decision in life I look at the entire picture.. The positives have to outweigh the negatives...

Many positives in here, but the one negative currently outweighs them

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Well, if Alan were to lose enough members due to his "friends" antics, I'm sure he would show him the door. I've had to do that with friends in the past, sometimes the behavior becomes so boorish that you have to cut ties in public.

What are you looking at for next weeks NFL action?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

No, I won't remove them. I stated clearly what my purpose was for having his videos here. It is the ONLY source of his special plays and the only video demonstration of them. It is clearly stated that I don't follow them, nor do I follow his strategy. They are there for information and not as an endorsement. They won't be removed.

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Rob's "special plays" are nothing more than selecting a hold with a lower EV than the optimum hold in an effort to try and get lucky.

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Originally Posted by redietz

I see a new forum poll:

1) Is "Rob Singer" the sweetest man you have ever met? Yes or No.

2) On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate Rob on sweetness?

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I've decided the best way to approach he who shall remain nameless is to ignore him. If he has full blown NPD, we give him satisfaction by continuing to talk about him. Ignore him and it will drive him crazy.

I propose we only refer to him as "little man" on this forum from here on out. It should drive him totally batshit.

I've said it before: this forum costs me money. My main business is TV. I have no problem shutting this forum down.

I will not remove Rob's pages. There needs to be a record of what he said. I won't burn books I don't agree with. Don't mention censorship to a journalist.

Those of you critical of Rob's strategy are able to criticize it here.

Do I think he is obnoxious, childish, offensive and insulting in his posts? Pretty much all the time, yes. All he is doing is digging a deeper hole for himself. He will find hell but I won't censor his ideas.

James there is no need to refer to him as "little man." Just ignore him until he has something constructive to say. I have a perpetual calendar -- it might take that long.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

James there is no need to refer to him as "little man." Just ignore him until he has something constructive to say. I have a perpetual calendar -- it might take that long.

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Alan, there is no need, just a preference.

The continuous digs at Arci's late wife you could let slide, but you think "little man" is going a bit too far?

Alan

If it's not that personal how much does the forum cost you a year??

I'm a firm believer of NO censorship, but common decency is expected... Especially when it's about someone's Mom..
Now if he was to say my wife has a fat ass, I wouldn't get upset at all... Because she doesn't ...

I can go toe to toe with insults with anyone, but at no time I'd bring up someone's family

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I've said it before: this forum costs me money. My main business is TV. I have no problem shutting this forum down.

I will not remove Rob's pages. There needs to be a record of what he said. I won't burn books I don't agree with. Don't mention censorship to a journalist.

Those of you critical of Rob's strategy are able to criticize it here.

Do I think he is obnoxious, childish, offensive and insulting in his posts? Pretty much all the time, yes. All he is doing is digging a deeper hole for himself. He will find hell but I won't censor his ideas.

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Alan

He IS a little man because if he was standing next to any of us he wouldn't say 95% of what he types... That's a little man

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

James there is no need to refer to him as "little man." Just ignore him until he has something constructive to say. I have a perpetual calendar -- it might take that long.

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The forum costs me $400 a year to run... and a lot of time. If anyone would like to buy the forum and take it over and run it their way -- or shut it down -- let me know.

My income from the forum is ZERO.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

The forum costs me $400 a year to run... and a lot of time. If anyone would like to buy the forum and take it over and run it their way -- or shut it down -- let me know.

My income from the forum is ZERO.

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Once per year: $5,000 marker in Vegas, Rob's ARTT with $400 win goal. It will work 9 years out of 10, won't it?

Alan

I'll pitch in $200 don't want any ownership or perks... Tell me how to send you the money...

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

The forum costs me $400 a year to run... and a lot of time. If anyone would like to buy the forum and take it over and run it their way -- or shut it down -- let me know.

My income from the forum is ZERO.

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LoneStarHorse,

Really, I wouldn't get worked up over anything the "little man" has to say.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Actually, I know that what Rob does online is all an act. There -- I've said it. It's an act.

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Alan is friends with him, and at times I think the entire forum is fodder for some elaborate inside joke between the two of them.

Alan says Rob's online persona is all an act. That means it's make believe. There's no more point in giving ANYTHING "little man" has to say a second thought.

What's "true" and what isn't?

His IRS son-in-law? His Arizona storage locker with the secrets of the Universe? His $100,000 wins per year for 10 years? His special plays? Him deducting $100,000 worth of dinners and groceries yearly for 10 years? His jackpot wins? His long time marriage? His multiple RVs and cell phones? His purported W2Gs? His purported tax returns?

Who cares.

As Alan has said, it's all an act.

What a2a3dseddie said above is hard to disagree with. I think Rob won the money he said he won. I honestly doubt a lot of the other stuff. If he offset the winnings on his tax returns he did it with losses. I've been told the IRS doesn't consider any gambler a true winner unless they hit some mega jackpot. Rob could easily have offset his profits with losses. Gamblers have been picking up losing race slips off of racetrack grounds ever since the IRS started taxing wins.

The storage locker also contains the original blue prints for the pyramids, the name of the second gunman, and the map to find Jimmy Hoffa and this is why Rob won't reveal its whereabouts. Also -- and he didn't tell us this before -- the real Mona Lisa is in his storage locker and the one in Paris is a fake.

Yes, I honestly believe Rob won money playing high limit video poker. When you play high limit VP you can win $100,000 a year.

I have no idea and can't possibly imagine why he took on the Internet persona he did. It troubles me.

About having multiple RVs: Maybe he rented one. Maybe he just got carried away with his claims. Or maybe it's true. Does it really matter? I don't care. Just like I don't care who has a boat and who has a dingy and who lives in a big house or drives a new car.

The only thing I care about is information that could help someone win. I can't find fault with the idea that you walk out of a casino after hitting a big winner. I don't endorse his special plays but I can understand how they might help and I've admitted to using a special play once in Triple Double Bonus (had three As with a kicker and dropped the kicker -- didn't matter) and once in Bonus Poker (broke up a full house with three aces and got the fourth ace).

Rob created a mess for himself. He's had "fights" with others on this forum and others but it's hard to tell who threw the first punch.

He's not crazy but he posts crazy things. He's been warned and I said it to him in phone calls and face-to-face that he should stop -- but he didn't.

I stand by this phrase -- and it's something I told him: He is his own worst enemy.

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Originally Posted by LoneStarHorse

Alan

I'll pitch in $200 don't want any ownership or perks... Tell me how to send you the money...

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Thanks but I want to sell the whole thing. Your offer of a $200 contribution is appreciated but won't help me sell this.

How's this I'll give you the entire $400 but I don't want any ownership at all... You keep running it

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Thanks but I want to sell the whole thing. Your offer of a $200 contribution is appreciated but won't help me sell this.

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Originally Posted by LoneStarHorse

How's this I'll give you the entire $400 but I don't want any ownership at all... You keep running it

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I don't understand what the $400 is for? I don't want contributions.
If you want to make changes to how it's run here's your chance -- buy it. Make me an offer. LOL

Alan

As I stated I don't want to run this forum, was just helping you out with a donation...

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I don't understand what the $400 is for? I don't want contributions.
If you want to make changes to how it's run here's your chance -- buy it. Make me an offer. LOL

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Originally Posted by LoneStarHorse

Alan

As I stated I don't want to run this forum, was just helping you out with a donation...

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Thanks. No donations needed.

Tell you what if you really want to sell it and one of the current members would run it, then I'll send Alan the $400... Of course "little man" could not be the person running it...

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Thanks. No donations needed.

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Alan. If someone can win $100,000 at vp playing high stakes then a quarter player should be able to win $10,000 maybe $20,000 per year playing sub optimal pay tables, correct?

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Originally Posted by LoneStarHorse

Tell you what if you really want to sell it and one of the current members would run it, then I'll send Alan the $400

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It's costs $400 per year to run the forum...he may be looking for more than that to sell it.

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It's costs $400 per year to run the forum...he may be looking for more than that to sell it.

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Frankly if I could get my money back I'd sell this. I've been running it for about 6 years.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I will not remove Rob's pages. There needs to be a record of what he said. I won't burn books I don't agree with. Don't mention censorship to a journalist.

Those of you critical of Rob's strategy are able to criticize it here.

Do I think he is obnoxious, childish, offensive and insulting in his posts? Pretty much all the time, yes. All he is doing is digging a deeper hole for himself. He will find hell but I won't censor his ideas.

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The problem Alan is Rob's videos remain front and center while criticisms fade away. If you remember I completely debunked many of Singer's special plays several years ago but no one could find those comments anymore. So, in fact, you are advertising Singer's lies while the factual responses fade away. Not very journalistic of you.

Actually, Rob debunks his own special plays. He says upfront they are at a disadvantage. What else do you need to say? He just says it gives him a chance to get lucky. Either he gets lucky or he doesn't. End of story.

Alan, you are a great person. They can never take that away from you. But your friendship with Rob reminds me of the John Steinbeck novel "Of Mice And Men."

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Actually, Rob debunks his own special plays. He says upfront they are at a disadvantage. What else do you need to say? He just says it gives him a chance to get lucky. Either he gets lucky or he doesn't. End of story.

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What I showed is many of his plays reduce his chances of getting lucky. End of story.

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Originally Posted by arcimede$

What I showed is many of his plays reduce his chances of getting lucky. End of story.

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You're right. Now a reality check: even Rob said he chose to make a "special play" only 5% of the time.

My honest opinion: he rarely used a special play. And that 5% of the time that he mentioned -- I'm thinking it was 5% of the time when he could make a special play or the conventional play. So what tiny percentage of VP hands might that be?

I think his special plays were "headline grabbers" that factored very little into his real results. After all that last $50,000 win he showed us -- was it a "special play"? No. And he said he didn't even consider using a special play.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

You're right. Now a reality check: even Rob said he chose to make a "special play" only 5% of the time.

My honest opinion: he rarely used a special play. And that 5% of the time that he mentioned -- I'm thinking it was 5% of the time when he could make a special play or the conventional play. So what tiny percentage of VP hands might that be?

I think his special plays were "headline grabbers" that factored very little into his real results. After all that last $50,000 win he showed us -- was it a "special play"? No. And he said he didn't even consider using a special play.

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Still doesn't change the fact he was playing negative games. I had several W2Gs in 2014 in just 3 months when I didn't win a cent. This past year I had over 100 W2Gs and while I won, all it would have taken is about 10 fewer to have netted me a loss. I played just a little over the return of the game. Singer claims to have played games with a 98-99% return. Even if he would have been as lucky as I was he would have still lost.

In fact, why believe anything he shows. It is easy to walk around a high limit room and take a picture of someone who got a lucky hit. It is not evidence of squat. The only evidence that Singer could have provided is his tax returns and he refused. I wonder what kind of special play that is?

It will probably take a road trip, Alan. It will probably take you and Singer being isolated together. You and Singer being isolated together and watch his colors come out. Once he gets you isolated in that spot, maybe a camping trip or whatever. Once he gets you isolated good enough, Alan. Guess what, Alan, If he ever gets you isolated then you wil be his bitch....that is, unless you got the balls to stand up to it. Guess what, Alan, I know I will stomp a mudhole in a punks ass like that....but you don't, Alan. That's what worry's me about you. You're to damn soft.

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Still doesn't change the fact he was playing negative games.

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Stop right there. People win at negative games.

I happen to be a video poker winner and I only play at negative expectation games.

Unfortunately I also play craps -- where I lose. And I lose too much.

When you have a VP game that according to the math returns 99.2% with "expert play" it doesn't take much luck to get above 100%. In my case I had several weekends with $20,000 royals and then hit one for $100,000. All on NEGATIVE games.

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Originally Posted by slobdinger

You're to damn soft.

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I've been shot at. I've been held hostage. And I've had a knife held to my throat. Did you do it?

Alan

I was two blocks from the World Trade Center on 9/11

You've missed the point here, your friend is costing you credibility.. IMO he's not worth it.. I'm sure you've told him to lay low for a few days after the latest shit storm he created in here

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I've been shot at. I've been held hostage. And I've had a knife held to my throat. Did you do it?

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This LS character will never buy anything here because degenerate gamblers never buy anything. All he can do is blab about comps, making unsupported sports bets, posting pictures of whatever stupid slot machine jackpots that only serve to show what a fool he is, and then when he gets caught making nonsense claims he makes himself look even more stupid.

Mickey, you are spot-on proof that, just as animal-torturing people like scumbag Michael Vick do exist, incest has yet to be irradiated from the decent world.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Stop right there. People win at negative games.

I happen to be a video poker winner and I only play at negative expectation games.

Unfortunately I also play craps -- where I lose. And I lose too much.

When you have a VP game that according to the math returns 99.2% with "expert play" it doesn't take much luck to get above 100%. In my case I had several weekends with $20,000 royals and then hit one for $100,000. All on NEGATIVE games.

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Sure they can "win" at them. Problem is that they can't constantly "profit" from them. Huge difference in those two definitions. This includes all casino games, not just vp.

Little Man

How does it feel to have someone look out for you in here?? What type of man are you?? Just wish we would meet face to face one day....
You are a punk who hides behind his keyboard, tell you what I'll be in Vegas Feb 5th-8th.. Meet me there.. In fact I'll even pay for your airline ticket....
Little man needs a bodyguard, phony prick

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This LS character will never buy anything here because degenerate gamblers never buy anything. All he can do is blab about comps, making unsupported sports bets, posting pictures of whatever stupid slot machine jackpots that only serve to show what a fool he is, and then when he gets caught making nonsense claims he makes himself look even more stupid.

Mickey, you are spot-on proof that, just as animal-torturing people like scumbag Michael Vick do exist, incest has yet to be irradiated from the decent world.

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I'll be there the week before the Super Bowl, LoneStar (I'm a cheap mother). If you and Rob schedule a slugfest, I'll do play by play.

Someone please buy this forum. $2500 and it's yours.

Alan

Tell you what I'll give you my February Booster Free Play $650 ....

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Someone please buy this forum. $2500 and it's yours.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Someone please buy this forum. $2500 and it's yours.

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I'm not sure anyone would touch this forum right now if you PAID them $2500.

Personally, I wouldn't mind going a few rounds with Rob, but he outweighs me by a fair margin, so we'll need an equalizer. Maybe if we both wear gold lame trunks and fight at the overpass between the Cromwell and Caesars. We can charge TR credits to watch. Maybe put Best Buys on the trunks and temporary Best Buys tattoos on our backs.I figure Rob will be less comfortable in the gold lame than me. We'll ban wearing cups, too, so Rob has to cope with a his oversized schlong getting in harm's way during the festivities.

That remark was priceless ........

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I'm not sure anyone would touch this forum right now if you PAID them $2500.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Someone please buy this forum. $2500 and it's yours.

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We still have a happy Valentine's Day post to go!;)

Rob is a straight up punk- Alan likes him for some reason and also his 18 hoes. I thankfully have his picture and can stay far away from him and his nonsense when he plays but all the crap he spews I'm sure he would cry like a baby the second I would tap him in the shoulder next time he plays..... He is probably friends with mr smooth.....
Alan I'll give you 1000 for the forum