Las Vegas city council voted to make sleeping on sidewalks a crime. Bunch of fucking assholes if you ask me. And yes, this is the appropriate subsection.
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Las Vegas city council voted to make sleeping on sidewalks a crime. Bunch of fucking assholes if you ask me. And yes, this is the appropriate subsection.
I am a big supporter of homeless causes. I donate annually to 2 different homeless organizations in Las Vegas and up until 2 years ago, I donated one morning each week doing Laundry at a youth homeless center. So I am sympathetic to the homeless. But the homeless situation in Las Vegas is WAY out of control, as I am sure it is in most other major cities. Places in California and Arizona have been caught shipping homeless people to Vegas with a one way ticket. Like I said, it's just out of control. :(
Las Vegas is about tourism and you just can't have the homeless epidemic that is the current situation, in the downtown and strip (and just off strip) tourist areas. Tourists literally have to step over homeless people sleeping on the sidewalk. Have you been to Main Street along side Golden Gate, across the street from The Plaza? Absolutely disgusting. It will drive tourism down if it hasn't already. And that is the bread and butter of the Vegas economy. You just can't allow that.
In addition to the casino tourist area, homeless is now rampant in all areas of metropolitan Las Vegas Valley, including the nicer areas of Summerlin and Henderson. I watched last months city council meeting on TV, and there were numerous business owners that showed videos of what they have to clean up every morning just to open their business. That isn't fair to these folks who sink their hard earned money into their businesses.
So something had to be done. Obviously these people won't have the money to pay fines, so they will be locked up for 6 months. How is the county going to afford that? I also don't know that criminalizing homelessness is the answer. But I honestly don't know what the answer is. Something had to be done.
Send them to the U.P. They won't be homeless for long. They will either get off the streets or die. You won't find any homeless on the streets in the U.P.
The city parks in Tucson are filling up with the homeless as we speak. It's a migration that occurs every year about this time. The mountain state homeless head south for the warmer winter weather and Tucson/Phoenix are the favorite stops. The hot weather in the spring runs them back north so the city parks will empty out then.
Maybe clean them up and get them jobs instead of throwing them in jail just because they are homeless.... I saw an episode of Mama's Family where Mama ended up in jail (Mama had been at a Rally for a Family Member, but unfortunately, the Police were arresting homeless people and they thought she was homeless too) with her Cousin who had become homeless... Mama was shocked to see her Cousin who used to own a successful business and have a big beautiful house with her Husband end up a Homeless Prisoner. Her Cousin explained that her Husband got injured and couldn't work anymore or something like that , so their once successful business and their big beautiful house went poof just like that. She ended up in jail for being homeless IIRC. Mama went from thinking homeless people only had themselves to blame and not feeling compassion for them to seeing the light when she realized her once successful Cousin was now a Homeless Prisoner because of what happened to her Husband... She also feels sorry when she sees a little girl in jail just for being homeless(I remember posting on another website something like"This little girl is like 9. I find it unrealistic that she'd be sitting in a jail cell for being homeless when she should have been put in Foster Care or something like that".. The little girl's mother said she felt her little girl was better off in jail than the streets.... Hmm...Mama gets to know the Homeless personally amd gets a lot of compassion for them....
A very large percentage of the homeless population have issues such as drugs and mental heath therefore they are not employable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
I'm not talking about people who find themselves in a odd situation.
Good point, but maybe put them in Mental Health Hospitals and Rehab Centers instead of jail...Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfA very large percentage of the homeless population have issues such as drugs and mental heath therefore they are not employable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
I'm not talking about people who find themselves in a odd situation.
Tucson is this state's most liberal city. The homeless migrate there before Phoenix because they're treated better there. It doesn't seem to be a huge problem around here like in looney-toon California, but most of the ones I've seen are drug addicts and/or alcoholics. That right there suggest mental issues.
I'm like Nancy Pelosi on this subject--I pretend it isn't occurring because it doesn't affect me. It's not an easy problem to solve. Lots of these people became homeless on Obama's watch, due to his ignorance, arrogance, and motivating people not to work because of how no one needs to worry since "the Federal Government will take care of you all".
So I have to ask, what is U.P. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest Player
Am I missing something obvious...
Upper Peninsula of Michigan. MWP is a yooper.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSo I have to ask, what is U.P. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest Player
Am I missing something obvious...
Do you really want to sleep outdoors in this weather? Picture is from the snow belt region of the U.P. By the end of winter, the snow will be up to the 6 foot mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSo I have to ask, what is U.P. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest Player
Am I missing something obvious...
Not only Vegas, but elsewhere, as well, they are also trying to criminalize giving homeless people food. Just a passive-aggressive way of eliminating certain people without appearing to be doing so.
Everyone knows you're not supposed to feed the animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.
You were channeling a city supervisor of any major U.S. city saying something to other city staff behind closed doors there for a moment Axel.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfEveryone knows you're not supposed to feed the animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.
Fuck. I knew it was no time before this fucking guy was posting pictures of snow piles in the Las Vegas subsection. And Tasha, fuck off with your stupid long ass story and stay out of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest PlayerDo you really want to sleep outdoors in this weather? Picture is from the snow belt region of the U.P. By the end of winter, the snow will be up to the 6 foot mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSo I have to ask, what is U.P. ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest Player
Am I missing something obvious...
Fuck you Mcap!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcapFuck. I knew it was no time before this fucking guy was posting pictures of snow piles in the Las Vegas subsection. And Tasha, fuck off with your stupid long ass story and stay out of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest PlayerDo you really want to sleep outdoors in this weather? Picture is from the snow belt region of the U.P. By the end of winter, the snow will be up to the 6 foot mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Dan,
Please remove Tasha from the informational thread that was started, for hijacking in post 5 and making ridiculous posts.
I'm totally lost hereQuote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYou were channeling a city supervisor of any major U.S. city saying something to other city staff behind closed doors there for a moment Axel.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfEveryone knows you're not supposed to feed the animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.
You must think this is the WoV or something......lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mcap
I thought this forum if you created a thread and someone is disrupting it you can just have the admin block them from the thread. I start an informational thread, someone disrupts it with a ridiculous nonsensical rambling story post, then tells me fuck you when I tell them not to. Seems justified.
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Originally Posted by AxelWolfI'm totally lost hereQuote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYou were channeling a city supervisor of any major U.S. city saying something to other city staff behind closed doors there for a moment Axel.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Axel, I think tableplay meant that your implied joke about everyone knows you're not supposed to feed the animals was right on the money. Without a reporter or the public around too hear, almost every big shot public official in the big cities will badmouth the homeless in private. I think tableplay was right.
How was that intenional hijacking? I made a valid post about cleaning up homeless people and giving them jobs! I then said that homeless people should be put in Rehab and Mental Health Hospitals instead of jail of jail when Axel pointed out that many homeless people had drug and or mental problems and therefore couldn't be given jobs. I talked about a Homeless Episode of Mama's Family that showed how easy it is to go from successful to homeless Prisoner! That Mama's Family episode was highly realistic and was about Homeless people, so no, that wasn't intentional hijacking....Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
that makes sense, thank you for the explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI'm totally lost hereQuote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Axel, I think tableplay meant that your implied joke about everyone knows you're not supposed to feed the animals was right on the money. Without a reporter or the public around too hear, almost every big shot public official in the big cities will badmouth the homeless in private. I think tableplay was right.
The problem is... we let this s*** get out of hand, it should have nipped it in the bud long ago, unfortunately, I don't think there's any going back no, at least not without some extreme very controversial measures.
Tasha, please, leave this thread alone. There’s no getting rid of that stench.
Fuck you Mcap! :mad::mad: You are even worse than Boz! And I'd rather deal with 1,000 Wizard Of Nothings from WOV from 2017-very early 2019 than deal with one of you!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
Bosox, your interpretation of what I wrote is exactly right.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI'm totally lost hereQuote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Axel, I think tableplay meant that your implied joke about everyone knows you're not supposed to feed the animals was right on the money. Without a reporter or the public around too hear, almost every big shot public official in the big cities will badmouth the homeless in private. I think tableplay was right.
Mental health funding was defunded in the early 80's so many mentally ill people at facilities were released into the streets. And furthermore, it didn't help when the ACLU pushed for legislation which makes it very difficult to help a mentally ill homeless relative/spouse. Unless the person is at your throat with a weapon, you cannot commit the person unless they want to be committed. I understand that you wouldn't want people committing other people out of spite, but there has to be some mechanism in place to get someone help when they can't make sound decisions for themselves for their well-being.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfthat makes sense, thank you for the explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Axel, I think tableplay meant that your implied joke about everyone knows you're not supposed to feed the animals was right on the money. Without a reporter or the public around too hear, almost every big shot public official in the big cities will badmouth the homeless in private. I think tableplay was right.
The problem is... we let this s*** get out of hand, it should have nipped it in the bud long ago, unfortunately, I don't think there's any going back no, at least not without some extreme very controversial measures.
So sad that there is enough money to pay Celebrities millions of dollars but not enough to help out mentally ill people. Tragic.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayMental health funding was defunded in the early 80's so many mentally ill people at facilities were released into the streets. And furthermore, it didn't help when the ACLU pushed for legislation which makes it very difficult to help a mentally ill homeless relative/spouse. Unless the person is at your throat with a weapon, you cannot commit the person unless they want to be committed. I understand that you wouldn't want people committing other people out of spite, but there has to be some mechanism in place to get someone help when they can't make sound decisions for themselves for their well-being.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfthat makes sense, thank you for the explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
The problem is... we let this s*** get out of hand, it should have nipped it in the bud long ago, unfortunately, I don't think there's any going back no, at least not without some extreme very controversial measures.
Please, just stop. Leave it alone. You are ruining what was a serious thread. Boz was right when he called you human garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaFuck you Mcap! :mad::mad: You are even worse than Boz! And I'd rather deal with 1,000 Wizard Of Nothings from WOV from 2017-very early 2019 than deal with one of you!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
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Originally Posted by mcapPlease, just stop. Leave it alone. You are ruining what was a serious thread. Boz was right when he called you human garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaFuck you Mcap! :mad::mad: You are even worse than Boz! And I'd rather deal with 1,000 Wizard Of Nothings from WOV from 2017-very early 2019 than deal with one of you!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
You're the one who started this shit insulting me when I was actually posting serious replies such as how quickly a successful person can end up a Homeless Prisoner and how homeless people need to be helped out, not just thrown into jail!
Can't we just get a lotto pic and all get along:rolleyes::D
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Originally Posted by MaxPen
LMAO! :D Leave it to Maxpen to try to defuse nuclear bombs that are beginning to detonate! :D
Fuck you tasha. I already asked you three times to stop posting in the thread I started.
The homeless camps around downtown LV were broken up years ago over the building of the Fremont Street Experience. They got around "panhandling is free speech" by charging people with blocking the sidewalk. I know someone that was charged with "blocking a loading zone." The loading zone in question was a dock on the back of a business that had been shuttered for years. The bicycle cops would run off people sitting on bus benches if they looked homeless.
Here's one where a woman was charged with snoring too loud:Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1994/02...6088761202000/
It has become a huge problem in most big cities all over the country especially during the summer months. I just think that to get a better handle on a shitty problem they cannot allow people to camp/sleep on the sidewalks or parks. It sounds harsh but the alternative as seen in SF, LA, & Vegas is not the answer. If you allow people to camp in public you get more of it. That is not charity, it’s subsidizing a huge problem and making it much worse. Big problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Not to be argumentative, but I would like to suggest another point of view. Why does everyone automatically assume that being homeless is a problem? The noted Greek philosopher Diogenes had no home and lived in the public square in Athens. Alexander the Great, a student of philosophy, visited Diogenes and asked if he could do anything for him. It was cold that day and Diogenes reply was, "Don't stand between me and the sun". Rather than being angered by Diogenes' reply, Alexander (at the time the most power/richest man in the world) noted, "If were not Alexander, I would have been Diogenes". Buddha and Jesus of Nazareth are other obvious examples.
I wonder how Alexander might have reacted had he seen Diogenes pull down his pants and take a crap in broad daylight right in front of the restaurant window he was eating lunch in....That is the kind of shit you see daily in Downtown Los AngelesQuote:
Originally Posted by The Gentle Grafter
The "Gentle Grafter" would have grabbed a few napkins and gone outside to wipe his ass, while the homeless bum said "If you had stayed inside the sun would have eventually dried out my asshole, making for a tasty crunchy meal for other starving, drug-addicted degenerates like me".Quote:
Originally Posted by KeystoneI wonder how Alexander might have reacted had he seen Diogenes pull down his pants and take a crap in broad daylight right in front of the restaurant window he was eating lunch in....That is the kind of shit you see daily in Downtown Los AngelesQuote:
Originally Posted by The Gentle Grafter
It's an interesting coincidence that you made this remark. Diogenes frequently ended his lectures in Athens by doing just that. So, in truth, Alexander would not have been offended. Diogenes was a gifted speaker and folks just ignored his eccentricities. Of course, they would not have been so forgiving if they knew that fecal matter spreads diseases. I was merely attempting to point out that different people/cultures have different perspectives and we should not assume that someone who is homeless automatically needs assistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeystoneI wonder how Alexander might have reacted had he seen Diogenes pull down his pants and take a crap in broad daylight right in front of the restaurant window he was eating lunch in....That is the kind of shit you see daily in Downtown Los AngelesQuote:
Originally Posted by The Gentle Grafter
Here's a very serious crime (dude's lucky he didn't get the electric chair):
https://twitter.com/i/status/1193615720468406273
So last evening I hit downtown as I do a couple times a week now. I walk from The sweaty Spaniard to The Plaza, hitting a couple places in between and back. So happened it was time to think about grabbing a bite and The best Pizza in Vegas at Pop up Pizza inside the Plaza was calling my name. This placed me exiting the plaza about a block further south than I normally do, up towards the Greyhound Bus station. That area that has grow so disgusting in recent months/years.
To my surprise all those homeless people that had taken up residency along Main Street just up from Golden Gate (across from Greyhound bus) were gone. It is my understanding that new ordinance or law or whatever about homeless sleeping on the sidewalk wasn't suppose to take effect until February, But the city must have used this opportunity to start shooing them away early. Good move.
Fess up kew. You went down there because you know there's always a bunch of sicko queers who hang out in those degenerate places, and you were hoping to pick up one of those short-circuited perverts....just like you.