Todd, as of this morning, is #129 with 836,000 chips.
Doing very well!!!
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Todd, as of this morning, is #129 with 836,000 chips.
Doing very well!!!
Knowing nothing about WSOP (except that a lot of players sublet in my building for several months each year), Druff is #129 out of how many initial players? And where do you need to finish to make some money?Quote:
Originally Posted by jpfromla
Over 10,000 playersQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJKnowing nothing about WSOP (except that a lot of players sublet in my building for several months each year), Druff is #129 out of how many initial players? And where do you need to finish to make some money?Quote:
Originally Posted by jpfromla
about 1,000 left
2023 payouts
44th: $250,000
80th: $120,000
287th: $50,000
Thank you. So Druff's current position might return somewhere around 100k? But then poker players do that thing where they buy and sell pieces of each other's action. Anyway, hope he does well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jpfromlaOver 10,000 playersQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJKnowing nothing about WSOP (except that a lot of players sublet in my building for several months each year), Druff is #129 out of how many initial players? And where do you need to finish to make some money?Quote:
Originally Posted by jpfromla
about 1,000 left
2023 payouts
44th: $250,000
80th: $120,000
287th: $50,000
Go deep Todd...go deep.
Karen and I have been following the Main Event. Usually we buy the broadcast, but not this year. There was an AA hand for Todd with a J-J-x flop that was huge. Wishing him well. Also noticed that the post-WSOP room prices are about as low as I've ever seen. Probably a combo effect of the WSOP ending and the killer temps.
Sum of buy-ins, for 2023?Quote:
Originally Posted by jpfromla
Buy-in: $10,000Quote:
Originally Posted by GarnabbySum of buy-ins, for 2023?Quote:
Originally Posted by jpfromla
Prizepool: $93,399,900
Entries: 10,043
https://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates/?
Scroll down to Horseshoe 568 for updates. It appears things may have turned for him.
Rarely does anyone hear about the massive losses these poker addicts suffer in all the games--live and especially online--they get involved in between WSOP's. It's purely a game of chance to players who don't have access to all the cards being shown on live TV broadcasts in order to be able to use the math as an advantage, and who have to "hope" they get the best flopped cards....while everyone else gets fucked.
A thrill-a-minute....as their families end up frying cube steak instead of ribeyes because of them.
Could you be any more bitter Singer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Anyone that has made any money from the casinos draws your envious attacks.
Pretty obvious who the real degenerate gambler is here. :rolleyes: and envious as hell.
Nothing worse that a bitter, old envious fool.
No need to be jealous or bitter.
My best uninformed guess is that, as Daniel Negreanu famously said, "The people who make a living playing actual tournaments are about as common as birds with teeth." That may be true enough. However, some folks have done analyses of expert poker skill players versus average civilians in something as soft as the WSOP Main Event, and their estimates have mostly ranged from a +200 to a +400 advantage for an expert versus a civilian. In other words, the experts in a real soft no limit hold 'em tournament are likely to, over time, double their buy-in at least. The problem, of course, is that as the buy-in goes up, the skill level of average players in the specific tourney goes up, so at some point you shouldn't be playing them. Classic diminishing returns.
I guess the lesson would then be that they should play just the popular no limit hold 'em tournaments and nothing else if they actually want to be ahead lifetime. No big stakes tournaments, no pot limit, no omaha, no mixed games.
The house is making a fortune on the whole WSOP schtick. No doubt about it. But I still wouldn't turn up my nose at +200. That's likely the softest 10K tournament in the world, so it's not indicative of others. A lot of numbers guys, like Dancer and "Anthony Curtis" have dabbled in no limit hold 'em and spun their wheels, so the whole endeavor is daunting.
I'm blabbing about all this, but I'm strictly a civilian. I've never played in a tournament that cost me more than $100, although I've won my way into $200 to $500 entry type tournaments through feeders. Small tournaments provide all manner of opportunities for team play and signaling. I know nothing, but sitting at some little LV tournaments, I've told friends in the tournaments, "If I say this, I have this. If I do this, I have this." I have to presume everybody does this stuff. You have dealers playing at many of these little LV tournaments (off their home casino), and I have to believe they are all doing some team play much of the time.
We can't all be 9/5 DDB specialists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
You're kinda right about the nl tournaments but also wrong. In plo8 you have people who know holdem but absolutely horrible at plo8. Really there aren't that many no nlhe tournaments so it is all sorta moot.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I don't think cheating in tournaments is much of an issue. Small tournaments seem to be more likely to have cheating but still I've never heard of it being an issue.
You're going to be cheated in the cash games far far more likely. Same players over and over. Preparing to cheat effectively in hopes you wind up in the right situations in a tournament doesn't seem like a sharp endeavor.
No, not everyone is a cheater and you presumed wrong. Most aren't but after you're around poker enough it can be fairly easy to have a guess. For example - people over 25 who think gangsters are cool will readily cheat.
Singer has such little fucking clue about everything. You are surprising in your humbleness in this post and have a decent grounding of whats going on. Singer's post doesn't even make sense to a person who understands even the most basic reality of this stuff.
I'm almost positive I could make 6 figures working considerably less than 40 hours a week. I will see when my app has accumulated more hours but playing poker to "grind" isn't very fun. It is easy to make a living playing tournaments but it isnt' easy to make more than you would applying yourself semi-optimally elsewhere. Actually it depends on volume which is a function of where you're located. I'm a nit nlhe gtoish (in some aspects) player with hella good reading. I crush cash nlhe from what I've seen. I am roughly break-even elsewhere. Cash poker has a lot of politics. I have more than 1 pro put up signficant effort to keep me out of cash games around town. lol. I'd love to say more but I don't care to dox myself to a lurker. Recs like me but they're not poker losers.
The problem with tournaments is the amount of play needed to realize your EV. You also have this schedule to deal with (like a real job) and for big money you have to come back the next day. I won't be able to sleep if I go final table some 10k tournament. I'm getting as long-winded as you Redietz but I've thought too much about poker in my life. If there is one thing I can give solid meta advice on - it is poker. I've considered playing tournaments more. I hate LV too much for WSOP but if I tried I could have fun.
:) If it riled an idiot liar like you up.....MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJCould you be any more bitter Singer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Anyone that has made any money from the casinos draws your envious attacks.
Pretty obvious who the real degenerate gambler is here. :rolleyes: and envious as hell.
Nothing worse that a bitter, old envious fool.
How did it rile me up? Because I commended on your very obvious bitterness and resentment if anyone that really wins? :confused:
Almost every day you prove what a sad end if life existance you have...bitter and full of regret.
regrets. Rob has a few. But he did it his way. (retirement mooching off his kids).
You would be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
No one with any sense cottons to outed compulsively lying sociopaths, making comments on anything, at all.
So, 'git, like you said you would. The End.
Rob keeps responding then when you respond he jumps up and down because he got a response and then claims he has won. Yes, he declares victory when he gets a response. It is nonsensical but demonstrates with clarity where he's headed for the rest of his life. Just go trolling everyone then when they respond - pump your chest. Pure idiocy.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You have a man who has tried multiple times to concoct some story revolving around being a success in life. He has multiple homes - none in his name. Has a safe full of money - everyone can clearly see it is prop $$. He said he had a Newell then when giving a chance to go into a dealership. He won some big lick at VP but forgot the basement reflection and had the weights of the money all confused. (stay out of the details if you bs) So many more I'm not going to even bother to list out.
If people don't believe you then it could readily be argued that Singer has a lot in common with. Infact, I think he is jealous to what degree people believed you (even if they're all trolls now) Since I've been aware of him, he's spent his time attacking real gamblers while making silly claims of his own success from gambling.
Ironically I have taken up cheating. I am trying to sneak chips on the table over the buyin cap. I think one dealer was suspicous. I kept greens in my pocket and would reload. Then after some $$ moved around and a new dealer I put a few more greens.The cap is $300 but everyone else is a scrub and doesn't ask for greens when it speeds up the game a lot. So the greens stick out but they fit in your pocket and are easy to add. The reds would blend in but you have to add half a stack at a time. Maybe get a table change and do it in route? I did it the last time so I'm working on my approach. I play it off dumb and they'll give me a warning. Not that they would care that much but i don't want to ever be caught if I wish to keep doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerYou would be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Translation: pure worry/envy.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionRob keeps responding then when you respond he jumps up and down because he got a response and then claims he has won. Yes, he declares victory when he gets a response. It is nonsensical but demonstrates with clarity where he's headed for the rest of his life. Just go trolling everyone then when they respond - pump your chest. Pure idiocy.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You have a man who has tried multiple times to concoct some story revolving around being a success in life. He has multiple homes - none in his name. Has a safe full of money - everyone can clearly see it is prop $$. He said he had a Newell then when giving a chance to go into a dealership. He won some big lick at VP but forgot the basement reflection and had the weights of the money all confused. (stay out of the details if you bs) So many more I'm not going to even bother to list out.
If people don't believe you then it could readily be argued that Singer has a lot in common with. Infact, I think he is jealous to what degree people believed you (even if they're all trolls now) Since I've been aware of him, he's spent his time attacking real gamblers while making silly claims of his own success from gambling.
AQ, all your guessing only proves how easy it is making you sweat. Maybe if you weren't such a been nowhere/going nowhere loner, you'd be a more capable guesser.
And do you REALLY believe I didn't see the reflection of my son and the stuff on the shelves in the room where the casino located that machine, prior to posting such a horrifying picture that's put a hurt on so many of the little people here? Either way, I got way more than a pound of flesh out of it.
What you and your "I gots nothing else to do, so I'll comment on just about every new post I can find" mentality keeps missing, is how often those with a higher intelligence than you can so easily play you--and at will.
A-Kew. :)
You never noticed it til it was pointed out to you in order to "bust" your claim of a $1.5M win on one VP pull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
V, I just shit a bonus round thanks to the DELICIOUS shrimp and veggie with konjac noodles Thai red curry soup my wife made and served yesterday & today, and I'm feeling super great right now. So even with you pouting about what I had been looking at for several days in amazement prior to posting, along with knowing the amount of irritation it would cause here--which of course, warmed my healthy heart--I'm not only extremely satisfied with your misguided comment.....it's motivated me into feeling like I've gotta drop another deuce.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVYou never noticed it til it was pointed out to you in order to "bust" your claim of a $1.5M win on one VP pull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Keep up the good work! And you GOTS TO train AQ on how to do that properly. Kew? Not so much. All I can think of when his name comes up is aids, him rubbing his dead "boyfriend's" (yuuuk!) hairy fat layers, and his weak heart trying to make it thru his multiple bouts of diarrhea from his multiple covid infections.
So again: please educate these guys as only you can.
AQ, none of you said anything about the safe money being fake.
It wasn't until Boz posted that fake money could be purchased over the internet that you all suddenly became overnight experts on recognizing fake money in photos. LOL
Todd busted out 603rd out of 10K players. Cashed for 30K. A 20K profit.
The thing Rob doesn't get is that at least for me you have to have a tiny bit of respect for someone for them to have much luck getting under your skin. Rob is the opposite of that.
If a man walks out from a bridge and shakes his fist and calls you you names- it does absolutely nothing. Telling people his wife cooked leftovers hes eating today. I had a female friend invite me over for some pasta yesterday she'd cooked THAT day THEREFORE I'm a bigger winner than rob!!!! Lol so stupid
Rob can't win so he makes this ridiculous thing where he says you're a loser for engaging with him. Which is true but not in the way he envisions. Brokeass Monty Burns has never posted a picture of a real anything. Ever.
LOL @ Robs lap dog barking.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Bro, you don't need to be an expert. I'd bought it far before that on ebay but I wound up throwing it away. All my buddies I tried messing with were like ... lol who do you think I am ??? It isn't counterfeit money. It doesn't need expertise to spot. I can find it on ebay if they havent banned the sales of it.
Cuz casinos put games in basements off the gaming floor when you're a high roller like Rob.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVYou never noticed it til it was pointed out to you in order to "bust" your claim of a $1.5M win on one VP pull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Another good run for Druff.
Todd Witteles (chip updates only)
@DanDruffPoker
·
4h
Narrowly avoided busting by making tight fold where I’d have flopped top pair and a flush draw and lost to an overpair. Next hand...
AcQc shoved over late raiser, he snaps with AA. Shit!! But Q two club flop gives me hope. Brick turn, A river. Ugh. Out 603rd for 30k
Wow Rob accomplished something. This says he has made Amazon's choice
https://www.amazon.com/WARM-FUZZY-To.../dp/B00067TAWG
Dan the Man DanDruff and I are actually doing something. As are many others on this site.
UNKewLyingJ...not so much.
You are doing what exactly, sand rat? Oh your trip report of playing and winning 5 days in Tahoe casinos? Yeah, THAT is real. :rolleyes: And appropriately gets zero response from the peanut gallery at WoV. Even with some pictures of casino interiors.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Now what I am I doing? AP-wise only sports betting at the moment, after a lucrative spring playing blackjack machines. Just don't feel like even fighting the heat to play blackjack on the weekends. I make 10 thousand dollars in picks each day and then watch baseball all day. And underdogs and team overs have been kicking ass for the past several weeks, so doing quite well. Of course it isn't really about the winning or losing, it is about getting through the rollover to take advantage of the bonuses. I have made almost 60k doing this since the start of football season last September. And sports betting is only 1 of 5 different advantage play revenue streams this year. So I am doing quite well and really happy with where I am at.
But PLEASE continue to regale us with your GAMBLING stories. Free entertainment. :rolleyes:
Getting this thread back on track…..for one post anyways before the trolling continues. For someone who states they are mostly a cash game player, and Hold’em isn’t their main game, Druff finds a way to last far longer than most year after year. While luck plays a role in poker, the skilled players still find ways to cash more than the amateurs who give it a shot.
“Todd Witteles (chip updates only)
@DanDruffPoker
·
19h
We’ve hit the money. 821k.
In last 14 Mains, I’ve made deep day 3 nine times (2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023, 2024), and cashed 4 of those.
I have never cashed for less than double the min cash.
Best 2 finishes were 88th (2010) and 128th (2019).”
And.... there's the next high 5-figure score. You're getting too predictable kewl, change it up a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionIronically I have taken up cheating. I am trying to sneak chips on the table over the buyin cap. I think one dealer was suspicous. I kept greens in my pocket and would reload. Then after some $$ moved around and a new dealer I put a few more greens.The cap is $300 but everyone else is a scrub and doesn't ask for greens when it speeds up the game a lot. So the greens stick out but they fit in your pocket and are easy to add. The reds would blend in but you have to add half a stack at a time. Maybe get a table change and do it in route? I did it the last time so I'm working on my approach. I play it off dumb and they'll give me a warning. Not that they would care that much but i don't want to ever be caught if I wish to keep doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerYou would be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Well, I may be wrong (cough, cough), but I did watch the series TILT in 2005, which (truth be told) was based on real people and real events. The Michael Madsen character, for example, was pretty assuredly "based on" Doyle Brunson, in case anyone is interested.
As far as poker cheating, I mean c'mon, you can riffle chips like Morse code if you practice a little. I don't even want to consider what I'd come up with to bolster a stable if stablemates were at the same table. With people having pieces of each other and side bets that dwarf the early payouts, you'd have to be a, pardon the Bugs Bunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
to think this stuff isn't ubiquitous. I've played in little local feeder tournaments to little WSOP events in Mississippi, and you had husband-and-wife collusion aplenty. I knew a couple who took cruises just to play poker with the rubes. So to think that actual poker players playing for big money, with serious side bets, don't exercise their God-given right to communicate under the radar, okay, you have much more faith in the common man than me. Maybe not as much experience. But much more faith.
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Originally Posted by The Boz
It`s hard to keep any thread on track with this obsessed fucktard MCunt coming on and repeating the same stupid shit ad nauseum
BUT these people are so inept otherwise that they're still losing value to you. Thats the key part.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIronically I have taken up cheating. I am trying to sneak chips on the table over the buyin cap. I think one dealer was suspicous. I kept greens in my pocket and would reload. Then after some $$ moved around and a new dealer I put a few more greens.The cap is $300 but everyone else is a scrub and doesn't ask for greens when it speeds up the game a lot. So the greens stick out but they fit in your pocket and are easy to add. The reds would blend in but you have to add half a stack at a time. Maybe get a table change and do it in route? I did it the last time so I'm working on my approach. I play it off dumb and they'll give me a warning. Not that they would care that much but i don't want to ever be caught if I wish to keep doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Well, I may be wrong (cough, cough), but I did watch the series TILT in 2005, which (truth be told) was based on real people and real events. The Michael Madsen character, for example, was pretty assuredly "based on" Doyle Brunson, in case anyone is interested.
As far as poker cheating, I mean c'mon, you can riffle chips like Morse code if you practice a little. I don't even want to consider what I'd come up with to bolster a stable if stablemates were at the same table. With people having pieces of each other and side bets that dwarf the early payouts, you'd have to be a, pardon the Bugs Bunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
to think this stuff isn't ubiquitous. I've played in little local feeder tournaments to little WSOP events in Mississippi, and you had husband-and-wife collusion aplenty. I knew a couple who took cruises just to play poker with the rubes. So to think that actual poker players playing for big money, with serious side bets, don't exercise their God-given right to communicate under the radar, okay, you have much more faith in the common man than me. Maybe not as much experience. But much more faith.
Yes, they probably lose less value to you but that doesn't mean they're even +EV to the tournament as a whole.
If the players are locals then people pick up on husband/wife interactions. There are a lot of eyes and a lot of IQ points at these tables.
I could write pages of cheat stories. Ones I've heard and ones I've been cheated. Some are even completely embarrassing for how naive I was at that moment.
People should always be looking for cheating. I've seen some crazy stuff. Coin-flip on river drawing in a blackchip (small blind is black chip .. ) game for getting a free-card. We couldn't figure it out had to be cheating. It is a fascinating world but if I talk too much about specifics it just opens me up to being doxed.
Also - you should learn to read. You're going from spouses cheating in $150 weeklies to "big money". Anyway, I don't care to get into all this because it is not an interest to me in poker but I'll give examples for consideration. You have $150 3 table tournaments with fairly bad players. It isn't big enough to have a "stable" but say 3 people are cheating what are the odds they're at the same table? If they're spending their time doing such things they're probably not developing much of a strategy. They could very well fuck themselves over and both lose big lol. Contrast this to WSOP main event where concern of collusion is laughable until it actually happens.
online it is more of a concern by far and I don't do tourneys but if you were to worry about collusion it'd be in those bellagio 10ks (or whereever in LV maybe Aria or Wynn) that happen often. It is not a concern of significance for the tournaments most people play.
I 100% would be a significant edge in those but I'm an unknown and happy with that. Thus it is harder to get backing outside of locals circle and I don't network. I hate LV. I kinda enjoy tournaments I guess. The higher ones have smarter people so the table talk is better but I never care enough to go play them.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I need to read a book on the meta aspects of tournament poker. I used to be pretty good at ICM (?) play in SNGs. Actually my sharkscope says I absolutely crushed them but that was the early days. If I fixed up that aspect of my game I'd be a great nlhe player. It is an interesting thought. An idea worth consideration for next year.
Todd has basically been around as long as me and played a ton. He's studied the game. He is clearly +EV and if you question that you're clueless in general. (Not saying this directly to boz)
I would love to know the breakdown by %s into recs and pros/expros by tournament.
Actually much more relevant experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIronically I have taken up cheating. I am trying to sneak chips on the table over the buyin cap. I think one dealer was suspicous. I kept greens in my pocket and would reload. Then after some $$ moved around and a new dealer I put a few more greens.The cap is $300 but everyone else is a scrub and doesn't ask for greens when it speeds up the game a lot. So the greens stick out but they fit in your pocket and are easy to add. The reds would blend in but you have to add half a stack at a time. Maybe get a table change and do it in route? I did it the last time so I'm working on my approach. I play it off dumb and they'll give me a warning. Not that they would care that much but i don't want to ever be caught if I wish to keep doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Well, I may be wrong (cough, cough), but I did watch the series TILT in 2005, which (truth be told) was based on real people and real events. The Michael Madsen character, for example, was pretty assuredly "based on" Doyle Brunson, in case anyone is interested.
As far as poker cheating, I mean c'mon, you can riffle chips like Morse code if you practice a little. I don't even want to consider what I'd come up with to bolster a stable if stablemates were at the same table. With people having pieces of each other and side bets that dwarf the early payouts, you'd have to be a, pardon the Bugs Bunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
to think this stuff isn't ubiquitous. I've played in little local feeder tournaments to little WSOP events in Mississippi, and you had husband-and-wife collusion aplenty. I knew a couple who took cruises just to play poker with the rubes. So to think that actual poker players playing for big money, with serious side bets, don't exercise their God-given right to communicate under the radar, okay, you have much more faith in the common man than me. Maybe not as much experience. But much more faith.
Cheating is not ubiquitous, though of course it happens. And incidentally it's not nearly as feasible as you seem to think in a large MTT (of which the WSOP ME is the most extreme example), nor as hard to detect if done repeatedly by the same people in the same venues, as per your hypotheticals.
Of course if we were going to try and drill down their strategy to any sort of detail it would be crickets. Yet he knows all about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerActually much more relevant experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Well, I may be wrong (cough, cough), but I did watch the series TILT in 2005, which (truth be told) was based on real people and real events. The Michael Madsen character, for example, was pretty assuredly "based on" Doyle Brunson, in case anyone is interested.
As far as poker cheating, I mean c'mon, you can riffle chips like Morse code if you practice a little. I don't even want to consider what I'd come up with to bolster a stable if stablemates were at the same table. With people having pieces of each other and side bets that dwarf the early payouts, you'd have to be a, pardon the Bugs Bunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
to think this stuff isn't ubiquitous. I've played in little local feeder tournaments to little WSOP events in Mississippi, and you had husband-and-wife collusion aplenty. I knew a couple who took cruises just to play poker with the rubes. So to think that actual poker players playing for big money, with serious side bets, don't exercise their God-given right to communicate under the radar, okay, you have much more faith in the common man than me. Maybe not as much experience. But much more faith.
Cheating is not ubiquitous, though of course it happens. And incidentally it's not nearly as feasible as you seem to think in a large MTT (of which the WSOP ME is the most extreme example), nor as hard to detect if done repeatedly by the same people in the same venues, as per your hypotheticals.
The thought that these couples did this as a strategy and it is an issue is lol. Yes, on occasion they're both at the final table but you can't just sit where you want to be given chip dump opportunities (no one between). It becomes problematic. How often would this ever work?
So now Redietz is talking out of his ass about poker. That couples pull this off and it being worth their time. It doesn't make much sense.
And never one to be aware he is out of his depth, he brings up tournaments as if that is the real issue. Why? Because that's all he knows. Just like in sports betting - it is all tournaments. He's like those tournament heros, 9 million in wins but who knows the other side. All smoke and mirrors. Also why he doesn't get EV at all. Never needed for coinflip tourneys.
Redietz if you're going to give me shit be funny about it. The chest thumping info bluffing douchery won't get you anywhere. I was trying to be nice then smurger wound me up with his post.
Good luck to Mr. Druff, hope he does well.
Uh...Quote:
Originally Posted by pinchingyourballs
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxfi7XMS8pw
Well that sucks balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVUh...Quote:
Originally Posted by pinchingyourballs
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxfi7XMS8pw
Mentioning CUBE STEAK doesn't REALLY make sense. Cube steak is still a good thing. It would have been VERY reasonable if you had said something like,"While their Families are using SNAP, WIC, EBT, and are one missed paycheck away from poverty."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I think it was a typo and what he meant or what autocorrect changed was tube steak.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaMentioning CUBE STEAK doesn't REALLY make sense. Cube steak is still a good thing. It would have been VERY reasonable if you had said something like,"While their Families are using SNAP, WIC, EBT, and are one missed paycheck away from poverty."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Only idiots wouldn't comprehend that people who eat cube steaks are slugs. These things barely pass as edible pieces of meat for humans, with their high fat content and massive amounts of tough tendons running thru them. But blacks don't mind. Neither do animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaMentioning CUBE STEAK doesn't REALLY make sense. Cube steak is still a good thing. It would have been VERY reasonable if you had said something like,"While their Families are using SNAP, WIC, EBT, and are one missed paycheck away from poverty."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Well, in fairness to her it’s all relative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerOnly idiots wouldn't comprehend that people who eat cube steaks are slugs. These things barely pass as edible pieces of meat for humans, with their high fat content and massive amounts of tough tendons running thru them. But blacks don't mind. Neither do animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaMentioning CUBE STEAK doesn't REALLY make sense. Cube steak is still a good thing. It would have been VERY reasonable if you had said something like,"While their Families are using SNAP, WIC, EBT, and are one missed paycheck away from poverty."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
If someone’s main meat dish is usually potted meat, or spam, then actually cube steak WOULD be like filet mignon, relatively speaking of course.
Swiss steak is typically made from cube steak, Robert: are you calling the people of Switzerland "slugs" as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I admire the Swiss, they're clever, strong and wealthy: they must owe it to eating all that cube steak.
I hear you girl. Cube steak with mushroom gravy, caramelized onions, and baby potatoes sauteed in herb butter. Yum. Only some kind of vegan faggot would turn his nose up at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaMentioning CUBE STEAK doesn't REALLY make sense. Cube steak is still a good thing. It would have been VERY reasonable if you had said something like,"While their Families are using SNAP, WIC, EBT, and are one missed paycheck away from poverty."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
V, I'm believing you've never spent any amount of time in Switzerland after that reach.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVSwiss steak is typically made from cube steak, Robert: are you calling the people of Switzerland "slugs" as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I admire the Swiss, they're clever, strong and wealthy: they must owe it to eating all that cube steak.
Cube steak comes from the ass of the cow.
It would be technically correct to call it cow’s ass.
Dang...ya got me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Yes, the tenderizing process, called "swissing" is not directly related to the Swiss.
Nor is Swiss Miss cocoa powder or pudding for that matter.
BUT Swiss cheese did originate in their alpine pastures, and let us not forget a subject near and dear to both our hearts: Swiss watches.
A former spook such as yourself might also be familiar with Swiss banks and their secrecy standards.
Are you sure about your definition of “swissing”?Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVDang...ya got me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Yes, the tenderizing process, called "swissing" is not directly related to the Swiss.
Nor is Swiss Miss cocoa powder or pudding for that matter.
BUT Swiss cheese did originate in their alpine pastures, and let us not forget a subject near and dear to both our hearts: Swiss watches.
A former spook such as yourself might also be familiar with Swiss banks and their secrecy standards.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...?term=Swissing
Did Todd lose again, or did he win enuf to pay for his online gambling habit for the next year?
Had an employee years ago everyone called Swiss Cheese Barry (black guy) because he was shot so many times and lived. But the guy could clean a restroom!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVDang...ya got me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Yes, the tenderizing process, called "swissing" is not directly related to the Swiss.
Nor is Swiss Miss cocoa powder or pudding for that matter.
BUT Swiss cheese did originate in their alpine pastures, and let us not forget a subject near and dear to both our hearts: Swiss watches.
A former spook such as yourself might also be familiar with Swiss banks and their secrecy standards.
Spoken like the bitter degenerate gambler that you are. Only a life long losing degenerate gambler could be this angry and bitter of people that actually win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Only a person who cannot control his bowel movements, let alone his actions, would keep vowing to never return to a forum, never respond to so and so (including to MDawg and R.Singer), and yet keep breaking his vows.
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Originally Posted by MDawgShe’s an embarrassment an indecisive twit to end all indecisive twits.
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Originally Posted by MDawg
Mdawg, you are just a very unpleasant person.
I guess no real surprise that once your silly story was exposed and you showed everyone that you were really nothing but a troll, it is no surprise.
And YOU did that, not me. I exposed your little story. YOU showed who you really are.
The WSOP allows constant solvers and cheating right at the table and all you Fuckers are talking about is... CUBE STEAK!
Just more proof that all poker players are scum and will cheat no matter what.
I know.
I'm one of them.
If you ain't cheating, you're broke.
I thought someone posted a week or so back that Druff had a bad run and was out.
Is he out? Or still in?
Check the online poker sites. And stay away from the stalls at Excalibur.
So, what I see is 603rd place. He won $30,000, but these guys sell pieces of their action right? So who knows what his return was and what expenses. Maybe in one of his once a month visits here, Druff will tell us. :rolleyes:
I do see where he lists Las Vegas as his hometown. I don't follow or know much about Druff, other than that he is a bad and absentee forum owner :D, but I was under the impression he lived in Southern California and just visited and spent some time in Vegas as opposed to living here. Maybe he will weigh in on that too.
On the other hand, maybe Todd had a peice of another player that did well, right?
Is that buying peices of other players public info?
Sure seems like that would lead to a lot of collusion.
Yes if you buy a piece of someone you have to register it with the SEC.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe in years past Druff "sold" some of his action in the WSOP. I believe I read on his other forum that he DIDN'T sell any of his action LAST YEAR (2023). Not sure about 2024.
The WSOP Main Event is highly +EV for most Pros. The problem being, it is only once a year, with a massively large field of players, the Variance is No Bueno.
Another downside to the main event is the number of days until players are "In the Money". So a player needs to consider their EV as well as their "time commitment". Let's say a low level pro gets back $110 for every $100 he spends on buy ins. For $10k that would be $11k back, or $1k profit. If it's 4 days to hit the money, is $250 per day worth it? If someone is getting $150 in winnings per $100 of buy-Ins, well that's a different story.
Do you have data to back that up?Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
How many pros are there?
Every Poker player will tell you this (Pro or Amateur). It is well known amongst the Poker community.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyDo you have data to back that up?Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
How many pros are there?
The amount of Pro's is not an official stat, but I would say it's somewhere around a third. Druff would have a more precise number.
I think he’s mentioned on his radio show before that he doesn’t sell any pieces of himself for the main event.
Does it cost ten grand entry fee?
If so, why would anyone worth a shit need to have an "angel?"
I can understand needing a backer for a high end cash game however.
Variance. Also it is common to swap pieces or buy/sell. If I think you're an equal then we swap a piece to lower our variance and give more sweat out of it. The downside is when you run super deep and have given up a large chunk of $$.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Dan’s a winning player anyway so why sell pieces of himself?
Anyone see the Chainsaw tracker results on Allen Kessler?
He sells all kinds of pieces of himself and is negative 6 figures this year on his tournaments cash outs vs buy ins.
Similar results the last couple of years.
Thats the kind of player that wants to sell pieces of himself.
Nothing against him either, just interesting to note.
Sort of like adverse selection.
How do you know Dan's a "winning player"? Because he plays in the WSOP? Because he plays online? Because he says he's a pro? Because he claims he wins?
There's many articles explaining how so many....too many of these self-proclaimed "pros" end up broke. And isn't it always someone no one's ever heard of winning the WSOP....proving it's primarily a game of luck? All this "reading player's mannerisms" (doesn't EVERY "aspiring pro" claim to be able to do this better than the next guy) and supposedly hi-level players being able to "compile mathematical edges" when they actually see less than 15% of any deck on any given game, is all poker bullshit.
If the cards don't fall---the player falls. And if the guess is wrong, they aint king kong. That's all it is, and it's as simple as that.
the link is his Wiki page -Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
quote - "as of 2023 his total live tournament winnings exceed $1,018,000"
and referring to the year 2005 - quote - "Witteles set a World Series Poker record, no other player in history has finished better in the first 2 events - he was also named Card Player's Magazine 2005 World Series Poker Player of the Year"
he most definitely is a long term winner - to believe otherwise you would have to believe he lost all of that back in various cash games - very, very unlikely
he is a person who has definitely proven himself to have a degree of greatness about him
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Witteles
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Everyone who knows that world knows Dan is a winning player. You're a fool so you don't have the ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Seems like a form of dunning-kruger even though I hate to reference that.
This is the same sort of small brain thinking that would lead one to write a book that is absurdly stupid. A strategy that magically changes a game from negative to winning.
Ps. Hopeless fool, we're talking about winning players. I don't think Dan claims to be a pro anymore.
Dan is an admitted tightwad Jew, he will never go broke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
That's REAL money from REAL casino play, not stacks of prop cash claimed to have been won from a practice VP machine in your basement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Smoke
Poker players are story tellers.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
Isn't EV determined using a mathematical calculation?
Well, I am not from THAT world, meaning the poker world and I still know that Dan Druff is a successful winning player. :rolleyes: It really goes back to that statement that I have make hundreds of times: It doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
However, if you are a losing degenerate type gambler, angry and bitter, who doesn't want to figure it out or see what is right in front of you, and can't accept that other players succeed and make money, where you can't, you will never figure it out or at least never admit it. And we have at least two of those people on this forum. And they are very loud with their bitterness and show it frequently
Or if not that then statistical methods/assumptions. Clearly when no assumption is required then the answer is accurate vs a guess on some level.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyPoker players are story tellers.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
Isn't EV determined using a mathematical calculation?