Simple question; who is the biggest forums bulls-shitter of all times, hey hey?
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Simple question; who is the biggest forums bulls-shitter of all times, hey hey?
Toss up between Robert Singer and MDawg: Robert has bullshitted for a longer period but the hound eclipses him by volume.
Monetarily, Singer has a 1.6 million dollar Newell claim, a 1.5 million dollar video poker jackpot on the computer in his daughter's house, about a 4 million dollar stolen double up bug claim from Nestor/Kane the two guys that really played it. Houses bought for each his kids along with various other buckets and suitcases of casino winnings. Gonna say that puts him at about 8-10 million in bogus gambling claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Mdawg: Well he has 4-5 million in gambling claims from his 4-5 years posting under his current name/handle (more with his previous handle/name). He also has a claim of a "mid 7 figure mansion", so that puts him at about 10 million in a quarter of the time as Singer. Mdawg also has a thread where he posts stock winnings, after the fact. I don't follow that at all, so I am not counting it.
So this nitwit poser, Soxfan, Trying to be one of the bad boys, didn't even list the top two on this and other gambling forums.
Oh, and me, KJ, if you don't believe I have played blackjack and supported myself from it for 20 years, well first you are an idiot, but monetarily that amounts to about 2 million OVER 20 years. So if you are stupid enough not to beleive anything I have shared, I am still way back.
But it was a good try (not really) by the poser. Speaking of which, what was the claim this poser, Soxfan threw out last week? 600k a year. He will be ahead of my numbers in 3 years. One big difference though, the math works for my claims. Everyone else defies the math. Of course AcctinQ says the math doesn't matter in gambling and advatage play. So all is good, in trollville.
I said it again, and I'll say it before, the singer and other might lie about some stuff some of the times; but the kewl-J lies about EVERYTHING ALL OF THE TIMES, hey hey
We got a dude....a poser, who claims he makes 600k a year playing baccarat, and God knows what he claims with his Dice influence ability. (<- :D :D :D) And THIS poser has the sack to call, not just me, but anyone else a liar? Give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
I never said anything close to this and you will never be able to provide a link.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMonetarily, Singer has a 1.6 million dollar Newell claim, a 1.5 million dollar video poker jackpot on the computer in his daughter's house, about a 4 million dollar stolen double up bug claim from Nestor/Kane the two guys that really played it. Houses bought for each his kids along with various other buckets and suitcases of casino winnings. Gonna say that puts him at about 8-10 million in bogus gambling claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Mdawg: Well he has 4-5 million in gambling claims from his 4-5 years posting under his current name/handle (more with his previous handle/name). He also has a claim of a "mid 7 figure mansion", so that puts him at about 10 million in a quarter of the time as Singer. Mdawg also has a thread where he posts stock winnings, after the fact. I don't follow that at all, so I am not counting it.
So this nitwit poser, Soxfan, Trying to be one of the bad boys, didn't even list the top two on this and other gambling forums.
Oh, and me, KJ, if you don't believe I have played blackjack and supported myself from it for 20 years, well first you are an idiot, but monetarily that amounts to about 2 million OVER 20 years. So if you are stupid enough not to beleive anything I have shared, I am still way back.
But it was a good try (not really) by the poser. Speaking of which, what was the claim this poser, Soxfan threw out last week? 600k a year. He will be ahead of my numbers in 3 years. One big difference though, the math works for my claims. Everyone else defies the math. Of course AcctinQ says the math doesn't matter in gambling and advatage play. So all is good, in trollville.
Mdawg can we add a #38 to the list of lies?
Dices "influencing" is nonsense; and I'll prove my baccarats style any time, unlike you who will never back up any of yer multiple bulls-shits claim, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWe got a dude....a poser, who claims he makes 600k a year playing baccarat, and God knows what he claims with his Dice influence ability. (<- :D :D :D) And THIS poser has the sack to call, not just me, but anyone else a liar? Give me a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
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As they say..."There's no better time than the present..."
You KNow what is coming next V. We have seen this re-run a hundred times.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVAs they say..."There's no better time than the present..."Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
First these dudes say they will prove it. (with no strings or qualifiers).
Then things change and they want a wager with you putting money in escrow or something. Some sort of terms they KNOW you will never agree to. That is how they insure they will never have to prove anything and just waste everyone's time with this shit.
And if by chance, someone agreed to their terms, they would change and add on new terms they know wont be accepted. Seen it many times with just Singer. It really is like watching a re-run.
[QUOTE=MisterV;187474]Ok, pony up some cake and come at me with legit, live dealt baccarats result, I'm waitin, hey hey!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan;187472[ I'll prove my baccarats style any time[/QUOTE
well THAT didn't take long. :D
Deja Vue all over again. ----Yogi Berra
Stop squealin like the little bitch; and tell me how much cake yer gonna pony up and when does the challenge start, hey hey?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You are going to have to take your "grift" somewhere else, fucktard.
Yer the grifter tryin to get get cats to believe yer never-ending bulls-shits claim Accept the challenge I proposed or pony up some cake and challenge me. Shut up or put up and stop being such an annoying little fairy, hey hey!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Sux4Fun is full of shit, obviously.
He said "I'll prove my baccarats style any time" but now he refuses to prove anything.
Here's the thing...this bullshit artist says he has a winning system and he can prove it, but when asked to he cries, shakes and blubbers like the clownr he seems to be.
I'm here waitin, bitch. How much cake are gonna pony up and when are you gonna come at me with legit baccarats result, hey hey!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVSux4Fun is full of shit, obviously.
He said "I'll prove my baccarats style any time" but now he refuses to prove anything.
Here's the thing...this bullshit artist says he has a winning system and he can prove it, but when asked to he cries, shakes and blubbers like the clownr he seems to be.
The term "retard" or "retarded" is thrown around liberally on this forum...even by myself
I think this one REALLY is retarded.
You and yer bitch-buddy, the pot-head V are just a pair of cunts. Yer just just a pair of low-level, low-iq, annoying, squealin cunts, simple and plain, hey hey!Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Wow. You really told us. I am sure V is just as crushed as I am. :D
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Originally Posted by seedvalue
Sux4Fun, I made it quite clear that I don't participate in these bullshit "forum challenges."
You are the one claiming to have a winning method, so why not just put it out there for free?
If you want to bet, go to a casino: forums are for discussion, flaming, edifying, and alas and alack...bullshitting.
I know which door you walked through..
Any door would be preferably to the one you have whole heartedly walked through, the one where you keep padding UNKewlJ's mushy behind.
Not sure what the phrase "padding UNKewlJ's mushy behind" means; could you please explain it for me?
Not having been raised in the Arab world such muslim terms are foreign to me...let me guess: does it have to do with camel fucking?
Just for fun, I took an hour of my life, that I may regret and added up some numbers from Mdawgs trips. these are the first 10 days of every trip, because he starts every trip by winning almost everyday. Isn't that how gambling works? :confused:
Spring 2021 10 winning days +$61,295
Winter 2021 9 winning, 1 losing +$126,355
Spring 2022 7 winning, 1 losing +$220,500
Spring 2022 9 winning, 1 losing +$119,825
Summer 2022 10 winning days +$57,410
Fall 2022 8 winning, 2 losing +$55,200
Winter 2022 8 winning, 2 losing +$77,000
Winter 2023 6 winning, 1 losing +$57,600
Spring 2023 8 winning, 1 losing +$38,960
Spring 2023 7 winning, 1 losing +$18,600
Summer 2023 10 winning days +$118,530
Summer 2023 8 winning, 2 losing +$78,700
Current trip 8 winning, 0 losing +$231,590
Anybody see a pattern here? All trips start out with 8-10 wins out of first 10 days. 108-12 out of first 10 days of 13 trips.
For a grand total of +$1,262,565. Over a million and a quarter dollars for 120 days play.
Now remember this isn't all his play. This is the first 10 days of every trip. Some trips lasted months.
Also remember that most of his stay and play claims took place at 1 casino.
So again, same question, now with the data in front of you. Would a casino. especially one as sharp as the one involved here, Cosmo, allow this from a rated player so they know exactly what the person is winning or losing? Or have we been fed a load of shit for 5 years now.
And that dear friends and frenemies, is your biggest bullshitter (thread title). If not #1, he is pulling neck and neck with Singer. :D
I must emphasize again, the above numbers are only the first 10 days of each trip. Some trips lasted months. The trip Mission146 added up in 2021 had a total win of several million alone. So the totality of these claims is probably in the 5 million (or more ) range. :confused:
Silly us real advantage players, playing table games, playing unrated, rat-holing chips and moving around a lot, when we could just sit and play and get comped, because the casinos love players that are beating them, and the pit loves players that are beating them and would cost their jobs if any of Mdawgs bullshit were true.
Numbers don't lie. The math doesn't lie. Mdawg lies. Or as Dan Druff said about dawgs claims "fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Asking a retard who claims to have a magical retarded edge in a retarded game like baccarat is, well, retarded.
UNKewlJ doesn't mention that I have had huge losing sessions too, over -100K lost in a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
In any case, you can't compare someone so stupid that he cannot even keep track of his lies enough to keep them coherent, contradicts himself daily, with someone as organized, intelligent, and with the kind of memory I have. Upon further thought, all including the Wizard admitted that what I do could be possible, "this talent is more of a 1 in 1,000 kind of thing than one in a million."
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Originally Posted by soxfan
Sux4fun is a strong nickname. Sometimes you just gotta call them hey heyQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
"Could be possible" Ok, now we are getting somewhere. I will accept that. Almost any claim "could be possible". Alan's 18 y.0. in a row claim "could be possible". The odds were something like several trillion to 1. I think somebody either Wizard or Druff figured the odds to be the same as getting hit by lightning 16 times. But it "could be possible".Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
BUT, here is the problem. "Could be possible" is only part of the equation. What is possible and what the casinos will allow are two VERY different things. I know because I have made a living based on that. The "trick" to any kind of table play game winning play, whether card counting, or hole-carding, or ace sequencing, or edge sorting or anything at all done right there in the pit with casino personnel eyes on you and surveillance eyes on you is not about what is possible as much as whether you can do anything and do it within the comfort level of the casino so that you are allowed to be able to play.
This is where your story, even with the "could be possible" falls apart. You would not just be fighting the battle that I and every other table game player, playing with an advantage fights, to stay within that tolerated or comfort level, based on a couple pit people, surveillance and dealer, but you playing the high limits areas and private tables you claim would be under 100 times the scrutiny and 10 times the eyes on you. THAT is where what you claim REALLY becomes impossible. Even if you were rainman. They just would not allow you to keep winning like this hundreds of days a year, for 5+ years now.
I think you now get this, but will never admit it, because that would be admitting your entire story is bullshit. But this is why no one even responds to your claims anymore. Not a single person.
So possible mathematically? Sure. 1 in a trillion or so odds. Possible in regard to casinos allowing a player to win like that, when all involved would lose their jobs if they did allow that for even a short while. NO. impossible....many times over.
The best example of what I am saying is your claim of playing blackjack at a double deck game on the strip for 10 straight hours. Is that possible in the sense that a player can pick up $100 chips and put it in the betting circle and next hand pick up $5000 in chips and put it in the betting circle. Sure that is physically possible. But the casinos would never allow what you claimed using a spread like that in a million years. NEVER!.
You arguing that you continually win doing these things and they love you for it, is as ridiculous as any claim EVER made on any gambling forum, including all Singer's claims and including EvenBob/Spikes win-at Roulette 80% claim.
And one final thing. You have hit on this rainman idea now and I guess are going to stick with it as the method of application of what you claim (not what would be allowed). But the rainman idea is about the 5th you have come up with over the years. Do you think people don't know this?
Respectfully (I don't know why, but I will try to be respectful), whatever reason you set out to tell this story, it is long past dead. It really is dude.
Kewl you've never even posted a picture of a green chip. Others claim you're not even a counter because it doesn't seem very possible operating in LV.
Don't you think that is a little ridiculous? Why would I post a picture of a green chip? If I was not who I claim, do you think I couldn't come up with a green chip? Even if I was some sort of working stiff, I could withdraw 10's of thousands of dollars and buy in for some chips and post them. That shit proves nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Think about all the pictures you see people post on forums. Almost all are scammer type shit of people trying to prove something that isn't true. Think about Singers pictures. You NEVER see a legitimate AP post pictures like that trying to prove something. We don't need to. We tell you what we do and if lucky how we do some things, and you can believe whatever you like. You can believe Santa Claus is tuneing up his sled at this very moment for all we care.
Now operating in LV, is a legitimate question. THAT has always been the difficult part of what I do. Not the card counting, but figuring ways and style of play, and limits of play that are tolerated and allow for continuing to be allowed to play. And I have tried, as much as I can, and probably even more than I should have to share some of the ways I do that. It is just you and other's who have made up their minds, don't want to hear what you don't want to hear.
That's not quite fair. He was seen with red chips at least.
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Just stop it will ya with the trolling and quotes that you know are not true.
Finally show a little bit of dignity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV9UKMo3kN0
AccountinQuestion, I am not posting this to troll you. It is a serious question. Aren't you the least bit embarrassed to have voted the way you did?
Look at the people who have voted the way you have. ALL trolls and gameplayers, besides yourself, Mdawg, Tasha, Finkle and $600k a year playing baccarat, Soxfan. Singer will join that club when he has a coherent enough day to read the forum. I am surprised Smurgerburger, and Belly aren't there as well.
But look who has not voted that way (or at all). Axelwolf, Mickeycrimm, Dan Druff, Boz, MrV, Jdaewoo, JBJB. The AP's and in the case of MrV, just a real player who knows how things work, have not voted or not voted for me.
Is that really who you are? right there associated with the known troll patrol.
Not sure how I missed that!Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Tbf I don't even know who evenbob is, I'm just voting based on the evidence of this forum.
Get the axel-wolf or the mickey-crimm to post up their plays you groomer-loving, pot-head, piece of shit, hey hey!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I wouldn't expect that a low-level, low-iq subhuman piece of shit like you would be able to figure out how to capture profit at the baccarats, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdaewoo
This forum really SHOULD have a systems or voodoo subsection. And the second someone mentions baccarat, or any type of progression wagering/system, or any other voodoo nonsense, their post should go to the voodoo section.
This forum should have the sub-section for yer makes believe, fantasy-land, bulls-shit, talls tale, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Get back on that forklift cunt….break is only 20 mins….move it boyQuote:
Originally Posted by soxfanThis forum should have the sub-section for yer makes believe, fantasy-land, bulls-shit, talls tale, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Bbbwwwaaahhh, yer a brave little cunt hiding behind yer computer key-board, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeystoneGet back on that forklift cunt….break is only 20 mins….move it boyQuote:
Originally Posted by soxfanThis forum should have the sub-section for yer makes believe, fantasy-land, bulls-shit, talls tale, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I don't think I would trust this clown Soxfan to operate my folklift. :rolleyes:
I don't drive the forks-lift but ain't nothing wrong with it. It figures that effeminate little cunts like the kewl-groomer and the key-stone would denigrate cats what actually work hard for the living, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I most certainly DID NOT denigrate anyone who does such work. That is another lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
Sure, I'll provide a play with some math and logic behind the play. Can/will you do the same with your baccaras?Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfanGet the axel-wolf or the mickey-crimm to post up their plays you groomer-loving, pot-head, piece of shit, hey hey!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I've said that I'm willing, unlike the kewl-J, to submit to the challenge. It might take some times to get a sufficient sampled size, but I've got the time. I'm not a coconut, and I tested my baccarats style, buckin up against 11, 000 tested shoe before I stared to play for real cake, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfSure, I'll provide a play with some math and logic behind the play. Can/will you do the same with your baccaras?Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfanGet the axel-wolf or the mickey-crimm to post up their plays you groomer-loving, pot-head, piece of shit, hey hey!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Axelwolf, I am curious as to why you picked Evenbob/Spike for your answer? Sure EvenBob's roulette claims are as silly and stupid as Singer and Mdawg claims, but they are so ridiculous, no one believes them. He isn't hurting anyone. Now some people say the same about Mdawg and Singer, but my God they try, with all the pictures and shit. Evenbob hasn't posted any ridiculous pictures trying to validate his stupid claims. He is just an old man mumbling to himself and his cats and forum members for amusement purposes.
And BTW, when I first joined WoV, evenbob and I talked some blackjack card counting. he claimed he counted cards. Not professionally or anything. And I doubt all that seriously. But he had some general knowledge, maybe a little bit more. He wasn't talking out his ass like he does with roulette. :confused:
Dude, are you a diabetic or something where you crave sugar and cake? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
I will give you a full box of my tastykakes, if you stop with all your silly folksy talk of cake, and cats, and hey hey. Enough already!
(this is a time sensitive offer as I am somewhat quickly working my way through my recent order of several cases of tastykakes)
Aren't winning sports ticket photos, jackpot photos, and even small keno win photos the equivalent of the photos you are talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Are the wins legit as long as the evidence photo is captured on the wagering instrument, or do they have to be redeemed for cash and then photographed before they are considered legit, or do the post-redemption photos of the cash indicate that the winning claim is bogus?
I don't mind the jackpot thread and pictures of jackpots. Jackpots are a part of gambling and AP machine play. And they happen infrequently. If someone wants to take an post a picture of a jackpot they hit, that is fine. Just don't have the picture on a computer screen in your daughter's house next to some old exercise equipment. And don't have someone else's reflection on the screen. :rolleyes:
But any jackpot picture posted proves nothing. First how do we know it was actually the jackpot of the person positing and not just some jackpot of a random player, they saw while walking around the casino? Or maybe the player 2 seats down. And the second thing about a jackpot picture is how do we know the person didn't already "invest" $12 grand into that machine to show some $4000 jackpot they hit?
So the pictures prove nothing. Most people on the forums aren't trying to prove anything though so it is all good.
The only jackpot picture that I have seen that is really proof that the person claiming hitting it did, was our old friend, Alan, when he did his little dance. :)
What about the APs who post those pictures, are they (the APs) not legit?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Aren't they posting the pics as evidence of something?
Already covered it. It is fine. Whether AP or recreational -EV player, jackpots occur infrequently, so if someone wants to post a picture, it is fine. Just don't try to say it proves anything because it doesn't. It is a lot like some pictures of cash and chips. In no way does that prove you won anything.
And I don't see many if any of the real AP's trying to say that.
It is almost a tell. If you see someone posting pictures trying to prove anything important, chances are good, what they are trying to prove isn't real.
And don't confuse that with someone like mickeycrimm posting pictures of the places on his travels. That is just a general interest things and most do find it interesting. He isn't trying to prove anything.
What about the before & after photos of his machine plays?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How about monet's photos of his sports tickets?
Then there's the links to tournament leader boards.
Aren't they evidence of something important?
I would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat about the before & after photos of his machine plays?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How about monet's photos of his sports tickets?
Then there's the links to tournament leader boards.
Aren't they evidence of something important?
Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.
Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.
Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.
Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.
It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
Words to live by: if someone posts photos trying to prove anything important, chances are good what they are trying to prove isn't real. LOL.
What's implied (actually, beyond implied) is that one should accept the anonymous word of someone NOT posting pictures because ... well, because that's kewlJ(s)!
Have you ever read anything so utterly messed up? It's right out of Orwell.
I have a Vols ticket here, but I guess because I haven't posted it, I should be believed. Whereas if I post it, beware! Great stuff, kewlj(s). Makes perfect sense.
And this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat about the before & after photos of his machine plays?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How about monet's photos of his sports tickets?
Then there's the links to tournament leader boards.
Aren't they evidence of something important?
Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.
Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.
Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.
Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.
It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
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Originally Posted by redietzAnd this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.
Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.
Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.
Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.
It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
You're not even talking about gambling. Do you not understand that?
I don't know the answer to that. It should be, however, I would be skeptical about going back that far as there might be too many ambiguities. I don't even know how hard it would be to go back and verify everything, who would even be willing to do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzAnd this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI would accept most(no live play) online casino account history as proof of winning, but I would not accept B&M casino win/loss statements as proof of winning or losing since that is all too easy to manipulate wins and losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Showing sports tickets pre-games seems legit to me.
Before and after pictures may or may not tell the entire story it depends on the situation.
Tournament leaderboards are good enough to show where you are placed, but that may not tell the entire story, it depends on the situation. For example, an unlimited entry sports or poker tourney/content might be meaningless if theres no way to provide proof as to how many entries one used.
Evidence is important, but so is the math, angle, and logic that goes along with it.
It really comes down to who's telling the story, whether it makes sense, is there historical evidence of similar things, and can the math and logic to back it up.
And witnesses who can back up what you are saying.
I don't know enough about those places or how they conducted their business and tracking or what their angle is, to even have an opinion one way or the other.
I can't remember who it was, but I believe it might have been Lem Banker, it's very vague in my memory. I know he/or someone notable was claiming lines that were all but impossible to get which made a huge difference between a winning and losing record.
I was asked to vouch/lie for Richard Radner so he could get in the world records as having the longest winning days in poker on record or some BS like that, I didn't want to hear the details because I was never going to do that. Richard Radner was very good at sports betting, but he fucked people at every turn.
There are also situations where someone can beat sports for a very long time but as things change they don't necessarily change and they can no longer beat Sports.
So you said before the reason why you won't post all your picks is because it's not fair to your clients. I believe there's multiple ways we could solve that problem. I'm fairly certain there's some kind of program in which you can pre-enter information that can't be changed/altered and we could view those after the fact. Problem solved. I would absolutely love to see how well you do. I do believe you have an advantage in sports betting but is that advantage above and beyond what you actually charge your clients?
Notice how kew has been voted BY FAR to be the #1 bullshitter, so he thinks repeating the same old & tired lies about mdawg and myself will somehow magically make things be better for his lying ass.
Again....wake up and smell the urine. MrV has.
hey hey, but somebody claims that, since physical evidences can be faked, and witnesses corrupteds, then the maths is all that matters, and will prove everythings.Quote:
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I'm gonna try it myself.
For the 10 years I've been a member here I've never disclosed my gaming experiences on this forum.
Now I have a confession to make, I've supplemented my full-time coaching income with part-time advantage play since 1978. Lucky for me that assistant coaching gigs come with a lot of time off.
I've mainly been card-counting Blackjack, playing with the thinnest of edges, just .5%.
But I've run a total of $920 million through in action during that period, and have averaged a $100K profit each year. That's right...I'm up $4.6 million, and that's just one of my many AP revenue streams.
I have records, receipts, returns, reports and photos to prove all of it, but I won't since no AP would post that stuff. And I won't discuss or explain any of my other plays on the forums, so you'll have to PM me and I'll decide if you are worthy. Maybe I'll even show you photos of my logs, if you are into that whole septic...I mean skeptic...thing. That will take some time, I'll need to figure out how to unwrap that damn package that nobody wanted to open.
But I have shown the math to back me up, and prove that I know how things work, so THAT is what there is.
I know none of you know me or ever met me, but if it's witnesses you need for proof, then of course I have many, some famous. Most of them read the forums, but never post. Instead they contact me privately to discuss what a bunch of asshole bullies you all are.
Wow, it's an unexpected great relief to finally reveal the truth, and having done so I'm gonna beat this story to death from here on out.
Where do I sign up for the 10x multiplier?
As I've been saying for the last decade(s), I worked (past tense, I'm technically retired) on percent of profit. Sliding scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI don't know the answer to that. It should be, however, I would be skeptical about going back that far as there might be too many ambiguities. I don't even know how hard it would be to go back and verify everything, who would even be willing to do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzAnd this is why third-party verification of actual straight play won/loss records has been so important in the history of sports handicappers. There's Tipsters or Gypsters?, The Absolute Truth, Handicapper's Report Card, The Sports Monitor, and the simple publishing of weekly plays in newsletters like Playbook.Quote:
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I don't know enough about those places or how they conducted their business and tracking or what their angle is, to even have an opinion one way or the other.
I can't remember who it was, but I believe it might have been Lem Banker, it's very vague in my memory. I know he/or someone notable was claiming lines that were all but impossible to get which made a huge difference between a winning and losing record.
I was asked to vouch/lie for Richard Radner so he could get in the world records as having the longest winning days in poker on record or some BS like that, I didn't want to hear the details because I was never going to do that. Richard Radner was very good at sports betting, but he fucked people at every turn.
There are also situations where someone can beat sports for a very long time but as things change they don't necessarily change and they can no longer beat Sports.
So you said before the reason why you won't post all your picks is because it's not fair to your clients. I believe there's multiple ways we could solve that problem. I'm fairly certain there's some kind of program in which you can pre-enter information that can't be changed/altered and we could view those after the fact. Problem solved. I would absolutely love to see how well you do. I do believe you have an advantage in sports betting but is that advantage above and beyond what you actually charge your clients?
Everything, as with people trying to assign EV to "sports betting," should be restricted to past tense, because what's transpired may or may not predict what's to come.
I need to correct you hard on one thing. There is no "sports betting." That presumes assuming a brain surgeon should be delivering children. Each sport is its own thing; very, very different things. As soon as you lump all of them together as "accessible to APing," you are lost. Bonus whoring is one thing. Arbitrage is another. They are independent of sport. But nothing else really is. Even something like shooting for middles has huge variance differences and different chances of success sport to sport.
And things change in each individual sport so, as you say, past performance is no guarantee of future success. Sports can change dramatically with a simple, seemingly small rule change or two. Or they can collapse in a heap like college football now being entirely play-for-pay.
Not that I'm bitching. From an aesthetic perspective, I hate it. But from a gambling perspective, things may be easier.
And Axelwolf, I have clients who have kept records of my plays going back at least 15 years. Plus that Wise Guys Contest was two plays a week, every week of every football season, for 20+ years. It's no guarantee of anything (nothing is), but it was strongly suggestive of whether somebody knew what they were doing.
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Give me a break dude. One thing Singer had right, is you are weird. And getting weirder and weirder.
Almost all the expected (troll patrol) has now weighed in. What is your point? Nothing not expected.Quote:
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And the only urine you are smelling is coming from your diaper.
Now I have saved Belly's nonsense for last because I have a football game to watch.Quote:
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Boys Jr High assistant coach belly, the math from your story works. Congratulation. I don't believe you! :cool: How dare I?
Did I really say if the math works you have to believe someone? Could you link to where I said that please? :rolleyes:
Or did I say, the math has to be a starting point. At MINIMUM or the very least, the math has to work. Think hard now which was it I have said many times. :confused:
So the math to your fun little story works. You are over that first smallest hurdle. But you tripped over the rest of them, like demonstrating you know what you are talking about. You have tripped over THAT hurdle many, many times. So no I still wouldn't believe you.
Now that said, if you were a newer poster that I wasn't familiar with, I probably would not come out and say I didn't believe you. because the math works I would say nothing at least until you proved beyond any doubt that you didn't know what you were talking about.
Interesting that Red and belly, seem to be doing this Martian type thing of making up things that I said, when it isn't what I said. Or telling us how they "interpreted" what I said, or what was implied, by their way of thinking.
Stick to the facts, guys. Stick to what was really said. :rolleyes:
Oh no you don't :mad: everything I've posted checks out 100%, which is 90% more than can be said about you.:mad::mad::mad:Quote:
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And now with me revealing that the math is in my favor, I'm over 100%.:cool:
And THAT is how you win in the casinos, THAT and quitting while ahead.:D
And by "you" I don't mean you (tewlj) win, I mean me.:p
Quitting while ahead is one of those hurdles you didn't get over.
Quitting while ahead (stop limits) is one of those areas (gambling voodoo) that would prove without a doubt that you DIDN'T know what you were talking about.
You obviously know nothing about winning.:p If you don't quit while ahead then you cannot possible be ahead:mad:, you will either have lost or be even.;)Quote:
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You are so dumb, there's no way you got into Villanova:rolleyes: with a GED from some swamp HS in Glades county:o. There's no math taught in Florida:cool:, you can barely count to two...and I don't mean two tables, I mean count to two.:confused:
Interesting question with plenty of legitimate candidates among others:
You've got the old school bullshitters: You've got Rob Singer, obviosuly. You've got Red, the rodney dangerfield of Sports handicapping and journalism, he can't get no respect around here. And you've got crimmdog millionaire.
The M-Dog doesn't do a whole lot of bullshitting on THIS forum, he mostly sticks to relentlessly harassing and attacking the kewlj here.
I'm going with Tasha: all the sock bullshitting, the axl rose stuff stuff is all bullshitting, she's a serial bullshitter.
But only one is a serial public shitter. She may have struck again!Quote:
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In any case, “As long as UNKewlJ remembers who's wearing the trousers" - around here, and it ain't UNKewlJ!
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Originally Posted by coach bellyYou obviously know nothing about winning.:p If you don't quit while ahead then you cannot possible be ahead:mad:, you will either have lost or be even.;)Quote:
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You are so dumb, there's no way you got into Villanova:rolleyes: with a GED from some swamp HS in Glades county:o. There's no math taught in Florida:cool:, you can barely count to two...and I don't mean two tables, I mean count to two.:confused:
Villanova costs a small fortune. More than 60K a year NOT counting room and board.
Draw your own conclusions. Next we'll get the tale of the magic scholarship.
KewlJ should have chosen some obscure liberal arts school with about 500 students in Rhode Island for his story.
Can you imagine some relative saying, "Yeah, let's pour 400K into kewlJ's college education at Villanova?"
I know this stuff because I played hoops with Bob Foley, Villanova grad and college hoops coach. We guarded each other about 200 times.
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Lame as usual…..I told you before, stick to dispensing out Hamas Hand Jobs instead of comedy….you're a hackQuote:
Originally Posted by MDawgIn any case, “As long as UNKewlJ remembers who's wearing the trousers" - around here, and it ain't UNKewlJ!
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Keep saying that to yourself UNKewlJ, trying to convince yourself. If it's true, why do you need to repeat 1000 times? :oQuote:
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