Druff, no doubt will get around to posting this news account of the shooting in front of Bellagio last night. But I wanted to make a mention right here, this shooting involved social media people that were feuding. Just what I was talking about several days earlier. :(
Social media and by extension internet forums fuel feuds, hate and anger that all too often spills out into real life violence and shootings. It isn't all just fun and games.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...ay/ar-AA1GmGFS
Druff put up a video on youtube about it early this morningQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Druff, no doubt will get around to posting this news account of the shooting in front of Bellagio last night. But I wanted to make a mention right here, quoting my above post, because almost as if on que, this shooting involved social media people that were feuding. Just what I was talking about several days earlier. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJDgenBen, if this were true, I would agree that there is some value in that. But not only do I think this is not true, I think it is the opposite effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
Hate and intolerance grows rapidly on social media of which I include internet forums (at least an extension of). Almost any time there is some horrific incident, shooting, multiple shooting of someone that is related to them being part of a group, Jews, Gays, ect, there is a direct connection to social media and internet participation. It is one of the first things police investigate when looking for a motive.
The internet and particularly the social media aspect of it (including forums) is...in my opinion, one of the worst things that could have come along.
(1) It allows people to talk and act in a manor they wouldn't have dared done so 20+ years ago.
(2) It allows people to connect with other like-minded folks and unfortunately that includes people festering hate and bigotry towards other groups of people
(3) And unfortunately, finding other like-minded people offers some support, whether real or imagined, for some to take shit off-line and do some of the things that hit the news almost everyday.
I guess the 2 words that best describe this are tribalism and demonization. You demonize those not in your tribe (in any way different than you) and that provides justification for shit that would be completely unacceptable 20 years ago. Not everybody of course, but those with any sort of issue, it feeds and fuels that issue.
We are just heading in the wrong direction.
Social media and by extension internet forums fuel feuds, hate and anger that all too often spills out into real life violence and shootings. It isn't all just fun and games.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...ay/ar-AA1GmGFS
https://youtu.be/xsgfJchwnCQ
Really weird shit!
I don't understand or in any way "get" this weird subculture of influencers and their followers. Really don't get the followers. Why does someone want to spend their life, watching what other people are doing like that? And it isn't even interesting. again...just weird to me.
That said, The guy that was doing nothing but trolling is now dead. I don't feel bad for him.
We have a guy on this forum (several actually) that do nothing but troll. Contribute nothing else. I wouldn't mind seeing the same outcome for them. :rolleyes: Maybe in front of Cosmo would be more fitting. :D
Good stuff, Dan.
I don’t know.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I think death might be a little bit too extreme of a penalty for trolling.
https://i.imgur.com/O6EOFOuh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QAuSgOIh.jpg
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Originally Posted by jdog
Dude, it is a thuggish black dude and a thuggish Latino. No one is sentencing them to death, but if they want to shoot one another....power to them. :D Let's add Arabs to the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
Article about the murder in LVRJ today discusses the video Dan Druff posted.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...io%20fountains
Hey, KJ: methinks you're taking this shit way too seriously.
People troll: it's what we do.
You troll in response, which isn't as effective as simply ignoring the pests but better than making a seemingly veiled threat or two: c'mon man, it's just words on a screen, trying to evoke a response from you.
I'm certainly not one to recommend that anyone take the high road, but if you can't take the trolling without over-reacting then like Dan suggested in his video it might be best not to stay involved in the ongoing flame wars.
Isn't one extreme essentially the same as the other?Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Better do some more pondering. Ha.
As the "vice" tightens ...
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Originally Posted by MisterV
You know, the dude that was doing the trolling...the one that ended up getting himself and his GF/Wife killed, he wasn't just trolling the other guy. He called the guys grandmother several times and harassed her.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
I am not saying that warrants death. But, you do stupid shit like that, I am not going to feel sorry for the dude.
Ok, I can buy that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou know, the dude that was doing the trolling...the one that ended up getting himself and his GF/Wife killed, he wasn't just trolling the other guy. He called the guys grandmother several times and harassed her.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
I am not saying that warrants death. But, you do stupid shit like that, I am not going to feel sorry for the dude.
It’s not reasonable to kill someone over this, but the victim was not sympathetic.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes as the saying goes….
Yeah, and a few days before heading to sin city Vinny, channeling perhaps a gift of prophecy, commented how "mentally ill" Ruiz was.
Finny, Manny, blah blah blah. Here's a flash: blacks and spics kill each other every day in big cities, and no one gives a shit because most of them contribute nothing--like these two losers. These minorities have nothing to lose.
Someone like kew talks a lot of dumb smack and tells basically nothing but lies about several people right here, and most of it's far worse than what these bozos came up with. But the people he goes after are successful people, they have brains that work, and they know a loser when they see one.
At the end of the day, what'd we lose--2 "fine citizens"? And this Manny hothead will be either in prison for life or 6 feet under soon enuf. Big whoop.
Next.
KJ with the outside the box legal analysis as usual.
LVRJ article says Finny Da Legend made fun of Manny's wife's looks? Looked at her instagram and she's not ugly at all.
Finny Da Legend and his wife on the other hand look like this:
No words.
Finny was mocking her body shape, saying she had an "innie" ass not an "outie" or something to that effect.
It's one thing to fuck with a mentally ill YouTuber and an entirely different kettle of bullets to insult his woman.
Man, I'm old and I grew up with old school religious/superstitious parents who drilled into me that you should never publicly make fun of people in this manner. You're inviting the wrath of the God they believed in. Like if you told someone their face looks like a burnt frozen pizza Mom would say you'll get hit by a car for saying that cuz God likes to spite people. I think nowadays parents tell their kids about "inside thoughts" and "outside thoughts" or whatever religious-free language is au courant. Especially if you don't look like Brad Pitt and your wife is no Julia Roberts then just keep your mouth shut. Maybe crazy old Mom was right after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
My God, Funny and his Wife look like Brother and Sister. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by pinchingyourballsLVRJ article says Finny Da Legend made fun of Manny's wife's looks? Looked at her instagram and she's not ugly at all.
Finny Da Legend and his wife on the other hand look like this:
No words.
At the risk of getting hit by a car, I would even go so far as to say that Finny and his wife look like their parents are brother and sister. Sorry, Mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
I draw the line with people who approach as if they want to walk through me. If you want to try this, then, fine. Brace for impact. Ha.
You don’t get to be Da legend by being normal like everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinchingyourballsAt the risk of getting hit by a car, I would even go so far as to say that Finny and his wife look like their parents are brother and sister. Sorry, Mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
I wonder if he knew Dustin Da Closer?
If you feel like killing someone, at least be patient enough to not get caught, then don't do it.
To an extent, Finny's friends bear some responsibility for their deaths because they egged him on to keep trolling Manny online, even though there was plenty of evidence how unhinged Manny was. If I was one of Finny's buddies going on his stream and joining in the taunting of Manny I would be crawling under a rock right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBenYou don’t get to be Da legend by being normal like everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinchingyourballsAt the risk of getting hit by a car, I would even go so far as to say that Finny and his wife look like their parents are brother and sister. Sorry, Mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
I wonder if he knew Dustin Da Closer?
Sorry for the second thread about this. I didn't realize this had been shared in another thread already.
I merged all the messages into this one.
Anyway, my tweet about the matter got 1.6 million (!!) views, and my YouTube explaining the whole thing got 17k views -- both personal records for me on each platform.
Not only did the LVRJ mention me (referring to me as a "professional gambler and commentator"), but they also used the video as a lot of the source of their story regarding the beef itself.
Feels good to have an impact. Beats my usual routine of just refereeing fights between kewlJ and MDawg.
Also, this could have happened the day before.
Manny was looking for Finny for over 3 hours on June 7, but he didn't find him, and complained about it at the end of the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC7HK8O50kQ
Social Media beefs online have turned into at least one real life killing. A guy who was beefing with his Social Media Enemy online ended up calling Police and pretending to be his Social Media Enemy said something like, "I just raped my Wife and I am about to kill her and my Children."
He gave the address of a completely innocent man's house. The Police came to the innocent man's house banging on his door. The innocent man opened the door PURELY to see why Police were banging on his door and Police shot him because "he," told them that "he," raped "his Wife and was just about to kill "his," children and her and they thought they were protecting the Family.
The guy who called the Police did an Interview in a Starbucks where he admitted he called the Police and claimed he was his Enemy who had raped his Wife and was about to kill her and their Children and had sent the Police to the innocent man's house. The Interviewer said something like,"Don't you think you have the innocent man's death on your hands?"
The guy responded something like,"I didn't tell the Police to shoot him."
The Interviewer pointed out that the innocent man wouldn't have been killed by Police in the first place if he hadn't made the horrible call to police and sent them to the innocent man's house.
The guy said something like,"Police should have done their due diligence and not just shot the first man who opened the door. They could have INVESTIGATED to see if his Wife and Children were REALLY in danger of being killed by him and not just blindly shot him.
The Interviewer said something like,"The Police were told that he was about to kill his Wife and Children. They had reasonable reason to eliminate the threat that they thought was happening.
The Suspect STILL deflected saying something like,"The Police didn't HAVE to shoot the innocent man. That was THEIR fault.
The Interviewer said something like,"Do you REALLY think you should be doing this Interview without a Lawyer? Don't you think YOU could be held legally liable for the innocent man's death?"
The Guy responded something like,"WHY would I need a Lawyer? I am doing this Interview in an anonymous Starbucks. There's no way I can get into trouble for this since I am doing an anonymous Starbucks Interview." The Interviewer was disgusted and said something like,"Okay, this Interview is over. Have a nice life. Goodbye."
The Guy thanked him and told him bye too. The guy was soon caught, arrested, booked, and jailed for his part in the innocent man's death. In his court case he had a look of,"I didn't think the Starbucks Interview would get me caught, arrested, booked, and jailed," look on his face.
On Social Media Posters were roasting the guy saying something like,"IDIOT didn't harm his Social Media Enemy, he got an innocent man killed instead and now has a jail record. His Social Media Enemy is most likely laughing at his dumbass!"
Whoa...if Manny does this to his "biggest fan" one can only cringe at what he would have done to his biggest enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I wonder whether Manny's life was sort of circling the toilet, i.e.he might have felt he had nothing to lose in this "honor killing" due to failing to succeed as a YouTuber and perhaps failing to succeed at life in general.
Any idea as to his financial circumstances, employment and criminal history?
Did he have a history of mental health issues?
Whatever, he's fucked now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeZRYhLDLeU
Come on, V, most people don't give a shit. You have such a low threshold for reality, that it shows in everything you do, and say.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
https://youtu.be/DRpV0GePYeM
Whatever, garnabby...BTW how's your Theory of Everything coming along?
Talk about being mentally ill...
Seriously, a gradiose Theory of Everything?
Bwa ha ha ha
How about a Theory of Horse shit?
This subject has entered its ad-nauseum phase. Who the F cares what these two idiots said and did to and/or about each other and their wives? It's a common occurrence in every major democratic-controlled city loaded with armed minorities. These slugs contribute nothing and ARE nothing. Good riddance to all 3 losers. They wanna act like deranged animals then they got exactly what they asked for.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ce-casey-viner
I posted my previous post PURELY from memory. It turns out that Casey's Social Media "Friend," killed his character during a Social Media game and Casey was PISSED. Casey told his "Friend," that he would send SWAT Team to his house. The "Friend," purposely gave Casey the wrong address to send the SWAT Team to the "Friend's," house.
The "Friend," USED to live in that address but no longer lived there. An innocent man, Andrew Finch now lived at the "Friends," old address and had absolutely nothing to do with Casey and his "Friend's," Social Media game beef. Casey told Tyler, another one of his Friends to call the SWAT Team and send them to his "Friend's," house.
Tyler was like,"Okay, I'll do it," and called the SWAT Team claiming,"I just shot my Father in his head and I am holding my Mother and Sisters hostage. I am about to light my house on fire and then turn the gun on myself," and gave the SWAT Team Casey's "Friend's," address. SWAT Team went to Andrew Finch's house and shot him thinking he was the one who made the horrible phone call when he wasn't.
All Andrew did was go outside when he saw SWAT Team wondering why SWAT Team was at his house and was shot because of Tyler's horrible phone call. And because he dropped his arms when SWAT Team ordered him to lift his arms. SWAT Team then did a search of the house after shooting Andrew and realized that the ONLY person who was dead was Andrew Finch and that they had been played.
Tyler soon admitted in the Starbucks Interview that he made the horrible phone call that ended up with innocent Andrew Finch being dead. Tyler was sentenced to 20 years in Prison. Casey's "Friend," who purposely gave out the wrong and old address got off REALLY easy, getting a deferred prosecution. Casey also got off REALLY easy, and just had to pay $2,500 in restitution and got two years supervised release for telling Tyler to call the SWAT Team in the first place.
I must have already told you guys about the time that I chased four gang members up the street. Three guys, one girl. I was sitting at the kitchen table, working on some Penrose tiles - in those days you couldn't bring them up on the internet, but these were new ones - when I heard a rustling at the door. I discovered them running off with my doormat. It was an expensive psychedelic bit of art, which I wasn't prepared to let go. They dropped it, and, then, kept running. A day or two later, I found myself walking up the street, with a carload of them keeping pace with me, for a block. One neighbor kept a loaded shotgun at his door, but, another, a bigger guy than me, was afraid of them, let them steal stuff off his clothesline, and, from around his house. Eventually, I put chains across my door, after a really big guy with a mohawk tried to kick in the door, late one night. Eventually, the cops rounded them up after one of them cracked open another neighbor's skull, with a baseball bat, because of a drug debt. I would have fought them if I had to, not that afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I didn’t even know they had street gangs in Canada but I looked it up & sure enough they do.
Here are some of the worse ones:
The Moose Knuckle Syndicate
The Alberta Oil Spills
The Flannel Reapers
The Curling Stones
The Beavertail Bruisers
And the most feared and notorious street gang in all of Canada:
The Eh Team
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Originally Posted by MHF
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Originally Posted by TashaMy God, Funny and his Wife look like Brother and Sister. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by pinchingyourballsLVRJ article says Finny Da Legend made fun of Manny's wife's looks? Looked at her instagram and she's not ugly at all.
Finny Da Legend and his wife on the other hand look like this:
No words.
That's pretty racist of you Tasha
I saw an ADT commercial when I was young where a Husband and a Father starts to leave his house to go to work and he sees some guy in a hoodie tying his shoe. The guy does a suspicious double take and the hoodie guy gives him a casual smile.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHFI must have already told you guys about the time that I chased four gang members up the street. Three guys, one girl. I was sitting at the kitchen table, working on some Penrose tiles - in those days you couldn't bring them up on the internet, but these were new ones - when I heard a rustling at the door. I discovered them running off with my doormat. It was an expensive psychedelic bit of art, which I wasn't prepared to let go. They dropped it, and, then, kept running. A day or two later, I found myself walking up the street, with a carload of them keeping pace with me, for a block. One neighbor kept a loaded shotgun at his door, but, another, a bigger guy than me, was afraid of them, let them steal stuff off his clothesline, and, from around his house. Eventually, I put chains across my door, after a really big guy with a mohawk tried to kick in the door, late one night. Eventually, the cops rounded them up after one of them cracked open another neighbor's skull, with a baseball bat, because of a drug debt. I would have fought them if I had to, not that afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
The guy drives to work. The hoodie guy RUNS, JUMPS, and KICKS down the door and then leaves once he sees that a Woman is inside with her young Daughter. The Mother and Wife immediately gets a phone call from ADT and ADT mentions that they realized her door has been kicked in. She tells ADT that she is not all right because someone tried to break in. ADT sends someone to fix the broken down door and she is relieved. I told my own Mother something like,"What does she mean she's not all right? The guy left as soon as he realized it was already occupied after he kicked down the door. He didn't harm her or her young daughter, he just left.
My Mother said something like," What he did was still traumatizing even though he immediately left without harming them. I myself would have been traumatized if someone kicked down OUR door trying to break in even though he immediately left."
It's just a formula. Everybody is trying to make a bunch of things into one thus formula, but, I started off looking for the one formula.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
You'd have to be nuts to try something like this without having something to go by, to begin.
This way around, with the fine-structure constants in place, I can then account for the periodic table, which is the holy grail of TOE's.
There're a lot of other details to what happened, but, I don't want to over-excite our resident MrV. Ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaI saw an ADT commercial when I was young where a Husband and a Father starts to leave his house to go to work and he sees some guy in a hoodie tying his shoe. The guy does a suspicious double take and the hoodie guy gives him a casual smile.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHFI must have already told you guys about the time that I chased four gang members up the street. Three guys, one girl. I was sitting at the kitchen table, working on some Penrose tiles - in those days you couldn't bring them up on the internet, but these were new ones - when I heard a rustling at the door. I discovered them running off with my doormat. It was an expensive psychedelic bit of art, which I wasn't prepared to let go. They dropped it, and, then, kept running. A day or two later, I found myself walking up the street, with a carload of them keeping pace with me, for a block. One neighbor kept a loaded shotgun at his door, but, another, a bigger guy than me, was afraid of them, let them steal stuff off his clothesline, and, from around his house. Eventually, I put chains across my door, after a really big guy with a mohawk tried to kick in the door, late one night. Eventually, the cops rounded them up after one of them cracked open another neighbor's skull, with a baseball bat, because of a drug debt. I would have fought them if I had to, not that afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
The guy drives to work. The hoodie guy RUNS, JUMPS, and KICKS down the door and then leaves once he sees that a Woman is inside with her young Daughter. The Mother and Wife immediately gets a phone call from ADT and ADT mentions that they realized her door has been kicked in. She tells ADT that she is not all right because someone tried to break in. ADT sends someone to fix the broken down door and she is relieved. I told my own Mother something like,"What does she mean she's not all right? The guy left as soon as he realized it was already occupied after he kicked down the door. He didn't harm her or her young daughter, he just left.
My Mother said something like," What he did was still traumatizing even though he immediately left without harming them. I myself would have been traumatized if someone kicked down OUR door trying to break in even though he immediately left."
Probably got so much traction because there is a huge demand for objective information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
People just want to know what is going on, without any kind of spin on it.
Nearly impossible nowadays to find something presented in an explanatory & objective viewpoint as you did with this.
Shame it’s mostly wasted on fools like us, lol.
Okay, LMAO! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MHFThere're a lot of other details to what happened, but, I don't want to over-excite our resident MrV. Ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaI saw an ADT commercial when I was young where a Husband and a Father starts to leave his house to go to work and he sees some guy in a hoodie tying his shoe. The guy does a suspicious double take and the hoodie guy gives him a casual smile.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHF
The guy drives to work. The hoodie guy RUNS, JUMPS, and KICKS down the door and then leaves once he sees that a Woman is inside with her young Daughter. The Mother and Wife immediately gets a phone call from ADT and ADT mentions that they realized her door has been kicked in. She tells ADT that she is not all right because someone tried to break in. ADT sends someone to fix the broken down door and she is relieved. I told my own Mother something like,"What does she mean she's not all right? The guy left as soon as he realized it was already occupied after he kicked down the door. He didn't harm her or her young daughter, he just left.
My Mother said something like," What he did was still traumatizing even though he immediately left without harming them. I myself would have been traumatized if someone kicked down OUR door trying to break in even though he immediately left."
Follow up article on shooting:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...ersonal%20life
What a tragic real world story that all stemmed from Social Media online. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
The REALLY sad thing is that Social Media STARTED off innocent, being stuff like pictures of what you are eating for breakfast and showing off your new haircut you got from the barber and delved into killing people in the real world that you had online arguments with. :(
Social media doesn’t kill people. idiots kill people.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaWhat a tragic real world story that all stemmed from Social Media online. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
The REALLY sad thing is that Social Media STARTED off innocent, being stuff like pictures of what you are eating for breakfast and showing off your new haircut you got from the barber and delved into killing people in the real world that you had online arguments with. :(
I’m sure in the caveman days when they invented clubs and spears they used to say something like “Look how many people these clubs and spears have killed! Before these things we could only choke someone out with our bare hands or drop a rock on their head”
Sin City Manny ready for trial.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...0ee17003&ei=38
But is Sin City ready for Manny trial?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyberbabble
No, the case is most certainly NOT ready for trial: whatever gave you that idea?
The article only says the state will seek the death penalty.
Usually takes a couple years for death cases to get to trial.