Tiffany's gift cards

[Alan Mendelson]

This thread proves that this forum and it's "AP gang" are performing in a theater of the absurd. LMAO

[Alan Mendelson]

I don't see the issue here. There exists an established, burgeoning market for gift cards that has some maturity to it. The cards generally fall into specific price ranges based on the type of card, so one knows ahead of time if the likely sales discount price is 70% or 80% or 90% of face value. If I were playing a lot, I would not account the values until sold, but there's little to no risk. People are unloading gift cards all of the time, whether earned in casinos or not.

There's nothing wrong with buying or selling gift cards. Just be careful that the cards are valid. What you buy/sell them for is a decision each person makes based on their utility. If I were shopping at Tiffany I absolutely would buy gift cards at a discount.

But I can't get over Dan and his shoe card play.

[tableplay]

That's right. I can't make this shit up. Average shoe price from Zappos is about $50, but prices range from $15 to $200. Let's say Dan spends $100 per pair averaging shoes for his son and himself and girlfriend. That's 60 pair of shoes. If he buys a total of 20 pair per year that's 3 years of online shoe buying. What a deal.

The Macy's gift card deals at Caesars weren't good enough? Had he played at the Caesars promotion he would have Macy's cards and rooms for the WSOP.

Alan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.

[Alan Mendelson]

Tableplay it's very interesting that you and Boz ran to Dan's defense without Dan even telling what his play was. Thanks to Google, I was able to find the Zappos 2012 gift card promotion at the Cosmo.

[tableplay]

Tableplay it's very interesting that you and Boz ran to Dan's defense without Dan even telling what his play was. Thanks to Google, I was able to find the Zappos 2012 gift card promotion at the Cosmo.

Alan, if Dan says Zappos was his only goal for running action then I will eat crow, otherwise, unlike you, I am not going to assume it was and then fault him for it.

[The Boz]

Currently Cosmo has a Find the Key promo along with their annual Holiday Cash rebate. While due to reduced VP multipliers, even with Platinum, it may make sense for some.

Again Alan has no fucking clue. Engaging him is a waste of time but it’s halftime and I already pissed.

[Alan Mendelson]

Actually Boz YOU have no fucking clue. You'll run to the defense of anyone who uses the code AP without even knowing the details. It's one big circle jerk for all of you.

[MaxPen]

Actually Boz YOU have no fucking clue. You'll run to the defense of anyone who uses the code AP without even knowing the details. It's one big circle jerk for all of you.

Did the Fertitta clan overlook your turkey dinner comp this year at Red Rock? You seem grumpier than usual.
One more week to go until the 1st. It's OK, you're degenerate ass will be back in action soon.

[The Boz]

Stupid fuck probably sharked 1/2 the check in advance at a point a week to get his fix.

[Rob.Singer]

That's right. I can't make this shit up. Average shoe price from Zappos is about $50, but prices range from $15 to $200. Let's say Dan spends $100 per pair averaging shoes for his son and himself and girlfriend. That's 60 pair of shoes. If he buys a total of 20 pair per year that's 3 years of online shoe buying. What a deal.

The Macy's gift card deals at Caesars weren't good enough? Had he played at the Caesars promotion he would have Macy's cards and rooms for the WSOP.

Alan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.

It's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".

Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....

[redietz]

That's right. I can't make this shit up. Average shoe price from Zappos is about $50, but prices range from $15 to $200. Let's say Dan spends $100 per pair averaging shoes for his son and himself and girlfriend. That's 60 pair of shoes. If he buys a total of 20 pair per year that's 3 years of online shoe buying. What a deal.

The Macy's gift card deals at Caesars weren't good enough? Had he played at the Caesars promotion he would have Macy's cards and rooms for the WSOP.

Alan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.

It's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".

Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....

LOL. "It's solid knowledge..." Is that different from gaseous knowledge or fluid knowledge? What kind of a reference to authority is that? Is that the kind of writing they taught to engineers?

I've only gotten a few gift cards in my life from casinos, and it never even occurred to me to count them as anything. So I guess I would be one of them thar APer guys who don't count them gift cards as bein' worth nuttin'.

Am I getting the "engineer" lingo down? I'm sorry, dude. My best friends in college were all engineers. One was nuclear, one electrical, one was some kind of general. I edited many of their papers. They tried to pull the same inane passive voice appeal-to-authority stuff you just did. To quote our Prez, "Sad."

[MaxPen]

Alan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.

It's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".

Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....

LOL. "It's solid knowledge..." Is that different from gaseous knowledge or fluid knowledge? What kind of a reference to authority is that? Is that the kind of writing they taught to engineers?

I've only gotten a few gift cards in my life from casinos, and it never even occurred to me to count them as anything. So I guess I would be one of them thar APer guys who don't count them gift cards as bein' worth nuttin'.

Am I getting the "engineer" lingo down? I'm sorry, dude. My best friends in college were all engineers. One was nuclear, one electrical, one was some kind of general. I edited many of their papers. They tried to pull the same inane passive voice appeal-to-authority stuff you just did. To quote our Prez, "Sad."

Robbochio was some sort of broadcast engineer until he got fired. Basically, he set up the microphone for the real talent. I wonder if he ever setup Alan's microphone? Someone has to do it for the 2-bit talent as well.😃

[mickeycrimm]

That's right. I can't make this shit up. Average shoe price from Zappos is about $50, but prices range from $15 to $200. Let's say Dan spends $100 per pair averaging shoes for his son and himself and girlfriend. That's 60 pair of shoes. If he buys a total of 20 pair per year that's 3 years of online shoe buying. What a deal.

The Macy's gift card deals at Caesars weren't good enough? Had he played at the Caesars promotion he would have Macy's cards and rooms for the WSOP.

Alan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.

It's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".

Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....

Solid knowledge, huh? Why would anyone calculate in the full value when they plan on selling for half price? What kind of stupid shit is that? Just more Robocchio bullshit.

[AxelWolf]

I played a machine that was a 5% loser hoping my gift cards would get face value and I would make 1% on my play. Come to find out I can only get about 50%.

Can someone help a brother out and buy them for 60%.

I need to eat and feed my children and pets. Thanks in advance.

[redietz]

I played a machine that was a 5% loser hoping my gift cards would get face value and I would make 1% on my play. Come to find out I can only get about 50%.

Can someone help a brother out and buy them for 60%.

I need to eat and feed my children and pets. Thanks in advance.

Cats or dogs? Makes all the difference.

[Rob.Singer]

Not just Vegas either. I mentioned that I got Tiffany cards once but that was a buy with comps event that was slightly less than dollar for dollar at the level I purchased at but much less at higher levels. But I've done several in recent years that were invitation only - either $x in gift cards for every $x in play over a specific period (like a week), or large amounts based on particular point levels earned over a defined period with both established individually by player based on play history. The former could have certainly generated that level of prize, if one had reasons or desire to work it, and the latter, while my offers weren't ever that high, was certainly lucrative for people who had past play to generate a higher offer and who were able and willing to play for it.

Looking at the other side of these "promos": I've been in Cosmo 3 times playing no promotions on their not-so-great pay tables for 3-4 hours total, and I've netted a little over $2k in profit. I still get crappy offers from them but the place ain't my bag.

I’ll bite, why would ANYONE play their bad paytables with no promotion?

And of course you made a profit.

So are you saying your system is so good you don’t even care about the paytables?

And fuck no, the place isn’t for you, no RV parking, no shitter dump and they monitor the Men’s room.

Yes, my strategy has won on several "negative" pay tables for BP and the advanced BP games.

I recall they do park my Charger and Lexus in valet.

[Rob.Singer]

Whether Tiffany is quality or overpriced junk is immaterial here.

Some people may be planning upon shopping there anyway because their wife/gf/whatever wants Tiffany stuff.

In such a case, it's much better to buy these gift cards at a big discount.

I believe that's what Axel is going for here.

And yes, it's quite common to end up with gift cards as part of a casino promotion, and then try to unload them for cash if you don't have much use for them.

All that is common understanding, but it was also dodging the main point. These super duper "AP's" here have been crowing about what a big deal their little axel is in the land of "highly bankrolled & respected" successful/winning/casino-killing/all-balls/luminary & savant-level LV knowledgeable gamblers. But let's get real for a change.

Yet with all these big shots that supposedly ride out of the same stables as axel, he cannot find even ONE Tiffany-loving/discount-seeking/woman-pleasing player in his sacred bunch? This alone is incredible, given the reputation we see planted here. What's even MORE fandangolicious is why he would try to peddle the cards here! Obviously, he's a little short on the money.

Undoubtedly, he would take $800 or even less if it were offered.

Rob, you have no clue how much I had, how much I have already sold, and who wants what. I have plenty of time to figure it out, as to why I didn't jump at a 50% cash offer. Most of the people I know have their own Gift cards or have already bought enough high priced stuff from me they don't really need any more. This isn't the first time I have had thousands of dollars in high end gift cards and it won't be the last. I have never had a problem selling the stuff. Since it's the holiday season I figured there might be someone here interested in a nice discount.

Axel, you geniuses jump on me whenever you can, making up story after story and by-line after by-line because I see thru the AP BS. Yet when I come back in your faces with obvious deductions, you people jump up and down like spoiled little children who just got grounded.

I have no idea what you did, got, or what it means to you---and neither does anybody else. But on the flip side of that, you and your gang choose to make up stupid scenarios about Alan and myself, probably because you folks don't want it to be that Alan's got more retirement money than you'll ever have and I and my wife have enough to spend minimum $10k/month at least until I'm 123.

It's all about hate with you guys. Learn to take it better.

[AxelWolf]

I played a machine that was a 5% loser hoping my gift cards would get face value and I would make 1% on my play. Come to find out I can only get about 50%.

Can someone help a brother out and buy them for 60%.

I need to eat and feed my children and pets. Thanks in advance.

Cats or dogs? Makes all the difference.

I no longer have a doggy as he passed away a while ago(I'm still sad). We had a cool mouse who died recently(So sad) he would beat up the cats and ferret (no joke)

However, (true story) we have 2 cats (one I saved from heat stroke and certain death) 3 hedhogds, a
well behaved cute ferret and 4 turtles (the turtles are outside and might be cold, money will help me buy more heaters for them)



We do babysit little doggys often.

Please help save my babies and let them live the good life.

For only 2600, you too can save an animal.

Please no 1970's leaking roof camper's.

[jbjb]

All that is common understanding, but it was also dodging the main point. These super duper "AP's" here have been crowing about what a big deal their little axel is in the land of "highly bankrolled & respected" successful/winning/casino-killing/all-balls/luminary & savant-level LV knowledgeable gamblers. But let's get real for a change.

Yet with all these big shots that supposedly ride out of the same stables as axel, he cannot find even ONE Tiffany-loving/discount-seeking/woman-pleasing player in his sacred bunch? This alone is incredible, given the reputation we see planted here. What's even MORE fandangolicious is why he would try to peddle the cards here! Obviously, he's a little short on the money.

Undoubtedly, he would take $800 or even less if it were offered.

Rob, you have no clue how much I had, how much I have already sold, and who wants what. I have plenty of time to figure it out, as to why I didn't jump at a 50% cash offer. Most of the people I know have their own Gift cards or have already bought enough high priced stuff from me they don't really need any more. This isn't the first time I have had thousands of dollars in high end gift cards and it won't be the last. I have never had a problem selling the stuff. Since it's the holiday season I figured there might be someone here interested in a nice discount.

Axel, you geniuses jump on me whenever you can, making up story after story and by-line after by-line because I see thru the AP BS. Yet when I come back in your faces with obvious deductions, you people jump up and down like spoiled little children who just got grounded.

I have no idea what you did, got, or what it means to you---and neither does anybody else. But on the flip side of that, you and your gang choose to make up stupid scenarios about Alan and myself, probably because you folks don't want it to be that Alan's got more retirement money than you'll ever have and I and my wife have enough to spend minimum $10k/month at least until I'm 123.

It's all about hate with you guys. Learn to take it better.

And all this time, I've been wasting my time being jealous of 21 year old Kylie Jenner (as disgusting as she and her family may be) who is a billionaire instead of Rob and Alan.

[redietz]

I played a machine that was a 5% loser hoping my gift cards would get face value and I would make 1% on my play. Come to find out I can only get about 50%.

Can someone help a brother out and buy them for 60%.

I need to eat and feed my children and pets. Thanks in advance.

Cats or dogs? Makes all the difference.

I no longer have a doggy as he passed away a while ago(I'm still sad). We had a cool mouse who died recently(So sad) he would beat up the cats and ferret (no joke)

However, (true story) we have 2 cats (one I saved from heat stroke and certain death) 3 hedhogds, a
well behaved cute ferret and 4 turtles (the turtles are outside and might be cold, money will help me buy more heaters for them)

That is so cool. The turtles here keep wandering down the mountain, and I have to keep them out of harm's way, although I do not adopt. Ferret, cats, and hedgehogs? Wow.



We do babysit little doggys often.

Please help save my babies and let them live the good life.

For only 2600, you too can save an animal.