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  1. #2481
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    anybody on as many gambling forums as you
    I'm not on many gambling forums, and don't know any blackjack players' names or handles.

    If I did, then why would I ask?

    You are living in a fantasy world, a figment of your own imagination.

    We believe Seed.

  2. #2482
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    We believe Seed.
    So believe Seed. Your choice. Believe the Easter bunny if you want.

    I only wish the casinos would believe Seed and delete me from the database. As well as all the crazies from these forums constantly trying to find me.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  3. #2483
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I encountered a guy who would copy the mag stripe of a players card onto an extremely thin, almost invisible laminate film. The laminate film was delivered into the card reader of a machine via a regular players card and then the players card was pulled out leaving the film in the machine to accumulate points on the card the laminate was copied from whenever the machine was played (until some player discovered a different name on the electronic display which might happen right away). Way above my pay grade, but I figured some VCTers might find it interesting. I used the term Ghost Card for this, but clearly there is more than one meaning for the term based on what you just posted Seed Value.
    Sounds Familiar.
    When Player Cards first started to come out some players would break them off in the machine and accumulate that way.
    Very Crude compared to your example but still effective.
    I have recently seen some machines stuck on a players card with no card in the machine and it never resets.
    Odd.
    Damn Sharpies!
    If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!

  4. #2484
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Oh by the way, early in my career, back before Norm's forum, I was one of those young players Flash wanted to "mentor". We communicated privately frequently. He did something very early on that immediately spoke to his character. I have never mentioned this in public, only privately with a couple people I network with.

    Flash sent me a downloaded (pirated) copy of James Grosjean's Beyond Counting. This was 15 years ago, when this book was the bible, and it was difficult to get a copy. Copies occasionally popped up on Ebay for $2000 or more. Now there are many pirated copies.

    This was a really sleazy thing to do. It was literally stealing from Grosjean. I suspect he did this to all his students or potential students.


    So if I got this story straight you befriended this man by pretending to want a mentor sucked him or you had him suck you, filmed it then proceeded to run your extortion play. This ultimately ended in his untimely early death.. sounds familiar


    Rip

    And people think you are harmless

  5. #2485
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Seeing Things is a Canadian comedy-drama mystery television series with a fantasy twist, in that the lead character has postcognitive visions that help solve each episode's mystery. The series originally aired on CBC Television from 1981 to 1987.
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    Looks like you guys live in some sort of inherently paranoid universe of stalkers, and faulty slot machines.

    A hallucination involves seeing, hearing, smelling or tasting something that doesn't actually exist. Hallucinations can be the result of mental health problems like Alzheimer's disease, dementia or schizophrenia, but also be caused by other things including alcohol or drugs.
    And a lack of psychic traits. Ha.
    I got this one.
    I seen one other post of yours but I was watching hockey so no need to quote it.

    Glitched Slot Machines are the Bee's Knees.
    Happens all the time but finding them is a different story.

  6. #2486
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Hockey Time... CYA.
    I hope the Tampa Bay Faggots win to force a game 7.
    DE-NIED!!
    Good Game though... No bets for me so I wanted to see a Game 7.
    I wouldn't care who won but I'm happy for the Nordiques.
    They were Fucking Dominate for the Whole Playoffs.
    I was watching Mike Hammer Episodes during the intermissions and commercials if anyone wanted to know.
    And I got the dishes done while they were hoisting Lord Stanley.

  7. #2487
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post

    So if I got this story straight you befriended this man by pretending to want a mentor sucked him or you had him suck you, filmed it then proceeded to run your extortion play. This ultimately ended in his untimely early death.. sounds familiar
    You got nothing right! I never met the man.

    But I am done with you. I don't know where you people come from, but you are just another nut.
    Rob Singer / Robert Argentino: Failed Advantage Player, lifelong degenerate losing gambler and now failed gambling forums troll.

  8. #2488
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Happens all the time but finding them is a different story.
    ---> List of things named after Albert Einstein.

    https://anagram-solver.net/Happens%2....?partial=true


    Interesting how the outside world intersects with gambling. The analogies are fascinating.

    I don't think that Albert had any stalkers, or faulty equipment, but, he found a lot of stuff nonetheless. I recall that his doctor ordered him to stop smoking, had his family and the townspeople keep tabs on him. So, the guy went around picking up cigarette butts to smoke when no one was around. Ha. (I got the ha in there before you quoted it.)
    Right back at it eh?

  9. #2489
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I encountered a guy who would copy the mag stripe of a players card onto an extremely thin, almost invisible laminate film. The laminate film was delivered into the card reader of a machine via a regular players card and then the players card was pulled out leaving the film in the machine to accumulate points on the card the laminate was copied from whenever the machine was played (until some player discovered a different name on the electronic display which might happen right away). Way above my pay grade, but I figured some VCTers might find it interesting. I used the term Ghost Card for this, but clearly there is more than one meaning for the term based on what you just posted Seed Value.
    Sounds Familiar.
    When Player Cards first started to come out some players would break them off in the machine and accumulate that way.
    Very Crude compared to your example but still effective.
    I have recently seen some machines stuck on a players card with no card in the machine and it never resets.
    Odd.
    Damn Sharpies!
    If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!
    This is funny because I was at a place noted for great offers on new cards and twice in the same day I put my card into different machines and no matter what I did it keep registering a different persons name even w no card lol. Now I know why.

  10. #2490
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    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Can you post a link to back up that claim? Who vouched for him?
    The Boz agreed "100%" with my claim.

    Earlier today, look it up.

    Post @2395.

    IIRC one or two others here or at WoV claim to have met KJ as well.
    What, Me Worry?

  11. #2491
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Can you post a link to back up that claim? Who vouched for him?
    The Boz agreed "100%" with my claim.

    Earlier today, look it up.

    Post @2395.

    IIRC one or two others here or at WoV claim to have met KJ as well.
    Since everyone is pretending and playing make believe I’m a Brain Surgeon

    Just like V pretends to be a lawyer

    And kewgunzzzz pretends to be a blackjack pro

  12. #2492
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Glitched Slot Machines are the Bee's Knees.

    Secret VCT codeword, ⑫IP + ...

    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Right back at it eh?
    ---> The Beehive (Gatwick airport).

    https://anagram-solver.net/secret%20...h?partial=true


    The sex of each bee can be distinguished by counting the number of segments on its back (six in females, seven in males), or the number of segments of the antennae (12 in females, 13 in males).
    Interestingly, the only other way to do this by working with only one letter is to put a 5 for the S.


    5ecret VCT codeword, RIP + ...

    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Right back at it eh?
    ---> The Beehive (Gatwick airport).

    https://anagram-solver.net/5ecret%20...h?partial=true


    Eyes – Incredible as it may seem, the honey bee has FIVE eyes, two large compound eyes and three smaller ocelli eyes in the centre of its head.

    Oh, well, that was a tough one. I guess that bees are "seers", too. Ha.

    "In Christian tradition , [the bee] is the emblem of Christ, of his forgiveness (through analogy with the sweetness of his honey), with his justice (through its sting), and Christian virtues (because of the exemplary way worker bees behave towards their queen".
    A tool inspired by swarming insects is helping people predict the future - making groups of people smarter than their members are by themselves.

    Louis Rosenberg thinks he has found a way to make us all a lot smarter. The secret to this superhuman intelligence? Bees.

    Rosenberg runs a Silicon Valley startup called Unanimous AI, which has built a tool to support human decision-making by crowdsourcing opinions online. It lets hundreds of participants respond to a question all at once, pooling their collective insight, biases and varying expertise into a single answer.

    Since launching in June, Unanimous AI has registered around 50,000 users and answered 230,000 questions. Rosenberg thinks this hybrid human-computer decision-making machine – once dubbed an ‘artificial’ artificial intelligence – could help us tackle some of the world’s toughest questions. What’s more, with advances in AI coming thick and fast, he sees it as a way to put humans back into the loop.

    “We can’t stop the development of smarter and smarter artificial intelligences,” he says. “So our alternative is to make ourselves smarter so that we always stay one step ahead.”
    Last edited by Garnabby; 06-26-2022 at 10:22 PM.
    Every one /everyone knows it all. Yet, no thing /nothing is known by any one /anyone.

    Suckers think they are beating the house. It wins unless it lets you win to give you an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Shut it down, Garnabby.--->Anything, but a BS word.

    GFs pg. 455=178+277; sqrt(178X277=22+222^2)~222, as in https://discord.com/channels/4843422...04079147761715

    Also, 178+187=365. 277+77+200=555-1; 7+220+227=455-1.

  13. #2493
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    We believe Seed.
    So believe Seed. Your choice. Believe the Easter bunny if you want.

    I only wish the casinos would believe Seed and delete me from the database. As well as all the crazies from these forums constantly trying to find me.
    You got databased for being a menace. Sexually harassing older men at the table. It has nothing to do with you being a threat. Lol imagine you a threat at the blackjack table as your eyes keep staring at every bulge walking by the table. Looking to suck your next bankroll out some old down and out gay man.

  14. #2494
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    I encountered a guy who would copy the mag stripe of a players card onto an extremely thin, almost invisible laminate film. The laminate film was delivered into the card reader of a machine via a regular players card and then the players card was pulled out leaving the film in the machine to accumulate points on the card the laminate was copied from whenever the machine was played (until some player discovered a different name on the electronic display which might happen right away). Way above my pay grade, but I figured some VCTers might find it interesting. I used the term Ghost Card for this, but clearly there is more than one meaning for the term based on what you just posted Seed Value.
    Sounds Familiar.
    When Player Cards first started to come out some players would break them off in the machine and accumulate that way.
    Very Crude compared to your example but still effective.
    I have recently seen some machines stuck on a players card with no card in the machine and it never resets.
    Odd.
    Damn Sharpies!
    If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!
    This is funny because I was at a place noted for great offers on new cards and twice in the same day I put my card into different machines and no matter what I did it keep registering a different persons name even w no card lol. Now I know why.
    I am curious if these methods of cloning the strip would even work in the short run, forget about the long run. As soon as someone notices that someone else’s card is reading on the machine, they are going to notify the casino. The first thing the player is going to think of is “how long has it been giving someone else credit for my play”? The casino will immediately investigate and find the issue. And it’s not like they don’t know which card to kill, they have the name right there. Then they are obviously going to check the cameras and know what culprit to trespass. So you would have to use someone where that’s all they would do, they couldn’t be involved in other aspects of the multicard operation.

    The only option I can see is in the high limit area. You place the cloned card in several high limit machines, the key would be to stay in the high limit area as people play on those machines. As soon as someone notices there name is not displayed, they will notify the casino. When they walk away, you pull the cloned strip, so when the casino personnel return to investigate they see no issue, and there would be no card to kill. If a person plays $100 per spin for an hour at an 8% theoretical- they leave, you then pull the cloned strip. The massive coin in on reel slots makes it’s a good day.

    Maybe it’s one of those things you only need it to work once in a while to be successful.

    Overall seems like a tough gig, as well as illegal.
    Last edited by PositiveVariance; 06-26-2022 at 11:07 PM.

  15. #2495
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I have recently seen some machines stuck on a players card with no card in the machine and it never resets.
    Odd.
    Damn Sharpies!
    If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!
    Monet, it looks like they're running the Laminate Play (hereon referred to as The LP) I just described - since that is its exact behavior and intent.
    The person I encountered who put down the move (demonstrating it to me out of pride of his craft) said he purchased a mag stripe card reader/burner (very handy for a multitude of things I would imagine) - you can fill in the blanks from there. He also told me he was a former black jack dealer and card mechanic. He also tried to angle shoot me by telling me he saw security holding a photo of me (he obviously thought I was a moron to believe such garbage - and maybe I am; but not to the extent to believe that horse shit), since he knew I was vulturing plays and taking away a lot of his revenue and he didn't want me working that shop. Suffice it to say that I am extremely happy I have not encountered him in about 3 years.
    If you ever see a guy with a poorly home-made tattoo of an ace on the back of his hand (I forget the hand and the suit, but I think it was spades) - that might be him. Cheaters are fascinating, clever people - but, as you know, they'll throw you under a bus without batting an eye and everything that comes out of their mouth is an angle - it is almost impossible to become friends with people like that.
    Last edited by tableplay; 06-27-2022 at 01:52 AM.

  16. #2496
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    Sounds Familiar.
    When Player Cards first started to come out some players would break them off in the machine and accumulate that way.
    Very Crude compared to your example but still effective.
    I have recently seen some machines stuck on a players card with no card in the machine and it never resets.
    Odd.
    Damn Sharpies!
    If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!
    This is funny because I was at a place noted for great offers on new cards and twice in the same day I put my card into different machines and no matter what I did it keep registering a different persons name even w no card lol. Now I know why.
    I am curious if these methods of cloning the strip would even work in the short run, forget about the long run. As soon as someone notices that someone else’s card is reading on the machine, they are going to notify the casino. The first thing the player is going to think of is “how long has it been giving someone else credit for my play”? The casino will immediately investigate and find the issue. And it’s not like they don’t know which card to kill, they have the name right there. Then they are obviously going to check the cameras and know what culprit to trespass. So you would have to use someone where that’s all they would do, they couldn’t be involved in other aspects of the multicard operation.

    The only option I can see is in the high limit area. You place the cloned card in several high limit machines, the key would be to stay in the high limit area as people play on those machines. As soon as someone notices there name is not displayed, they will notify the casino. When they walk away, you pull the cloned strip, so when the casino personnel return to investigate they see no issue, and there would be no card to kill. If a person plays $100 per spin for an hour at an 8% theoretical- they leave, you then pull the cloned strip. The massive coin in on reel slots makes it’s a good day.

    Maybe it’s one of those things you only need it to work once in a while to be successful.

    Overall seems like a tough gig, as well as illegal.
    These things are true, but you might be giving casinos too much credit. Casino employees often take the path of least resistance

    I would suspect in many cases a slot tech would just clear out the card reader and move onto his next job instead of starting an investigation that will take hours.
    The secret to success is quitting while you’re ahead or quitting while you’re behind, especially at some arbitrary preselected number.

  17. #2497
    Most places will "abandon" the inserted card after a certain amount of time with no play. This even happens while legitimately playing some games like China Shores and get stuck in a super long bonus round with hundreds of free spins.

  18. #2498
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    These things are true, but you might be giving casinos too much credit. Casino employees often take the path of least resistance

    I would suspect in many cases a slot tech would just clear out the card reader and move onto his next job instead of starting an investigation that will take hours.
    I don't think they understand or care.
    Many times I have talked to them about something and nothing ever happens.

  19. #2499
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Most places will "abandon" the inserted card after a certain amount of time with no play. This even happens while legitimately playing some games like China Shores and get stuck in a super long bonus round with hundreds of free spins.
    That was my point.
    I don't understand how they are doing it.
    The card reader is locked and never resets or abandons in the machines I have recently seen.
    Perhaps a fluke or glitch... perhaps not and it was intentional.
    I'm not sure.
    Just something I recently have seen.
    I've also seen multiple teams running around as fast as they can with ear pieces in and constantly talking to their other teammates or manager.
    I can't keep up and don't really want to.

  20. #2500
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Cheaters are fascinating, clever people - but, as you know, they'll throw you under a bus without batting an eye and everything that comes out of their mouth is an angle - it is almost impossible to become friends with people like that.
    I think it depends.
    I think the movie The Sting shows how some cheaters are different compared to others.
    I'd team up with Paul and Redford.
    Robert Shaw is way too good of an actor to of had to accept the role of the mark.
    One of the best poker scenes in movie history...


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