Originally Posted by ZenKinG
Originally Posted by ZenKinG
Originally Posted by ZenKinG
Cheaters
ANOTHER 700 GONE LMAO. HAHAHAHHAHA. YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP. I FINALLY GET A 21 DOUBLE DOWN ON AN 11 VS A 2 AND DEALER FLIPS A 9 AND A 10 ON A MAX BET SO I LOSE THE OTHER HAND. I CANT WAIT TO RUN THE NUMBERS WHEN I GET BACK. THIS IS OVER -2SD LMAO. COUNT YOUR FUCKING BLESSINGS. IM DOWN CLOSE TO 15K NOW AT 2X300 AT +4 NOT PLAYING ANYTHING LEAS THAN -1.
RUN THE NUMBERS ON THAT FUCKING FRAUD RETARDS. NO WONDER ALL OF U PUSH A FUCKING BUTTON. EVERYONES GOT A STORY BUT NO ONE FUCKING PLAYS. JUST SIT ON A FORUM AND PODCAST TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING. THATS ALL ULL EVER HAVE IS A FUCKING STORY U COCKSUCKING QUEERS
IVE HAD ONE WINNING DAY IN 11 DAYS OF PLAYING EVERY DAY. THE ONLY WINNING DAY WAS MY FIRST DAY WHERE COINCIDENTALLY I ALSO GOT A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP ON MY FRIENDS COUCH. THE REST HAS BREN IN MY CAR. IS THAT A COINCIDENCE??? NO IT ISNT CAUSE MY LIFES A FUCKING TROLL AND NOW EVERYONE CAN SAY ITS CAUSE I HAVENT SLEPT WELL. HAHAHAHHA. JUST COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS YOURE NOT A FUCKING TROLL PUPPET YOUR WHOLE LIFE. ANYONE ELSE WOULDVE KILLED THEMSELVES A LONG DUCKING TIME AGO
YOU THINK THATS NORMAL??
YES!!!!!!
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Assuming your posts are serious then gambling is probably not the best career for your temperament.
I hope your car is at least comfortable.Originally Posted by ZenKinG
I wander through the path of life. Wondering. Wondering what my next signature on VCT should be.
I see homelessness in your future.
Apt.
What, Me Worry?
I wouldn't expect ZK to receive much sympathy on this forum, but geez....you guys are brutal.
In all honesty, when I look at the records posted, I see a couple bad weeks. Maybe go as far as to say very bad weeks.
I can't help but wonder if you check back through your records for 5-6 years now, have you never experienced a period that rivals this? It seems like you have because you have been on here venting many times
My point is you should understand by now that these kind of runs occur with blackjack card counting. They just do! And after you experience a few and bounce back you should be able to handle them better than you now are
I don't care if you want/need to occasionally vent. I know everyone finds it amusing and I hope you are getting what you want out of it.
My only real concern is that these periods of thinking everyone, including God, is against you is effecting tour play and contributing to even more losses. You did mention some mistakes made.
Get it together fella. You have succeeded at this for 5-6 years, maybe more. Put that experience to work.
I have never been a fan of taking a break to get your head on straight. I am a grinder and try to power through negative runs. But sometimes you have to just take a break for a couple days. Admittedly, that is probably difficult on a trip, staying with friends. You didn't make that trip to sit around for a few days, but if you need to...do it.
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I'm assuming ZenKing just posts to vent and drain off some negative energy. He can't really be this emotionally invested in 11 days if he's done this for five years.
It's like a drill sergeant going off on his recruits during training -- it's mostly an act.
I'm assuming ZenKing is one 6 card dealer 21 away from causing a mass casualty event.Originally Posted by redietz
Originally Posted by jdaewooI'm assuming ZenKing is one 6 card dealer 21 away from causing a mass casualty event.Originally Posted by redietz
Gambling-wise, I would have paid to have watched ZenKing in my shoes when:
1) I had the Houston Oilers at 35-1 and 40-1 to win the SB. I was sitting in the GN with some Asian high rollers during the playoffs when I got up five minutes into the third quarter and went to my room because I could smell what was coming. It was the famous game that's replayed every year as the greatest NFL comeback of all time. Now with me, the high rollers asked who I had when I got up to leave, and they complimented me because they couldn't tell. I think they might have known had ZenKing been in my shoes.
2) I won the final week of a phone-in handicapping competition against thousands of people to earn a slot as a season-long handicapper in The National (1990). Twelve "civilians" had each won a week. The winning consisted of a job handicapping and writing about football, then at the end of the first season, they would choose one to be a permanent full-time writer under Mike Lee in the only national sports daily in the U.S. Basically, you became a famous dude. For my contribution during the first season of 12 people, I had a modest contract (5K) to do a column each week. I was the only writer and actual handicapper and person with journalism experience among the twelve, so I figured I was 50/50 to wind up as The Guy. Well, The National lasted from January to July, folded a month before the pre-season started. They reneged on my little contract, and no famous-ness. I would have paid to watch ZenKing deal with that. I suspect a guy named Cy Cerro, who handled my contract, would have been kidnapped and buried alive.
I mean, have you seen the names he calls everyone on the forum?Originally Posted by kewlJI wouldn't expect ZK to receive much sympathy on this forum, but geez....you guys are brutal.
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Of course I have seen the names. I am often a recipient.Originally Posted by mcapI mean, have you seen the names he calls everyone on the forum?Originally Posted by kewlJI wouldn't expect ZK to receive much sympathy on this forum, but geez....you guys are brutal.
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Agreed. Him and Phil Hellmuth need to be placed in Nevada's "Black Book" and never allowed in casinos again.Originally Posted by jdaewooI'm assuming ZenKing is one 6 card dealer 21 away from causing a mass casualty event.Originally Posted by redietz
I don't play or watch poker. I don't know what to make of Phil Hellmuth. I feel like he is a TV "character" now, playing a role of the bad boy as much as anything.
Now Zenking, well a blackjack AP (I would think any AP really) but a blackjack AP HAS to be able to keep his emotions in check. I don't think a player can be a successful player if you can't and that is what concerns me about ZK. Degen gambler types and ploppies, start chasing losses, and making mistakes which only adds fuel to the fire of a losing session. You can easily turn what should be a small loss into a mammoth loss.
With blackjack card counting specifically things like overbetting, throwing out bigger or max bets before the count and advantage calls for it. Maybe making a double down "early" before the count calls for it. The player starts thinking I am not going to win my $5000, or $8800, or $10,000 back by betting $25 or $50, so he starts doing everything wrong, early (before the advantage) or excessive. Again, this is my concern with Zenking at the moment. I hope he has been playing long enough with the experience that this venting is only an online forum type thing and not rolls over to the tables.
I am so unemotional and completely detach from the money that I have had to train myself to actually show a little emotion. It used to be, I would lose $5000, or $8000, and upon losing that last round and exiting, I would say "thank you", as I frequently say after any session. I started thinking that is NOT how a non-Ap would act, which is what we want to emulate. So now I pretend to be a little upset, saying something like "I never win at this place anymore" or something along those lines. I have no idea if that does anything, but it just feel more like what a non AP would do or say.
And as far as losing itself, I handle it or don't handle it well, in a different manner than ZK. On long losing periods, I am talking weeks, sometimes months of negative or flat results, I become very unmotivated to play. I really have to push myself to keep playing every day. Focusing on the EV generated, helps with that for me. Win or lose for that day or that week, every round I play generates EV and in the long run end of year, results and expectation always come back in line. THAT is my secret to keep motivating myself to play when I haven't won for several weeks.
Oh and as far as ZK's comments about shooting up the strip made at WoV, which lead to his banning there, I don't know what to make of that, nor will defend it in any way. THAT was a stupid thing to do or say and wasn't it just after the Oct 1 Las Vegas mass shooting? I think that put Shackleford in a position that he had to not only ban Zk from the forum but needed to inform authorities that such a comment was made of his forum. I don't know whether he did or not, but I would be willing to bet someone on that forum alerted authorities.
I mean forget about the terrorist part of it, just as a card counter AP, what if Shackleford or some member of WoV that knows ZK's name (and there are many), was concerned enough that they contacted authorities and authorities passed that info along to casinos? You now have a situation where the player has basically databased himself. Even if the casinos take no action, there is the possibility they are keeping an extra close eye on this person. That is a stupid thing for a card counter AP to do.
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