Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
KJ:

California rule 8.4(c):

"Rule 8.4 Misconduct(Rule Approved by the Supreme Court, Effective November 1, 2018)

It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:

(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud,* deceit, or reckless or intentional
misrepresentation"

source: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/...ry-Redline.pdf

Make of it what you will, I've no comment as to enforcement as I have never dealt with this particular issue; perhaps you could research it to see whether the California bar has had similar situations come before it, and what they've done about it.



1) I think counting cards as an income source has probably months versus decades left to it. The AI is just too good. All casinos have to do is require ID to play -- ends card counting.
I really liked the rest of your post and I wonder if you are correct.

As far as the above statement I think you're wrong. Well, you put in a significantly large margin "months versus decades"
I would be willing to bet card counting will last for 20 years before it ends in months. Im willing to bet Card Counting will still be A thing in 1,2,3,4,5 years, pick your poison. Money held with a 3rd party.

Requiring ID wouldn't end card counting, it would just weed out the weak, hinder some, and discourage newcomers. There's an untold amount of card counters running around with multiple fake ID's. Yes, there are systems in place that help verify if the person is real or not, but there are ways around that. Required rated play isn't going to stop card counters. Even being trespassed isn't going to stop card counters.
There are guys who keep going back to the same places over and over again even after they have been warned. AI would/could be circumvented.

The only way to logistically stop AP is to stop having +EV situations, or perhaps make it illegal across the board to play with an advantage.

C'mon, Axelwolf. If your phone can require a fingerprint or facial ID for activation, it's a short trip (as in around the block) to sitting down at a machine or table requiring the same.

You act like I don't know multiple IDs. LOL. I have actual multiple social security numbers with the feds. I bet that beats anything you have access to.

Go ahead -- check me out.

You "APs" -- all presumption of your own expertise while figuring everyone else is a yahoo.

Multiple actual socials still get shut down by consistent fingerprinting or retinal scans. Dead in the water. I'm sure Native American casinos in the middle of Oklahoma won't invest in the tech, so good luck at The Golden Pony (mickey knows whereof I speak).