kewlJ

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Otherwise you're inferring that you can make whatever unsubstantiated claims you like, but others cannot and should be subject to admin moderation. It's not that members of this forum decided they don't like you, but more that hypocrisy tends to rub people the wrong way. You want rules enforced as long as they don't apply to you.

I have nothing against you KJ. You even come off as a good dude much of the time, but Singer is right... you're creating your own hell here.

The one that really got me is that Doxxing is totally cool as long as it is not an AP you are Doxxing. LMAO!!!

It's like, "WHAT!?" Would KewlJ create a new tax for people, but exempt only those who are his exact height?

I'm just giving you shit, KewlJ, but that was a funny one.

Mission, have you visited and read Dan Druff Poker fraud forum at all? The top thread is a thread now some 750 pages long about youtube scammer Christopher Mitchel. Dan Druff and his membership, lead by Druff himself and his investigations have revealed all kind of things about this Christopher Mitchel person, including addresses, past employment, cars he drives among other things. This is all doxing! Any personal information you reveal about a person that they did not reveal is doxing.

Druff and his co-horts seem to think this is OK because Mitchel is on youtube soliciting money as part of his scam. Well I don't distinguish the soliciting part as much as others do. Scamming and misleading people with false bullshit that will have them lose their money is scamming...period. The solicitation just takes it to a higher level.

Mdawg is scamming people with mis-information that anyone trying what he claims will be hurt financially, and backed off and barred for attempting a 1-50 spread and I could list 100 things.

So if it is OK to dox Mitchel and reveal anything you find that contradicts his bullshit claims, and I believe it is, and Druff himself justifies that, I see no difference in doing so with Mdawg. The information that comes to light will prove he is not who he claims and not winning as he claims. It will prove the Mdawg adventure, nothing more than a scam, not all that different than Christopher mitchel, except Mitchel takes it a step further with the solicitaion of money.

Again, the pertinent question is why does someone like Mdawg not use his real name if he has nothing to hide. He isn't hiding from the casinos like most APs are. He plays rated, making sure they know who he is, to get every ounce of comps due him. So the only people he is hiding from are the members of these different forums who would find out who he really is and what his story really is.

Now there are a lot of people on this forum of late that no longer believe me or anything I say or any part of my claims. Or at least that is what they say, i don't really believe that. So they essentially think I am the same kind of scammer I am accusing Mdawg of being. Ok fine, If anybody can prove that, prove that I am Tom Reilly, living in Albuquerque, working as a night watchman and not who I claim, then they are free to do that. If they can prove that I am Sally Hutton, living in Vegas, but working at the dollar store and not who/what I claim, they should and are free to do that. If they can prove any of the ridiculous claims, male prostitution, to about 100 other things, that would prove my claims false and me a scammer, they should do that. That would be doxxing, but I think that would be fair game because I would have been misleading or scamming people.

But the fact is nobody can or has proven a damn thing like that. All they do is make up silly, silly shit, with no proof, just attempting to discredit or smear me.

In short, I believe doxxing a person misleading, or scamming, myself included is justifiable if it proves they are not who they claim in misleading people. Whether that be a Christopher Mitchel who takes it to the next level with the solicitation, or an Mdawg, who is such an expert manipulator with his picture and shit, or me, if I am not who I say and claim.

As has already been pointed out, CM is a person who scams people out of money by selling supposedly winning methods and systems. If you want to define the word, 'Scam' in such a way to include things that are non-monetary, decide that all scammers should be Doxxed, determine that MDawg is a scammer pursuant to what you think a scammer is, then subsequently Doxx (or attempt to Doxx him), then that is your prerogative. As you have already figured out, almost nobody agrees with your position on one, or multiple, aspects of that one. You stand all but alone on that, though I don't suppose you mind standing all but alone.

Beyond that, that's something that occurs over on PFA. That's one of the purposes of the site. It wouldn't matter whether CM participates on that site, or not, if he is doing what he does.

In the case of MDawg, you are trying to satisfy a personal vendetta brought about by his participation on the forums. You cannot tolerate that MDawg was tolerated by, and allowed to remain at, WoV. Had MDawg been Nuked from WoV, you would not have taken the action of attempting to Doxx him. I know this because you have not attempted to figure out who that MarcusClark and Doxx him. MarcusClark was demonstrated to have been lying. Where's his info at?

If you want to dress up a personal vendetta as some more noble grander cause in your own mind, then that's fine. If you want to try to sell that narrative to others, that's none of my business; however, I will not be bullshitted on this one.

Even ignoring all of that, I do not run PFA or dictate PFA"s policy. I haven't even said that I support PFA's policy of allowing Doxxing of certain people, but that's what PFA does and I participate on PFA.

Let me put it this way: If I knew Professor Slots' address (which I don't), I wouldn't even share it privately. I have a duty to warn that Professor Slots is selling bullshit slot systems. Actually, I don't even have specific animosity to The Nutty Professor; he was just a good example to use to warn people of that sort of thing, in general.

I certainly wouldn't target Professor Slots personally; he has done nothing to me.

MDawg has already prevailed in one such attempt to do just that. I am willing to arbitrate should terms be agreed to on a second attempt. I forget who I offered it to, but I actually offered to arbitrate on the first one. I consider myself pretty good at figuring out angles, and shit like that, so I think that I would have been more aggressive than Wizard was. That's not to say that I would have found anything because Dawg might substantially be telling the truth. In theory, he could be telling the entire truth. I did have one specific angle that I know wasn't pursued as it was not mentioned. Were MDawg lying, though I'm not saying he was, he'd have never seen my angle coming. He'd not have had a chance to prepare for it.

Once again, your double standard on the need to use one's real name, essentially, if one is not an AP, is patently ridiculous. Almost nobody uses their real names on these forums, which makes sense, because some of these fucking people populating these forums are bananas. If you want to start a forum in which all who participate, except verified and vetted AP's, must use their real names, then do that. I can't imagine anyone would participate there under those rules.

So, MDawg comes around telling stories about his casino adventures and must now make his real name known? Why? Justify that position. You can't; it's ridiculous.

I can't know what to believe or not believe from you anymore, but I am neither richer nor poorer due to my inability to take anything you say at face value. I don't dispute any of your claims, but nor would I defend you and say that your claims are most likely true. I can only say now that the Blackjack play aspect of your story has been very consistent for more than a decade.

Is literally anything else except your Blackjack play true? I'd have to say probably not. I also couldn't go to bat for your Blackjack play other than to say your story vis-a-vis stakes/style/approach has always been consistent.

On the other hand, other aspects of your story were once very consistent---and you have now said those are a lie, so who the hell knows?

Even if you were a 'Scammer,' which is still not a way I would ever use that word, how would one specifically disprove your tales? Also, why should anyone care?

Let's say that everything that you have ever said is a lie, just as a hypothetical. Everything. Every single word. How does that change my life? Why would it matter to me? You don't owe me honesty. How are you indebted to me? You're not.

Believe what you will. What you believe is none of my concern, and as long as your vendetta against MDawg persists, I don't expect to compel you to believe otherwise.

The one thing that would concern me is why you would think, if an MDawg is not to be protected from Doxxing, why people who would not protect MDawg WOULD protect AP's? Why do APs deserve protection if others don't? Their fucking livelihoods? We contribute nothing to society.

No. There's only one reason APs should be protected from Doxxing; it is because everyone should be protected from Doxxing. In the case of Druff, he would say everyone except those doing scamming and causing financial injury to other gamblers.