Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
The house edge on competing bets is at least 1% coach. Maybe a fraction smaller.
And that entire edge comes from a comeout roll of 12 ?

Is there any other outcome where one bet loses and the other does not win?

Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
In craps there is no mathematical way to beat the house.
What about under these conditions...?

Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
on big point multiplier days (and/or with a high enough players' card level) the vig can be overcome.
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
Even blackjack beats craps.
But there's no "dark side" to bet in Blackjack, so you can't hedge to guarantee a small house edge that can be overcome with bounce-back, etc.

Is that correct?