I had some fun today going over this thread, reading about Eliot's background, his history in the gaming industry, the work he has put out, and those that hold some animosity toward him. It looks like the animosity comes down to things Eliot did like seminars and books. They don't like that he put that kind of information out there.

Now, one of the things that KJ says is Eliot did what he did because he was a failed AP and did it to spite all successful AP's. First, was Eliot really a "failed AP?" Well, he learned AP but did that mean he intended to give up a pretty good career to become something like KJ? If you look at the respective careers of Eliot and KJ do you really think Eliot would want to trade his career in to become a KJ?

My uncle is a PHD. He was President of Chattahoochee Technical College for 22 years. So he retires to the Mississippi Coast and he and his wife like to visit casinos. He finds out I'm an AP and asks some questions. I was like "Uncle, just have fun with it and don't get to involved. As AP goes a man of your stature doesn't want to get that tarnish on his chrome finish."

There are to many examples of academics studying and publishing tactics on advantage play but not taking the vocation up themselves and moving on to something else.

This is my take on "spiteful." One of the favorite tactics of the spitefull is to call someone they don't like spitefull. It is obvious here that KJ is the one that is filled with spite.

Advantage play has worked out pretty good for guys like KJ and me. Look at our backgrounds. Neither one of us had anything on the ball before AP. But a guy like Eliot, dude is all degree'd up. A PHD for Christ sake. A guy like that has a hell of a lot more options than just AP. AP is actually a step down.