Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by Kumar View Post
I played $4 buffalo diamond at my local casino. I started at 11/39/53. It gave me green like about 6-8 times and then finally blue hits at 14/55/60. 3x 55 base games paid absit $350. I had invested $2800 in the play and cashed out with $1100. Huge loss.

So here's my question : should I have played 14/15/60 and hope when blue hits again (hopefully sooner this time ) and give a better payout ?
Although, 14/15/60 is not really a play 55 3X paid sub optimal. Is there some kinda frequency when the 3 sunset symbol occur during Free games - I’m curious ?
You were on an either/or play. Either the 3X or the 4X. It's a marginal play. About 99% plus about 5% meter movement. The average to catch either the 3X or the 4X is about 4 wheels so it looks like it took you about 2 cycles to hit it. With an average 61% drop along with some variance it can get expensive.

Then you got stiffed on the free spins. 55 free spins is worth about $1100 average. Of course, that's with the big hits like the buffalos on each end with the multipliers in the middle averaged in. There's a lot of variance here too. Those buffalo hits don't come around all that often.

So you took it in the shorts on this play. One of the problems with the $4 plays is they don't come around all that often. So if you take a tough beat it's a long time before you have a chance to get your money back.

The 14/15/60 in only about 87%. Forget it.
I'm really close to your 99% number on $4 11, 39, 53 sans all meter movement but I'm coming up with a much higher meter speed than 5%.
I'd think if you were playing that as an either / or you would get 87% of the 2x meter rise, 79% of the 3x meter rise, and 21% of the 4x meter rise on average... On the off chance the 4x hits first, it's pretty likely the 2x / 3x will still be a play...
I'm thinking you omitted the 2x meter rise maybe and are just counting the 3x meter rise?

Totally agree 14, 15, 60 is a dud.