Come on guys--like Vegas Lover before me do you not get that the comment re my high school math being a fraud was cynicism. It is my attempt, as most of my posts are, to show how stupid this argument has become. I never said that the math is wrong, and I never supported Singer's system other than to point out that no-one has "PROVEN" anything. If you can't recognize the difference between expected return and an individual's results day to day and session to session then I give up. Because thousands of people every day deviate from the norm and either win, or win big, or lose, or lose big. Most days, we are nowhere near the expected return.